Ashes of Al'ar

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Comment by Silah

The phoenix mount, dropping from Al'ar (most probably) in Tempest Keep: The Eye. Wonder who got this baby ;)

Comment by 26906

I don't believe it has actually dropped yet, but was given as a gift by Blizzard to a boy from the Make A Wish foundation.

Comment by 25321

one way or another it has been seen by someone with wowhead, otherwise we wouldnt be seeing it here. good to know there atleast is a raiding flying mount :P

Comment by 28195

Not exactly, if the item is in the game (owned by that boy or someone else) and gets linked a lot of people quickly get it in their linkloot (or w/e they use) thanks to linked battlegroups etc. Besides, it's confirmed this item hasn't dropped for anyone yet.

Comment by zomzom

/drool wouldnt sit bad getting this xD
but i dont think anyone has gotten it yet but hopefully someone will get it soon :)

Comment by FISKERQ

I don't know if they have removed this, but at some point you got the items of another person just by being in vision range of him, every item he had equipped and had in his bags was being put in your Itemcache files.

Which is one of the reasons why some items are on the sites but not ingame, some items have been in the bags of some GM's and upon a player seeing the GM the items would automatically be put in the itemcache.

Comment by dotted

This item was originally discovered by FISKERQ by running a script that "searched" for the item on the Armory. It was quickly posted on wowwiki, and now later wowhead.

The item on Armory: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=32458

The item on WoWWiki: http://www.wowwiki.com/Ashes_of_Al%27ar

It is correct that this haven't dropped for anyone, the only one to have it is Ezra, you can read his story here: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/30/the-phoenix-mount-is-indeed-in-game/

Comment by 45315

It doesnt say anything about "This mount can only be summoned in Outland."

Maybe it can be used i Azeroth :D

Comment by 57208

Wow, poor kid, seems like everyone is taking advantage of him, his dad Micah whoring him out like this so he can get a free phoenix mount when his kid kicks it, his guild 32nd Fleet doing some lame gathering in Shattrah to show the mount off, and Blizzard using this sick kid for a publicity stint. Hopefully he dies soon so he won't have to deal with this shit anymore.

Comment by 44624

Can a moderator please remove Mrnobody's comment?

Comment by azek

Were you abused as a kid? Either you are projecting or you are overly bitter in general. Did you read any of the articles about this? The kid got the spend a whole day at Blizzard and he (not his dad) had a blast there. Did the kid or the father spend a day designing quests, naming items and NPCs?

As if the father could have predicted they were going to do anything for his son's character, much less give him a mount no one truly cares about.

Please. This was a nice gesture and you turn it into a perversion... you should be ashamed to have even thought of that possibility.

Comment by 33195

This mount is a ground mount. NOT a flying mount.

Comment by SSdraken

Incorrect. Read the article, it's a 310% flying mount (the same speed as the Armoured Netherdrake) and can only be summoned in Outland.

Comment by 17424

Doubtful since it requires 300 riding skill. Also in the inside news they say it has 310% speed which only flying mounts can have.

And if you click on the green text you get to http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=40192 where you can see it increase the flight speed.

Comment by FISKERQ

No it's a flying mount, and it looks very akward on ground at the moment :P

Comment by AuReacT

replied this guy by accident .. delete please

Comment by AuReacT

Saw a video on youtube of 2 <GM>'s summoning Illidan ..
Yes "it was probably a private server, blablabla" good thing you figured that out - we don't care, it's not the point.
The video starts with one of the GM's summoning the phoenix and flying ..

In the video the mount appears to be a legendary item called "Peep the Phoenix" or something like that
.. and DAMN that shit is fast !!1

Comment by 57208

First of all, have you actually read anything about it, other than a cursory glance? His father is a power gamer, the kid's character wasn't even level 70. Yeah I'm sure this wasn't parentally motivated in anyway. And his middle name just happens to have "phoenix" in it... yeah ok screenshot of his birth certificate with Ephoenix as his middle name or it never happened.

Comment by FISKERQ

Regardless, this is a site discussing loot not the moral implications of an event.

Comment by flamer4021

Dropped from Kael'thas for Method-Sylvanas. World first drop on May 31, 2007!

Comment by 48169

Not true. Their website says nothing about this. It doesn't even say theve done any bc raids..

Comment by 28596

confirmed... one of their warriors got it. lucky
edit: also it drops off Kael’thas not al'ar as some people thought.

Comment by Tyrsenus

Drops from Kael'thas, not Al'ar. Increases flight speed by 310%.

Although it had a chance to drop since the Burning Crusade was implemented, the first Ashes of Al'ar was given to Ephoenix of US-Norgannon (Ezra Chatterton IRL) during a visit to Blizzard coordinated by the Make-A-Wish Foundation on or around May 22nd, 2007.

The first true drop was procured by Korlic of EU-Sylvanas on May 31st, 2007.

Comment by 12333

That doesn't have to be the maximum drop rate.

Comment by Camaris

There's no "This item can only be used in the Outland" line.. is this actually a ground mount?

Comment by Zeneva

Well i really envy this boy here...anyway sincerely grats to him lol..being given a so freakin rare phoenix mount by Blizzard itself..cool

Comment by Mirrormn

This mount requires riding skill 300, so it is almost assuredly a flying mount. It does not say, "This mount can only be summoned it Outland," but considering the poorly rendered filler terrain in Azeroth that Blizzard does not want people flying over all the time, it's probably an Outland-only mount anyway.

As for speed, it has been implied by Blue posters that this mount is supposed to equal the Armored Nether Drake, so it's probably 310%.

And the maximum drop rate could be anything except for 100%, although it is most likely to be the same drop rate as all the other rare-drop mounts in the game, like the raptor, tiger, baron's warhorse, fiery warhorse, or raven.

Comment by Evilgm

http://beta.worldofraids.com/

Yup, dropped for Method.

Comment by Evilgm

That does include kills that were before the introduction of the mount to the game, so the numbers will be off.

Comment by Fishrule

http://www.worldofraids.com/?page=viewitem&idd=81 did drop =]

Comment by 25419

Increases flight speed by 310%.

Comment by 9697

I'd hate to burst your bubble, but no one killed Kael'thas before 2.1, therefore, every legitimate Kael'thas kill had a chance to drop the mount.

Comment by 17963

Re-post, dropped for method...ect

Comment by Ovek

Drops from Kael'thas Sunstrider, final boss of The Eye.
Edit: Looks like some one beat me too it.

Comment by 25321

first drop for Method Sylvanas EU

Comment by Tyrsenus

Correct. We don't know when the mount was added to the game, therefore we assume that every kill potentially had the chance to drop it. Statistics are incredibly inaccurate for a small sample size, but most mounts have a ~1-2% drop rate. Therefore the 3.8% figure will most likely drop.

Comment by 57826

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/Weidolf/WoWScrnShot_060207_025242.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/Weidolf/WoWScrnShot_060207_025231.jpg

Comment by 52796

310% flight speed is correct !

Comment by 57970

Im not sure but i say that the armoured netherdrake (PvPmount, 310% increase) is easier to get than this... how many times are you going to kill the lord of the belfs?

Comment by 34046

Those that have, will be every week.

Comment by 9697

It has dropped, it dropped for the guild Method. So there are now 2 in existence.

Comment by 9697

As an addition to my earlier post, the Phoenix Mount has been in the game since the expansion was released, it was not added in 2.1. Blizzard Forum CMs have been hinting at it for months!

Comment by Raidin

It's also the only flying mount not to specifically mention that it can only be used in Outland. Makes you curious, doesn't it...

Comment by 17325

Raidin, the reason Blizzard didn't make flying mounts available in Azeroth is you can get to place you shouldn't be at(like IF Airstrip, but people got there anyways). Also, at place where you shouldn't be the stuff are poorly rendered.

Comment by 59001

best thing is u can use it in azeroth too, not only outland :D

Comment by NIKKO9393

wrong about that 31 may i saw this mount 1 month ago on youtube
ps it was not private server

Comment by dimaev

Can you ride this mount in Azeroth? It doesn't say that it's only usable in Outland.

Comment by 48869

Drops by ( http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19622 ) Drop % : 10

Comment by Kronos

Dropped for Forgotten Heroes (US PvP Black Dragonflight) June 11th, 2007 on their first Kael'thas kill.

Comment by stealthyboy

my friend said he saw one of his m8's on this mount(Emeriss EU horde), dont no if i believe him though cos this is a very rare drop i think

Comment by 41200

Can you ride this mount outside Outlands? xD
toolpit doesent say it cant be summoned as all other flying mounts.
but ofc it would work with azeroths bugs

Comment by 26795

Today, <Method> On Emeriss EU got the Al'ar mount on our 2'nd Kael'thas kill, world 2'nd I believe.

A bit more information, it is 310%, it has a kind of firey glow before it whilst flying, and also look pretty sick in shadowform, yes a shadow priest without the riding skill won the mount for a massive amount of 1007 DKP, he shortly after bought the riding skill.

Uploading a picture of him in shadowform with it.

Comment by 63320

This mount fropped yeaster day for a guild named <vortex> on kazzak on first or seccond run there

Comment by 17339

Mount just dropped for <Praemium Callidus> on Magtheridon.
Our 2nd Kael'thas kill.
I went to Zin our shaddowdaddy movie maker.

Comment by tanoh

You really don't know much about probability do you?

The max drop rate can (potentially, although highly unlikely) be 99.9999% and those killing it so far have just been very very very unlucky.

Comment by Volboris

Are you sure its 310%? This says its a "very fast mount" while the Arena Netherdrake has the text "extremely fast".

Comment by Toldry

azeroth flying mount?

unlike all the other flying mounts this mount does not say "This mount can only be used in Outland".

so does that men i can fly in azeroth with this thing?

i know this has been posted befor but i want to make a post that talks only about this fact.

Comment by 59001

according to wc3 tft u should die in few minutes after using this :P

Comment by 69898

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=32458

Comment by 69906

I'm only wondering what is the % increase when riding the mount

Comment by 70402

Dropped on Cenarius for Eowyn of Heist on July 15.

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=508783

Comment by 67975

nvm my comment

Comment by joshb306

This mount was dropped for the guild TG on Arthas, Darkchani won the mount.

Comment by 72070

It's increciple...Absolutely increciple!

Comment by Angelar

Dropped 8/2/07 on Shattered Hand server

Comment by 76021

Droped for eXistenZ on Executus on 1st of August 2007.

http://www.clanbase.ro/media/ftk/First-Ashes_of_AlAr.jpg

Comment by 75076

Kael'Thas dropped by 6th kill.

Comment by 54709

Saw someone cruisin around in this on Sargeras.

Comment by 6869

Dyanatos a dwarf warrior has 1 on shadowsong eu and a troll in wrath also on shadowsong eu has 1

Comment by 76875

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Comment by 76875

Drops from Ragged Timber Wolf 36%.

Comment by 77612

Read about this mount of the web the first ever phoenix mount was given away to Ezra Chatterton, the young man who recently went to Blizzard's offices with the Make-A-Wish foundation. Ezra was given the first ever Phoenix mount in game for two reasons. First, it was probably the best gift that Blizzard could really give any gamer as far as one of the new Outland mounts. Netherdrakes are awesome, but a phoenix trumps that, if you ask me! And hey, who wouldn't want a mount that could move at 310% speed like the Swift Nether Drake arena award mount. Secondly, as Ezra's father Micah explained to me, the phoenix is an extremely important personal symbol for Ezra.

Comment by 77615

The only proof that this phoenix exists is that Ephoenix is the rightful owner. The other screen shots are pretty much seen as private servers due to the characters not existing in the wow armory...but it is for good show of the phoenix it self. As for the drop it will be hard to prove due to ppl dropping the UI and not showing their lvl along with very little amount of ppl surrounding your toon that u do not know...so u must prove what server your on and witnesses

Comment by 77809

Blizzard's armory lists this having 1-2% droprate. At 2%, any guild will get 1 Phoenix per year on AVERAGE if they clear The Eye every week. When it drops, you have to be the ONE lucky person from the 25-man raid to actually get it (or have the most dkp). In the end it all comes down to luck. Some guilds will get several and some will never get one.

Phoenix' speed is 410% running speed (310% flying speed). With Crusader aura you will go at 492% running speed.

Phoenix doesn't have visible legs and it will always be flying. In "rest" state on ground it will still flap it's wings. When "running" on the ground you will go at regular epic mount speed. Otherwise phoenix performs like any other flying mount and same rules apply.

Phoenix leaves several trails from it's wings and tail. When you go at 492% speed you leave quite a long trail behind you. You can make some pretty looking trail figures with some fancy flying.

Phoenix mount is the Ferrari of WoW mounts and a guaranteed attention magnet. It's funny seeing people going past you in a hurry, do a full stop, perform a quick 180 degree turn and come look at you.

Edit: Removed some outdated info.

Comment by 78876

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFWLsESy-Yk

Here's me and my phoenix.

Comment by 78876

You can't fly underwater in private servers. I did it on purpose so people would know it's obviously not a live server. And you don't lose breath on private servers either.

Comment by 77809

Male troll riding Phoenix.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/sutrik/phoenix/phoenix-troll.jpg

Female gnome riding Phoenix (me with transporter malfunction).
http://koti.mbnet.fi/sutrik/phoenix/phoenix-gnome1.jpg

Additional information and more screenshots:
http://sutrik.googlepages.com/ashesofal'ar

Comment by Kalken

The tooltip seems off. On the other 310% mount it is referred to as an "extremely fast" mount while this one is only "very fast."

Comment by 64827

the ashes of al'ar drop off of Kael'thas Sunstrider not al'ar
this is not the only thing that has 310% speed,Swift Nether Drake ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30609 ) is also 310% speed, but you have to win the arena season to get it so i say the ashes of al'ar are easyer to get

Comment by 25275

mates look at this http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/761/wowscrnshot060807185551fr7.jpg ... it is be4 black temple opened...this guy is from sylvanas...the warr is my cow with way older gear :D

Comment by 52726

Speed % modifiers are additive. Your speed while on this mount would be 310% of your normal running speed. With a riding crop that would be 320% of your normal running speed. Assuming the riding crop and crusader aura stack you would achieve 340% of your normal running speed with both.

With a normal epic flying mount you would need crusader aura and a riding crop to match the base speed of this mount. 280% (normal epic flyer) + 10% (riding crop) + 20% (crusader aura) = 310% (phoenix speed).

Comment by 82527

I have a question. On his label, it doesn't mention that "This mount can only be summoned in Outland"... Isn't that strange? I mean, is there any chance it can fly in Azeroth too? Well
if it is, this might be one of the bigest mistakes of Blizzard.

Comment by Phlegethon

Due to the radical amount of terrain fixes they would have to make, Blizz decided a long time ago that flying mounts would never be used in Azeroth. I don't understand how this strikes you as odd, since every other flying mount has the same restriction.

Comment by 6009

Tucci, thanks; I've corrected my post.

Though, I think you meant to say "Still slightly slower than a paladin with Crusader Aura + regular swift mount, though."

Comment by 83740

I'm pretty sure he meant that it's odd that this mount doesn't have that tag of "This mount can only be used in Outland" which all other flying mounts have.

Comment by 76394

In the legend when a Phoenix dies it will burn to ashes and then reborn from them.

Well this is the "Ashes of Al´ar" so that must mean that you are flying on Al´ar himself!

Comment by 87642

with Crusader Aura which paladins have,this mount increase +376% SPEED!

Comment by Corbon

Dropped on our second kill, Pala Daycrailor got it (Mal'Ganis, EU). Server first. With Crusader Aura, the effective speed is (310+100) x 1,2 = 492. Regular runspeed is 100.

The mount is surprisingly small and the trail it leaves behind doesn't fit it at all imo. Like a small amount of colourful paper strips, combined with confetti.

Comment by 51708

After you get off this mount... you and everyone around you that is the same faction (horde or alliance) have to do the Al'ar encounter and kill it to get your ashes back. No rly, I saw it in the middle of Shat. Don't listen to anyone else... if you get off your mount you will prolly die unless you have a raid with you.

Lawl

Comment by 76372

ok thats just retarded

Comment by mildpanda

normal are 280% i think...

Comment by 93467

dropped for us yesterday, alot of people have it now.

Comment by 16027

Dropped for Archaeus on Jubei'Thos US tonight, congrats go to Radiate :D

Comment by 53280

I feel as if at the TK phase of the game, most people SHOULD know that their mount cannot be used on Azeroth ;)

Comment by Ebrahim

it's cool ,, but it's hard to get + why do i need 30% speed more the epic one for? , realy you are not ganna make races , so however, got it or not USELESS :S ....

"In the legend when a Phoenix dies it will burn to ashes and then reborn from them."

about that , this remind me by Harry Potter (2) O_o

Comment by sintet

+1 droped
Server Warsong EU guild VII legion Psyhards

Comment by 107711

Im curious to see what this looks like on the ground when you have the disgusting oozeling pet out. It leaves a green aura on your player sorta and turns your mount green. On my dreadstead it makes the flames look somewhat green.

Comment by 108064

It drops every time on gorefiend.

Comment by Thodas

Dropped for Royal Militia of Bleeding Hollow (US-PVP) for Xiana on December 17th at 1:10 AM.

Comment by Falu

Dropped for Crowd Control on US-PVP server Blackwing Lair December 20th.

Comment by Stormwaker

Imagine how bad-ass it look with Shadowform :)

Comment by 103271

On December 26th, 2007 (Beijing Time), the legendary phoenix mount Ashes of Al'ar appaeared for the first time on the Molten Core server in China; this phoenix mount has been acquired for 190,000 gold by a player.

(what i dont understand about this is how he bought a raid boss drop?)

Comment by Werndog

With the whole purchasing thing...the only way I can concieve of it is that it dropped and he paid all the members in the raid so he could be the sole roller.

Comment by loragheta

so no one is suprised that he had 190000 gold to buy it?

Comment by 103271

190k is quite abit but i can see it being done, i've pushed around 100-110k on one of the servers that i've been playing since release-this day.

chances are though, him being chinese and all, he bought it, right?(thats what you were getting at werent you?

Comment by dragancla

well..he is chinese, and we all know ni hao chinese are gold farmers
and btw i played on private realms before the original (you know...preparing for the real deal) and max money you can have is ~ 420.000 gold so 190k is like nothing for them

Comment by 66265

You are saying nonsense, first you claim "Phoenix' speed is 410% running speed " and then "When "running" on the ground you will go at regular epic mount speed. "

Well that's 100% not 410%

Comment by 66265

It's not a "radical amount", its closer to 5-8% percent. Much of the world looks ok, its the zone transitions which are sloppy - and of course all the capitals which require work - hopefully they well get at it one day.

Comment by 112078

he was in guild raid and they were bidding with money for it ;).. chinese farmers heh

Comment by stylewalker

From WorldOfRaids.com:
On December 26th, 2007 (Beijing Time), the legendary phoenix mount Ashes of Al'ar appaeared for the first time on the Molten Core server in China; this phoenix mount has been acquired for 190,000 gold by a rich player.

Comment by Stuke

Thottbot is that way ------>>>>

Comment by Arkham

I could've sworn it was this way
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Comment by ChildinTime

No, what he was saying is that the chinese(actually all orientals) are very ambitious, and its a known steriotype to label them 'chinese farmers'(wither they're chinese or not). In my experience(not only wow) people of the orient tend to be less casual gamers, and more goal oriented. None of which is a bad thing. Imo they're also less lazy and more prideful in their accomplishments then casual gamers or gamers as a whole, which tends to discourage the assumption that they buy gold.
Also, being much more ambitious, they tend to be perfect canidates for working for actual gold farming "companies", which verywell could be part of the (or in some peoples oppinions, the main) reason for the steriotype.
Appologies to anyone that I may have offended, that wasn't my intent at all, infact it was the opposite.

Comment by 1617

One thing to remember is that the Chinese version of BC came out much much later (can't recall date), so this player could've easily accumulated ludicrous amounts of gold pre-expansion via questing, instancing, raiding, AH trading and so on.

Comment by 66643

This mount has auctaly dropped on the normal servers. Someone from the guild 'Art of War' on the Gorefiend server auctaly has this mount. I can't remember the name of the person but I see him flying around Shattrath all the time with it. im surprised he hasnt posted a comment about it yet.

Comment by 114024

Im curious to know... can blood elf players kill him and have the same mount or is there a reputation thing involved?

Comment by 11259

Our guild just got one tonight, given to our fantastic raid leader Clarity. Grats to her! You should have seen the amount of lag it caused in Shat when she arrived!

Comment by 72738

I beleive that Blizzard doesn't allow Flying Mounts in Azeroth because of many reasons, and this is one of them.
Darnassus, Origmar, Stormwind, Thunderbluff, (Not sure about Silvermoon, unless it's open from the top), are all without a cover from the sky unlike most of Exodar and Undercity and IronForge.
Imagine how heaps of players from the opposing faction will just fall out of the sky avoiding mny gaurds and attack the cities with no effort at all, this will mean that cities won't be safe areas anymore.
But without them, you can be in PvP mode and not be attacked, you will feel secure in your cities (Unless some bored rogue ambushes you).

Comment by 121122

This is one thing for sure.... There will be flying mounts in azeroth.
there is a hidden valley of troll tribe above the cliffs of the mountain between darkshore and moonglade! near 66.4,24.0 and there is no way to get there but to use a flying mount because it is surrounded by mountains. even at the under city, there is a upper level of the inner ring.

Comment by 2OfDiamonds

you have to be exalted with argent dawn to be able to get the drop.

wait.. what?

Comment by flamero

Crusader Aura doesn't stack with mount speed trinkets.

Comment by 118675

Any shadowpriest have this mount?

Comment by 102481

i have seen other players with this mount before on Stormreaver, not hobbs though..... it is a 310% confirmed, but dosnt work on the ground.... oddly enough its normal(walking speed)......
its kinda odd though ive only seen 2 people with it, and after asking them about it, they said it droped nowhere near the instance. one said he even got one off a orc in the hellfire penusla!!!! my guess: the mount is one of those special drops, rarely appearing, or just put in for laughs by G gms

Comment by 126735

This item first dropped on the EU server Defias Brotherhood this week despite numerous guilds farming Kael'thas. It went to Jarvin a Shaman Healer.

Comment by 18785

He told you this because hes sick of being asked about it.

Comment by 92984

Dropped for Ceriulun - Illusion (Alliance) first on EU-Outland the other day, server first I believe.

Comment by jaschmidt22

I just saw a gnome on the PTR with this mount. It's out there.

Comment by 128268

Dropped Today Alliance side on Malfurion

Comment by 129845

Dropped 18/02 -08 on Emeriss Alliance to a paladin which means Emeriss got one mount on horde, and one mount on alliance.

Comment by 130518

Shenanigans guild on Arygos (US PvE) has two!

Just ask Clarity or Wispa :)

Comment by Benegesserit

Why is Blizzard rewarding skill for PvP but only giving raiders/PvEers a RNG for the same speed mount?

Comment by 63441

They are adding the tag "This mount can only be summoned in Outland" in Patch 2.4 just to clear the confusion.

Comment by 74708

This mount dropped on Auchindoun eu realm. havent seen personaly but alot of other people did and made screenie's. the dude made a show off in shat >.<

EDIT: now i did. submitting some screenies now. His name is Cowtzer

Comment by 134280

На нашем серве х1 выбили феникса.

Comment by 35683

Can confirm that, because I do the same myself after I get the same question asked 108 times.

Comment by 35683

Can confirm that, because I do the same myself after I get the same question asked 108 times.

Comment by geoffster

As of 2.4 it DOES say "This mount can only be summoned in Outland"

Comment by 67814

This itemdescription says:
Use: Summons and dismisses a rideable phoenix. This is a very fast mount. This mount can only be summoned in Outland.
It has also been mentioned by a blue post that this will have a 310% mounted speed.
But the swift netherdrake mount, the other 310% mount has this descrption:
Use: Summons and dismisses a rideable nether drake mount. This is an extremely fast mount. This mount can only be summoned in Outland.
The swift netherdrake mount is also the only mount with this description. all other epic (flying) mounts have the same description as the phoenix of being a very fast mount.

ps. Sorry if you don't understand my english. I'm Chinese and moved to europe so English is my 3rd language.

Comment by supertao

The tag is STILL incorrect. Since this mount goes 310% speed, it should be labeled as an EXTREMLY fast mount, like the Gladiator's Netherdrake and the Merciless Drake, and not a VERY fast mount.

EDIT: It seems Ryu beat me too it

Comment by 120774

Did Blizz really give this mount to a sick kid in partnership with MAW founation? That was really thoughtful of them!

Comment by 129976

Mount speed is 310%.

and btw for all you shadow priests just pop shadowform and get on this mount and you will have your own demonic bird from hell!!!

Comment by 147324

siiiiiick..too bad ill never get that mount lol

Comment by 120774

This mount would look pretty cool with fire coming out of its eyes.

Comment by username

That's so unfair to the rest of us who actually work to obtain our gear that the first mount was just given away. The kid is recovering anyway, he might not even die. If he makes a full recovery, I expect him to have his stuff taken away and work for it like everyone else.

Comment by 155165

I think you are way more sick then he is to say that. What should blizz say to him? "We were expecting you do die so... ".

Comment by 108634

Would it be appropriate to call you a douche user? Never mind of course it would, and I hope you get cancer.
I mean really, that's like giving your mom a get well soon card and after she gets better you come to her house and rip it up in front of her.

Comment by 150538

"Oh hey! you're the kid who's dying right? how bout some pixels?"

Comment by Bl4ckSh33p

and how can you get "Trail length at 451% speed"? You can only add 10% with riding crop or the item from the netherdrake isle and it does not stack, paladins get 20%. o.O

Comment by b0uncer

Are you sure this is the way it works? Aren't you just supposed to add % to the total value of the speed? What I mean is this:
Merciless Nether Drake gives you 310% flying speed. Then when you add Riding Crop and Skybreaker Whip you get +20% which makes 330%. And with Crusader Aura it gets 350%. At least that's the way I think things with speed work. I am not quite sure why you added the 100% movement speed which you actually lose when you use a mount.

Comment by Tiran

Percentages are generally multiplicative. The crop, whip and aura don't stack - you can get up to 10% improvement from items, more from talents or auras, but those talents and auras then cancel out the effect of the items.

Further you have to add the 100% base speed because it says right on the tooltip increases speed by 310%. Take a non epic 60% mount. It wouldn't make sense for it to move slower than an unmounted person.

Aether is correct in his assessment of the math, and further there have been people who've verified the math in game using timing and distance mods.

Comment by 127395

Crusader Aura, which is the mount speed increase does not stack with anything else therefore, you cannot reach anything past 330% if u have the aura up, however there are 2 trinkets which increase mount speed by 10% and which would get you up to 330% AND riding skill enchant to gloves and mithril spurs which would bring your mount speed up to a grand total of 336% flying speed increase. Here are all of the items:
Enchanting Gloves- Riding Skill
Mithril Spurs
Riding Crop
Sky Breaker Whip

(Sorry, my computer is acting funny and it won't let me link)

Comment by housetrain

"This mount can only be summoned by a sick boy from MAWF"

Increases cheese by 310%.

Comment by 170756

This is one of the rarest mounts to see in the game minus the AQ bugs. Who wouldn't want to ride a flaming bird right?

Comment by 169332

im on my first TK trip tonight (my guild has done more already)
didnt down keal so far but if they do and it drops im screwd.
first 3 raids i am not alowed to roll on loot other peeps need -.-

Comment by 162861

Increases flight speed by 310%.

Comment by 173224

This is, hands-down, the coolest mount in the game.

Comment by hypehuman

Just to make it completely clear:

100 (normal speed) + 310 (increase from the mount) = 410 speed while mounted

410 + 10% (increase from riding crop) = 451

410 + 20% (increase from crusader aura) = 492

Comment by 111133_

crusader aura and pursuit of justice does not stack with riding crop

Comment by 111133_

410% + 10% = 420%
410% + 20% = 430%

Comment by lsfreak

Rather,
100% + 310% = 410%
410% * 10% (4.1*1.1) = 451%
410% * 20% (4.1*1.2) = 492%
He had it right, it's just a bit confusing.

EDIT: Responding to a now-deleted comment about 410% + 10% = 420% and so on.

Comment by 20652

Easier still:

10% of 410% = 41%, thus 451%
20% of 410% = 82%, thus 492%

Comment by 179521

It has dropted on Dragonblight

Comment by 133035

And as the phoenix reborns from the ashes, it rages into flames and bursts high into the sky. Above all, watching peacefully.

Confirmed - First World drop on May 31st, 2007 to the very lucky Korlic of EU-Sylvanas!

Comment by Jachammer

Crusader aura and trinket's that increase speed don't stack. It says so on both the aura and on the trinkets.

Comment by 121506

This mount should read "This is an extremely fast mount", as the other 310% speed mounts do.

Edit: Why was I downrated? It's true.

Comment by 170426

If they are discontinuing the Amani War Bear, does it mean that this one will be discontinued too?

Comment by 181837

Seen on Al'Akir
Owner: Horde - Dræberteddy

This beast... well, it's not a roguemount, since it leaves a pink trail where it has been, pretty nice

Comment by 168039

If they are discontinuing the Amani War Bear, does it mean that this one will be discontinued too?

No, they are not. It is going to be an accomplishment for Woltk, basically were going to have to 5 man tempest keep, hopefully its going to be nerfed a little :P

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=885

Comment by DkDabura

i got this mount and it OWNZ i love when you fly with it you see the fire behind you the speed is 310% and if you have the mount you own...like me ;)

Comment by 204343

Of course i think it is nice for the kid he got this phoenix,
but still there are many other sick players.
Like me 2 years ago i had a hearth sickness ( i was 10) and still played world of warcraft,
too bad i did not get someting like this.
The kid is lucky,

Realmage

Comment by 126019

Just seen someone flying this on Vek'Nilash EU, will update if I find out his name again :P Not sure how common they are these days but they still look damn fine ;)

Comment by 121506

I have no idea why my comment was downrated; this mount should in fact read "This is an extremely fast mount" rather than "This is a very fast mount", as all other 310% speed mounts use the former wording as compared to 280% mounts which use the latter wording.

Comment by 121506

This mount should read "This is an extremely fast mount", as all other 310% speed mounts have that term listed rather than "This is a very fast mount."

Comment by tubago

Might be an useless comment but i'd just like to add i saw this mount on the other day on a Tauren (EU Spinebreaker server) and couldn't resist to w the player to congrat him. I fell kinda ashamed to be riding a swift red windrider *goes do netherwing daylies <_<*

Comment by Hean

Just keep working on your mounts and you'll slowly get there, no need to be ashamed, we've all been there :)

Comment by 216253

Currently not displaying properly on latest PTR

Screenshot comparison - http://s4.tinypic.com/2db6rsj.jpg

Comment by Harson

No, they are not. It is going to be an accomplishment for Woltk, basically were going to have to 5 man tempest keep, hopefully its going to be nerfed a little :P

Blizz has already stated that they are nerfing all raid mobs and bosses when patch 3.0 goes live(30% less health and less damage done overall), and with Wotlk raid gear we should be able to 5 man Kael'thas easily. Or maybe 10 man depending on how hard it will actually turn out to be at 80 ^^

Comment by 224239

Highly doubt 5 man. Kael'thas requires Hunter, Lock tank, at least TWO heals with 3000+ healing, two tanks, and lots of range dps. Nope, not five man, 15 man.

Comment by 32ndShadowwind

As of October 20th, 2008, Ezra Chatterton, Ephoenix, is no longer with us. I don't know at this time whether there are plans for an ingame memorial service, but will post updates on the Norgannon realm forums when and if. If you want to make a donation to his family or send them a message, their website is We will miss you, Ezra.

And from the ashes it was reborn...(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##

Comment by AuReacT

omgiwantit

Comment by Soulkeeper

Wouldn't this be much better if it had legs.?.?.?. I mean it's a phoenix so when ur not flying it's ashes(dead in a way) but how does it walk?

Comment by valioso

The phoenix summoned by Ashes of Al'ar has had his flame trails restored.
As The New patch notes in 3.0.3 on November 4th, 2008 Show, We can now get this mount again, Even though it is only a 1.6% drop rate, I believe we have gone after mounts with a lower % drop rate! I Hope to see a lot more of these in the game very soon! :D Yay Thanks blizzard!

Comment by 201075

Man it would be so sweet to get one of these. Definitely one of my favorite mounts available.

Comment by 170072

oh this is a shame... for now this will be one of 6 mounts to rarely be seen again with the release of WotLK

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33809
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30480
and last but not least. my favorite my favorite actually.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13335

its a shame how the second a new xpac comes out no one bothers with anything before its time.

*edit. and how could we forget http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19902 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19872 ?

Comment by Hean

I'm gonna try to get a group on EU bloodscalp to run this with me :P I'll do a huge favor for them so they won't roll, anyone who got an idea of how many level 80's in what sorta gear could do TK - Trying to get as few people as i can since the favor's are rather...half-big (Like grinding for Thunder-Fury)
The Phoenix shall be mine soon enough!

Also, good luck to everyone else who is trying to get the Ashes of Al'ar - Drops from last boss in TK ;3

- Edit: Also this STILL drops, i can't confirm, but i know that Blizzard has not posted anything or have left any patch notes about taking it away from the game.

Only Amani War bear, some titles and some other random not-so-important-as-far-as-i-know.

Comment by Darkrainin

companion to phoenix hatchling

Comment by 254605

At my server (Magtheridon EU)-(Horde) i see this mount on 4 people plus 2(Allince side) 1st. Nyko(paladin)-(Madness)
2d. Shaurentaman (Shaman)-(Metal Gods)

And 2 guys From Nihilum(now Nihilum rename (''Ensidia'')
After Wotlk the mount removed from game:(

Comment by 68441

What is the source on this? As I heard it guaranteed drops such as the bear mount were the only ones being removed. If the Ashes were unobtainable, the Deathcharger or the Reins of the Raven Lord would have been removed with the same thinking.

Comment by violetta

the ashes have not been removed, they are still obtainable

Comment by Archoprez

Look at this video:
Kungen's Birthday
Nihilum, Magtheridon celebrating guildmaster Kungen's birthday :P

Comment by 132335

Hmm, Thats Really Sad, Blizzard are very thoughtful to do that. :)

Comment by 297335

Did he drop anything good?

Comment by 302113

Ive got actually an addon that shows your actual speed on map and ive got with crus aura +356% speed with regular epic mount, but im not sure if its 456% movement or if its just replaced so i move
3.56 times faster than normal...

Comment by 301825

why my photo is not added?

Comment by kitschsous

As someone who only killed Kael a few times before the 3.0 nerf while BC was out, and then farmed him until Wrath launched, I was also under the impression that he would be 5-man-able when I took a solo trip into TK to remind myself of his and his adds HP pool.

For reference after 3.0 Kael himself has 2.1M and each of his adds have 180,000ish HP, the Mage has a bit less, 130,000 if I remember correctly.

Since then my guild (everyone in a mix of 10/25 man WotlK raid content gear) has killed him 3 times for fun/chance at this mount.

The main problem I see with this fight and people trying to do him with as few people as possible is the fact that he still mind controls, 2 people at a time, and I have yet to see it resist so I’m assuming even at 80 its unresistable. This wouldn’t be a problem if they were 70, but they are 80... and when ever this happens our Kael tank slips below 50% health while the healers are either trying to keep the rest of the raid up as our members with daggers try to dispel quickly or they themselves get MCed. Even with the dagger our fury warrior almost always tends to kill someone when he is MCed before he can be CCed/dispelled.

Our most successful attempt was with the following comp:
2 BM Hunters (1 With Dagger)
1 Warlock (Staff)
1 Mage (Staff)
2 Healing Priests - one DSC one Holy (Maces)
1 Feral Druid (Switching Staff/Dagger)
1 Prot Pally (Shield)
1 Fury Warrior (Dagger)
1 Ehn Shaman (Not sure what weapon he was using, if he was using one.)

Also keep in mind, you have to have a certain level of dagger skill for the dispel to work (350 I was told), so you cant just put daggers in the hands of everyone.

So 10 people. Even with this set up the MT almost always took the Pyro due to the fact so many people were either on MC dispels or phoenixes (Fortunately with the HP pool at 80 this isn’t a big problem) and 3 people died before the fight was over.

You also have to remember, if you get MCed, for example, lets say you only have one person in the raid with the staff. If they get MCed, your raid loses the staff buff, Kael disorients you WHILE people are still MCed and not only are you being killed by the people who are MCed but your tank lost aggro and he’s about to launch a 40k pyro at someone who isn’t a tank.

Another amusing thing that went wrong... One of our priests got MCed and 2 shot the other priest before someone with the dagger got over to them or they were CCed.

So... long story short at the moment its near to if not impossible to 5 man this boss. I would say a very well coordinated group could do him with less than 10, but 5 is a bit of a stretch.

Comment by 306010

It's still there. I just got it about an hour ago! :)

Comment by 307019

We were able to 8 man Kael this weekend to try and farm the mount. We first started with 6 but just didn't have enough DPS and phase 3 fell apart. Has anyone done this with less? We used a DK to tank Kael since he could use a CD every minute. Once you got to Phase 4 it was cake, 3 was the only hard part.

Comment by 240138

Just did this boss successfully last night with 9 players at level 80, took us a few attempts and we had to change dps orders a bit since the raid was smaller than the encounter was originally designed for. This is how we did it, and a slightly different strat for level 80's in a smaller raid.

Raid comp:

2 tanks (preferably 1 prot warr at least)
2 full time heals
1 offheals (moonkin / ele shammy)
4 ranged dps

Our gear level was approx. full T7 / mostly T7.5. Able to down 3 drake Sartharion with all the dpsers. You may need to bring additional dpsers if yours aren't that geared, however when new content patches come out, this won't be as much of a concern.
We wiped a few times trying to 8 man the fight without an elemental shaman, but we brought him in and the random spot chain heals and the heroism/bloodlust helped a ton in phase 4. Having 2 healers is preferred because one healer might have to move, accidentally die, or some other unforseen event. The actual damage going around the raid is trivial, and we had 1 healer healing phase 4 for some time before a mind controlled player feared him.

I recommend using a prot warr for phase 4 because they are extremely mobile for phase 4, and can easily dispel MC's without accidentally killing someone. Most players can easily take several devastates without it being a serious issue. Any tank can now MT Kael now though, the pyroblast was a joke and no cooldowns were needed to survive being hit.

Phase 1: Introduction
Not much to this phase, none of the mobs hit particularly hard and they all dropped extremely quickly. For Thaldred, the melee were able to walk up to him and start dpsing without any care if he turned around and started attacking them.
Actually positioning the mobs so they are in good places for phase 3 was also not much of a concern for us. We did attempt to have Capernian positioned on the right side of the room, and everything else on the left side, but with the speed of the dps it was not entirely successful.
Phase 2: Legendary Weapons
We had enough dps to completely destroy the weapons with about 10 seconds to spare before phase 3 started. I would recommend keeping the prot warr on the Cosmic Infuser, as it does heal itself frequently. Shield Bashes, Concussion Blows, Shockwaves are all needed to stop it from healing while all the weapons are being aoe'd down. Also, having him pick up the Staff of Disintegration early on, silence it, and drag it into the aoe helps a lot. The staff likes to stay in it's current spot and just cast at people unless someone does somethin about it.

We had a paladin tank to pick up all the other weapons (cept the bow, which was still done by a hunter). We even left the Devastation in there with the rest of the weapon as nothing there really hit for much.

DO NOT FORGET TO EQUIP THE WEAPONS. We did have some fresh people on the run who didn't understand that the weapons became lootable when they died, and required being looted and equipped. Not having enough casters with the staff in the raid will make or break the fight still. Phase 3 is serious still.

If you have a good number of single target dps in the raid, this is the dps order for the weapons I would recommend:
Staff of Disintegration -> Cosmic Infuser -> Infinity Blade -> Phaseshift Bulwark -> Warp Slicer.
For us, the bow died somewhere in the mix with the hunter nuking it down and the aoe hitting it. We never really had to worry about having to dps it at all.
Phase 3: Advisors
If you do not have most to all of the weapons down at this point, then it will likely be a wipe and you need more dps.

We were forced to change the dps order of the Advisors because of the annoyance of their abilities to a 9 man raid. Capernian was a serious threat to the raid because she would chain-conflag someone (often a tank, occasionally a heals or unlucky dps). There isn't always a staff that is going to be near in a raid that small so we nuked her first, while keeping an eye on thaldred and kiting him around as needed. If he did aggro to someone important, a bop works wonders for keeping them alive.

Killing Capernian is going the be the tough part of phase 3, her abilities severely restrict movement and make the whole phase rather annoying to deal with till she is dead. We didn't have to burn our heroism to down her, but if your raid is having trouble that is a good option.
Next up is Thaldred, just as much of a joke in phase 3 as phase 1, it took us a little bit longer to down him though.
Either Sanguinar or Telonicus will work next, neither is a very serious concern. We even had an add still up beating on the MT going into phase 4.
Phase 4: Taking matters into one's own hands
This was a bit chaotic for us the first few tries, but we eventually got the hang of it. At least 2 people should have a set of the daggers to dispel the Mind Control with. The prot warrior was the primary person to dispel the MC's for us, because of the mobility the Warbringer talent gives, and 30 yard taunts bring players over rather easily. A backup is needed in case the warrior does get MC'd himself though.
Fear should be avoided on MC'd people unless the person dispelling them got it also. It is very hard to chase down a player and attack them if they are running around randomly.

For the Phoenix adds, we had the prot warrior also tank those at the same time as dispelling Mind Controls. The Phoenixes are still level 70, and their aoe is of little concern as it nearly always misses. DPS should still nuke it down and then the egg it leaves behind though, eventually they will become a dangerous nuisance if you let them multiply and wander around randomly.

Do not forget to move out of the Flame Strikes! Those hurt a lot a 70, and they will hurt a lot at 80.

You can have any tank on the boss really, Pyroblast hits for 20-25k, which is less than our tanks had unbuffed. It is still nice to interrupt it as you get the chance, and use the shield to absorb the first one.

Heroism / Bloodlust should be saved for 80% here, give a good amount of time to make sure all the advisors or down, everyone is in a good spot and is comfortable.
Phase 5: True Power (lol)
The fight is won at this point, this phase is a joke at 80, especially with a 9 man raid. When he does Gravity Lapse, everyone should spread out a little bit as to not be right next to each other. Also don't go too high up in the air as when the debuff runs out, you will fall to the ground and take fall damage. The actual raid damage is next to nothing in the air, so nobody should be dying at this point.
Phoenixes will continue to spawn in this phase, and should still be killed until boss reaches 15% (ish). After that is is safe to straight up nuke Kael and go for the loots, only worrying about the adds afterwards.

1 minor thing to note about Heroism / Bloodlust, it is a risk using it in phase 4 as he can mind control your shaman and buff himself with it. He wont be much more of a threat, but you lose out on your heroism. If you are worried about this happening then burn it in phase 3 right at the start.

Good luck and happy hunting for the Ashes!

Comment by dylan257

Quoted from Ruoste

Phoenix' speed is 410% running speed (310% flying speed). With 10% speed trinket you will go at 451% running speed and paladin's Crusader aura gives you 492% running speed. I also verified these with a mod that shows your speed.
Equivalent regular epic flying mount speeds are 380%, 418% (trinket), 456% (Crusader). So a Paladin on regular Epic with Crusader on will just outfly you if you have only the 10% speed trinket.

Phoenix doesn't have visible legs and it will always be flying. In "rest" state on ground it will still flap it's wings. When "running" on the ground you will go at regular epic mount speed. Otherwise phoenix performs like any other flying mount and same rules apply.

if its "When running on the ground you will go at regular epic mount speed" -which is 60%, then earlier in the first paragraph, why did you say "Phoenix' speed is 410% running speed (310% flying speed)"

Comment by Hean

R.I.P.
Ezra Chatterton

Comment by Hean

Thanks alot for posting this, it'll help alot on the goal to get the ashes.

Also, an average run should take about 30mins with only trash and Kael'Thas Sunstrider without any wipes.

Comment by 221789

Regular epic mount as opposed the flying epic mount is what he was talking about.

Comment by Limbero

Regular epic mount, i.e. Epic Ground Mount, would be 100% speed increase or 200% total speed, not 60% :).

Comment by 323328

This is the best quality vid I could find of the mount - I def. need to convince my guild to try to farm one of these! AFAIK no-one on our server has one yet.

Click on High Quality ...one of the best vids of Ashes of Al'ar

Comment by 240138

Running in with no strat is a good way to wipe on Kael. That fight was never really a dps zerg, it is a technical fight and it is still more than capable of wiping a raid.

The point of running with less people in the raid is to have less people to roll on the mount against you. Should the mount drop, rolling against 8 other people gives you a much better chance of winning it vs. rolling against 24 other people.

Comment by 324090

It dropped on Magtheridon EU (80 run, 22 ppl's), 16/2/09.
Tho our master looter Ninjaed the mount, and there was a giant fight in /Trade... Now he changed his name haha..

Comment by 253383

how typical =) =p

Comment by 324646

R.I.P
Ezra Chatterton

Comment by 324646

Most people don't think its fair to them because Erza Got it first, He was sick and sadly died, (R.I.P),

Comment by furyelf

This dropped on Dragonblight US 2/15/09

As with the above, the master looter ninja'd the mount, and xfered off shortly thereafter.

Comment by 309534

-.- if you change your name then you're still gonna be on everyone's friend/ignore list, it changes it automatically... and plus the fact that you now have the freakin Phoenix... kinda hard to hide that. IMO, SS or it didn't happen :P

Comment by 320655

ezra was remembered during the lunar festival as TB's elder

Comment by 216029

All flying mount< http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32458 I love it best thing ever did by blizz

Comment by Hean

Actually Kael'thas is close to not needing too much, with 15 people you'd only need to make sure that a rogue can get the MC'ed out of that state, or that at least someone can CC the MC'ed people. You don't need to place the advisors any specific places anymore, but just make sure a ranged is tanking Capernian a bit further away from the others.
All the weapons can be aoe'd down in about 30 seconds together. The only real possible problem would be Phase 4 as MC'ed people who isn't CC'ed kills everyone else.

Making it short:
15 people who knows how to play and you got a nice, fast and clean kill.
Farming for it atm ;) Wish me luck. Also, good luck to anyone else trying to get this beautiful mount.

Comment by 258091

If anyone still doubts that this is in the game, I can confirm that it is!

Dropped today on a pug KT run, about 20 ppl in raid (major overkill)

A lucky DK rolled 100! Talk about saving your good rolls for when you need it... =)

Comment by 254605

I kill yesterday Kael'thas with a pug and ashes drops.A guy from a big guild Ninjia them im not blame him in his place i did the same but the guy now he get Gkick and everyone in the server hates him

Comment by 334103

fastest mount non-GM flying mount

Comment by nerfrogues

so i just got mine yesterday on my 80 tauren shaman with a very lucky 74 roll. and i now own the 2nd one for Stonemaul US. the other 1 belongs to an undead priest. coincidentally we are both in the same guild. however mine was achieved from a 20 man pug rather than with the guild. finally after all this time farming heroic magister's terrace for the white hawkstrider, i recieve an even better mount from the original instance.. on my first tiem downing kael. hows that for justice? ^_^

LAZER LIGHT SHOW PEWPEW!

Comment by 309391

IMO the best looking Mount in WoW

Comment by 236322

is this mount still optainable? sence wowlk is out we 10 maned tk without trying so wouldent thay take it off to stop everyone on the relm from geting it? a herd people say you can no longer get it but i don't know

Comment by 189686

Today just dropped in TH realm EU about an hour ago.So it still drops.

Comment by 333821

Well, maybe Ephoenix
should have
wished for a
health potion

Comment by 290301

Why the hell was this rated down?

Comment by 111622

I could have swore that I saw this drop from Kael'thas Sunstrider in Magister's Terrace. I'm actually 100% sure, I don't remember if it was Heroic or non, but I am 100% sure I saw this drop from MgT around the time it was first released.

Comment by 335189

thats a pet u can summon, the only mount that drops there is a landmount, kinda cool tho,but not nearly as ashes ofc

Comment by SpiderX3m

Rest in piece Ezra lets hope his dream came true and lets hope he is very happy now where he is...
And for the people that say "This is so unfair QQ free mount" or are just plain jealous or retarded...you should be ASHAMED.I pity your narrow thinking.

Comment by Tan976

This kids story is sooo sad. I hope hes having fun playing WoW in heaven. R.I.P. (heres his character on the armory http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Norgannon&n=Ephoenix)

Comment by jtunis

Since poor Ezra Chatterton has passed away.. well, can I have his stuff?

Comment by Supahtoons

Anyone know if you have to down Al'ar for this to drop from Kael'thas?

Comment by Maximelene

No, you don't have to. Killing a boss don't change the loots of another boss.

Comment by Hean

No, you do NOT have to down Al'ar for it to drop, you can now go directly up to Kael'Thas Sunstrider, instead of having to down any other of the bosses in Tempest Keep.

Comment by 347430

To be honest, yes it does. OS10/25 is an example =P

Comment by 221517

they really should make this scale w/ riding skill b/c u would have 2 pay 5000g to use it

Comment by 32ndShadowwind

Anyone know if you have to down Al'ar for this to drop from Kael'thas?

No, you don't have to. Killing a boss don't change the loots of another boss.

Yes and no, Maximelene. There ARE bosses whose loot is linked to other bosses you may have killed, however, Kael'thas is not one of them.

Comment by Supahtoons

Dude, it's a 310% mount. Faster than normal epic flyers. What more do you want?

Comment by 206322

Tbh with you , if this mount was boe, i could see it easily selling upwards of 20k gold, its extremley hard to get hold of, faster than most other flyers, so if you were lucky enough to get hold of one, 5k gold is really nothing to pay to be privilaged enough to use this.

Comment by LeLORD

I didnt know who is he
so i googled wow ezra and got then for all of u to read
http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/22/blizzard-and-make-a-wish-bringing-wow-to-life/

Comment by jtunis

Poor fellow passed away. But, I have a question..

Can I have his stuff?

Comment by 216253

Just made a video of my phoenix on Alexstrasza (US):

Youtube HD - Ashes of Al'ar

Comment by joshua10

11 days after Ezra's tragic death (Halloween), I did Tempest Keep for the first time, I read earlier about his death the same day of this raid, so I found a raid for it and joined in high hopes of getting a pheonix of my own, after 3 hours of raiding, we finally killed Kael'Thas, and everyone in the entire raid including me was astonished to see the pheonix had actually dropped, unfortunately for the other people in the raid, our raid leader ninja'd the pheonix and left the group, anyways, R.I.P. Ezra

Comment by ShiroRX

Best mount in the game. Period.

Kid had good taste.

Comment by Modibybob

It seriously doesn't get any better than this. I'd rather have this mount than any proto drake.

Rest in quiet peace, dear Ezra.

Edit:....Ummm, why am I being downrated?

Comment by 360897

i heard that they took this out of the game once wotlk came out, is that true?

Comment by 351416

No. It's a very low 1-2% drop chance from Kael'Thas Sunstrider in The Eye of Tempest Keep and you can only kill him once a week anyway so it will still be rare forever.

At least I think you can only kill him once a week. I'm not sure how the reset works on raids still.

Comment by Malinq

Still only once per week

Comment by Grekkor

I love my mount and will always ride it. Silly to think im almost at 100 mounts to get something Im not going to ride lol.

Comment by 173118

*cough* sarth *cough*

but yeah, you're still right :)

Comment by 173118

*cough* sarth *cough*

but yeah, you're still right :)

Comment by Lorre

Any1 knows if u can loot this mount if u DONT have riding 300 skill?

Comment by Dy77

can some1 tell me does the mount still drop? or did they remove it after wotlk came out?

Comment by Pachirisuneytor

Anyone on the raid can need on it even if they don't have 300 riding skill.

Comment by BetaFlame

Can anyone confirm if this mount still drops or not? I wanted to put together guild runs weekly to get people the mount (ha!) but a member of the guild said that it no longer drops.

Comment by Lorre

A very nice gm gave me some answers.

- The Mount still drops.
- The Mount can drop if u skip all other 3 bosses & just kill kael.
- People who dont have 300 riding, can roll & win the mount.

Hope this helps

Comment by daemetos

Come to Deathwing and ask about Fleshhunter. He changed his name to Bambishooter and still can't get groups or anything since he ninja'd the Grand Black War Mammoth from Archavon, and this happened a couple months ago. When someone ninja's something that rare, people don't tend to forget easily. Plus, that's what forums are for. To let other servers know of one person's asshattery, in case they transfer.

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Comment by 370924

Okay wowhead is stating that the ashes of alars drop rate is 1.7% so this is actually less rare than the barons mount or even the zulian tiger? man i'd love to have one of them it'd be so cool i love mounts :L

Comment by 127599

Yes but u can only attempt to get it to drop once a week so it should be higher.

Comment by 374030

After having lost it twice ( to two level 79 ret paladins, who both ironically had NO flying skill whatsoever, and who both also had the same DPS... 320!); on both occasions me rolling 98 and the two culprits rolling 100, I can safely say that:

A) Random loot is random (Along with rolls...) and
B) That ANYONE can roll AND win this mount, irrespective of level, riding skill, mother's social security number, etc..!

May I also add that this is an extremely rare, 310% flying mount; hence the stringent instance reset timer and the actual drop chance.

I'm in no way bitter, I tell you, not at all!

Comment by 352701

If I get a group of 80s ranging from 10-25 with gear of any level and maby a few 77+, we get by without fighting the other bosses as from what I read is possible to do, how long would it take to do a run of TK the eye just killing kal'thas to go faster to get the mount.

Comment by 311975

The other thing that has not been said is that you have to still have 15-20 others to contend with to roll on this item, unless you 1) reserve it for yourself or 2) take it without permission. With the ZG mount, you are only rolling 1-2 others, and with the Baron mount, you can pretty much solo it, making your chances for those MUCH higher, especially when you take their reset timers into account.

Comment by 140579

This mount still drops. I never got the opportunity to down Kael'thas during Burning Crusade, but I was invited on a mount run by an in-game friend of mine to tank the encounter and farm the mount. Well, much to our surprise the mount dropped! This was our first attempt, and after all the rolls were done I won it with a 99. I am currently the only Death Knight on the server with the mount, and the first Hordie to obtain it on my server. You can armory "Lechter" on "Ysondre" server.

It looks incredible, and is faster than flightpath mounts with On A Pale Horse to up the speed past 310%. However, whenever you do Kael'thas I highly recommend you get people who know how to loot the legendary weapons and use them to keep the raid from wiping.

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Comment by 153459

Fireproof pants not included.

Comment by 104074

Funny how with all those awsome dragons which we have now, this mount remains the coolest)

Comment by 404103

The best-fastest Mount is ASHES OF ALA'R ! 310% speed. But you need some good G for Training but whoever gets it is lucky for this mount , so hard that it's only 1.6% drop and it's in a very hard boss. Good Luck :)

Comment by 392114

Suggestion:

Do this with friends, so they dont leave when you change to master looter.

Comment by Bohrizan

Changing to Master Looter when he's at 5% or so works too. ;P

Comment by 317405

If I were Ezra, wherever he is now, i'd still be showing off this mount. Thing is awesome. :3

rip Ezra

Comment by Dranei

Does anyone know weather the drop rate was increased? I've seen the mount drop >> THREE << times in >> THREE << weeks in a row.

My guild just ran it for the mount after raid just three weeks ago, it dropped - then we had the motivation to run it every week. The following week it dropped again and last night it dropped again. Sadly I lost all those roles but is that insane luck or a much increased drop chance?

Comment by Ruilmen

Most people havent seen it dropping yet, you should be happy you did!
To bad you lost those rolls, tough.

And nope, the drop rate wasn't increased, you're just very lucky :p

Comment by 405138

I can confirm that this mount still drops, saw an Alliance Druid showing off his phoenix mount today in Dalaran, and I checked his achievement, 7/22/2009.

Comment by 403565

It dropped yesterday for me....first time I had ran Tempest so it was something else too see alar drop. Unfortunately the hunter raid leader ninjaed it, yep Greymane trade was exploding for quite awhile.

Comment by dle0105

Greatest looking mount ever!

Comment by 417273

Random is not random. There is no random. There are chances and probabilities and mathematics. To assume otherwise is to backtrack hundreds of years, ignoring everything we know today, and everything we learned.

Comment by 204972

Be warned: if you ever win this mount, you'll get a lot of whispers from people who ask if you're dying from cancer.

Comment by Dustfire

Minimum Recommended Kael'thas Group at 80

3 Melee - Break Mind-Control
1 Ranged - Tank for Woman Boss
2 Healers
1 Tank

Comment by lehearts

"Ashes of Al'ar" achievement

Comment by Rosebeef11

=(
He had the Phoenix?
I cryed when i was reading it...

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Comment by 461915

these photos may be perhaps the only lucky people in the game with it....some may be a private server, but honestly, getting this mount makes you stick out of the crowd so much...also, some people have quit wow because they either didnt get it or lost the roll by 1

Comment by 461915

everyone check the armory using this link....and it will show chattertons character, i thought he sadly passed away about a year ago, but it says he got the ashes of alar on the 24th (day) - 8 (month) - 2009!
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Norgannon&cn=Ephoenix&gn=Thirty+Second+Fleet

Comment by 464167

http://www.ezrachatterton.org/

Comment by 461730

Kids ,dont talk lies and baby stories ...world first for Method 31.7.2007...lol kid .......you are soo informed!.

Comment by 466653

is this mount still possible to get?

Comment by 456640

Just to confirm that this dropped last night in Patch 3.2.2

Grats to the winner with a roll of 88! (not I .. I rolled a mighty 4)

Good luck, future hunters!

Edit: Added winner

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Blackrock&cn=Swollows&gn=Defenestrate

Comment by 456640

Just to confirm that this dropped last night in Patch 3.2.2

Grats to the winner with a Need roll of 88 (not I, I rolled a mighty 4)

Happy hunting!

Comment by 444634

i believe that this has become more easily farmable as the lockout has been reduced to three days.

Comment by 329980

its still 1 week lockout , and i got it month ago after 24 runs =6months ,sadly gms removed it and gave it 2 pally who 1 killed kael cuz i ninjad it and raid thought it was ffa , i dnt know y they did that cuz on tos they said they wont invistigate any ninja items /mounts :(

Comment by 333821

Maybe Ephoenix should have wished for a
health potion

Comment by Niiku

Oh.... that's just in poor taste dude.

Comment by 190700

Such poor taste and goes beyond such boundaries justifying a ban.

Comment by Nessephanie

Two nights ago myself and a group of mostly 80's ran Tempest Keep for an achievement run and for fun, and low and behold the mount dropped!

I won the roll with a 94! So yes, it absolutely still drops! :3

Tavia
Silver Hand - US

Comment by 349103

"it still drops"

wow you are so stupid.

Comment by 484582

i am so jelous of whoever has this mount. i want to go into the eye and payoff everyone with 1k gold if it drops lol. i would do anything to get this mount. it is the most amazing looking mount i have ever seen and the speed matches the current epic mounts in wotlk. idk how i could go on if this dropped and i didn't get it lol

Comment by 478510

/cry... that was sweet man. really sweet... /cry

Comment by ZanathKariashi

I've seen it drop before. Though before I go too far into detail, it's a ninja story. Be sure to update your ignore list if you play on Gnomeregan.

We got a pug together, 20 man, and went to The Eye. It was mostly a guild raid from Revelation with a few filler dps. Korron was a lvl 70 mage without Wrath and got it together for achievements and to have something to do. Well we killed A'lar as a raid test, worked fine, and went to to Kael'thas fight. First time was a disaster. Fight glitched at beginning of phase 5 and Kael was untargetable while he eventually wore the heals down and killed the raid. 2nd try, no glitches and we downed him without any problems.

The mount, his orb thingy, Phoenix blade wetf it's called, a pair of cloth gloves and the 2 of the tokens a hunter can use, can't recall the name.

Korron saved mount for last, then to narrow down the competition, only let people with epic riding roll, I can't disagree there, though I didn't like it personally due to how rare a mount and irritating the lockout is. Anyways...like 8 people ended up rolling, and another guildy named Nannyog rolled a 100....everyone else was like 20-50's...so..no mess up there...there was about a 2-3 minute period of gratz and such till someone noticed that it hadn't been traded yet. About that time Korron gave it to himself and learned it. Of course the ninja crying began, he was spouting some BS about it being the only reason he started playing WoW and some such. He then immediately /gquit and started flying around shatt for rest of the day pretty much. 2-3 days later, my ignore list updated and he had name changed to AshesofAlar.

I'm pretty sure I heard the event actually got some publicity and some hate from GM's in part cause of the very underhanded methods used as well as fact it was 2nd ever server drop.

To the point. If you play on Gnomeregan and hate ninjas, be sure to ignore AshesofAlar, formorly known as Korron.

Comment by 489843

is this a 10 man or 25 raid?

Comment by 467770

I've never ninjad anything in wow in 3 and half years of playing but tbh I would ninja it anytime in a pug. first most ppl on my server are wotlk noobs and i couldn't care less about them and their qqing over /2, second, most end game guilds wouldnt care about my name being spammed over /2 at all since they would do the same in a pug.

not that I'm only admiting i would ninja it, I'm also encouraging you all to ninja it if you're running a pug, but if you're doing a guild/friends run then do not, simple as that...

i know this post will be downrated but 95% of ppl would do the same if the mount drops and you know it.

once, the mount did drop in a raid i was in and some guy ninjad it, i lold, didnt blame him what so ever, sure i was sad i didnt get it but i didnt start spamming /2, only a couple of ppl did, some guildless guys who frequently spam trade asking silly questions "whats the best trinket for dk?" and such....

so take care and happy hunting!

ps: think im gonna make a TK raid now xD

Comment by Nildrohain

Will the feat of strength be earned upon looting the item or upon learning it?

As in, is it possible to trade the mount after it has been looted, but before it has been learned?

Comment by 493530

Funny thing is that, the kid who's account you listed.. who's suppose to be dead... it was last updated on 11/10/09! he supposedly died over a year ago. Looks like someone benefited from his death.

Comment by 469276

Like someone has said numerous times, it's the account holders father that occasionally logs in and updates his account. Its still inactive, for the most part.

Comment by 496444

Dropped this mount on my lock... WAUW! But didn't got it :(

Comment by 329980

finnally got it AGAIN 2day after 38 trys{weeks} they removed it once on my 24th run but now i closed all the ways 2 report me so yea it still drops/and u can c it twice in one lifespan so gl with ur hunting/farming

Comment by Dianora

the 310% mount becomes 492% with Crusader Aura, which is as fast as the taxi mount.

Comment by 403619

I've never seen this mount, and it's drop rate is horrendous with a 7-day lockout.
Good luck getting this, it could take years but doing a 70-instance once a week isn't too bad. Good luck to anyone who tries.

Me? I'll go for the time-lost proto-drake.

Comment by Dianora

Just got mine yesterday, so as of Patch 3.3, still drops.

Comment by Dianora

I was invited to tank the place. Having tank the place pre-nerf, the only thing I did was to grab the shield to help with the raid. Fortunately, there's so much DPS, getting the shield wasn't necessary, as Kael didn't get one of his Pyroblast off.

The mount is indeed beautiful, made faster with my paladin's Crusader Aura.

Comment by baphomet58

What a waste of a perfectly good mount.

Comment by fragon900

That's just terribly sad...and I saw a comment a few days ago saying "What a waste of a perfectly good mount." Not sure if it's still here or not but boy, words can not explain how much of an a$$ you are for saying that.

Comment by 513000

How come TBC has much more impressive ^&*! than WotLK? I mean, much more legendaries, and even artifacts

Comment by Tassadaru

Dropped for me in Tempest Keep, on 17.01.2010, my first try. (Blade's Edge/EU)
One-shotted everything with a 10-man group, I rolled 100.

My two cents: put enough into it, and you will eventually get it.

Comment by PatchEu

Still by far the best mount in the game. It's very fast, insanely cool and colourful, and unique. Just incredible.

Comment by 530177

This mount is awesome. Got mine back in march of '09. Just submitted my SS of it. I get comments every day about it.

Comment by Boxxy

I guess you could say this mount is to die for.

Comment by Gumballs

Woah... that is really horrible for you to say.

Have some respect.

Comment by 434055

This mount would look so hawt with the Phoenix Hatchling. I'm burning up just thinking about it :P. Add a fire mage and I think my head would explode!

Comment by Boxxy

downrated? what happened to people being able to take a joke?

Comment by fmccloud

Oh, you can't take the criticism? That's too bad.

Comment by Gumballs

Because jokes about children dying of cancer are hilarious, right? -_-

Comment by 534410

I have too this mount "IS FANTASTIC" i love it :D

Comment by Random0008

Boxxy, go get cancer, then we can make fun of you. We'll only be joking, don't worry.

Comment by pitch

But, you need like 6-8 people to kill Kael'thas which reduces the chance to get the mount by x8. While you can solo the ZG Mount which makes it still be on ~1,61% like you said

Comment by Boxxy

Oh ok, i get it, a KID dying of cancer is terrible to joke about, but if this was some homeless guy who got AIDS from sharing a heroin needle with someone, no one would give a $%^&. Cool hypocrisy, bro

Comment by Gammosh

Kid with cancer is sad. Druggie with dirtly needle is pathetic. There's a difference.

Comment by jmdin83

Whats the difference between a dead baby and a pumpkin? ive never put my shtick a pumpkin!

Welcome to the internet. there are messed up jokes everywhere here. get used to it and stop bein so damned sensitive about something that happened 2(ish) years ago.

Comment by Hawkedge

The kid was terminally ill, you insensitive jerk. have a god damn heart.

Comment by 292020

gtfo

moron

Comment by 230809

In your case, it was because it WAS ninja'ed by a 'friend' for 'payment'

Comment by 378928

I saw it drop my first time running TK. To all the ninjas out there if you think you can get away with it haha. The leader was a ninja and bliz deleted it from his account shortly after. Now thats a waste :(

Comment by 314922

Most awesome mount ever. Been seting up some farmruns for it, but havent had any luck yet. I'd give so frikken much for this mount. Got 106 mounts atm, but id easily trade all of them for this1 if i could. Think im gonna get a stroke if i ever see it drop.

Some info:
Kael is not that hard with about 7 players. Its ezzzzmode with 10-15.

Setup:
2 tanks (1 must be warr / pala).
1 healer
1-2 melee dps (rogue perfered)
a few ranged dps

It probably is tons of guides of how u can do this, so ill just shoot in a short version one here.

Kill whoever of the minibosses that comes to u. They have very low hp, and are down in few secs. Then nuke down the weapons, 1 tank (the pala / warr) picks up the shield, so he can use the "Use" when Kael casts pyroblast. The rogue / rogues / melee dps picks up the dagger, so u can break the MC. 1 caster picks up the staff for its "use". Then u set up a kill-order for the minibosses and down them. Then u start with Kael. As long as the tank with the shield uses it whenever a pyro is coming, this is easy. Kill the phoenix (and its egg), and bring Kael down.

Good luck with ur mountfarming.

(Sorry for all spelling errors etc.)

Comment by Troxase

Hmm why was my comment purged i was just telling the date ezra chatterton died

Comment by Dotdotgooose

No, they didn't.

Comment by 19303

Incorrect. Crusader adds 20% mount speed. Thus 280% becomes 300%. 310% would become 330%.

It does not multiply it by 20%.

Comment by PandaSan

Not if I'm master looter they can't.

Comment by 552532

^rated up for using the term asshattery.

Comment by lysergia25

How in the World of Warcraft can someone be so cold...I mean don't they get that his life was cut way way short so yea I'm glad they helped him out! And all others who are given a unfair hand in life...

Comment by Seveventeen

Base speed of 100% plus 20% for crusader times 410% for the speed of the mount.

1.20 * 420.00 = 492

This works for any stackable movement increasing effect.

Comment by 368021

Congrats Roshlin :) I hope there will be faster mounts in cataclysm! Up to 1k % xD that will be dc speed lol. Im Exzavier-Lethon if you want to raid in 80 raids my guild is UNFORGIVING DEATHRBINGER whisper me whenever i am on.

Comment by dannyboy1100

The only item in the game actually worth ninjaing

Comment by 172791

Okey I do a Tempest keep mountrun every week and I use between 8-10 people.
The setup is quite flexible tho I can use druid tanks and such you dont really need a War/Pala since the fight with good geared people doesn't take that long.

My setup for the 10 mans is
1 Tank
2-3 Healers (just for safety in phase 3 and 4 when the raid might take some damage)
And just Dps in general with good gear. (A rogue can be handy for the mind controlling part but its not even close to needed)
I usually 10 man it but ive 8 manned it once and it was as easy as 10 manning.

When you trying to make a group everything week or such you might take in consideration to use group loot instead of Masterloot (if your not going to intentionally ninja) this way it takes less time to find people

Side not: If you really want a good and smooth run (then you need a Féynor)
Hope this helped you cu

Comment by 172791

fake and gay

Comment by 172791

falatha is fake and gay just check the poster above

Comment by 570142

i got time lost proto drake

Comment by Chromell

It is prettier and faster than your average flying mount.

Comment by popzap

Mount still drop.I got mine today(US-Dreadmaul).You don't have to kill any bosses before Kael.

It took me 17 times to kill him every week.

Happy hunting.

Comment by 539058

well, i got it without raiding skill on 300, and all adds were dead, boss died as the last one. sot its no true what you've wrote.

Comment by 312420

Just got this on US-Blackhand on my pally I don't log into very much anymore, may have to level this toon up first in cata to ride in style. Rolled 99 on my guildless, mediocre bg pally, very strong willed raid leader. Those trails go on forever!

Comment by Direbear24

this is a very beautiful mount

Comment by xMelchx

Got this amazing mount after 49 runs :)
Really, really happy with it, can't wait to fly with it in Azerith @ Cataclym!

Comment by Skornaq

I prefer my Netherdrake...But thats me. This thing looks like it belongs in a Vegas showroom if i am brutally honest, neon pidgeon ftw?

Comment by 582971

For those of you that wondering to kill Kael with minimum number of players, we started with 3, failed and got a range for the last spot.So it is doable with 4 good geared raiders. However you will need to know the tactics and use a tank that can use a dagger on main hand, in our case that was me, *protection warrior. ( Reason is MC is casted on 3, never casted on tank, tank will rescue the others. ). *Restoration druid with the mace. *Retribution paladin and a *mage with the staff.
Stay in 30 yards with your staff user at all times, and everything should be fine.

Comment by Malinq

You should've passed it then for someone that actually plays his character -_-

Comment by 534473

If you want to stop this mount being ninja'ed, do NOT let the raid leader turn on master looting. There's no point - if you're going to do normal rolling, you might as well let everyone need on it and the true winner will get it. Why use master looting and risk the possibility of a ninja? Of course, if you're doing this with a ton of 70's who don't want their gear ninja'ed then fair enough, but otherwise, might as well not risk it.

Assuming a 2%ish drop rate, the odds of you ever winning this are very, very, very slim indeed. If you run this every single week with 10 people for nearly 2 years (100 weeks) then your odds of seeing it drop once are approximately 86.7% and your odds of actually winning it are 8.67%. A less than 10% chance of you winning something once every 2 years? That's pretty painful. Yep. I don't think you're going to see many of these in your time.

Comment by 530761

Just got this today, and the roll wasn't master looted, won the roll with a 98, somebody offered 50k for it, and i declined it.

and for 2 reasons: 1. im gold capped at 214k, and 2. I've been after this mount forever, and then inspected the 1 who offered me the 50k and he had this mount too apparently, so I was in the right mind, and even stated that he had the mount and the whisper, and he was then rightfully gkicked for it, seeing as the guild leader (not my guild) was in the run and that he was good friends with me.

Comment by Keeyla

Just a bit of a silly warning for some of you guys who're farming this: the mount may actually start to hurt your eyes after a while, that's how neon it is; so take that into consideration if you have sensitive eyes.

Comment by 571275

Chinese Wow servers have been stuck at level 70...when I am in Shat I usually see about 5 Ally with this mount (I am horde) and about 3 on the Horde Side. A lot of Chinese players go to TK just to farm this mount. Usually they have a gold team that goes.. if the mount drops usually 35,000 G. I been just farming gold lately so I can get a chance to buy this beautiful mount!

Comment by Athenia

Dropped for me today after only 10 kills, vid here.

Comment by rilo82

Got this mount yesterday when I went TK first time with my buddies and won the roll (8 ppl). :)

Comment by Dawnrider

Nice to know something is done on your realm. On Kil'jeaden someone ninjas something like that ppl say "who cares" and raids with them anyways.

One guy named Pastry actually ninjad OS3d 10man Mount, OS25 mount, and TOC25, in the same day. Ppl said who cares and continued to join his raids that day and he gott o ninja all 3, even now ppl say who cares and joins his raids.

Comment by Ascha

I've only seen this thing on my my server (Skywall) three times. First being an Undead Rogue, then a Human Mage, and then a Tauren Warrior.

They were flaunting them on Dalaran's flight landing area, but who wouldn't! This mount is without a doubt, the best flying mount in the game, in my opinion.

I have been trying pretty devotedly to get this mount, but it never drops. Someday, maybe :)

Comment by MorpheusDV

If people are asking whether you can 5-man it with the current state of the game, the answer is "Yes, you can". Here's how we did it (Keep in mind, we were all mostly 277 geared).

Group comp was:

Prot Paladin
MM Hunter
Mut Rogue
Arcane Mage
Disc Priest

To make it a little more simpler, we used Kings and Gift of the Wild Drums from LW.

Here's how it happened:

Phase 1:

Adds come out one at a time. Try to have all the adds stacked with the exception of Grand Astromancer Capernian, in which the MM Hunter dragged her to the back of the room to die. This helps the Prot Paladin pick up the adds easier and keep them grouped up come Phase 3.

Phase 2:

Weapon phase. We had the Hunter and Rogue both pick up the dagger for MC control, Mage pick up the staff for immunity toward disorient and fears. Shield was not needed for the tank since Ardent Defender will save him from Kael's Pyroblast.

Phase 3:

Mage and Hunter both zerged Capernian as fast as they could, Rogue was on melee adds which the Pally was tanking. Both ranged DPS assisted and single targeted down the rest of the adds quickly once Capernian was dead. Watch out for Telonicus' bombs as they still hurt quite a bit.

Phase 4:

Hunter and Rogue were on dispel duty for MC. If both were MC'd, the other raid members used defensive CDs until the MC was up. Phoenix spawns are inevitable, so kill those off quickly including the egg. As stated above, Ardent Defender saved the tank from Pyroblast unless you could zerg the shield down quick enough and interrupt it. Keep doing this until Phase 5.

Phase 5:

Nothing really noteworthy here. Keep doing your normal routines until Kael dies, and hope for a phoenix mount!

We did this successfully so far 3 times without a mount drop, but we have hope it'll drop eventually. The trash is probably the most annoying thing 5-manning this raid. Yeah, you can bring 10 people and blow through this boss with relative ease, but 5-manning it, especially with heroic ICC gear gives you much better odds at winning the mount if it drops, considering you're only running it with 5 people versus 10 or more.

Good luck with your phoenix runs!

Comment by johnnyohoh

Apparently in Cataclysm there will be an NPC in Org named Ezza Chat' wandering around begging for free gold and high quality items and occasionally complaining that his head hurts.

Comment by 619941

There's a bug with this mount where you learn the item, but the item remains in your bags.

Amazing dialogue's accompany this;

Random Guy

OMG U HAZ PHOENIKS! GIEF!

After this it's amusing to open a trade and recieve the following;

Random Guy'

WTF HAX!1111one EBAY!

Minor note: This has dropped for me in the Burning Crusade on our guilds first Kael'thas Sunstrider kill. He wasn't killed for months on our server back then.

Comment by sl0Puffman

Winning this mount legitimately is like winning the lottery. Except instead of a million bucks, you get a shiny, flamboyant orange and pink bird that makes you the talk of the town whenever you mount up. You'll stick out like a sore thumb and attract whispers like ants to a picnic.

Comment by sl0Puffman

Comment by 625837

So... does this mean, conservatively speaking, that one could perhaps have this child's account?
hahaa sorry thats messed up
jokes

Comment by 626949

@voicy

As a proper mount collector, I've won this mount with grouploot on, and no gold involved. Lost it the first time it dropped, won it the second time. Went with the same 6 people for 22 weeks now.

1 Warrior tank (Wielding the dagger as well as the shield)
1 Ret pala/prot if needed
1 Rogue
1 Death Knight
1 Disc priest
1 Boomkin druid

Managed to get a screenshot before I pressed "Need" - Unfortunatly I almost died IRL when I won it so I was sitting on ventrilo asking the others.. "Did that just happen? Did I just win the mount I've been hungering for - for so long?" And the others said "Yeah man congratz." I felt sorry for the people who had to lose it a second time around, can only say I sympathise and know the feeling.

I was still in shock, went to Dalaran and stood at the well for a good hour and a half just looking at it, while loads of people gathered around our two Ashes of Al'ar.

Dream come true for a gamer nerd!

Here's a little video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfhpLwMBmAw
Enjoy :)

Comment by Leat

Ok, so I farm this every week. This is probably the best way to get the mount. Bascially, ideally around 6pm on a day I don't raid, I make a macro for an advertisement on trade. It says:

LFM 80s for Tempest Keep: The Eye. Ashes are reserved, but when Kael'Thas dies I will give you 100g, regardless of drops. Pst for invite. Need everything.

Yes, the trolls come out of their closet and begin the, "ashes reserved!1! lolllol!1! who wuld go to dat?1!1?//" but you just gotta ignore it. It's a little bit pricey, I usually bring 15 80s just to make sure it's a breeze, so drop 1500g every week, but it's guaranteed yours if it drops, since everybody that you bring has agreed to it being reserved. My group usually consists of 2 tanks 2-3 healers, depending on how geared they are, and the rest dps.

...it only has to drop, then it's all mine...

Good Luck!

Leat.

Comment by eternalshogunx

This is a beautiful mount, anyone reading my question in the phoenix npc's forum on who he drops from, please disregard, found this mount's page,now I know where he drops from. Thanks again. Can't wait to get him!

Comment by Allexger

Ezra "Phoenix Rainbow Robot" Chatterton passed on October 20 2008 at the age of 11...

Comment by 631626

Just got mine yesterday armory Blackmagique on Haomarush

I waited to bind it till I got to the Dal FP and about 80 people watched as the achieve popped up, and I spent all day flying around OL and NR exploring
so pimp... omg so pimp just wish it dropped for my pally

Also, wasnt ninja'd, the looting was Need before Greed, I just got lucky with a 97 definately the envy of Homorush right now

Comment by 540490

please stop saying i got in, i got one... we really dont care we just want info like if it still obtainable, can kalethas be soloed,5 manned etc or things like that

Comment by 463388

I also just got this on my main Slavinthos on Sentinels-US on 7/31/2010. It was my first time ever running TK and it was with a pug group of bored people from trade chat. About 14 people lvl 70-80. Needless to say, I purchased a lottery ticket the very next morning.

Comment by 463388

Dropped for me on 7-31-2010, Sentinels-US. (Slavinthos). My toon's first time running TK. Group of 14+/- between 70-80. Some people did not have epic flying, yet were able to roll on it. All bosses were cleared first.

Comment by darkillity

Agreed with Antariosh stop syaing i got mine, i got 1... & yes Ashes of A'lar is still obtainable (it has 3% drop chance i think),soloable as 6.3k+gs DK,5manable as 5.8k+gs ppl (preferably cc classes or too much geard ppl with high deeps).
I'm pugging this everyweek with 10 80s as a grp loot run!

Blàckrósè
Blackrock

Comment by 638860

droped on cairne US today for me at 2:14 PM this was this afternoon august 8th

Comment by 639307

I just uploaded frapsed movie of this mount. It was not my showoff but one from guy in Dalaran. Be sure to watch in "Original" quality.

YouTube.com

Comment by army1237

I love this mount, have always wished I had one, I only hope that the new dark phoenix coming as a guild reward in cataclysm doesn't make this mount less unique.

Comment by Luc88

droped yesterday on Ragnaros EU. First run with my tank warrior and win with 94 need roll:)

Comment by Silverwind

We're 3-manning him for the phoenix currently. It's quite a bit of a challenge with current gear levels. The key to it is a warrior tank using the dagger to dispel mind controls.

With only one damage dealer the forced transitions after 2/3min for phase 2/3 can be a bit of a problem. The synergy of a warrior tank using the dagger to get +25% magic damage on the mobs in p3 helps if you're using a magic damage dealer.

I imagine it could be possible 2-manning it with a tank and a healer if both can output enough damage to get past phase 3 with maybe 1-2 mobs up.

Here's a video of one of our kills.

Comment by Avasian

Probably the new Dark Phoenix wont make this one look less unique: Ashes of Al'Ar is still how you expect a phoenix to be (burning in bright flames). I managed to get it after just 8 runs but you know it might take a lot longer: just dont give up...it will be the "cherry on top" of your collection :)

Avasian, mount collector (144) on Hakkar (EU)

Comment by Avasian

Comment by HorusHeresy

Zephon, Draenor-EU

21/08/10. It's....beautiful!

Comment by IdTheDemon

Won this mount with a 47 with a group of 8 people. I still plan on running with the same people too. Easily the best mount in game and even with the Dark Phoenix in Cataclysm this bad boy will never be topped!

Screenshot of the epic roll

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/nofatesid/LOL47.jpg?t=1282429003

I also submitted a screenshot of the mount glowing green with a Disgusting Ooze. Its #22.

Comment by FiresDestiny

Hey guys, I just got this mount today, it was a long grind but I finally got it and I couldn't be happier. It took me 28 kills and I just wanted to share a couple strategies for getting this mount. Before I begin I just want to say that all of these strategies involve having a large amount of gold and I'm sorry about that, but there's no way you're going to get this mount unless you're either extremely lucky, rich, or a ninja.

The first strategy I tried was getting a group of people together to farm it weekly, and using group loot and trying to bribe the winner. I tried this for about 7 weeks and decided that it was a bad idea, as not many people would give this mount up for anything, even if I was offering them 80k.

My second strategy was to get set up 10 man pugs weekly and pay everyone 500g when kael died, no matter the drops. This worked for several weeks, but my pugs ended up failing because of bad tanks (becasue the adds aren't tauntable) or bad heals. This would cost you about 5k a week, however it still takes quit a bit of effort on your part.

My final (and successful) strategy was 1st of all to send a mail in game to the top 20 guilds on my server (using wowprogress.com) and asking them if they would be interested in running me through tempest keep every week, and I would either pay them 5k per run, or 200k when the mount dropped. When the mount dropped the GM would use master loot, loot the mount to himself, then trade the mount with me in the trade window for 200k. I messaged about 10 guilds and I got 2 guilds interested, but one guild ended up changing their mind. So the guild ended up running me for 10 more weeks and it dropped. I recieved my mount, their guild recieved 200k (which they split among the raiders, there was 10, so they got 20k each).

Again, I'm just posting these as suggestions as to how to get this mount and how I did it. Sorry if you didn't find this helpful and good luck on your hunt :)

Comment by oBLACKIECHANoo

its retarded how they give this to some kid just cause he was sick and then just how unbelivably pathetic must you be to ask to visit blizz when the make a wish foundation will let you do pretty much anything ? and all you sad pathetic hippies put there dont even bother saying some pathetic crap about me saying this, its the truth, get a life. but hey i have a cold i may just ask if i can have all the mounts and 300 free frost emblems wile im there.

Comment by 213657

You are pathetic.

Comment by hazmatt

I have absoloutly no idea what to say to you.

Ezra had cancer, and World of Warcraft meant a lot to him. Blizzard was being sensible when they gave him a mount. The pheonix was a personal symbol to Ezra, so Blizzard was nice enough to grant him one final wish before he died.

And don't QQ over not being able to get it. Go do more raids and stop flaming a dead 10 year old kid for having cancer.

Comment by Chromell

Not only you are a retard, selfish, arrogant prick but you are also very jealous of Ezra because he got the phoenix and you want it so bad. I can't possibly begin to grasp how someone can be so insensitive over pixels being given to a sick kid who admired the game and had the fiery bird as an important symbol representing whatever he deemed worth of it.

Personally, I hope you are never present in a group when the mount drops. Egocentric people like you taint and defile the personal meaning something within the game can represent to someone and the WoW community would be better without the waste of blood that your very being is.

Comment by BANER

wow...just wow

Comment by Kazeijin

If it wasn't for Ezra, this mount might not even exist. Have some respect.

Comment by 657190

A GM in a private server I play in told me that this loot has an "internal cooldown time" from 6 to 8 months, and so told me that until that cd was expired (he did tell me the date of the last drop), it was useless to do the instance. Since I haven't found any information about this fact, I was wondering if you guys could help me figure out if this dude is bs'ing me or not. Thank you very much!

Comment by 607447

I have yet to meet someone who is as small minded as you are. In case you don't know, this kid had a stroke. He was brought to Blizzard because it was a really great thing to do. He died shortly after. I have no respect for someone who would mock a person who died and left behind so much.
If i knew who you were,
I would have your account shut down
and have you banished from ever playing blizzard games again
you are a terrible person and you deserve what I'm saying to you

Comment by 657484

I just want to say that if your guild does this after you are done raiding icc or something and people that leave during the middle of your scheduled raid because they have a "migraine" should NOT be woken up to participate in the TK run..

An old guild I was in, the gm's wife left the BT raid earlier in the night and then after The raid was over with those of us who wanted to stay did TK and someone suggested the gm wake up his wife to do it with us because the majority of the guild was gonna pass it to her ... that scrub shaman ends up beating me with a 94 when I rolled a 91.. just pisses me off that she got it when she left the raid earlier and then wins the roll..

Let that be a lesson to you ppl out there..

also for it being on a 7 month internal cooldown for drop rate... that is bs.. a pug on my server went in there later on that night and it dropped again... insanely rare for that to happen.. but I got ninjaed so lol..

Comment by 558188

I wish you had taken Ezra's place and died instead. I'm sure he'd be a lot more fun than you are. Less of a &*!@#$-bag too. You must have such a tiny penis in order to be so angry at the world. Especially at a dying child. Troll or not, I hope there is a hell, if only just so that you can go there and burn forever.

Comment by 658755

Ashes of Al`ar
An avarage of 1-2% drop chance(1,6%drop chance reported by Wowhead.com)
Ok so basicly what we are going to do is look at the best and then look and the worst situation you can get
yourself into when trying to grind for the mount.You have to consider 2 things.The first is the actual drop
chance for the item.The second is how many people you actualy have in you raid group,having in mind that
you,byTBC and WotLK gear peak means,CAN NOT do this by solo.
Best case:
2% drop chance with a 2 tanks,2 healers and 4 ranged dps team.
2%=2/100 successfull outcomes + 8 people=1/8 successfull outcomes when rolling for the mount
2 1 2 1 1
---- x -- = ---- = 1 / 400 = -- x ----- = 0,4% chance for you to get it.
100 8 800 4 100
Worst case:
1% drop chance with a full 25 man team.
1%=1/100 successfull outcomes + 25 people=1/25 successfull outcomes when rolling for the mount
1 1 1 1
---- x -- = 1 / 2500 = -- x ----- = 0,04% chance for you to get it.
100 25 25 100
Wowhead.com`s report:
1,6% drop chance
- Best case:
2 tanks,2 healers and 4 ranged dps team.
1,6 16 16 1 16
----- = ------ , so we have ------ x -- = ------ = ... = 1 / 500 or 0,2% chance for you to get it.
100 1000 1000 8 8000
- Worst case:
full 25 man raid
16 1 16
----- x -- = -------- = ... = 1 / 1562,5 or 0,064% chance for you to get it.
1000 25 25000
WARNING: These odds are calculated when the equation is affected by only 2 factors.Any further presision
would have to involve an deep understanding of mathematicly calculating odds,that I dont have.
WARNING: These numbers may not be accurate.Pls feel free to correct them by any means.
WARNING: My english sux.

Comment by djinna

I ran TK for the first time last week.. Ashes dropped. I didn't win. Ran it last night... it dropped again! Again I lost it :( But we have two very lucky guildies rocking this beautiful mount now.

Statitical improbabilities ftw.

Comment by 661763

today I saw feral druid at dalaran flight point. He was so lucky that he got this mount in his second run of Tempest.

I armory him and found it is TRUE that it was his SECOND run.

His name is Deeplight. Check his activity on armory for Spet 14, 2010.

here is a screenshot of his armory

http://i52.tinypic.com/315bhip.png

WHY I CANT JUST BE AS LUCKY AS HIM!

and this is his armory link http://www.wowarmory.com/character-feed.xml?r=Illidan&cn=Deeplight

go to see this lucky druid

Comment by agentex50

Thank you my intelligent fellow wowhead users! About time a thread is completely void of rude little brats bragging about how they rolled a 100 or how they ninja'd it. As for the mount, I will simply say yes it is very rare and yes if you catch someone thieving it by all means ensure they have a very miserable WoW experience. Still haven't gotten it myself but i congratulate anyone who has gotten it that doesn't fall into the previous mentioned categories. Happy hunting!

Comment by 669545

Droped for me on my first kill, yesterday 09/28/2010.
You can check on my armory profile Ponnstar US-Thrall

As for curiosity, was one of those "come get ur achievment, LFM tempest keep"

Raid was a bit messy, but we managed to kill him and the raid leader (wich i dont remember the name), didnt ninja the mount and told everyone to /roll. I rolled a 99.

Comment by dm0190

I wanted this mount for ages, so I saved up 50,000G and then started setting up runs in guild. It dropped, I paid, yay. Using this method I have found to be the best way to obtain any mount in the game you want, as long as you are prepared to run and run until you find a player who is willing to sell. And yeah, the first time it dropped, they refused to sell it. It was their first run!
This mount will get you spammed with whispers, and people will assume you are a ninja, and you get instantly famous.
But it is worth it, it is so nice :)

Comment by q8naxxer

my big brother was playing with my account 4 months ago he was lvling a Warrior and he was 75 some guy was spamming LFM mount run 70+ and my brother go with him the mount drop he my brother rolled 100 but there was another guy roll 100 too ..

the raid leader simply give the mount to the other guy after that we notice that they where in the same guild ! the big LOL is my brother DELETE my worrior coz he was angry i talk to the GM and he return the warrior back after a week

thank good i was setting next to him or he was ganna delete all my toons :P

Comment by tirsgaard

ThIS IS ThE cOoLeSt MoUnT iN wOw EvEr!

Comment by tirsgaard

ThIs ThE COoLeSt MoUnT eVeR

Comment by Xynthia

After months of farming for Al'ar, It finaly dropped, BUT, I didn't win it :< (I died on the inside when i noticed that D:)

Comment by 179720

we have a 10m grp that farm this every week. Droped 2 times in 3 weeks....so i think we r just very lucky...

Comment by Chromell

I'd change the last sentence in the description to "This is a f*&!ing sweet mount."

Comment by Xynthia

Went there two weeks in a row and it dropped twice, My best friend won it the first time and I won it the second time :D

Comment by 694897

If your a mount collector, you will come to realize something. No matter how cool the mount may look, if its just a drop rate, really all it shows is that you got lucky. Basically ANYONE no matter how HORRIBLE can obtain it.Getting this mount does not = your super pro and better than everyone else, which every baddie on my server acts like they are pro when they got it. You are JUST lucky. I'm not trying to rain on your parade it is a really awesome mount but if u want something to really show your baddass go get an ICC meta achieve flyer, even the ulduar drakes are better to ride in my opinion. Grats to those that got it though, i wont say everyone with it deserved it because almost everyone that got it on my server is a total #$%^&* and this only inflated their ego. A great example of mounts that got destroyed would be zulian tiger/razzashi raptor, i used to think they were so awesome but i was seeing more and more people that could hardly play the game ride it. Honestly, if u dont have epic flying learned your an extreme ninja to roll on this. If you cant even get ur lazy butt to do like 10 dailies a day for a week and a half you dont deserve to ride this.

Comment by Meggie

Maybe the only shiny 310% mount. The rest is dead, rotten or pink.

Comment by Drunkenvalley

In my humble opinion both the two posts that include names in their reports are potentially filthy liars.

You see, that's why naming and shaming is wrong: You're very likely false in your claim,
or there is no data available that actually lets the average person verify the claim,
which means that someone is potentially just throwing a tantrum at a player for the hell of it!

Comment by uknown

my bro is saying this mount is gona away in cata is he full of it or what?

Comment by Chromell

You forgot the Black, Rusted and Ironbound Proto-Drakes. Not dead, rotten nor pink.

Comment by darkillity

this mount is goin nowhere even in next 50years!

Comment by 700488

This is a pretty good article about mounts http://franksplace.org/?p=418

Comment by 634973

Now with Cat coming out alot of people are going to shift gears to farming this mount. With the way gear is looking I would say a handful of people might be enough to do it. I know that the dark phoenix is coming out but still, how cool would it be to have the original as well?

Comment by Zammick

This mount is truly epic. Was doing a little bit of BC raiding with some friends tonight and we got to TK and were talking about how cool it would be if Ashes dropped even though that's what we weren't really there for, and surprisingly enough, the Ashes dropped, and everybody was speechless in vent. I unfortunately lost the roll, a level 71 alt character without epic flying had won the roll, quite a few people were fuming with rage and jealousy, and ultimately called it quits before killing the other 2 bosses.

Comment by 472978

Zammick, I love you and I am truly sorry for outrolling you and making Mikey rage. Much love, the level 71 Alt.

Comment by watitiz06

im currently looking for a guild to run me every week for ashes and ill pay you 150k gold when it drops to pass it to me contact me in game watitiz tauren hunter dalaran realm

Comment by badley

Screenshots or it didn't happen.

Comment by Zacklad

Just got it after my 8th run, whereas i've been farming the tiger for a year and no drop.... RNG ftw?

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8531/wowscrnshot112110133859.jpg

Comment by 708534

Soloed at lvl 85... sweeeeeeeeet

Epic music to boot! Love the one starting shortly before 7 min. /goosbumps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atATvXfxwPU

Comment by Tassadaru

After using it in Patch 4.0.3a (yesterday more exactly), I've found that Al'ar now glides. Blizzard must have worked on the new model aswell, since the introduction of the Dark Phoenix, and they both probably glide ('till now it was just wings flapping continuously)

Comment by 714616

Just got my Ashes of Al'ar today! Joined a trusted group with a leader from the #1 guild so I knew we were safe with group loot, I recommend that. We went with 9 people and I wasn't even thinking about the phoenix, we downed him and the leader linked Ashes, everyone called bull@#$% until we opened the loot table and saw it. I was on Skype at the time with a mate who won't stop reminding me of how I reacted when I actually noticed I won... That's my story, felt like a dream. Best mate IRL was in the raid isn't talking to me for a day after finding out he rolled 2 under me (85 winning roll). Good luck everyone else!

Sparkie, Conqueror of Ulduar

Comment by N3TKaT

Does someone know if the drop rate for this has been incremented? On my realm it has gone from nobody having it to seeing 6 different people flying around Stormwind with it.

Comment by 301562

Lucky kid got that FREE mount! wow.. good job blizz catering too the POOR WITTLE SICK KIDS NOW HUH?

Comment by 199002

when my guild first killed this 8-6-2007 on mal'ganis we got 1 and the gm ninja looted it to himself for his reward to leading the guild, the next week we went back in and killed keal'thas another mount dropped. we had 3 mounts total to drop, our drop rate for warglaives was even higher than our mount drops, we had 4 drop in our first month of killing illidan in total we had 4 people with glaives and 2 others with either the main hand or off hand

Comment by nonentity

Anyone having the problem that Al'ar's tail looks freaky, for a while now?

Like this http://img713.imageshack.us/f/wowscrnshot122010213313.jpg/
Also the pink glow effect on the tips of his wings switch off and on.

Comment by 743665

I was just with a group last night doing TK and it dropped... unfortunately I was not the lucky one to loot it and I was completely //lusting for it lol but we 9 manned it with all lvl 85's and it was easy enough to get the final bosses down... I am still incredibly jealous and plan on trying again multiple times until I either get it or give up on WoW lol

Comment by Avasian

Atm this mount is slightly bugged. It got a graphical glitch so the tail is somehow wrongly connected to the rest of the body and when its wings are spreaded wide, pink colour gradually turns off. Quite disappointing if you ask me but i guess they will fix it in the next patch.

EDIT: Bugs fixed in 4.0.6

Comment by 561600

The droprate seems to have been increased. I see a lot of people flying on this mount lately and i dont think everyone runs Kael now. The people wanting this mount have been killing Kael during Wotlk as well but i never saw more than one guy flying on it (medium populated server). Now i can tell of at least 6 different Chars on my server, the ones i checked we're optained after 4.0.

Comment by tapoo

Soloed on my warrior. Kinda lame with only a 3 min heal

Comment by 758296

Hands down the most beautiful mount in the game. Even better than the new elemental drakes.

Comment by nessim

Do you guys think it's possible to farm this as a demo lock?
With let's say a healer paladin?

Comment by 762369

drops from Kael'thas Sunstrider

Comment by 714558

Wait. What?

...so many wasted BT runs....

Comment by asdkafjd

Dropped to my 70 twink today ^^ in my 1st run

Comment by 766067

I saw one today on ravencrest server, nice mount. I wish I could have one.

Comment by 170975

soloable? kinda curious i mean rogues and feral druids(tank gear+spec) can pretty much solo alot old content, but is this doable? how much it hits etc? anyone?

Comment by bloodbrother

really wtf!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atATvXfxwPU

good player :)

Comment by Evulgnum

lol we are about to get the dark phoenix in like 2-3 more weeks ^^
shame eveyr reset is like 5k rep a week

Comment by 540829

I think he made the wrong wish

Comment by 773557

I just saw a dude riding Ashes of Al'ar in SW! OMFG! It looked so sick!

Comment by 709793

I really really really really want this mount.

Comment by Iceveiled

Just saw this mount for the first time tonight on alliance side, duskwood (not known at all for progressive raiding guilds...at all). I was mesmerized at the sight of it. I figured it was some new cata mount but nope. it's old schoolish.

I can only assume the owner transfered from another realm because I've been on this realm for 4 years and have never seen it. Beautiful mount, best I've seen.

Comment by darkillity

well after almost 2 years of farming finally Ashes drop'd.
we have a 3man grp of irl friends that farming tk when we hit 85,before that i used to pug 10man (grp loot) in wotlk.
anyway how we did this is easy as aff lock (me),dmeon lock & resto shammy.
in 1st phase i kited mini bosses to corners of the room & killed em so we have time to pick aggro/heal/dps in p3.
in p2 our demon lock used his aoe abilities to zerg down weapons (i helped him with my infernal & talented SoC),btw we only used staff to avoid periodic stun debuff during fight.
in p3 when all mini bosses r gettin res 2gheter our demon lock picked up Lord Sanguinar (he doin fear) & Thaladred the Darkener (he has no threat table & doin knock back+periodic stun debuff).i picked up Grand Astromancer Capernian (mage) & Master Engineer Telonicus,as aff lock i dont need heals to tank those 2 mini bosses at the same time,u can avoid Telonicus dynamites by runing left or right & keep up DoTs on both & use fel flame or instant shadow bolts to dps em.
in p4 we jus got lucky cause Kael only did mind control on our healer twice & we cc'd him with fear so it was easy.we also killed summoned phoenix & its egg asap to avoid get hit by aoe dmg.we pop'd every cd we had like earth elemental/BL/demonform etc to nuke boss.
in p5 u can enjoy fight cause its almost done & pray god for mount.
it was on grp loot & we all need on ashes & i won with 95 need roll!
i apologize for my grammer i know it sux.

Blàckrósè
Blackrock US
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackrock/bl%C3%A0ckr%C3%B3s%C3%A8/achievement#81

Comment by pl4kkie

What you also can do, is offering the player who won it some g's for the bee's. I bought my ashes for about 24k from the player who won it. Because it was an alt and he wanted on his main xD. I ran Tk 3 or 4 times max before i seen it drop the first time. It is rly worth the money imo since i still love this mount

Najietô - Stormreaver horde

Comment by icicle00

Why does the phoenix sometimes have additional bright white glow on its wings and tail?

look at screen shot #2 to see what i mean, and screen shot #25 shows one with the extra glow and one without it.

How do u get it to do that or is it random?

Comment by jesy

id love to know how much they upped the drop rate, because it must have been pretty substantial. I've seen about 15 new ones pop up in the past 2 weeks

Comment by 709220

First attempt at this in a loooooong time (5 man, 1 already had the mount), it drops and I lost it to a 44.

Fourty-Four.

<sigh>

Comment by nisx

After 47weeks i finally got it. My tactic was that if the mount drop i will pay 10k gold to everyone in the raid. Like every week i was doing it with 4-5 people with almost no problem (no wipes).In the end i payed 10k to every person in the raid and i looted the mount - everyone was happy.

Setup: 3-4 dps 1 healer and me (DK) tanking in dps gear.

Comment by 666977

A rumour is going round that this seems to drop more often (Higher %) if the loot is set to group loot?

This is unconfirmed as of yet, I myself think it's gossip :S

Comment by Melodieous

It dropped for my guild twice out of four runs on group loot. Don't know if it's true, but I can say I'll keep it on group loot for now on. =]

Comment by darkillity

man ur guild is pro! u can 6man that! great!

Comment by SirCero

Is the boss soloable at 85?

Comment by Drathellia

Ok I have only seen a few people say this in there descriptions of the raid, that Alar drops in the 25 man raid, is that the heroic version only... or does it drop in the regular 25 man raid as well.
thanks!

Why did this get down ranked I'm asking a serious question...
and why is furydeath trying to be funny but only coming off dumb. guess we will never know sometimes..

Comment by Furydeath

Yes it's the heroic one only but it only has a chance to drop between 3AM to 3:04AM on the 3rd Friday of of every other month in a Year that does not end with a odd number like 2011.

Comment by stormb

there are a couple classes that have been able to solo it at 85

Comment by deadlaserman

took me 5 runs to grind it, but at last i got it :) seen my friend get more lucky then me, 2 runs in a row to drop it but he didnt win, while i just made ML and took 4 ppl with me, payd each 10k if it drop :), so 100% win for me...

was worth the 40k, now onyxian drake on the list...

btw it is me or blizzard got cheep on files, when i summon phonix i get the sound of dragon, and same with the wings sound, damn that sucks !

Comment by Leat

I'm currently at 26 Kael'Thas kills. I bring 10 people (including myself) every Tuesday. I pay everyone 300g to come, but reserve the ashes for myself. 26 x 2700 = 70,200 gold in the hole. Yesterday, I saw an advertisement on trade chat "LF1M healer tempest keep **MOUNT RUN** free roll pst". I wished them luck. I shouldn't have done it. Of course it drops for them, but not me. And of course, a level 83 death knight from some no-name guild wins it. I would have been server first horde, but now he is.

...that little @#$got.

-Leat, Azuremyst-

Comment by maxkohne

You only need about 4-5 others to go with you. So easy at 85. Hell even 5 extras is overkill.

Comment by Chromell

Boo hoo, people unhappy with their phoenix mounts, you don't like that, DON'T USE IT.

Comment by 760297

The feeling of winning this over 24 other people back in the BC days, must have been better than winning the lottery.

I feel sorry for whoever has this mount, because they'll never be able to quit WoW for good.

Comment by Amidaman

Ironically, his father sold the account later for mad cash.

Comment by Tripfel

Im surprised there is no acheve for obtaining this mount, like the ravenlord or mounts

Comment by 779410

won it with 100 need roll, though it's my 7th or 8th Tempest Keep run... how lucky I am

Comment by Darleese

Did this today with 4 - all in a good selection of 359 gear.

Mage
Rogue
Paladin (tank)
Shaman (heals)

We had the rogue grab the dagger, the shaman grabbed the staff. We tried it without the staff a couple of times, but the fearing etc... was annoying, and cutting into dps. The staff made things much easier.

When the 4 bosses spawned at once, we used the following kill order, and found it to be the most effective:

1) All on Thaladred
2) tank/rogue on Sanguinar - mage on Capernian
3) All on Talonicus

To be honest, everything up to actually fighting Kael was pretty trivial. Once at Kael, the RNG becomes the largest factor. Kael can MC 2-3 people. For us, it seemed to always be three. If he MC'd three, I'd have to bubble, and then use other tricks to stay alive. Our best attempts came when I had resistance aura up, and Kael only MC'd one person (since he's supposed to do 2-3, I'm guessing the others resisted - not sure if the fact I had resistence aura up or not helped - it might have been purely co-incidental. I just know for future attempts, I'll have it up!).

On our successful attempt, he only MC'd once and chose the mage who just blocked it off. We did not have a Pheonix spawn. The key thing here is really to save every single DPS cooldown you have and be in position to nuke Kael like no tomorrow. You have to get him to 50% as soon as possible. Lust/Hero is critical. Once you get him to 50%, the fight is won... the next phase he does little damage, and you can relax and dps him to his death.

No mount this time... but we'll be back Kael. >:D

Comment by Blizzo

Ironically, his father sold the account later for mad cash.

You're nothing but a cold heartless piece of trash.

Comment by 735516

I dont know if any1 has mentioned this but al'ar does have a /mountspecial unfortunately it does not have sound with its /mountspecial

Got mine February 18th, 2011 :)

Comment by Leat

OK so Leat is back! I went with a pug (same pug where it dropped last week) on my rogue, and IT DROPS AGAIN. Also, once again, A DEATH KNIGHT GETS IT. I armory him and it's his 4th kill. Awesome! He totally deserves it.

EDIT: So it drops in THE SAME DAY (today) for a guy in my guild, Thekingkow. I don't mind that a guildy has it but why does it drop so often blizzard? 2 ashes of al'ar drops in one day? Really?

EDIT2: So, apparently there was a third today also. Just armory Bloodstrain, Thekingkow, and Foreplayz. All on Azuremyst horde. HAD TO HAVE BEEN INCREASED.

Comment by 735516

i think that its just coincidence that it dropped that often for u cuz my server only has 2 ashes in total and mine is the only active 1, the other guy hasnt logged in for a couple years.

also theres nothing wrong with being a dk, im a dk and got it on my 3rd run :)

Comment by 791775

does it only drop if u skip the other 3 bosses or what?

PLZ COMMENT

Comment by DragonsBlood

years pased and it's probably still one of the best,if not the ultimate flying mount so far... And i highly doubt Cataclysm has to offer something better. Dear blizzard,give us back the TBC times

Comment by hpdark

Started playing wow in BC, saw a horde rogue with it on our server and wanted it ever since. Killed kael a couple times before achievements came out... No luck.
Started farming this over the past 4 months. At 80 I would bring 8 people, 1 tank, 2 healers, and 5 dps... No luck
At 85 I tried to solo (warlock) won't work due to kael's mechanics with a pet out. He mind controls me, I kill my pet and he resets. So I've been 5 manning it every week. 1 tank, 1 healer, 3 dps, cakewalk.
15 kills and it finally drops, I almost crapped myself seeing it, I was prepared to go for years without ever seeing it. I've been saving 20k to bribe the winner each week. Had 40k on me and if they turned it down I was prepared to offer it all.
Won the roll by 1 with an 84. And I couldn't be happier. I would've died if I saw it drop and didn't win. Many weeks of farming finally paid off.
Keep at it and best of luck. You will never see it drop if you don't try, so good luck farming.

Comment by 664366

good thing you got it because I would have laughed at you if you offered me a stupid 40k for this

Comment by Serotin

Something like a week ago my guild asked me to help them out on the boss.
I was like ´Okay, I´ll help them out and I get achi.. Bored anyway´
You can guess what happened...
Got summoned to the boss. Killed it. Ashes dropped. Rolled it with 5 people. Looted it.
*Zing*!

Comment by lopkorv

Got Al'ar on my 70 priest yesterday, mission completed coolest mount ever √

Think I was extremely lucky tho, totally I've done this Instance 7 times and with the 1% drop is just insaine.
When Suntrider was dead and and saw the mount in his corpse couldn't believe my eyes.

It was on masterloot and I thought that he the leader might would ninja the mount, but he didn't
One guy rolled 96 then another guy rolled 96 I was shaking but still i wrote /roll

I rolled 97. Truly one of my best day during WoW

Comment by Jaromor

When looting is there Disenchant option? :P

Comment by 796449

i just got this on my alt i lost the roll of course but the guy who won it had no idea what it was worth. I asked him what he would take for it and he said 8k. i was like you are joking right hes like no . sent money to my alt and luckily i sent 20k just incase someone else in raid bid more and i ended up getting this mount for 13kg i would of paid 120k easy. It is by far the most sexy mount i have next right ahead of the Azure Drake. it will be till the Crimson Firehawk is available.

Comment by elcius

Dropped 2 weeks in a row, me and a guild friend hunter started 2 manning it about a month ago, he got his last week, i just got mine, still feels nice, but i feel as though they may of nerfed the drop rate.

Comment by 626791

Ok i have been running this in 25 man with 25 level 85s, for the last three months it has dropped every single time, and i won every single roll, I have about 11 extra Ashes of Al'ar now. SO #$%^ YOU!

Comment by flinkder

Well after loosing it 4 months before, in wotlk while i was going every week 8-10 man,i changed my tactic.
Now at 85 i just find like 5-6 other players,and we make a deal.If mount drops i take it and each one of them gets 10000g.
Until now i can find easy people to come,so i guess with a hight amount of luck it will drop again.
Well if u got the money and u think that this mount is really worth them,try it too.I can only wish you Good Luck!

Comment by roxy2009

Last night it dropped, so it is still obtainable :) 1st time there and it dropped rolled a 97 v v v happy

Comment by 486872

What's worse then never seeing the ashes drop? Seeing them and losing.

Comment by 486872

What's worse then never seeing the Ashes drop? Seeing them drop and losing.

I ran this a lil before Cata with 14 retards, as opposed to making my own raid because I didn't think the mount would ever drop, and of course, it did. A tauren druid !@#$%^bag that had never been to TK, didn't know who Kael'thas was, and only wanted this mount cause he thought it gave you free 310% speed won and then complained it wasn't a dragon.... worst day of my life.

Comment by 486872

What's worse then never seeing the Ashes drop? Seeing them drop and losing.

I ran this a lil before Cata with 14 retards, as opposed to making my own raid because I didn't think the mount would ever drop, and of course, it did. A tauren druid d0uchebag that had never been to TK, didn't know who Kael'thas was, and only wanted this mount cause he thought it gave you free 310% speed won and then complained it wasn't a dragon.... worst day of my life.

I don't expect to ever see them again and neither should anyone else that has seen them drop once and lost.

Comment by 486872

What's worse then never seeing the Ashes drop? Seeing them drop and losing.

I ran this place with 14 retards a little before cata, thinking the ashes couldn't possibly drop, but of course they did. Some tauren druid that had never been to TK, didn't know who Kael'thas was or what the Ashes looked like won and proceeded to immediately learn them, only to complain that he didn't get free 310% flying like he thought he would (only reason he wanted the mount) and how it looked like %^&* because it wasn't a dragon.

He did OS 10 3D immediately after and won the black drake which he's ridden around ever since as opposed to the ashes.

My blood still boils to this day, so the lesson is if you're going to run this then make sure you're going to win or you'll cry forever because the Ashes won't drop again anytime soon, if ever.

Comment by 486872

What's worse then never seeing the Ashes drop? Seeing them drop and losing.

I ran this place with 14 idiots a little before cata, thinking the ashes couldn't possibly drop, but of course they did. Some tauren druid that had never been to TK, didn't know who Kael'thas was, or what the Ashes looked like won and proceeded to immediately learn them. Only to complain, once he was mounted, that he didn't get free 310% flying like he thought he would (only reason he wanted the mount) and how disappointed he was because the mount looked "kweer" compared to a badass dragon...

He did OS 10 3D the same day and won the black drake which he's been riding around instead of the Ashes ever since...

My blood still boils to this day, so the lesson is, if you're going to run this and actually care about the mount, then make sure you're can't possibly lose or you'll be very sorry for a very long time, mark my words. Seeing the Ashes drop is a miracle and usually miracles don't happen twice.(##RESPBREAK##)2060##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Comment by Pornstar

Just got my ashes last night only 2 runs and one month after I got the achievement for TK ran a 3 man group after our raid, new 85 holy pally 360 ilvl feral druid and me a 360 ilvl dk tank consider myself lucky got my hand of rag in september 2010 after only 2 solo runs and got right half of my bindings last week.

Comment by 500878

Does anybody Know if this mount does or does not not drop when master loot is on?

Comment by 434941

Just got my Ashes of Al'ar Mount yesturday and it makes me sad and happy, sad because Ezra is no longer with us and happy because his dream will be with us for decades RIP Ezra xxx

Lucilla lvl 85 EU-Bloodhoof

Comment by zepstah

I feel I need to tell you my story of obtaining this!

It was a normal raidnight, my internet was being &*!@ so I asked to not participate. However while being online I thought of doing Tempest Keep. Since I hadn't done it this week. I invited some people, and we we were going at 20.30.

20.50 we're attempting the boss first time, with a warrior that never had done this. He failed with equipping the dagger because he couldn't find us (I was marked with a star and stood jumping on the dagger)
Our healer had to leave 21.00. And I asked for one last go before we call it. We kill him that try, just before 21.00.
I see it, I shout!

See the rolls, and I didn't win it. I asked the winner if he wanted to sell it for 60k, and he said trade me.
I did and I got this beauty for only 60k! My heart was beating so fast and I was so happy. I was gonna offer him all 120k at first, but then I wanted to go from 60k ---> 120k if he didn't want to sell it at first.

This was my story. Good luck hunting! Totally worth it! :)

Comment by flinkder

Wtf did blizz boosted the drop rate? last week on twilight's hammer server dropped once and this week dropped 2 times!

Comment by Eatmypie

As to be expected Cata gear makes it easier still. As an (equipped) 358 average ilvl warrior tank and an equally geared resto druid, and a doomkin with mostly 346 and a couple 359 we beat this encounter extremely easily. mechanics are ignorable, being as the mobs have only 196k, doomkin was killing each target in about ~15 seconds. Drop rate on mount is still 2% though, so even if you 3 man it thats about a .7% chance that you'll win the mount. go with friends, ninja it, or pay people in advance to pass on the mount. Paying people to pass is worth it imo, being as this is, in my opinion, the coolest mount still currently obtainable.

Comment by 364103

Aggramar server has seen 2 in as many months, i know because i just got mine today, almost 4 years after it was put into the game and i decided i wanted it.

Second time i've ever seen it drop, bringing the server total to 5, 4 ally 1 horde

Comment by nikkihamrick

Hey, this is awesome so I copied it with your name over on the page for the boss. This is a huge help!

Comment by kiowa

I disagree, I don't believe someone that doesn't have the proper flight requirement for any rare flying mount should be able to get it for a number of reasons. The most important one is that there are thousands of players that have been farming said mount for a long time an can use the mount upon recieving it. Letting someone that more than likely has only looked or tried for this mount here and there and that cannot use it is an insult to those who have put in the time and research and has the required skill.

Comment by Kokiron

I just got mine last night. I'd been camping Deepholm for Aeonaxx and got Blood Seeker instead, so I figured i'd gather a few guildies and go smack Kael for some old tier gear and a chance at the mount. We go in and wreck his face and lo and behold the mount drops and I win with a 94. Couldn't be happier (I'm a huge Kael fangirl, still hate what they did to his character in tbc :\ ), probably wont be riding anything else for a long while.

Also going to add, if you want to three man this each week with some friends just make sure one of you can equip the dagger and deal yellow melee damage and one of you can equip the staff, and have the person with the dagger tank Kael. I three manned this with a couple friends after I got the mount on my main, comp was a combat rogue (85, lol roguetank), a fire mage (85), and a resto shaman (82). With an 85 healer the staff might not even be necessary, but the silences are annoying so I'd probably use it anyway. He wont MC the tank if there are other targets, so having the tank use the daggers makes it so you can just stack up on them and when you get MC'd they can just smack you with something to break the MC and go back to tanking the boss.

Comment by Rocheku

Luckily nowadays Kael is very easy to solo for some classes, and will continue to become even easier with each tier.

I wonder tough. If Blizzard decides to take the story back to Outland, and redo the content there like they did in Old Azeroth, does it mean they might remove Tempest Keep etc as it still would take place in Outland's past?

Guess only time will tell.

Comment by 364103

So much hate from people, down rating comments from the fortunate few that have obtained this rare of rare drops.

Regardless of when you got this mount it's still very noteworthy seeing as the drop rate is very low, I know there's still some servers that don't have one at all, and that's 4 years after release. Higher population servers are seeing more simply due to more people going in to farm it.

RNG is RNG, if the dice gods decide to grace you with a drop, weather you get it or not, you should consider yourself fortunate to at least SEE it and be afforded the opportunity to shoot the dice.

I've seen it twice, once in TBC on the last BT attunement run we did, and just a few days ago. I told stories of how i'd been in the raid when it dropped and that it was paid for in DKP dearly. The second time it was all the luck of the dice.

And i've noticed from sitting on it that the tells i get are a fair mix between congratulatory, to straight hate tells, and those who don't even know where it comes from.

I've got no problem passing the information on since I don't hate on anyone that has it. Even if the drop has been increased, which i sincerely doubt, it's still a very very special mount.

Comment by Wulfric11

GREEN PLEASE

I figured out how to calculate you chances (in a percentage) depending on how many runs you do of the instance.

1. Open a spreadsheet
2. In cell "a1", type: 0.988
3. Drag down the cell, depending on how many runs you have done/are going to do
4. In another cell, type: =product(a:a)
5. In the cell that you wrote: =product(a:a) a decimal number will appear
6. Minus 100 by the first two numbers after the decimal, and you have your percentage

You cannot get exactly 100%, because every time you run the instance you get a 1.2% chance of it dropping.
e.g.
If you ran it...
...3 times you would have a 4.6% chance of it dropping
...5 times you would have a 6.9% chance of it dropping
...10 times you would have a 12.4% chance of it dropping
...20 times you would have a 22.5% chance of it dropping
...30 times you would have a 31.4% chance of it dropping
...50 times you would have a 46.4% chance of it dropping
etc...etc...

hope this helps all the solo-ers out there ^^

Comment by Leat

@melinia,

It is NOT easy to solo. The trash takes about half an hour to clear, and then the KT fight probably just as long, if you do it your first shot. So that's 1 hour. I myself have not been able to solo it as a ret paladin, it's REALLY hard. I can kill the weapons fast enough, but don't have enough time/mana to heal up to full before the adds res, and I have to blow my CDs in order to kill the weapons fast enough, leaving me with no burst damage to burn down the mage. The engineer catches up to me first, and I die. I am iLvl 355 and used a vicious crit trinket for the removal of a conflagration.

So no, it is not easy to solo for most classes. Only locks, DKs and hunters have proven is POSSIBLE, let alone easy. I have not seen any paladins or warriors confirmed having done it yet, which is surprising. At this point, for me I think it's just a gear thing. Maybe when 4.2 rolls around and I get full 396 or whatever the item level there will be, it will be easier. Maybe I should try it as prot, although I don't think that would be enough damage.

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Comment by 779812

I just got this beautiful mount on my hunter.

Funny thing is,I just made a group to get my T5 chest(I already had the T5 shoulders) for the 2-piece bonus to solo old instances.The token didnt drop though,but this did.

I think I deserve it after camping the TLPD for 3 months and still not getting it.

Comment by 803457

can any1 tell me if this still drops in cata?

Comment by blackbone

Even though it's been available for a few years now, I still rarely see more than 1-2 players actually riding this pet.

Kael is probably soloable for some classes (deathknight / paladin), but 2 manning him or even 3 manning him is a huge risk due to his mindcontrols.

If you make a balanced 5 man group you should be fine though.
It's a lot faster than soloing as well.

Comment by 626791

You really have to love rare drops like these.

When you run the raid and your on the boss you heart is pumping faster and faster as his health goes down. You are checking everything to see if it is going to work. He dies. You run up and your hand is shaking when clicking the loot button. You see it. Your heart drops to the bottom of your feat. You can't believe your eye.

this is why i love wow

Comment by bojan112

not many people run Tk because they dont know about tactic to down kael with 2-3man, and people that want mount so badly would rather see no drops then let it in wrong hands so they dont make bigger raids

Comment by 364103

I took 6 people in when I got mine. While I can see the logic of fewer people = better odds on your roll, doesn't matter if you take 25 or 2, if your dice suck then sorry about your luck

Comment by ElliotHunts

Every week me and two guildies run Tk, Eoe and ony (tank/dps/heal). It's a wonderful number and it's far more fun running with people you like and know well. We've seen the azure drake and the ashes of alar drop so far in our runs and continue to do the runs until each of us gets the mount we want. My advice is not to be daunted by the difficulty in soloing these places. Find a guildie or a friend who will do regular mount runs with you and eventually the mount will drop.

Comment by Fizzles

Does anyone know if this can drop from the new Satchel of Exotic Treasures?

Comment by 505015

Got mine yesterday @Kilrogg EU :D

Comment by Xavicus

Got mine yesterday. Maxflaks tarren mill EU, 2 manned the boss and the mount dropped, will be helping the other mate to get it, which he hopefully will in the near future!

Comment by 758296

Every week I get a group of 5-6 total people and I pay everyone 200g for coming. I set the loot on master and if the mount drops I keep it, and everyone else gets to roll on 25k or split the 25k. Getting Ashes is priceless so this is a good way of ensuring I get it if it does drop.

Comment by 825531

Mine dropped today, first try on my lvl 75 resto druid alt.....kinda mad that an alt got it but still stoked that I have it at all.

Comment by flinkder

go die! u should pass it for a lv 85 or even sell it to one! having it on a alt i could say its curse!

Comment by Chromell

And I could say you're jelly.

Comment by ElliotHunts

For those Ashes owners who'd like a weapon to go with this mount try The Burning Crusader. The coloration of the axe compliments A'lar perfectly.

Comment by 656191

Just got this beauty today! Made a 5-man group for it with the mount reserved for me for 50k. I never thought it would drop, since i had already seen it once and some random guy who had never been to TK won it and didn't care about it at all. Since then all the runs i do are with the mount reserved. As a friend told me once, gold comes and goes, but this mount stays! I guess some few people are lucky enough to see it drop twice, so for all of you mount collectors like me, don't give up!

Comment by AleAle

I've killed him 52 times, no mount yet.
The rule are simple.
I'll take the mount, other 3 guys roll, the highest get 75k and the others 2 only 5k.

The rumors of the increased % of drop killing the other bosses it's true, or not? (quite obviuos answer)

Comment by maxkohne

Haha this week will be my 60th for me. You can easily save yourself some money. I run every week and only pay 10k per person if it drops. If it doesn't drop, nobody gets gold. I only take 4 others.... 40k gold for Ashes is a great deal imo.

Also, the drop rate has NOT increased nor decreased. Since more people can solo it, you see more people with it. Sigh, the art of perception is very deceiving. It's all an illusion.

Comment by maxkohne

I think the Golden Staff of the Sin'dorei with fiery enchant looks better especially with the Orb of the Sin'dorei and the Summer costume from the summer event along with Phoenix Hatchling to complete the set.

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Comment by HorusHeresy

I've seen it drop twice on 2 different characters. It does happen.

Comment by 835666

Well I used the idea of paying off guildies to come with me while I take the mount and well it payed off! First run tonight and what do you know Ashes of Al'ar!

Dmwt
US Arthas

Comment by RuVe

It's pretty cool, but you cant fart on it...

Comment by 779373

i solo it with my main hunter and dropped few days ago.free awesome mount!

Comment by Syncness

By the way, this mount has no "sit" animation.

It's always in its flying animation, and the sound is a light shudder as opposed to the heavy flaps of proto drakes.

It can glide as well as flap, and may disconnect you if you swirl and fly around too fast (lol).

Comment by 302353

Slightly increased droprate since the release of Cataclysm according to a GM.

Comment by Willemstyle

I've obtained the mount yesterday, and I can't explain in words how happy I am.
Here the steps I took to hunt for the mount:

Ask your guild to make you eligible to create guild events. I got promoted in my guild, so I created the guild events on my own.
Create a Tempest Keep raid for every week, and make it available for everyone >70 to sign up and participate.
Each time I took the leadership for the raid, and assigned master looter to myself. My guild was okay with it, because they trust me, and I was the one creating and leading each raid.
I did the raid for a total of 8 times. 8th time, the mount dropped (I was lucky)
We all rolled for the mount, and a guildmate won the roll
I asked the following to my guildmate: "Can I buy the mount for 35000 gold? Yes or No"
My guildie answered: "You can have it for 35k"
I opened the trade window, gave her 35000g, and looted the mount to myself.

This way, it doesn't matter how much people participate the raid. Just offer a enormous sum of money to the winner of the mount.

(If he wanted the mount instead, I would have give him the mount. I'm not a ninja)

Some calculation on win chance:
If I can calculate it roughly, and if I base it on a 5-man run each week:

- 1.4% drop chance / 5 man = 0.28% win chance per 1 raid.
- 100% - 0.28% win chance = 99.72% lose chance per 1 raid.

The calculation on total win chance is:
- (1-((99.72%)^X))*100
Wherein X = the amount of attempts

Scenario:
- 5 man raid
- Every week 1 attempt
- Everyone rolls need on a fair roll for the mount

Amount of attempts - Total chance for winning the mount:
1 - 0.28%
2 - 0.55%
3 - 0.83%
4 - 1.11% (one month)
5 - 1.39%
26 - 7.03% (a half year)
52 - 13.56% (1 year)
104 - 25.29% (2 years)
260 - 51.76% (5 years)
520 - 76.73% (10 years)
1040 - 94.58% (20 years)

Comment by Drathellia

First the only stupid question is an unasked one.
Second, actually "Coniel" i joined when BC launched. My main is a BE hunter, i was still under lvl 60 when WOTLK Launched, because i have a life and don't just play this all the time, so sadly i missed a lot of the older high lvl stuff; because most people only wanted to do the new stuff.
So before u try to look cool, know more about what ur talking about before u just say things and eventually come off looking like a d-bag.

Comment by bojan112

yes drop % is increased; why are you 4manning it? it can be easily 2maned with almost any class combinations as long as you have staff wielder+some sort of tank (not really needed if you can heal/dps alot in p3)

Comment by Mamimi

and because the Phoenix is the symbol or rebirth, it was a meaningful symbol because he knew there was a very good chance he was going to die and when Phoenixes die they arise from their ashes.

Comment by 832230

The drop rate of this mount has not been increased or decreased.
I made a ticket myself because in 2 weeks I happened to see it drops twice and I got it both times. (Paid the winner)
Screenshot of the GM conversation:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/ashesj.jpg/
In case you do not believe me. Im on Hellfire EU in the guild Netherstorm. Character names: Rémus and Remusz
Have fun farming this mount!
P.S.: Sorry Poupi! <3

Comment by 464052

anyone know of anyway to solo this boss!

How about with 4.2 around the corner about to be released? :D

Comment by 846014

pls buy fly mode okay

Comment by HazardousPizza

It looks ugly to me TBH...

Comment by iIIusion

Dropped about 20mins ago on Illidan in a 6man Group.

Priest named Greekgodess from Livid won it with a 94 i do believe.

All i could offer was free food and portal's for life. I do not have much gold :(

But of course, they refused my offer.

Someone offered 75k
Someone else offered 125k

Dunno if Greek decided to keep it or sell it though.

Comment by GanondorfTM

Awesome! Cant wait to have 45 years old to see it!

Comment by 854226

I Really must say this Mount is the best mount in game i just love it to much

Comment by stathisdjs

Uhm, no. If he IS playing WoW in the afterlife, that would mean he went to hell after what Blizzard has done!

Comment by cubele

Ive been doing TK for 6months now on my hunter pally, just started on mage also month ago and still have yet to see it drop :( , i reserve it on my server for 30k which is lucky

Comment by maxkohne

Try 68 weeks and never see it drop once... I am also paying for it.

Comment by 24142

Just got this as of yesterday out of chance. A group begged me to come dps it and I reluctantly accepted. Sure glad I did.

I've never had so many people whisper me "I hate you."

Comment by 712420

I saw it drop the 1st time I went in there... I rolled a 95, I thought I won until I saw another hunter rolled a 96...

Ever since then, its been killing me that I was so close to winning >.<

Comment by mindalover13

To all folks who own this mount, I envy you so.

Comment by 861002

The % for the mount to drop is 1%. So if you do it 100 times you have an 100% chance to drop

Comment by 861444

Would just like to say I'm having fun with this beautiful mount! Fun sitting in Orgrimmar and having people stop where they are going turn around and say "Hi, how did you get that mount" and i just reply with a macro i made because of to many people asking on a daily bases.I got mine 9/25/10, just thought to reply now. If your farming it good luck don't give up its well worth the wait!

http://s3.postimage.org/nv88v64mt/Wo_WScrn_Shot_080211_005104.jpg
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Backoff Of US Sever Duskwood

Comment by 745233

Won this mount yesterday. I can't believe it dropped and winning the roll was just so awesome. I love it <3.

Comment by NeremWorld

It looks like your dear friend Ashesofalar sold his account not long after he changed his name and then it got deleted or whatever. %^&*!@# made 180 bucks.

So he did it purely to sell for cash.

Comment by thats5

This page is slowly turning into Thottbot.

Comment by dardack

OK I really think the droprate on this has been increased. I've seen it drop on my realm a ton lately.

Personally I went in Feb and it dropped (and I was 2 manning it, and the agreement had been I get first one, I'll stick around each week to help him farm. He says 15k and you get out of your agreement, so that was a cheap ashes IMO).

I've gone maybe 8-9 times since then with another friend. But this past few days, I've been 2 manning a ton of old raids with a friend who didn't start playing until LK. SO we 2 manned Naxx/BT/Hyjal, so we decide to go to TK next. We kill all bosses and get to Kael. I couldn't believe it, it dropped again.

Sigh if it's true that the Droprate has been Inc, I'm gonna be pissed, I was 1 of 3 ally that had it, now like 8 ally have it in the past 4 months.

Comment by ocping

You guys will hate me but I gotta say this: got this biatch on my 4th kill a few days ago.

http://ocping.wordpress.com

Comment by Chromell

It's supposed to be a dark humor joke /pokerface

Comment by Incarceron

Dropped for my mage on my second run. It's quite noisy.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kelthuzad/Vyndvia/advanced

http://i.imgur.com/wi4Pv.jpg

Comment by citrique

The only annoying thing about having this mount is how other people constantly go, "oh the drop rate must have increased" when they see you on it, as though saying so is somehow going to diminish your having gotten it.

There's still only six hordeside on my server (Kel'thuzad US) and it took me 36 kills to get mine.

Comment by xeradclan

I did Tempest keep with some guildies today. Won the roll on this. I have only killed the boss 9 times. First time i saw this drop i was second highest roll.

Today when it dropped i won the roll. The group that I went with plans to do it each week hoping to get the other 3 people the mount as well.

IMO this is the best mount in game. I have wanted it for awhile but have not farmed it like i have some other mounts.

Purvis- Horde- Maelstrom

Comment by 530279

Got it on my 2nd attempt (if you do not count those 2 I did long time ago for achiev. and stuff), pretty lucky indeed. Kael can be solo'ed as moonkin, which adds this class spec to the list of those lucky people who can get their phoenix mount alone without a guild (or fixed team) runs - together with DKs, Rets and Shadowpriests. It's been a long 18min fight (first solo kill took 22mins) with quite high apm and some rng factor.
Not going to spam this page with tactic explanation, you may find on me on Bloodhoof and ask yourself :)
Happy hunting!

P.S. Mount is amazing indeed, worth time spent on it, even if it's 3 months each week without a drop.

Comment by 876366

sorry to say but i got it 2 days ago on my main Zaina Fizzcrank EU didnt even know the mount dropped i was just going for tier 5 tokens... honestly i didnt even know what the mount was called until i looked it up after i won it with a roll of 65 ..... i thought it was called phoenix or something, i knew the whole story behind it just not waht it was called i guess.. btw it was my 1st time even running it

Comment by maxkohne

I would love to contact you but you didn't give a name. You only gave your server. What's your gear like? Full Firelands? I am really interested how you did this.

Comment by wowZhenek

44 runs, 2-man with friend alt-protpala and me (mage).

Comment by 751581

Three people in Intent have gotten it in less than a month. Buffed or not, that's ridiculous luck.

Comment by Cyclops727

This is a really good mount compared with the one that ragnaros mount, and goes great along with the phoenix hatchling and some firey armor.

Comment by 881719

Just got this mount today and I love it. Rolled a 100 against my 5 other guildies and the next top roll was a 37. The funny thing is it was on a rogue which I just got to 85 yesterday and it was my first time being in TK in like 3 or so years. I was really happy and of course they offered me gold for it but being the smart rogue I am of course I kept it. Great mount and within 1 hour of having it someone asked me if I had cancer. Great day.

Comment by 882307

Got this lovely mount today after a wow dream of wanting it, and it finally came true! I two manned the instance it with a resto druid, I as a fury warrior. Seeing the little orange icon on the screen made my heart skip quite a few beats. I pair it with my phoenix hatchling! So yes, it still drops!

Method Used:
The method we used to two man the instance is one that others may recognize. At the time of attempting this with a fury warrior and a resto druid, our ilevels were about 360 average.
Phase 1 is simple, defeat the four as they are introduced. Something that may come to use for you is that wherever you pull and kill each one of them, that is the location they will resurrect. This may help some make more time to defeat each advisor more individually.

Phase 2 are the weapons, I killed the Staff of Disintegration first, and my restro druid equipped it for the next phase for immunity to the Remote Toy debuff Master Engineer Telonicus casts. I then killed the Cosmic Infuser, and then Warp Slicer. After that, I killed the other weapons in no specific order. What I always left for last was the Phaseshift Bulwark because it doesn't do very much damage in case the phase ends.

Phase 3 was always the most irritating,
The first you kill is Grand Astromancer Capernian, she uses Arcane Explosion whenever melee/someone comes close, and knocks you back with a slow debuff. As a fury warrior, you have multiple ways to kill her as quick as possible and get back to her in melee range. Intercept, and heroic leap. Heroic throw is useful whenever it isn't on CD. To refresh your intercept CD, use heroic fury. At this point she is either dead or almost dead.
Afterwards, depending on how well your resto druid is able to keep both you and themselves healed, you either kill Master Engineer Telonicus because of his remote toy debuff, or Thaladred the Darkener who will silence and focus aggro on a specific player. He still does substantial damage to non-plate wearers, therefore this may be a consideration whether your resto druid/healer is able to keep up with healing. For me and my resto druid partner, we killed whoever depending on the situation.
Lastly, you kill Lord Sanguinar who doesn't really have much of a threat.

Phase 4 is when Kaelthas himself comes into play. Make sure you pull Kaelthas behind the statue of himself on the right side of the room. What you are trying to do here is make sure Kaelthas cannot see your healer, therefore he doesn't not cast Mind Control since the extra player is out of LOS. You healer however should be able to see you, healing you whenever you need it. Kaelthas will also cast pyroblast which is able to be interrupted. Occasionally he will call forth phoenixes, which you kill if they are in distance. If you move too much around the statue and your healer is seen by Kaelthas and he starts to cast mind control, do not run back behind the statue and have one of you disappear from view. You will cause the fight to reset. Generally, this scenario should always be avoided because the dps/warrior will do a good job of slaughtering the healer.

Phase 5 begins when Kaelthas is at 50% health and he runs back to his altar. There will be a brief period of time at the beginning where he is raised up into the air taking in energy where he does not damage you. If there are any left over phoenixes from the previous phase, this is a good time to clear them out. This phase is pretty easy, interrupt what you can and whenever you are pulled up into the air, avoid the black clouds which is Nether Vapor. What Nether Vapor does is decrease your health pool by 10%, and this can stack up to 90% health reduction. Not avoiding these clouds can end your fight, unless your druid is able to use Rebirth and resurrect you. What me and my resto druid partner did was not dps at all this part of the phase, and move away from the Nether Vapor clouds. Eventually his health pool reaches 0% and all you need next is some RNG luck!

Keidara
The Venture Co (US)

Comment by 39713

Proof that it still drops: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/allahlf.jpg/

This is not to brag or anything, but rather to encourage people! Seeing that logo was absolutely stunning. Even though there were times where I was about to give up, the reward is amazing. Do not give up guys!

Been going 57 runs on my druid without seeing it, and 3 on my deathknight where I got it on the 3rd run. Random is random.

Best of luck guys!

Comment by 140994

Ashes of al'ar dropped yesterday
Ravencrest EU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xG4Q-Q4X6U

I frapsed it even. Did not won tho..

Comment by 885045

patch 4.2 confirmed this mount is still obtainable. Got it on my warrior on doomhammer 9/02/11
great mount

Comment by Chromell

Oh really? I was afraid the many, many bragging posts above couldn't confirm that, thanks for your clarification.

Comment by Leat

Right now, I've done 65 of each of these runs with the mounts reserved: VoA, TK, EoE, and Onyxia. Still empty handed. Lovely.
Also killed Attumen over 100 times.

Comment by Thelothian

Dropped yesterday... Got it. Really really lucky... It's not looking good with a nelf, but nevermind. :)

Comment by Orchimonde

Got it 3 days ago after having taken a long break from WoW. Did about 40 runs on my warlock, 0 drops. Did 2 runs on my warrior, drops the 2nd time around. Won it with a 58 roll vs 4 other people too.

Comment by 867101

Got it from first run today... amazing mount and i know i´am extream lucky.. :D

Comment by Narcolepcy

After 26 runs I finally got this precious mount. I'll count myself lucky since there are people who have gone 50 or so weeks and have not even seen a drop. I was also fortunate enough to have two friends running with me and were willing to pass on it for other mounts that they wanted more. I also have a Priest that runs with me who happens to be my lucky charm for rare drops. I nearly had a heart attack seeing it drop. I couldn't believe it but there it was. Anyway, good luck to everyone else farming for this mount.

Narcolepcy - Archimonde US

Comment by Playingnaked

I'm so happy that I have obtained this mount after so much struggle and farming..... I had just got back from 200hrs + farming TLPD without sleeping...but in the end I managed to hunt him down :)))

So as a DK I can pretty much solo this every week.. but since it takes allot of time to do so, I called some friends to help me fasten up the processes a bit.

I had this feeling for 2 days... I kept thinking in my head that the alar would actually drop for me this week If I go... and it did! I was so happy I was shaking..... I Will never ever forget the moment I started screaming like a girl on skype.

I wanna say this to all the people who might eventually hate me for being lucky... I am not lucky as you think.. I work hard for these moments years of struggling.. RNG can be a b.....

I wanna say thanks to my mates, Dollicious, Orfeni, Ramon. who actually passed for me the mount - I didn't use master loot even though they knew they where coming to help me for the mount... What I mean is that I trusted them...and will always do.. I met these people not longer then a month ago.. So guys the virtual world of friends is still possible.. their is still hope!

Kazzak- EU - Playingnaked.

Comment by 847809

Ok Im sick of this! If you kill it 100 times, it doesn't mean the mount will drop, the % doesn't change no matter how many times you kill him.

Watch how downrated this gets.(##RESPBREAK##)2060##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Comment by 892792

Few tips to get the mount more easier !

These are the most honest ways to get the mount according to me
1.Get into a group with 1-3 persons (it will make it easier to win the roll)
2.Don't kill the 3 bosses because you don't have to kill the bosses to get the mount.

This is not the most honest way to win it .. But quite good !
1.Assemble a group with about 1-10 people and put on masterloot before you kill the last boss so the group members wont suspect anything ! And then you can get the mount by yourself by ninja looting it.

Comment by Nestroix

If u ninja the mount a player can report you for this and u will lose the mount, the highest roll person will receive it :P
Happend to me when i rolled highest on the warglaive and the MS ninja'd it.
Received the glaive withing the mail.

Comment by 199713

after 5 runs i finally got this lovely bird!

my friend spammed me that i had to come and heal it and after alot of arguing i came along, 4 ppl in group, all needed, i got it, 8 days earlier i also got Azure drake from Malygos with about the same drop rate, im a lucky guy!

Comment by kaeleb

The topic of chance drop is always a sticky subject. The key is in the wording and what you mean by 'chance'. The possibility of a drop will always remain constant. The probability will increase the more attempts/roll you get on an item.

So in essence the majority of previous posters are correct but only in terms of how they describe their 'chance' of getting the drop.

Comment by 867101

Just to help you guys i post this.

I know some of you guys want to ninja loot the mount if it droped recording to MMO-Champions vote about it 52 % would ninja
- Dont do it !I
Did it some time ago ( About 2 weeks ) and it was removed from me and 3 houers ban.... Only telling this beacurse its such a sadness to see your mount go away :(... And yes i know it was wrong so stop hate hate comments -.-

Comment by 894540

Does it still drop on 25 man or 10?

Comment by 895271

iv been trying for 3 years every week and iv never got it. it have drop 2 time didnt win it a singel time

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Comment by Elendill

For some weeks now, I solo Kael'Thas as a moonkin, you need some stuff, I would say that a 359 ilvl helps a lot to manage your mana bar and reduce the length of the 4th phase.

I use a Lunar Shower spec, with 2 points in Furor to help my mana regen, you would probably get rid of it once you managed to do it a couple of times.
Also, overwrite your Glyph of Wrath with the Glyph of Starsurge.

Be sure :

to have 3-4 free slots at least in your bags before engaging KT.
to bind on your bars your weapon (main hand at least), Cosmic Infuser and Staff of Disintegration
to use your innervate as soon as you are at 55% of your mana bar.

Trashs :

First you need to clean all trashs until Al'ar (dragonhawks patrolling included)
Go right (or left, your choice)
Wait before turning left (or right) to Kael'Thas, you must kill trash mobs just before Solarian (Void Reaver) room entrance, then go clean the way to Kael'Thas (you don't need to clean all trash packs in KT room, just then one at your right (or left) when you get in

P1 :

Thaladred : Pull the boss, then go at TK entrance, right in the corner, you can wait for him before Al'ar room to dot him (just one line of dot, overwise you could kill him), finish him in the corner, be careful with his bump, when you go in the corner, be sure that you're not too close from him before.

Sanguinar : He will come by the opposite side you cleaned, use the same tactic, like Thaladred, be sure his fear won't throw you out of the instance, kill him at the same place.

Capernian : Sprint (Dash + Stampeding Roar) to the side you cleaned, and go just before KT room, in the corridor before the "laser" door, wait for her, LB*3 + Rejuv, dot her before she conflagrates you, kill her, no difficulty there.

Telonicus : Go back to al'ar room, use the line of sight to make him get out of the corridor, one line of dot, wait for 20 seconds left on Remote Toy to dot him again, when he's dead, go at the corner between the main corridor leading to solarian and the one leading to Kael'Thas.

P2 :

The legendary weapons are not hard to kill as a moonkin, just stay where you are (described above), plant mushrooms (if you see you won't be in solar for this phase, keep your starfall up for this, just be in Eclipse state), make them detonate when they're all there, thorns, dot them all, starfall, barkskin and lb*3 + rejuv, finish them, loot Cosmic Infuser and Staff of Disintegration, then go to Capernian corpse.

P3 :

Capernian : Put hots on you with the mace, switch to the staff, and use it to get the cc-immunity buff (all this before she spawns), kill her, no difficulties here.
Telonicus : He will come 4-5 seconds after she died, if you did it time, deal with him the same way you did with Capernian.
Sanguinar : Coming 5-8 seconds after Telonicus's death, get away from the laser door to prevent fear problems, kill him.
Thaladred : He will come 10 seconds after Sanguinar's death, spam your moonfire to kill him, while you go toward the place you were to kill the weapons

P4 :

That's the hard part of the fight, wait for Kael'thas, hot yourself with the mace, when you see him from the bottom of the corridor, equip your staff and get the buff, before he comes to you, show yourself and dot him, get out of los using the corner to interrupt his fireballs.
When he reaches you, use the other side of the corner and repeat.

Things you will have to manage :

Arcane Disruption : he should do it as soon as he's close from you in the above-described situation, be sure to have the staff buff on you at this moment. When he did it, equip the mace and lb*3 + rejuv on you, the buff has a 30-second duration, so you'll still have it for the pyroblast, switch back to the staff for the next Arcane Disruption
Pyroblast : You should have the fire resistance buff from the mace, check anyway, or it will get you to 15~20% life, and it's really hard to come back at top life in this fight (except without Tranquillity), be in moonkin form for the damage reduction, he will probably do the Arcane Disruption just after the Pyroblast
Phoenix : Dot them when they show up, keep your living stars proc (or your starsurge at least) and your starfall for the egg's spawn, kill it fast, don't let them revive, or you could be easily submerged.

You'll probably need some time to manage this phase, don't forget to use your innervate on cooldown during this phase. You'll mainly bring him down to 50% while moving from place to place, if he just did his pyroblast and is under 60%, heal yourself with the mace until he does his arcane disruption, equip your "cataclysm" main hand, use all your cooldowns and kill him, don't care about phoenix spawns, you'll kill the during the transition.

Transition & P5 :

Burn him down while he goes to the middle of his room for the event, don't go through laser door, come back then to the weapons' place. Countdown about 15s after his last emote (while he goes up and the wall breaks apart) and equip the immunity staff. This phase is really simple, kill the phoenix when you are under the effect of Gravity Lapse, use line of sight to cancel his casts, repeat and rinse, if you manage to have at least 30-40% of your mana bar at the beginning of the 5th phase, it's almost won, just be sure to not be touched by the floating dark spheres while you're in the air, or you won't hold the whole p5.

I hope this guide will help some of you guys, it's far easier to do it as a feral, but hey, where would be the fun ? :p

Comment by 338102

I wish to happily inform, after some years attempting the mount, it finally dropped for me,

heres proof of my armory here

a note to say, it was a guild run! and to be honest none of us where to expect to have the mount to show, it was a run for transmog gear for 4.3 since some people wished to have tier 5 i helped them get it so everything was on open roll.

and then upon the looks of 12 people on the raid, the so fabled ashes dropped

i waited to the last second to all the greed/need rolls to drop so we could get a clear view of the roll

and there... 98

right now i can describe myself as the happiest player in wow!

cheers and good luck to you all that are aiming for this mount!

Comment by pancakemage

I got this today, first time in tempest keep.

Comment by pancakemage

I am getting negative because I got Ashes of Al'ar in my first ever run... jealousy hey. :P

Comment by pancakemage

Alright alright, maybe not you, but other people. And I cant give you a guide because.... well I have only and only ever will have done it once and I didn't even know tactics... I made us wipe like twice too hehe... Ohhhh how I deserved it.

Comment by casedistorted

I had this situation happen in Wrath the first time I saw Ashes of Al'ar drop. It was my second downing of Kaelthas ever when Ashes of Al'ar magically dropped. Of course this was early Wrath so we had to run TK with about 20 people to make it easy...none of us expected the mount to drop but it did and who won it none other than a death knight that was a brand new wrath baby that had just hit level 80, didn't even have epic flying, and didn't know what the mount was. Of course when one of my friends offered him 20k gold for it (which was a lot in those days) he proceeded to keep it and actually ended up buying gold from a website in less than an hour so he could buy epic flying to use the mount. The thing that made my blood boil about that was he proceeded to fly around on the mount on our server (Demon Soul) for about a month and then either deleted his toon or never logged on again. Everyone remembers his name on our server too...Sandwichh.

Luckily Cataclysm made TK a bit easier, but for a warrior like myself that can't solo Kaelthas it still took myself, 1 healer, and 3-4 other dps. 6 months later of doing Tempest Keep every lockout and it finally dropped again for me, second time I've ever seen it drop and luckily I was the one that got it.

But I agree...sometimes there are just people out there that are undeserving.

Comment by Chromell

You didn't deserve the mount because RNG does not play by fairness. The only thing you deserve for bragging is the downrating you're getting.

By the way, the huge amount of comments saying "I got this in X runs" that became downrated should suffice to show you and everybody else that this is not the kind of information relevant or interesting regarding the mount, its droprate or tactics to kill the boss.

Comment by Lasmettus

Was and still is the best mount in the game. So colorful and beatiful. Nothing compares to this mount if you ask me =)

Comment by Darungos

So I got this mount today.

I was sleeping at the Inn at Stormspire, Netherstorm with my mage. I just wanted to take a fast nap before i continue my mining farming.

So suddenly I heard noice outside disturbing my sleep. I run out and saw a guy in the air that has lost control of his air-machine and was spinning like hell... I didnt have time to react and first thing I knew was me sent flying up in the air...

So i used blink to "avoid falling in the void" (yea kewl poem i know) and slow fall imediatly to land smoothly and not hurt my ass! (I know the blink and slow fall stuff is irrelevant to the mount but i felt like sharing them cause i know you /care)

So after I landed I woke up and saw Kael touching my boobs. (female mage i know you /care about that too).
So i am going to skip the textwall and say how i got this. I simply told him that if he wants keep touching my boobs i want a free mount. And there it was.! AFTER THAT I WENT --> amagad wtf heartbeat leet kewl lol ...spam gchat...!

It was my 0 run! I know im lucky, hate me all, lalalalalala!

Message to all the dimwit tards out there. Stop trolling and give us something usefull. I admired that mount since i first saw it in Shatt. Its the best in game and i agree... But we DONT /CARE on what run you got it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIUBVPddJsk&ob=av3e
(they removed link so go search youtube Akon - We dont care)

Me, out ..beep...beeep...beep.....

Comment by Kraaimoar

Mayhaps a bit of a useless comment but...

In Icecrown the flames coming from Al'ar's trail turn fel green.
Seems to be a lighting glitch but it looks pretty neat!

---

Wyrmrest Accord - Horde
15 runs

Keep trying folks! Run with a small group of people you know will appreciate it.
Avoid straight up PuG's as with any other mount! Avoid horrors stories!

Comment by 863437

Hit run number 50 today on Kael'thas (just counting the tracked kills, also did several before the tracker was introduced). I am determined to stay at this as long as it takes, but I must say seeing so many get it with so little effort put in and so little appreciation for the mount is a bit upsetting. My server has seen 3 this month, 1 went to someone about their 15th try, another went to someone who had never done TK before, and the last went to someone who I spoke with a bit about the mount. We traded stories about farming the mount for a while at which point I asked him how many runs it took. His response was something to the effect of "Quite a few, I have been trying since I leveled this toon to 85" which prompted me to armory his character and see a whopping 6 next to his total Kael'thas kills. For those of you who genuinely got this mount in less than 25 runs (I say "genuinely" because phrasing it as "anyone" is likely to just provoke fake responses along the lines of "Got this first try, UMADBRO? LOLOLOL) should cherish the mount and understand how incredibly fortunate you are. This is not now, nor is there ever likely to be a mount as amazing as this, which is why I am still slaving away at TK every week a full year later. Good luck to all the farmers, and don't let the lucky ones get you down!

Comment by Knox90

Dropped today for me and 4 other guildies, I won the roll, killed Kael'thas 19 times to see it drop, had farmed it before on my Wotlk Paladin which never dropped.

I was quite surprise to see this dropping since I never had high hopes every week, amazing mount still keeps a bit of rarity but these days you see more and more, guess that's how time flows. Keep farming never give up, takes 10 minutes every week, so good luck.

Comment by forthshadow

I have been soloing this as a Shadow Priest off and on since Cata dropped. Got it last night on my 25 run.

Spec/Glyphs Used: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bfMoZZGrGdMkrd0ro:smMMRV

Now for my strat for soloing Kael.

Begin by clearing all trash up to Kael's room, including all the trash in Alar's room and the hallway leading to Voidreaver.

Start the fight and immediately running the the entrance of the Instance during the RP speech, if you are slow you will be locked inside the room and its over.

Kill both Thaladred and Sanguinar while you are at the entrance. Keep your back to the wall wile fighting Thaladred and apply Fear Ward when Sanguinar shows up to avoid getting thrown out of the instance.

Once they are dead head to Alar's room, Kill Capernian near the ramp on the right side of the room. Once she is dead, quickly head over to Void Reaver's hallway so Telonicus comes down the way you cleared the trash.

Kill Telonicus near the enterence to Void Reaver's Room.

Once the Advisers are dead the Weapons will spawn, Fight them in the Hall leading upto Kael's room, As soon as they are in range, Sick your Shadowfiend on the Shield and Fade off the agro. Use those 10 seconds to Burn down the Shield as fast as possible as it interrupts spell casting and you will die. Once the shield is dead Kill off Mace next then multi dot the the rest of the weapons down.

Make sure to Pick up both the Mace and the Staff as they are needed during the fight with Kael.

When then Weapons die, or after 2 min, The advisers will all wake up, Since you have spread them out all over he instance they should come at you one by one, simply kill them in the 30 seconds or so before the next one arives, You will need to have the Staff Equiped During your fight with Telonicus and Capernian. Make sure to recast Fear Ward when Sanguinar shows up. Simply kite Thaladred, around untill all of your Cooldowns are up or untill Kael spawns.

Just before Kael spawns equip the mace and cast any heal or Glyphed PW:S, this will give you the Mace buff reducing Fire damage taken by 50% for 30 seconds, you will need to keep this up through out the fight, at all other times you should keep the Staff equipped and active so as to not fall victim to the his AOE stun, it looks like Arcane explosion. Kill the Eggs when the Phinoxes die to prevent them from Re spawning.

Occasionally he will put up his Shock barrier and begin casting Pyroblast, at this point you should Pop Archangel or Shadowfiend and burn through the 80k needed, once the shield is broken Silence him to stop the Pyroblasts. Alternatively you can just Disperse the Pyroblasts and/or heal through it.

Once at 50% he will run away and then start casting Gravity Laps, sucking you in and putting up a Shield, simply swim away and keep yourself alive, he is for the most part immune to all damage during as he spams his shield. Once gravity laps goes down its back the the previous grind, keep it up and eventually he will fall.

Simplifying it a bit, keep the Mace buff up, keep the Staff equipped and active, PW:S on cd, line of sight and heal/renew when needed, use CDs for mana, cast SW:D for mana if needed, always Keep dots rolling, kite the Pheonix and always kill the Phoenix Eggs. Once past the 50% mark the fight is much pretty much over simply burn him down while keeping yourself alive.

Good luck and Keep at it.

Comment by Junodude

Horde side on my server gets 1-2 of these every week or so. It took me 71 weeks to get it, it dropped week 27, but I lost the roll to a guy with mimiron's head.

Comment by robspierre

indeed, you can always check youtube for inspiration, there are videos of enha shaman, retri pala, shadow priest and fury warrior :)

add1: ele shammy aswell
add2: combat rogue

Comment by 911755

How I long for this mount, why must it be so rare? May Ezra rest in peace.

Comment by Leat

66 kills now with this reserved on my paladin alone. Maybe some day. I think they should implement maybe if a single character kills a boss like this 100 times, it should drop, to avoid that small chance that I literally never get it.

~Cormier, Whisperwind US~

Comment by 553107

I got this awesome mount this night!

Ashes of Al'ar
I Farmed it with 2 friends for weeks now. Our setup was: Holy pally, Retri pally and a Fury Warrior.
I know many class's by know can solo this easily, but we did it the lazy way, mostly in 378/391 iLvL gear.
The only problem you will run into is in phase 4 where Kael is casting Mind Control.

If you are soloing him there will be no problem
If you 2 man him it will bug and he will reset.
When 3 manning him as i did you will have a hard time since you will be fighting your 2 team mates.

To avoid this simply just run out of sight from him, hide behind the statues and you will be fine. Me and the warrior was hiding and caught up on phase 5 to burst him down.

Hope you guys who really put an effort into this and love the mount as much as i do get it. It is by far the best looking and most exclusive mount in game atm. I don't mind sharing this mount with a lot others aslong it only are those who really appreciate this who gets it!

Good hunting

Chenox - Anachronos

Comment by Lanis

I got it last night running with a Lock buddy of mine, I'm BM with a Turtle he was Demo using a Fel Guard, we just burned through the adds and used the LoS trick for Kael'thas. I equipped the staff to prevent the stuns from the phoenix's and he stayed with his normal weapon. With both of our pets beating down on him on the other side of his statue, we made quick work of him. The only real mechanic you have to worry about is the Mind Control, but once he casts it, he can't cast it again for 30 seconds, that's your window to heal your pet and burn him down. If you're gonna go that method be prepared for pets to glitch and just not attack the boss. That happened to me about 3 or 4 times, but now I have it and I get to farm it until it drops for my buddy because I promised I would lol.

Comment by christianjlo

got it on my 16th attempt... the best mount in the game!

Comment by 867101

http://imageshack.us/f/12/asdadsaw.png/ - First run with my shaman, dosent even have skill on it so thats pretty awesome :)....

Comment by christianjlo

damn... again... I got it on my lock alt on first kill! so lucky!
now i have 2 Ashes of Al'Ar, one on my main drood and one on my alt lock! so nice :D

Comment by Kemaria

The mount dropped for me earlier this week - something I'd honestly never expected to be lucky enough to get. RIP Ezra Chatterton - I've been beyond excited to get this mount, but I haven't forgotten and will not forget the one who will forever be associated with it - Ephoenix, the first rider of the phoenix mount.

A quote from the tribute Ezra's father wrote:

My son, Ezra Phoenix Chatterton, Ephoenix the Hunter, Squirlanator the Mage, is gone. All we have left in this world are memories of him. Please remember that he was a good person, smart and clever but also very kind, that he loved to play World of Warcraft, that he loved rice pudding and fettucine alfredo, and that he went through so much pain and still found ways to smile all the way to the end. Please remember too the kindness of Blizzard, and the overwhelming love of the WoW community. Without these gifts, Ezra would still have found a way to be happy and optimistic, just not as easily.

Lok'tar ogar, brother Horde.

Comment by 924453

My 2nd time running the raid, and the mount drops! I lost but I was on my druid so I'm not too disappointed...for anyone with a rare mount (not sure which ones exactly will count), Blizzard stated they will most likely make them account-wide so don't despair :O

Comment by 653985

Just so. Damn. SHINY!

Comment by pancakemage

I have run Tempest Keep 4 times now, and this mount has dropped twice. O_o ? Winning.

Comment by 870144

Got mine like 5 minutes ago..... 21:20 30/12/2011

Comment by traviscurry89

Rosecow, where did you see this information?

Comment by Andurit

Its really so easy to 2 men this, u can go in many setups but i tell u 2 versions:
- 1th - Tank with dps gear and any kind of healer, i am doing it on my druid as a healer with one funny blood DK
- 2th Dps + Pala tank , farming this way on my hunter, going with pala healer and she taunt mobs on her and i just fully nuke, ofc need some skill of healer in this setup :))

Tactic:
Its really simple
1th PHASE
- Pull first and second on the wall behind u , far away from another and kill them ( its inportant to have them far away for 3th phase when they all respawn at once)
- Pull mage on oposit side of the room and kill him
- Kill last guy, i feel like its really not imporatant where:P

2th PHASE
- Weapon spawn, pop some CDs to kill them faster ( really not all of your CDs but some cna be usefull
- Priority is to kil healer first, then AOE easy (sorry but i dont remember name of that "healer" weapon but u see he cast heal :) "

3th PHASE
-imo most important one, and hardest as well, all of that "mini boss" spawn at once and they cc u as a hell, pop all possible cds one after one (not all together or they easy CC u and u waste all cds at once)
- priority of killing is here different if u are tank(meele dps) or range , if u are range u 1th go for mage then hunter, and so on...go warr as last one, he die really sloooowly :P. If u are meele dont even try to kill mage he just CC u more and u wipe there, stat with that 2 u pull to back wall after it go next , mage should be last
- if u dont kill them all in time boss come with them and its usualy wipe :)

4th PHASE
- Before fight check that u have statue on the left and right side, remember that always healer should stand at one side and boss at another or he will MC one of u for really long time, if u are range dps u can stay close to healer (not too close bot in range to heal u always..) and let boss stay at another side, if u are meele take care, healer have to heal u mainly with instant heals and reall inportant when he yell something like "Obey ......" make sure u are at oposit side, because it mean he try to MC

5th phase
U take him to half HP and he go to his spawn and fly to the air, healer should stay still behind statue and wait until he fly down and start attacking on u , then he come and heal ( or u can get MC again), after this its pieace of cake, just attack and kill him!

Comment by byakun

drop from raid (the eye) I got this mount after more than 27 try

Comment by 769489

this mount dropped twice in a row since monday for me.. first running it on my pally, and then running it 2 days later on my mage. both runs were started by myself and I lost both rolls, but I sure am happy to see the people who won, using the mount. ashes of alar drop is still very very low, took me 5 years to actually see it drop, although I have saw this twice this week. I believe it is still a random very low drop rate. Definitely lucky if you have this mount! Not only having it drop, but winning it in a roll aswell!

Comment by Paulosio

Got this on my hunter after a solo kill last night. In my achievements I have 28 kills of Kael'thas and I think about 10-15 of those were solo kills trying to farm this mount. I made a group of 8 (I didn't trust pugs to handle MC) about 3 months ago and the mount dropped but I lost the roll by 1... Ever since that happened i've been solo farming it.

Comment by rkokrox

Got this mount today on my first attempt (sorry). I was trying to solo it for 2 hours or so but the gravity bug made it really hard, so my friend logged on and we 2 manned it. The mount dropped and he gave it to me. We have a pretty lucky history of running instances and getting mounts/items 1st run. I got hand of rag on my first run at lvl 60 on my dk.

I feel extremely lucky since I only have a total of 4 mounts on this character, I really hope everyone trying to get it does eventually get it. The drop rate isn't that bad really. Oh and yes, I was yelling from excitement when it dropped.

Comment by 930570

Saw this drop today in a 5 man lvl 85 group. I was tied at 91 on the roll and thought I had a real chance of winning. Until some lucky butt rolled a 98. I couldn't believe it dropped. So sad I didn't win it. :(

Comment by 810315

I've been hunting this godly beast since TBC, and seen it drop twice ever (lucky). I was not going to let it get away from me the 2nd time. Now I ride this epic rainbow pigeon through the jealous crowds. Here is your best chance at getting this mount:

Pug it every week with a small group of casual / non-collector types (~5 85s). Unless you are the right class and skilled & geared enough to solo it, which is still a real pain as of this post and you know it.
Master loot if possible. Roll on the Ashes when they finally drop. You'll probably lose the roll like I did. Wait to distribute loot.
Bribe the winner with a large sum of gold. 50k is a good starting offer. Any noob or casual player is going to take 50kg. I paid 60k for mine and it felt like a steal. If you're too poor to bribe, then you just aren't ready for this and you should be spending your time making gold.
Loot/trade the Ashes and learn it like a boss (enjoy the feat of strength achiev). If you have a lucky stickler in your group who won't take a bribe, you're just out of luck. Don't ninja it unless you want to be the most reviled player on your server.

My cup runneth over, b&*!@#es!

Comment by exotice

am so lucky got that mount on my first run on TK on my warr the loot rule was group and since cata it is no longer 280% flying speed and if u have crusader aura on it will be 300% while u trained artisan riding 330% if u trained master riding i hope this was usefull saw 4 on my realm with this mount except me
Edit: this edit is for solors it is unsoloable so atleast get a druid so he can take dagger+ he use a melee ability to brake Mind control or get some 1 who have that mount and he should be a melee if u are lucky u will find some 1

Comment by Paulosio

Got mine on 7th of January:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/alonsus/Amaryliss/achievement#81

Then just 2 resets of boosting my brother later on the 21st of January he got it too:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/alonsus/Arlea/achievement#81

I fully expect to get marked down by all the bitter people who have been farming it for a year or more but I don't care :p I'm happy I never haveto go in there again.

Comment by 922150

Has anyone been soloing this as an 85 pally? Wondering if it's actually doable or not.

Comment by ryantruman

Shame how this mount is becoming more and more common. Where as i appreciate the fact that players who wouldnt have ever been able to kill kael should also get a chance at nice mounts and they definatley deserve to be able to, i don't think a mount as iconic as this one should have been degraded by letting it become so common :(

Comment by 940975

Probably no other item can/will beat this mount and the myth behind it ( although a sad one). And it is obviously a shame to see this emblematic piece of jewelry getting ninjaed. Blizz has an ethical obligation to intervene on this matter no doubt about it.

Rank up the comment if you agree to spread the word Regards.

Comment by Nikolaras98

Drops from Kael'thas and it's still obtainable in patch 4.3.2 . Dropped at me but lost it at rolls.Very unlucky !

Comment by 945897

Looking for a group to get this mount with. I will do raid every week till everybody gets the mount no matter how long it takes. I'm blazingember on burning legion so plz add me and mention tempest keep.

Comment by 950814

I will get it... :-)

Comment by 955510

Amazing for my Blood elf Mage. I can't wait to reserve it, I got a Guild who is willing to let me!

Comment by 958109

got mine on the 14th run

Comment by Keristrasza

Obtained 3/8/12 on Uldum, Alliance side. We did it with 5 people, 1 tank, 1 healer, and 4 dps. We did a fair /need roll, and I won it :) I am so excited it is beyond words. I have never seen this mount drop, and I am sure I will never see it again. I have not seen anyone else on my server with it, either. Best of luck to those who are farming, it is a beauty and a real attention-getter.

Comment by 963399

Got it first try :)

Comment by Ebolkaa

Ebolienka (Blood DK) level 85 (Burning Blade EU) soling Kaelthas Sunstrider... Mount dropped today, 23.3.2012! YEAH!

Comment by sindrelauris

Our guild farms Kael'thas Sunstrider for this every week, along with some other bosses that drop mounts (Sartharion 3D, Malygos, and Onyxia). This mount by far stands the test of time. It is simply gorgeous. No matter what you are doing at the time it's extremely difficult NOT to notice someone flying past on an Ashes of Al'ar with its colorful streamers, the trail of awesomeness. It by far is one of the biggest "look at me"! items ever put in the game. Between this and my Azure Drake, I'll be happy with my flying mounts for about forever. I am an enthusiastic mount collector and have a number of other very cool and/or prestigious mounts, but I always wind up coming back to, and taking flight on my phoenix. Just can't help it.

Even more awesome than the mount itself is the story of its first recipient, Ezra Chatterton (http://www.wowpedia.org/Ezra_Chatterton). If you haven't read about it I highly suggest you do. By far one of the greatest things Blizzard ever did. If you have any soul whatsoever it's nearly impossible to not be moved by his story. Every Lunar Festival, regardless of what else I do with the holiday, I always visit Elder Ezra Wheathoof in Thunder Bluff to pay respects and honor his memory.

Quite possibly the greatest mount ever created in the game.

Comment by centurius

I got it last night on my 10th KT kill in Tempest Keep! Good luck everyone!

Comment by Texxi

Ugh.

It's hopeless.

75 Kills now. And never ever saw it...

Anyone here to share the pain?

Comment by HoboBoxes

Just got mine on my 15th kill. First solo attempt. 4/9/2012.
I can get ashes but I can't get the White Hawkstrider from the 5 man after 149 kills. lol.

Comment by jonnydepths

Just decided to do it on a one off today, managed to solo everything cept Kael'thas so got DK tank friend to come help me kill him, Ashes dropped and only reason I got them was cos he didn't realise they'd dropped and passed on everything XD

Comment by chriz2fer

Confirmed:

You don't have to kill Al'ar (or any other bosses) for Ashes to drop. Got them yesterday on my 4th solo attempt, and I've never killed Al'ar

You also don't have to worry about the two trash mobs on the far sides in Kael's room; they won't aggro as long as you don't get close to them

Kael's mind control ignores the tank, and requires line of sight to affect anyone else. No need to ever suicide anybody

I have two accounts so to make the fight incredibly smoother I'd use my Blood DK for doing the actual kill, and my warlock to just wear the staff for cc-immunity and he stayed out of line of sight when applicable to avoid mind control. Occasionally toss dots on as well to speed up the kill. Easy

Comment by Deckven

I started to organize TK mount runs in June '11 and were doing this regularly till the beginning of February '12, so it is like 35+ runs in total. I usually propose 10k of gold for everyone in case it drops and motivate people with 300 of gold before enter the instance. I consider this as compensation for their time waste.

No mount drops. Am I pissed off? Ofc, no! I am quite lucky to be owner of two old legendary items and a bunch of rare mounts. If I will post a list of rare mounts I have with amount of attempts I did to get them I would be down voted to oblivion. So, I am not obsessed and not getting crazy every time I see old purples in loot instead Ashes. Hunting for this mount is just fun lottery for me. If it will drops I will have mount, if not - I save 20-30k of gold, so, it is win-win situation.

But there is another reason I write this post. What I really love about these runs is social experience. It is old fashioned grouping, like it was 3.3 and we chat and joke during the run, sharing good memories about old times in WoW. Sometimes people asked me how the hell I got so much gold? And I consult them about this. I'm quite proud that I encourage some people to play serious games at AH. Also there were really fun runs with Cata-kids. They pull Alar, thinking this is boss, which drops mount, they pull boss, thinking this is trash, they ask why we run raid with 3-4 people in raid.

My advice to all, who farm this mount with groups. Do not be angry in case of no drop, think about positive side - you might make friends in game as a side result. This side of the game was really vanished after 3.3, so do not loose your chance to socialize.

Comment by traviscurry89

I got this mount on 4/24/12 on Magtheridon 3 manned it with a tank heals and ranged dps I was super stoked when I got it as you can imagine. Thought of Ezra to. Strength and Honor my friend.

Comment by 770339

The mount drops from Kael'Thas Sunstrider. He's the last boss in Tempest keep: The Eye.
edit: Downrate? Hm..

Comment by 664366

now that we know that they are removing this mount in next expansion MoP, there will probably be a lot more people trying to get this before they remove it

submitted screenshot of GM conversation

Comment by ellil

This item really seems to bring out the extremes in people more than any other in the game. I have read and heard about UGLY fights and ninjas where entire servers have put a ninja on blast. But, despite this, I was able to experience the extreme good that this item can produce as well.

I had become friends with a death knight in my guild, and I had been teaching him WoW (he was very new to the game; he never had anyone to guide him. Quick learner and talented, but just needed a nudge in the right direction). I had been trying for weeks to solo Kael, and I wiped countless times on the weapons phase as a mage. I couldn't take a 5 man group into this place because I would be devastated if I lost the roll on the extreme chance it dropped. One day I decided what the heck, I'll try and two man it with my friend. If I lose the roll, at least it is to someone I respect and can I be genuinely happy for. He came along with me and we cleared out all 3 TK bosses leading to Kael just for fun and a bit of gold. I quickly went over the strategy we were going to use to my friend, and after a few attempts to learn the fight as a two man, we finally got it down.

I was able to finish off the final phase of the fight with my friend dead, and I killed Kael while surviving with 100 health and 0 mana (as close as it comes). After the epic end to the fight I went over and looted, and there it was. On some divine intervention, the ashes dropped. Even more shocking, after the initial freak out of seeing it drop, my friend passed on the ashes and gave it to me for helping him out in the game so much. He knew how much I wanted it, and he gave it to me as thanks. He had said he would give the mount to me before we went, but I didn't believe him at all because NO ONE passes on Ashes. I've seen how many people have said they would ninja this if they had the chance despite being honest players normally (I'd even made it painfully clear how rare this is to him).

After I mounted up on my ashes I offered him all my gold, to power level his alts, buy all his enchants, get any mount in the game for him, and basically anything he wanted in the game he could have it for the rest of time. He denied all of it and refused to take anything because he said he was paying ME back (I forced some some stuff on him though haha). I still massively disagree with him on who is paying back who in this situation (I still buy him things he needs). Out of all the ugly stories this mount dropping can produce, this is the last thing I would have ever expected to happen to me when I saw it drop.

Now, here's to farming Kael till the end of time to get my friend his Ashes!

Comment by DorianFyre

EDIT: IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THIS IS AN OLD GUIDE AND YOU PROBABLY DONT NEED TO FOLLOW THESE TACTICS ANYMORE. But, I'll keep the guide here for prosperity.

A moderately well geared Blood DK's / Monk's brief guide to soloing Kael'thas for Ashes of Al'ar. with tips on how other classes could do it. Brief enough to read as you do it! (but read it first anyway) NOTE this guide was made for Cata and is probably even easier now.

Also edit for interest, patch 5.1 December 6th 2012, I finally got Ashes!. I haven't been farming it every week but it has taken, estimate about 20 attempts? Guess I'm pretty lucky.

First, clear the whole raid. You don't need to kill the bosses but if you can't do them you probably can't do KT, to test yourselves on them. All the trash needs to die though.

Enter Kael's room, aggro, then run to the start of the instance. Put your back to a wall and wait for the warrior dude. He does knockbacks, don't get knocked out the instance, hence why you keep your back to a wall. I learned that the hard way.

As SOON as he dies, run to the back of the phoenix room, in the middle but not up the stairs. Kill the paladin dude.

Next, pelt it upstairs and go into either tunnel - doesn't matter but I usually go to the right. Kill the mage as soon as you see her, she should get to about the bottom of the corridor that leads to Kael's room by the time you get there. Be warned, her disorient can't be broken out of (except if you have staff but DKs can't get that).

Then, run up said corridor after you kill her, and kill the engineer dude. Kill him quick enough and you won't get his annoying stun debuff. You should now be right near Kael's room, a purple barrier thing stopping you getting in. That's fine.

Kael will now summon the weapons. You need to kill them in less than a minute or so but try not to blow CDs. You'll need them for the next bit. Pop a CD if you have trouble killing them before the next step but it'd be better if you didn't. NOTE: If you're doing this as a class that can equip staves, you mightaswell equip the Staff because it makes you immune to the disorient. You'll do less damage but it's the disorients that get you killed, so this way is much safer.

Kael ressurects all adds at once after about a minute and a half or two, with more than twice their original hp. This is the most crucial moment of the fight. As he starts saying he will do this through yell, time it so that by the time he's finished, you've finished casting Army of the Dead you can start nuking the closest guy to you; the Engineer. This is where you need your CDs. You need to get the engineer down (about 400k hp) before the mage at the end of the corridor can run up to you. Icebound Fortitude if you get affected by his debuff before he dies, as you really don't want to get stunned whilst you take on the mage, or are still taking down the engineer.

Kill him and then kill the mage as fast as you can ASAP. This is what I call the danger zone of the whole fight. If you don't kill the mage fast enough, you get disoriented for 9 seconds and you can't break out of it. Or if you arn't a DK you can just pick up the stave and you don't have to worry about the disorient at all, it just takes longer to kill them.. which isn't a problem. But otherwise this CC is unbreakable and the longer the mage is around, the smaller your chances of doing the fight.

Bare in mind you've got the paladin incoming. Tip: use Anti-Magic Shell to not get affected by the disorient and nuke her down with whatever you got left. Finishing the paladin and warrior should be easy enough. Fighting them all at once is virtually impossible and the sole reason you spread their corpses around the instance to start with. Unless you have the staff.

Finally Kael comes out. I run back up to the purple barrier blocking his door and fight him there. Interrupt his Fireball when you can and save anti-magic shell for his pyroblasts. Kael will STILL hurt like HELL, even as a lv70 raid boss. Don't underestimate him. Kill the phoenixes and phoenix eggs that spawn, and stay out of the glowing fire crap on the ground, basic stuff really. When he gets to about 50% hp, he runs back to his room and does some stuff. I use this time to heal up, get CDs back and so on.

(Alternatively, you can run near to the start of the instance and fight him in Al'ar's room. The reason why running back might be a good idea is, when he gets to 50% he will run all the way back to his room, spend about 30 seconds powering up, then run back to you. If you need more time to wait for CDs or anything, try it. I usually find it fine to just sit outside the purple door to his room, though.)

When he comes back he will have a new ability; Gravity Lapse. Basically the moment he uses that, just run away and hide behind a sticky-outy bit in the wall. In fact if you just run away far enough you should be fine but I hide behind it anyway just to make sure. He starts spamming Nether Beam, which reduces all stats by 10% and stacks 9 times. You can't beat Kael if you let that stack on you, so all you have to do is run away, so you don't get affected by it too much and can carry on smacking him once he stops. Then it's just rinse and repeat as he was with above 50% health, except the running away from Nether Beam part.

It took me a few tries to get it right, was about to quit before giving it one more shot which worked.
I tried again recently thinking it would take a few tries but can do it pretty much first attempt every time now.

Good luck. Sell TK boosts to people after you get the phoenix for extra monies. Boost people on RP realms who want T5 for super golds.

Comment by haideau

Just got this tonight. My friend and I started farming this back in 2008. We did it every week, proving that this drop rate is accurate or even lower. No idea how many time we did it.

At 80, we did a group of 5.

At 85, I'm a Priest and did it with another priest. Very easy to 2 man. I can even solo it, but it's a bit tricky and very close. After farming this for 4 years, both my friend and I have this mount. It shows that friendship can get you anything.

Comment by 635503

Account wide mounts have been confirmed and have been added to the beta. Now that mounts will be shared between all of my characters, I will be farming this mount on all five of my 85's, greatly increasing the chance of getting this bad boy.

Comment by hyperioussoe

With the new information coming out about Account-Wide Mounts in Mists of Pandaria, those of you who, like me, desperately want this on their main no longer have to fear running TK on an alt.

Where before, you had to run it in fear of seeing the mount drop while you were on an alt, now it doesn't matter. Race those toons to level-cap and start farming this guy ten times a week.

With any luck, the Phoenix will be yours in only a few months' time instead of ten billion years.

Comment by peepjynx

Bump this up - I was never a religious KT killer but this was my 7th attempt in 3 years on my DK and it dropped.

I'm on Lightning's Blade -US and this has dropped for at least 1 guildie every week and on my server - countless others.

I'm sure they increased the drop rate or we're just really lucky - but not a week goes by where at least 2 people get it....

Midnight on the other hand...... :(

Comment by Mcspazatron

Probably the most prestigious mount in the game besides Reins of the Raven Lord. Almost 5 years later and still barely anyone has it. TBC always had the coolest stuff.

Comment by 164958

This mount will be part of the Black Market Auction House in Mists of Pandaria.

Comment by 798731

In Mists of Pandaria, you will be able to purchase this mount from the Black Market Auction House. It will only be up for Auction for 24 hours...and it will not always be up for auction but will be more of a random posting by Mei Francis. I can't wait to see trade blow up when this Mount gets listed...and then see the chaos that will ensue from the bidders.

Comment by Hoodeddeath

From what ive been told im extremely lucky, i went into TK one time my very first time and had this mount drop to go along with my dumb luck of getting the white hawkstrider on my second time in that instance and the fiery warhorse after about maybe 10 boss kills.. still trying on my ravenlord tho.. XD good luck to everyone! hopefully everyone can get what they want if anything save up your gold and buy it in mop...? lol

Comment by 995389

Did Tempest Keep today. My 4th time I believe and I got it. Really love this mount.

Comment by 995588

i got one yesterday, first time in tempest keep, and i was the last to do a need rolll. ITS SO PRETTY ! (:

Comment by 971452

Just droppe for my 6th run i even have a screenshot here with the legendary wings :)
I was so happy that i got it. To be honest i did it with my friend who already have it so it was obvious that i will get it but not for the 6th run
The funny fact is that my friend has done only 16 runs and he saw 2 of these
Jaqenhqhar-ragnaros eu-allience side :)

Comment by dythe

Finally finished farming this for myself as well as my husband. All things considered, we were pretty darn lucky - the first mount dropped after about 20 weeks of farming. The second dropped on the 54th week.
We duo'd Kael'thas weekly as a Disc Priest and Blood DK (wearing DPS gear) and it only takes about 10 minutes once you get a solid strat for the fight (which may vary between groups - I've seen some just take the MC instead of LoSing it like we do).

The best advice I can give is don't give up. It's bound to drop eventually, but you absolutely may be looking at a year or more before it does. However, it's not a large time investment at all per run.

If you can't solo it, find a good friend who's willing to run with you weekly (hopefully one that already has the mount or will let you have it - or at least one that will keep running with you if it drops and they get it!). This fight can be solo'd by most classes, though duoing is definitely easier. Anything more than 3 people is overkill though, and severely cutting your chances of winning the mount if it drops.

Comment by darkness65

Just got both this and the hawkstrider in the same day only about 2 hours apart. Ashes dropped after 10 kills and the hawk strider after 15 kills. Soloed as an 85 hunter

Comment by Aquafurry

I went to TK on my healer, the characters first time, my third. This mount was mentioned by the raid leader several times and I knew that if it dropped my chances of winning were slim, due to a full raid group. After downing Kael, we were all shocked to see it drop, many of us had never seen it, including the raid leader. We all rolled for it, many of us praying to the RNG gods that we would get a high number. I won it, barely, with a +1 over the raid leader. People offered me all of their gold, but I really wanted the mount all to myself. The raid leader was bummed at the loss, but was happy for me. After a little talking, the raid leader and I became friends and I run with her on her TK attempts.

Happiest day ever =)

Comment by Darkdiamond

Just dropped after 22 runs, and got ninja'd. lol so know I know 22 weeks of running it at the least from now on.

Comment by Homeslice

It has an increased drop % during the midsummer fire festivel. Blizzard wont admit to this, but everyone knows it. I got mine last year during the festival, and so did a few other people on my realm. 4 people on my server have already gotten it this summer. Check the achievement date on somebody who has it and theres a good chance it will be june 21 - july 3.

I ninjaed mine after 7 kills. I have 2 computer monitors so I had my account on 1, and my friends alt on the other one. I made him the leader and changed it to master loot right before the boss was killed. Then I took the mount on his character and hearthed. I left my character in the group to look innocent, so I just complained like the rest of the group. Then I eventually hearthed out on my real toon and traded the mount to myself. Loot rules werent stated so the GMs cant take it from me, and nobody cares that I ninjaed it. People in top guilds on my server were even saying to me they would do the same thing. Happy Farming :)

Comment by donthavename

Got mine on my 7th try today had to pay 28k all well worth it tho :D

Comment by dexter98

36 runs on my ret pally, 34 runs on my warrior, 30 runs on my 1st Dk and 11 runs on my 2nd DK that's 111 runs and still no mount.

I made 2nd DK specifically to farm Ashes, it kills me a little every time I see people flying around with less than 10 kills.

Comment by pLcs

I just ran TK on my blood dk. I died the first time cause of the CC, it was 2 much for me. Second time I almost died but I made it to final phase. I downed the boss and to my surprise the mount dropped, it was so worth staying there. I almost cried :D. So 500g + mount yes please! Well im a happy camper when pandaria comes out since all my chars will have this mount. Just remember if soloing if you get through the disorientation part you could ez do it. Thamuz, blood dk @ Bloodhoof Europe

Comment by wouter1246

My ultimate wow goal is to get this mount!

Comment by THunter

Just dropped for the second week in a row whilst 3 manning it.

15th ever run, also dropped about 2 months ago.

So 3 drops in 15 runs, lucky? :D

Comment by 1017787

I just won this mount on my first try at TK, I ran it with 2 other people and won the Roll :)

Comment by Trukido

From what i've seen in PTR. Ashes of Al'ar will no longer be obtainable in MoP and become a feat of strength.

Comment by Frostician

Got it on my first run of TK. Really pissed that the horseman hasn't dropped from Kara yet though...

Comment by Ellinna

With a 2% drop chance, it's higher than just about any other mount drop in dungeons/raids. The Amani War Bear, of course, is 100% if you beat the timer.

Had it drop today and was shocked as any person would be.

Comment by Yeahmate

Just got it on my 9th run... I'm still shaking... Thank you RNG !

EDIT: Please read my other post about what happened to my Ashes, and a warning to all.

Comment by Cendrine

Got it with my hunter at 1st try,if you are a dk or hunter dont do anything but solo this boss.Good Luck everyone

Comment by Yeahmate

I just had this mount removed from my character after 2 days of obtaining it. The reason it was removed was because I ninja'd it. Just a warning to anyone who encounters the blessing of this mount to drop and decides to ninja loot it. I feel I can never recover from this, and I have no option but to just quit World of Warcraft. The fact that I will probably never see this mount drop again for another 100+ runs kills me inside. Please think before you decide to do something like steal this godly mount... Just a warning.

- Kelandon on Frostmourne.

Comment by 991302

Dropped for me today, August 14, 2012 on Area 52. I got offered 50k for it, and i couldn't as I don't have it on any other character. It's amazing. I'm so happy as i usually have terrible luck. Thanks you Blizzard and your randomness.

Comment by Teeleh

A friend and I set out in March of 2012 with taming A'lar in mind. (A druid, and a priest.) We had put this off for far too long, and were all out of excuses. We were prepared for the agonizing grind, as we needed to see not one, but two of her drop. Months passed as expected, with not even a glimmer of hope.

& Then it happened. On the 10th of July 2012, Kael'thas fell, and huddled beneath his refuse lay the smoldering ashes of A'lar.

We ecstatically eyed it a moment in disbelief before it registered that the mount was actually there before us. Happy to just see her drop, we rolled fair and square for it, and my friend won. We were then very hopeful, and pressed on.

Five weeks later it happened again, and on this day, August 14 2012, I became the newest and proudest owner of A'lar. I remember when this content was released many years ago..and so this mount means very much more to me than just an additional digit to add to the collection. It is legendary, and arguably one of the most attractive creatures in this game.

Thank-you RNG, as we were considerably luckier than most. & to the adventurers reading this I say to you, don't give up. Keep up the good work..and when you lay your hands on A'lar, make a point to tell the community! Because its not about gloating, its about providing hope to those still searching.

~Thanks

Comment by sTyLnK

I'm so happy to finally get this mount. This dropped my very first attempt many years ago and I lost the roll by one. To lose and be so close, we all know that feeling of losing out on something you really want. It's not a good feeling. But, I decided not to give up. After 70 attempts, it finally dropped again and I was lucky enough to WIN the roll by one. I know it's a comment that people won't care about, but after that many attempts to see it drop again and to finally win, no one is going to take this away from me. It's cliche, but very true. If you want it bad enough, you'll be rewarded one day. :)

Comment by Emypony

i just bought it today from the server and it looks awesome! good thing about other servers is that the loot at KT is not BUGGED! here it is:((
EDIT: why yu downvote :"(

Comment by 1023306

I got this Badass mount yesterday abou 3:00 PM,

Really glad I got it It's just VERY beautiful, However, I first did the instances nearby, The arcatraz, The Mechanar or However you spell them! >_< A few guildies and I decided too catch up people and do a firelands run, but we didn't find as many as we thought so we threw in ourselves in Tempest Keep instead! Jeez good we didn't find peeps! I was already there and I Summed the group with my mate Darión when he came, (I was already there because I had done the instances nearby) The group got inside We cleared thrash, Killed the Bird wich has the same model as Ashes of Al'ar. Then too the giant robot, We did not kill that third boss we just got too the main boss and wiped him out quickly, We were like 10 85s. However the mount was reserved for me and when the boss was dead and I looted him, I saw the mount laying there, I got like 500 heart-beats a second and the leader passed it over too me. Now I am riding on it and many people are saying gz :)

You also get a Feast of Strength Achievement from getting the mount. I am really happy that I got it, The chances were low and I "KNEW" It would not drop, I am still glad we never got enough people for the Firelands!

Beautiful Mount, I am Lucky having it! :)

Comment by johannhowitzer

I heard a rumor this was being removed as a drop in Pandaria - likely only a rumor, but if anyone gets this to drop in patch 5 or later, please post so we can confirm it still drops. If it doesn't, the rate is so low we'll probably never know for sure anyway though.

Comment by johannhowitzer

Rough cumulative chance for this mount to drop at least once over multiple attempts:

(Note: each individual attempt is still 2%, past failures do not increase your chances in the future.)

1 attempt: 2% drop
5 attempts: 10%
11 attempts: 20%
20 attempts: 33.3%
35 attempts: 50%
55 attempts: 66.6% (little over a year)
69 attempts: 75%
80 attempts: 80%
94 attempts: 85%
114 attempts: 90% (over two years)
148 attempts: 95%
228 attempts: 99% (four and a half years)

Happy farming.

Comment by Krusca

Whit the new sistem of sharing mount, if the raid is done every week with all 10 players there is a chance of about 20%!