Ashes of Al'ar

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Comment by flamer4021

Dropped from Kael'thas for Method-Sylvanas. World first drop on May 31, 2007!

Comment by 77612

Read about this mount of the web the first ever phoenix mount was given away to Ezra Chatterton, the young man who recently went to Blizzard's offices with the Make-A-Wish foundation. Ezra was given the first ever Phoenix mount in game for two reasons. First, it was probably the best gift that Blizzard could really give any gamer as far as one of the new Outland mounts. Netherdrakes are awesome, but a phoenix trumps that, if you ask me! And hey, who wouldn't want a mount that could move at 310% speed like the Swift Nether Drake arena award mount. Secondly, as Ezra's father Micah explained to me, the phoenix is an extremely important personal symbol for Ezra.

Comment by 77809

Blizzard's armory lists this having 1-2% droprate. At 2%, any guild will get 1 Phoenix per year on AVERAGE if they clear The Eye every week. When it drops, you have to be the ONE lucky person from the 25-man raid to actually get it (or have the most dkp). In the end it all comes down to luck. Some guilds will get several and some will never get one.

Phoenix' speed is 410% running speed (310% flying speed). With Crusader aura you will go at 492% running speed.

Phoenix doesn't have visible legs and it will always be flying. In "rest" state on ground it will still flap it's wings. When "running" on the ground you will go at regular epic mount speed. Otherwise phoenix performs like any other flying mount and same rules apply.

Phoenix leaves several trails from it's wings and tail. When you go at 492% speed you leave quite a long trail behind you. You can make some pretty looking trail figures with some fancy flying.

Phoenix mount is the Ferrari of WoW mounts and a guaranteed attention magnet. It's funny seeing people going past you in a hurry, do a full stop, perform a quick 180 degree turn and come look at you.

Edit: Removed some outdated info.

Comment by 77809

Male troll riding Phoenix.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/sutrik/phoenix/phoenix-troll.jpg

Female gnome riding Phoenix (me with transporter malfunction).
http://koti.mbnet.fi/sutrik/phoenix/phoenix-gnome1.jpg

Additional information and more screenshots:
http://sutrik.googlepages.com/ashesofal'ar

Comment by 76394

In the legend when a Phoenix dies it will burn to ashes and then reborn from them.

Well this is the "Ashes of Al´ar" so that must mean that you are flying on Al´ar himself!

Comment by 107711

Im curious to see what this looks like on the ground when you have the disgusting oozeling pet out. It leaves a green aura on your player sorta and turns your mount green. On my dreadstead it makes the flames look somewhat green.

Comment by 118675

Any shadowpriest have this mount?

Comment by 102481

i have seen other players with this mount before on Stormreaver, not hobbs though..... it is a 310% confirmed, but dosnt work on the ground.... oddly enough its normal(walking speed)......
its kinda odd though ive only seen 2 people with it, and after asking them about it, they said it droped nowhere near the instance. one said he even got one off a orc in the hellfire penusla!!!! my guess: the mount is one of those special drops, rarely appearing, or just put in for laughs by G gms

Comment by Benegesserit

Why is Blizzard rewarding skill for PvP but only giving raiders/PvEers a RNG for the same speed mount?

Comment by 120774

Did Blizz really give this mount to a sick kid in partnership with MAW founation? That was really thoughtful of them!

Comment by 170426

If they are discontinuing the Amani War Bear, does it mean that this one will be discontinued too?

Comment by 181837

Seen on Al'Akir
Owner: Horde - Dræberteddy

This beast... well, it's not a roguemount, since it leaves a pink trail where it has been, pretty nice

Comment by 168039

If they are discontinuing the Amani War Bear, does it mean that this one will be discontinued too?

No, they are not. It is going to be an accomplishment for Woltk, basically were going to have to 5 man tempest keep, hopefully its going to be nerfed a little :P

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=885

Comment by 32ndShadowwind

As of October 20th, 2008, Ezra Chatterton, Ephoenix, is no longer with us. I don't know at this time whether there are plans for an ingame memorial service, but will post updates on the Norgannon realm forums when and if. If you want to make a donation to his family or send them a message, their website is We will miss you, Ezra.

And from the ashes it was reborn...(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##

Comment by valioso

The phoenix summoned by Ashes of Al'ar has had his flame trails restored.
As The New patch notes in 3.0.3 on November 4th, 2008 Show, We can now get this mount again, Even though it is only a 1.6% drop rate, I believe we have gone after mounts with a lower % drop rate! I Hope to see a lot more of these in the game very soon! :D Yay Thanks blizzard!

Comment by violetta

the ashes have not been removed, they are still obtainable

Comment by kitschsous

As someone who only killed Kael a few times before the 3.0 nerf while BC was out, and then farmed him until Wrath launched, I was also under the impression that he would be 5-man-able when I took a solo trip into TK to remind myself of his and his adds HP pool.

For reference after 3.0 Kael himself has 2.1M and each of his adds have 180,000ish HP, the Mage has a bit less, 130,000 if I remember correctly.

Since then my guild (everyone in a mix of 10/25 man WotlK raid content gear) has killed him 3 times for fun/chance at this mount.

The main problem I see with this fight and people trying to do him with as few people as possible is the fact that he still mind controls, 2 people at a time, and I have yet to see it resist so I’m assuming even at 80 its unresistable. This wouldn’t be a problem if they were 70, but they are 80... and when ever this happens our Kael tank slips below 50% health while the healers are either trying to keep the rest of the raid up as our members with daggers try to dispel quickly or they themselves get MCed. Even with the dagger our fury warrior almost always tends to kill someone when he is MCed before he can be CCed/dispelled.

Our most successful attempt was with the following comp:
2 BM Hunters (1 With Dagger)
1 Warlock (Staff)
1 Mage (Staff)
2 Healing Priests - one DSC one Holy (Maces)
1 Feral Druid (Switching Staff/Dagger)
1 Prot Pally (Shield)
1 Fury Warrior (Dagger)
1 Ehn Shaman (Not sure what weapon he was using, if he was using one.)

Also keep in mind, you have to have a certain level of dagger skill for the dispel to work (350 I was told), so you cant just put daggers in the hands of everyone.

So 10 people. Even with this set up the MT almost always took the Pyro due to the fact so many people were either on MC dispels or phoenixes (Fortunately with the HP pool at 80 this isn’t a big problem) and 3 people died before the fight was over.

You also have to remember, if you get MCed, for example, lets say you only have one person in the raid with the staff. If they get MCed, your raid loses the staff buff, Kael disorients you WHILE people are still MCed and not only are you being killed by the people who are MCed but your tank lost aggro and he’s about to launch a 40k pyro at someone who isn’t a tank.

Another amusing thing that went wrong... One of our priests got MCed and 2 shot the other priest before someone with the dagger got over to them or they were CCed.

So... long story short at the moment its near to if not impossible to 5 man this boss. I would say a very well coordinated group could do him with less than 10, but 5 is a bit of a stretch.

Comment by 221789

Regular epic mount as opposed the flying epic mount is what he was talking about.

Comment by 323328

This is the best quality vid I could find of the mount - I def. need to convince my guild to try to farm one of these! AFAIK no-one on our server has one yet.

Click on High Quality ...one of the best vids of Ashes of Al'ar

Comment by 240138

Running in with no strat is a good way to wipe on Kael. That fight was never really a dps zerg, it is a technical fight and it is still more than capable of wiping a raid.

The point of running with less people in the raid is to have less people to roll on the mount against you. Should the mount drop, rolling against 8 other people gives you a much better chance of winning it vs. rolling against 24 other people.

Comment by 324646

R.I.P
Ezra Chatterton

Comment by furyelf

This dropped on Dragonblight US 2/15/09

As with the above, the master looter ninja'd the mount, and xfered off shortly thereafter.

Comment by 309534

-.- if you change your name then you're still gonna be on everyone's friend/ignore list, it changes it automatically... and plus the fact that you now have the freakin Phoenix... kinda hard to hide that. IMO, SS or it didn't happen :P

Comment by 320655

ezra was remembered during the lunar festival as TB's elder

Comment by 309391

IMO the best looking Mount in WoW

Comment by Tan976

This kids story is sooo sad. I hope hes having fun playing WoW in heaven. R.I.P. (heres his character on the armory http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Norgannon&n=Ephoenix)

Comment by joshua10

11 days after Ezra's tragic death (Halloween), I did Tempest Keep for the first time, I read earlier about his death the same day of this raid, so I found a raid for it and joined in high hopes of getting a pheonix of my own, after 3 hours of raiding, we finally killed Kael'Thas, and everyone in the entire raid including me was astonished to see the pheonix had actually dropped, unfortunately for the other people in the raid, our raid leader ninja'd the pheonix and left the group, anyways, R.I.P. Ezra

Comment by ShiroRX

Best mount in the game. Period.

Kid had good taste.

Comment by Modibybob

It seriously doesn't get any better than this. I'd rather have this mount than any proto drake.

Rest in quiet peace, dear Ezra.

Edit:....Ummm, why am I being downrated?

Comment by 351416

No. It's a very low 1-2% drop chance from Kael'Thas Sunstrider in The Eye of Tempest Keep and you can only kill him once a week anyway so it will still be rare forever.

At least I think you can only kill him once a week. I'm not sure how the reset works on raids still.

Comment by Malinq

Still only once per week

Comment by Pachirisuneytor

Anyone on the raid can need on it even if they don't have 300 riding skill.

Comment by Lorre

A very nice gm gave me some answers.

- The Mount still drops.
- The Mount can drop if u skip all other 3 bosses & just kill kael.
- People who dont have 300 riding, can roll & win the mount.

Hope this helps

Comment by 370924

Okay wowhead is stating that the ashes of alars drop rate is 1.7% so this is actually less rare than the barons mount or even the zulian tiger? man i'd love to have one of them it'd be so cool i love mounts :L

Comment by 374030

After having lost it twice ( to two level 79 ret paladins, who both ironically had NO flying skill whatsoever, and who both also had the same DPS... 320!); on both occasions me rolling 98 and the two culprits rolling 100, I can safely say that:

A) Random loot is random (Along with rolls...) and
B) That ANYONE can roll AND win this mount, irrespective of level, riding skill, mother's social security number, etc..!

May I also add that this is an extremely rare, 310% flying mount; hence the stringent instance reset timer and the actual drop chance.

I'm in no way bitter, I tell you, not at all!

Comment by 352701

If I get a group of 80s ranging from 10-25 with gear of any level and maby a few 77+, we get by without fighting the other bosses as from what I read is possible to do, how long would it take to do a run of TK the eye just killing kal'thas to go faster to get the mount.

Comment by 140579

This mount still drops. I never got the opportunity to down Kael'thas during Burning Crusade, but I was invited on a mount run by an in-game friend of mine to tank the encounter and farm the mount. Well, much to our surprise the mount dropped! This was our first attempt, and after all the rolls were done I won it with a 99. I am currently the only Death Knight on the server with the mount, and the first Hordie to obtain it on my server. You can armory "Lechter" on "Ysondre" server.

It looks incredible, and is faster than flightpath mounts with On A Pale Horse to up the speed past 310%. However, whenever you do Kael'thas I highly recommend you get people who know how to loot the legendary weapons and use them to keep the raid from wiping. Poor Kael, if he didn't drop bad ass mounts people would stop farming him.

Comment by 104074

Funny how with all those awsome dragons which we have now, this mount remains the coolest)

Comment by 392114

Suggestion:

Do this with friends, so they dont leave when you change to master looter.

Comment by Bohrizan

Changing to Master Looter when he's at 5% or so works too. ;P

Comment by 317405

If I were Ezra, wherever he is now, i'd still be showing off this mount. Thing is awesome. :3

rip Ezra

Comment by 204972

Be warned: if you ever win this mount, you'll get a lot of whispers from people who ask if you're dying from cancer.

Comment by Dustfire

Minimum Recommended Kael'thas Group at 80

3 Melee - Break Mind-Control
1 Ranged - Tank for Woman Boss
2 Healers
1 Tank

Comment by 461915

these photos may be perhaps the only lucky people in the game with it....some may be a private server, but honestly, getting this mount makes you stick out of the crowd so much...also, some people have quit wow because they either didnt get it or lost the roll by 1

Comment by 461915

everyone check the armory using this link....and it will show chattertons character, i thought he sadly passed away about a year ago, but it says he got the ashes of alar on the 24th (day) - 8 (month) - 2009!
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Norgannon&cn=Ephoenix&gn=Thirty+Second+Fleet

Comment by 464167

http://www.ezrachatterton.org/

Comment by 493530

Funny thing is that, the kid who's account you listed.. who's suppose to be dead... it was last updated on 11/10/09! he supposedly died over a year ago. Looks like someone benefited from his death.

Comment by 403619

I've never seen this mount, and it's drop rate is horrendous with a 7-day lockout.
Good luck getting this, it could take years but doing a 70-instance once a week isn't too bad. Good luck to anyone who tries.

Me? I'll go for the time-lost proto-drake.

Comment by fragon900

That's just terribly sad...and I saw a comment a few days ago saying "What a waste of a perfectly good mount." Not sure if it's still here or not but boy, words can not explain how much of an a$$ you are for saying that.

Comment by 513000

How come TBC has much more impressive ^&*! than WotLK? I mean, much more legendaries, and even artifacts

Comment by PatchEu

Still by far the best mount in the game. It's very fast, insanely cool and colourful, and unique. Just incredible.

Comment by 434055

This mount would look so hawt with the Phoenix Hatchling. I'm burning up just thinking about it :P. Add a fire mage and I think my head would explode!

Comment by 314922

Most awesome mount ever. Been seting up some farmruns for it, but havent had any luck yet. I'd give so frikken much for this mount. Got 106 mounts atm, but id easily trade all of them for this1 if i could. Think im gonna get a stroke if i ever see it drop.

Some info:
Kael is not that hard with about 7 players. Its ezzzzmode with 10-15.

Setup:
2 tanks (1 must be warr / pala).
1 healer
1-2 melee dps (rogue perfered)
a few ranged dps

It probably is tons of guides of how u can do this, so ill just shoot in a short version one here.

Kill whoever of the minibosses that comes to u. They have very low hp, and are down in few secs. Then nuke down the weapons, 1 tank (the pala / warr) picks up the shield, so he can use the "Use" when Kael casts pyroblast. The rogue / rogues / melee dps picks up the dagger, so u can break the MC. 1 caster picks up the staff for its "use". Then u set up a kill-order for the minibosses and down them. Then u start with Kael. As long as the tank with the shield uses it whenever a pyro is coming, this is easy. Kill the phoenix (and its egg), and bring Kael down.

Good luck with ur mountfarming.

(Sorry for all spelling errors etc.)

Comment by 462946

How in the World of Warcraft can someone be so cold...I mean don't they get that his life was cut way way short so yea I'm glad they helped him out! And all others who are given a unfair hand in life...

Comment by Direbear24

this is a very beautiful mount

Comment by 543619

I prefer my Netherdrake...But thats me. This thing looks like it belongs in a Vegas showroom if i am brutally honest, neon pidgeon ftw?

Comment by 534473

If you want to stop this mount being ninja'ed, do NOT let the raid leader turn on master looting. There's no point - if you're going to do normal rolling, you might as well let everyone need on it and the true winner will get it. Why use master looting and risk the possibility of a ninja? Of course, if you're doing this with a ton of 70's who don't want their gear ninja'ed then fair enough, but otherwise, might as well not risk it.

Assuming a 2%ish drop rate, the odds of you ever winning this are very, very, very slim indeed. If you run this every single week with 10 people for nearly 2 years (100 weeks) then your odds of seeing it drop once are approximately 86.7% and your odds of actually winning it are 8.67%. A less than 10% chance of you winning something once every 2 years? That's pretty painful. Yep. I don't think you're going to see many of these in your time.

Comment by Keeyla

Just a bit of a silly warning for some of you guys who're farming this: the mount may actually start to hurt your eyes after a while, that's how neon it is; so take that into consideration if you have sensitive eyes.

Comment by 571275

Chinese Wow servers have been stuck at level 70...when I am in Shat I usually see about 5 Ally with this mount (I am horde) and about 3 on the Horde Side. A lot of Chinese players go to TK just to farm this mount. Usually they have a gold team that goes.. if the mount drops usually 35,000 G. I been just farming gold lately so I can get a chance to buy this beautiful mount!

Comment by 339283

If people are asking whether you can 5-man it with the current state of the game, the answer is "Yes, you can". Here's how we did it (Keep in mind, we were all mostly 277 geared).

Group comp was:

Prot Paladin
MM Hunter
Mut Rogue
Arcane Mage
Disc Priest

To make it a little more simpler, we used Kings and Gift of the Wild Drums from LW.

Here's how it happened:

Phase 1:

Adds come out one at a time. Try to have all the adds stacked with the exception of Grand Astromancer Capernian, in which the MM Hunter dragged her to the back of the room to die. This helps the Prot Paladin pick up the adds easier and keep them grouped up come Phase 3.

Phase 2:

Weapon phase. We had the Hunter and Rogue both pick up the dagger for MC control, Mage pick up the staff for immunity toward disorient and fears. Shield was not needed for the tank since Ardent Defender will save him from Kael's Pyroblast.

Phase 3:

Mage and Hunter both zerged Capernian as fast as they could, Rogue was on melee adds which the Pally was tanking. Both ranged DPS assisted and single targeted down the rest of the adds quickly once Capernian was dead. Watch out for Telonicus' bombs as they still hurt quite a bit.

Phase 4:

Hunter and Rogue were on dispel duty for MC. If both were MC'd, the other raid members used defensive CDs until the MC was up. Phoenix spawns are inevitable, so kill those off quickly including the egg. As stated above, Ardent Defender saved the tank from Pyroblast unless you could zerg the shield down quick enough and interrupt it. Keep doing this until Phase 5.

Phase 5:

Nothing really noteworthy here. Keep doing your normal routines until Kael dies, and hope for a phoenix mount!

We did this successfully so far 3 times without a mount drop, but we have hope it'll drop eventually. The trash is probably the most annoying thing 5-manning this raid. Yeah, you can bring 10 people and blow through this boss with relative ease, but 5-manning it, especially with heroic ICC gear gives you much better odds at winning the mount if it drops, considering you're only running it with 5 people versus 10 or more.

Good luck with your phoenix runs!

Comment by sl0Puffman

Winning this mount legitimately is like winning the lottery. Except instead of a million bucks, you get a shiny, flamboyant orange and pink bird that makes you the talk of the town whenever you mount up. You'll stick out like a sore thumb and attract whispers like ants to a picnic.

Comment by eternalshogunx

This is a beautiful mount, anyone reading my question in the phoenix npc's forum on who he drops from, please disregard, found this mount's page,now I know where he drops from. Thanks again. Can't wait to get him!

Comment by Silverwind

We're 3-manning him for the phoenix currently. It's quite a bit of a challenge with current gear levels. The key to it is a warrior tank using the dagger to dispel mind controls.

With only one damage dealer the forced transitions after 2/3min for phase 2/3 can be a bit of a problem. The synergy of a warrior tank using the dagger to get +25% magic damage on the mobs in p3 helps if you're using a magic damage dealer.

I imagine it could be possible 2-manning it with a tank and a healer if both can output enough damage to get past phase 3 with maybe 1-2 mobs up.

Here's a video of one of our kills.

Comment by 654483

Hey guys, I just got this mount today, it was a long grind but I finally got it and I couldn't be happier. It took me 28 kills and I just wanted to share a couple strategies for getting this mount. Before I begin I just want to say that all of these strategies involve having a large amount of gold and I'm sorry about that, but there's no way you're going to get this mount unless you're either extremely lucky, rich, or a ninja.

The first strategy I tried was getting a group of people together to farm it weekly, and using group loot and trying to bribe the winner. I tried this for about 7 weeks and decided that it was a bad idea, as not many people would give this mount up for anything, even if I was offering them 80k.

My second strategy was to get set up 10 man pugs weekly and pay everyone 500g when kael died, no matter the drops. This worked for several weeks, but my pugs ended up failing because of bad tanks (becasue the adds aren't tauntable) or bad heals. This would cost you about 5k a week, however it still takes quit a bit of effort on your part.

My final (and successful) strategy was 1st of all to send a mail in game to the top 20 guilds on my server (using wowprogress.com) and asking them if they would be interested in running me through tempest keep every week, and I would either pay them 5k per run, or 200k when the mount dropped. When the mount dropped the GM would use master loot, loot the mount to himself, then trade the mount with me in the trade window for 200k. I messaged about 10 guilds and I got 2 guilds interested, but one guild ended up changing their mind. So the guild ended up running me for 10 more weeks and it dropped. I recieved my mount, their guild recieved 200k (which they split among the raiders, there was 10, so they got 20k each).

Again, I'm just posting these as suggestions as to how to get this mount and how I did it. Sorry if you didn't find this helpful and good luck on your hunt :)

Comment by agentex50

Thank you my intelligent fellow wowhead users! About time a thread is completely void of rude little brats bragging about how they rolled a 100 or how they ninja'd it. As for the mount, I will simply say yes it is very rare and yes if you catch someone thieving it by all means ensure they have a very miserable WoW experience. Still haven't gotten it myself but i congratulate anyone who has gotten it that doesn't fall into the previous mentioned categories. Happy hunting!

Comment by Chromell

I'd change the last sentence in the description to "This is a f*&!ing sweet mount."

Comment by Meggie

Maybe the only shiny 310% mount. The rest is dead, rotten or pink.

Comment by 708534

Soloed at lvl 85... sweeeeeeeeet

Epic music to boot! Love the one starting shortly before 7 min. /goosbumps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atATvXfxwPU

Comment by Tassadaru

After using it in Patch 4.0.3a (yesterday more exactly), I've found that Al'ar now glides. Blizzard must have worked on the new model aswell, since the introduction of the Dark Phoenix, and they both probably glide ('till now it was just wings flapping continuously)

Comment by Avasian

Atm this mount is slightly bugged. It got a graphical glitch so the tail is somehow wrongly connected to the rest of the body and when its wings are spreaded wide, pink colour gradually turns off. Quite disappointing if you ask me but i guess they will fix it in the next patch.

EDIT: Bugs fixed in 4.0.6

Comment by pl4kkie

What you also can do, is offering the player who won it some g's for the bee's. I bought my ashes for about 24k from the player who won it. Because it was an alt and he wanted on his main xD. I ran Tk 3 or 4 times max before i seen it drop the first time. It is rly worth the money imo since i still love this mount

Najietô - Stormreaver horde

Comment by icicle00

Why does the phoenix sometimes have additional bright white glow on its wings and tail?

look at screen shot #2 to see what i mean, and screen shot #25 shows one with the extra glow and one without it.

How do u get it to do that or is it random?

Comment by 760297

The feeling of winning this over 24 other people back in the BC days, must have been better than winning the lottery.

I feel sorry for whoever has this mount, because they'll never be able to quit WoW for good.

Comment by hpdark

Started playing wow in BC, saw a horde rogue with it on our server and wanted it ever since. Killed kael a couple times before achievements came out... No luck.
Started farming this over the past 4 months. At 80 I would bring 8 people, 1 tank, 2 healers, and 5 dps... No luck
At 85 I tried to solo (warlock) won't work due to kael's mechanics with a pet out. He mind controls me, I kill my pet and he resets. So I've been 5 manning it every week. 1 tank, 1 healer, 3 dps, cakewalk.
15 kills and it finally drops, I almost crapped myself seeing it, I was prepared to go for years without ever seeing it. I've been saving 20k to bribe the winner each week. Had 40k on me and if they turned it down I was prepared to offer it all.
Won the roll by 1 with an 84. And I couldn't be happier. I would've died if I saw it drop and didn't win. Many weeks of farming finally paid off.
Keep at it and best of luck. You will never see it drop if you don't try, so good luck farming.

Comment by 486872

What's worse then never seeing the Ashes drop? Seeing them drop and losing.

I ran this place with 14 idiots a little before cata, thinking the ashes couldn't possibly drop, but of course they did. Some tauren druid that had never been to TK, didn't know who Kael'thas was, or what the Ashes looked like won and proceeded to immediately learn them. Only to complain, once he was mounted, that he didn't get free 310% flying like he thought he would (only reason he wanted the mount) and how disappointed he was because the mount looked "kweer" compared to a badass dragon...

He did OS 10 3D the same day and won the black drake which he's been riding around instead of the Ashes ever since...

My blood still boils to this day, so the lesson is, if you're going to run this and actually care about the mount, then make sure you're can't possibly lose or you'll be very sorry for a very long time, mark my words. Seeing the Ashes drop is a miracle and usually miracles don't happen twice.(##RESPBREAK##)2060##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Comment by 434941

Just got my Ashes of Al'ar Mount yesturday and it makes me sad and happy, sad because Ezra is no longer with us and happy because his dream will be with us for decades RIP Ezra xxx

Lucilla lvl 85 EU-Bloodhoof

Comment by kiowa

I disagree, I don't believe someone that doesn't have the proper flight requirement for any rare flying mount should be able to get it for a number of reasons. The most important one is that there are thousands of players that have been farming said mount for a long time an can use the mount upon recieving it. Letting someone that more than likely has only looked or tried for this mount here and there and that cannot use it is an insult to those who have put in the time and research and has the required skill.

Comment by 364103

So much hate from people, down rating comments from the fortunate few that have obtained this rare of rare drops.

Regardless of when you got this mount it's still very noteworthy seeing as the drop rate is very low, I know there's still some servers that don't have one at all, and that's 4 years after release. Higher population servers are seeing more simply due to more people going in to farm it.

RNG is RNG, if the dice gods decide to grace you with a drop, weather you get it or not, you should consider yourself fortunate to at least SEE it and be afforded the opportunity to shoot the dice.

I've seen it twice, once in TBC on the last BT attunement run we did, and just a few days ago. I told stories of how i'd been in the raid when it dropped and that it was paid for in DKP dearly. The second time it was all the luck of the dice.

And i've noticed from sitting on it that the tells i get are a fair mix between congratulatory, to straight hate tells, and those who don't even know where it comes from.

I've got no problem passing the information on since I don't hate on anyone that has it. Even if the drop has been increased, which i sincerely doubt, it's still a very very special mount.

Comment by 538990

@melinia,

It is NOT easy to solo. The trash takes about half an hour to clear, and then the KT fight probably just as long, if you do it your first shot. So that's 1 hour. I myself have not been able to solo it as a ret paladin, it's REALLY hard. I can kill the weapons fast enough, but don't have enough time/mana to heal up to full before the adds res, and I have to blow my CDs in order to kill the weapons fast enough, leaving me with no burst damage to burn down the mage. The engineer catches up to me first, and I die. I am iLvl 355 and used a vicious crit trinket for the removal of a conflagration.

So no, it is not easy to solo for most classes. Only locks, DKs and hunters have proven is POSSIBLE, let alone easy. I have not seen any paladins or warriors confirmed having done it yet, which is surprising. At this point, for me I think it's just a gear thing. Maybe when 4.2 rolls around and I get full 396 or whatever the item level there will be, it will be easier. Maybe I should try it as prot, although I don't think that would be enough damage.

Comment by blackbone

Even though it's been available for a few years now, I still rarely see more than 1-2 players actually riding this pet.

Kael is probably soloable for some classes (deathknight / paladin), but 2 manning him or even 3 manning him is a huge risk due to his mindcontrols.

If you make a balanced 5 man group you should be fine though.
It's a lot faster than soloing as well.

Comment by 626791

You really have to love rare drops like these.

When you run the raid and your on the boss you heart is pumping faster and faster as his health goes down. You are checking everything to see if it is going to work. He dies. You run up and your hand is shaking when clicking the loot button. You see it. Your heart drops to the bottom of your feat. You can't believe your eye.

this is why i love wow

Comment by 656191

Just got this beauty today! Made a 5-man group for it with the mount reserved for me for 50k. I never thought it would drop, since i had already seen it once and some random guy who had never been to TK won it and didn't care about it at all. Since then all the runs i do are with the mount reserved. As a friend told me once, gold comes and goes, but this mount stays! I guess some few people are lucky enough to see it drop twice, so for all of you mount collectors like me, don't give up!

Comment by Willemstyle

I've obtained the mount yesterday, and I can't explain in words how happy I am.
Here the steps I took to hunt for the mount:

Ask your guild to make you eligible to create guild events. I got promoted in my guild, so I created the guild events on my own.
Create a Tempest Keep raid for every week, and make it available for everyone >70 to sign up and participate.
Each time I took the leadership for the raid, and assigned master looter to myself. My guild was okay with it, because they trust me, and I was the one creating and leading each raid.
I did the raid for a total of 8 times. 8th time, the mount dropped (I was lucky)
We all rolled for the mount, and a guildmate won the roll
I asked the following to my guildmate: "Can I buy the mount for 35000 gold? Yes or No"
My guildie answered: "You can have it for 35k"
I opened the trade window, gave her 35000g, and looted the mount to myself.

This way, it doesn't matter how much people participate the raid. Just offer a enormous sum of money to the winner of the mount.

(If he wanted the mount instead, I would have give him the mount. I'm not a ninja)

Some calculation on win chance:
If I can calculate it roughly, and if I base it on a 5-man run each week:

- 1.4% drop chance / 5 man = 0.28% win chance per 1 raid.
- 100% - 0.28% win chance = 99.72% lose chance per 1 raid.

The calculation on total win chance is:
- (1-((99.72%)^X))*100
Wherein X = the amount of attempts

Scenario:
- 5 man raid
- Every week 1 attempt
- Everyone rolls need on a fair roll for the mount

Amount of attempts - Total chance for winning the mount:
1 - 0.28%
2 - 0.55%
3 - 0.83%
4 - 1.11% (one month)
5 - 1.39%
26 - 7.03% (a half year)
52 - 13.56% (1 year)
104 - 25.29% (2 years)
260 - 51.76% (5 years)
520 - 76.73% (10 years)
1040 - 94.58% (20 years)

Comment by 832230

The drop rate of this mount has not been increased or decreased.
I made a ticket myself because in 2 weeks I happened to see it drops twice and I got it both times. (Paid the winner)
Screenshot of the GM conversation:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/ashesj.jpg/
In case you do not believe me. Im on Hellfire EU in the guild Netherstorm. Character names: Rémus and Remusz
Have fun farming this mount!
P.S.: Sorry Poupi! <3

Comment by mindalover13

To all folks who own this mount, I envy you so.

Comment by citrique

The only annoying thing about having this mount is how other people constantly go, "oh the drop rate must have increased" when they see you on it, as though saying so is somehow going to diminish your having gotten it.

There's still only six hordeside on my server (Kel'thuzad US) and it took me 36 kills to get mine.

Comment by 847809

Ok Im sick of this! If you kill it 100 times, it doesn't mean the mount will drop, the % doesn't change no matter how many times you kill him.

Watch how downrated this gets.(##RESPBREAK##)2060##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Comment by kaeleb

The topic of chance drop is always a sticky subject. The key is in the wording and what you mean by 'chance'. The possibility of a drop will always remain constant. The probability will increase the more attempts/roll you get on an item.

So in essence the majority of previous posters are correct but only in terms of how they describe their 'chance' of getting the drop.

Comment by Elendill

For some weeks now, I solo Kael'Thas as a moonkin, you need some stuff, I would say that a 359 ilvl helps a lot to manage your mana bar and reduce the length of the 4th phase.

I use a Lunar Shower spec, with 2 points in Furor to help my mana regen, you would probably get rid of it once you managed to do it a couple of times.
Also, overwrite your Glyph of Wrath with the Glyph of Starsurge.

Be sure :

to have 3-4 free slots at least in your bags before engaging KT.
to bind on your bars your weapon (main hand at least), Cosmic Infuser and Staff of Disintegration
to use your innervate as soon as you are at 55% of your mana bar.

Trashs :

First you need to clean all trashs until Al'ar (dragonhawks patrolling included)
Go right (or left, your choice)
Wait before turning left (or right) to Kael'Thas, you must kill trash mobs just before Solarian (Void Reaver) room entrance, then go clean the way to Kael'Thas (you don't need to clean all trash packs in KT room, just then one at your right (or left) when you get in

P1 :

Thaladred : Pull the boss, then go at TK entrance, right in the corner, you can wait for him before Al'ar room to dot him (just one line of dot, overwise you could kill him), finish him in the corner, be careful with his bump, when you go in the corner, be sure that you're not too close from him before.

Sanguinar : He will come by the opposite side you cleaned, use the same tactic, like Thaladred, be sure his fear won't throw you out of the instance, kill him at the same place.

Capernian : Sprint (Dash + Stampeding Roar) to the side you cleaned, and go just before KT room, in the corridor before the "laser" door, wait for her, LB*3 + Rejuv, dot her before she conflagrates you, kill her, no difficulty there.

Telonicus : Go back to al'ar room, use the line of sight to make him get out of the corridor, one line of dot, wait for 20 seconds left on Remote Toy to dot him again, when he's dead, go at the corner between the main corridor leading to solarian and the one leading to Kael'Thas.

P2 :

The legendary weapons are not hard to kill as a moonkin, just stay where you are (described above), plant mushrooms (if you see you won't be in solar for this phase, keep your starfall up for this, just be in Eclipse state), make them detonate when they're all there, thorns, dot them all, starfall, barkskin and lb*3 + rejuv, finish them, loot Cosmic Infuser and Staff of Disintegration, then go to Capernian corpse.

P3 :

Capernian : Put hots on you with the mace, switch to the staff, and use it to get the cc-immunity buff (all this before she spawns), kill her, no difficulties here.
Telonicus : He will come 4-5 seconds after she died, if you did it time, deal with him the same way you did with Capernian.
Sanguinar : Coming 5-8 seconds after Telonicus's death, get away from the laser door to prevent fear problems, kill him.
Thaladred : He will come 10 seconds after Sanguinar's death, spam your moonfire to kill him, while you go toward the place you were to kill the weapons

P4 :

That's the hard part of the fight, wait for Kael'thas, hot yourself with the mace, when you see him from the bottom of the corridor, equip your staff and get the buff, before he comes to you, show yourself and dot him, get out of los using the corner to interrupt his fireballs.
When he reaches you, use the other side of the corner and repeat.

Things you will have to manage :

Arcane Disruption : he should do it as soon as he's close from you in the above-described situation, be sure to have the staff buff on you at this moment. When he did it, equip the mace and lb*3 + rejuv on you, the buff has a 30-second duration, so you'll still have it for the pyroblast, switch back to the staff for the next Arcane Disruption
Pyroblast : You should have the fire resistance buff from the mace, check anyway, or it will get you to 15~20% life, and it's really hard to come back at top life in this fight (except without Tranquillity), be in moonkin form for the damage reduction, he will probably do the Arcane Disruption just after the Pyroblast
Phoenix : Dot them when they show up, keep your living stars proc (or your starsurge at least) and your starfall for the egg's spawn, kill it fast, don't let them revive, or you could be easily submerged.

You'll probably need some time to manage this phase, don't forget to use your innervate on cooldown during this phase. You'll mainly bring him down to 50% while moving from place to place, if he just did his pyroblast and is under 60%, heal yourself with the mace until he does his arcane disruption, equip your "cataclysm" main hand, use all your cooldowns and kill him, don't care about phoenix spawns, you'll kill the during the transition.

Transition & P5 :

Burn him down while he goes to the middle of his room for the event, don't go through laser door, come back then to the weapons' place. Countdown about 15s after his last emote (while he goes up and the wall breaks apart) and equip the immunity staff. This phase is really simple, kill the phoenix when you are under the effect of Gravity Lapse, use line of sight to cancel his casts, repeat and rinse, if you manage to have at least 30-40% of your mana bar at the beginning of the 5th phase, it's almost won, just be sure to not be touched by the floating dark spheres while you're in the air, or you won't hold the whole p5.

I hope this guide will help some of you guys, it's far easier to do it as a feral, but hey, where would be the fun ? :p

Comment by Kraaimoar

Mayhaps a bit of a useless comment but...

In Icecrown the flames coming from Al'ar's trail turn fel green.
Seems to be a lighting glitch but it looks pretty neat!

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Wyrmrest Accord - Horde
15 runs

Keep trying folks! Run with a small group of people you know will appreciate it.
Avoid straight up PuG's as with any other mount! Avoid horrors stories!

Comment by forthshadow

I have been soloing this as a Shadow Priest off and on since Cata dropped. Got it last night on my 25 run.

Spec/Glyphs Used: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bfMoZZGrGdMkrd0ro:smMMRV

Now for my strat for soloing Kael.

Begin by clearing all trash up to Kael's room, including all the trash in Alar's room and the hallway leading to Voidreaver.

Start the fight and immediately running the the entrance of the Instance during the RP speech, if you are slow you will be locked inside the room and its over.

Kill both Thaladred and Sanguinar while you are at the entrance. Keep your back to the wall wile fighting Thaladred and apply Fear Ward when Sanguinar shows up to avoid getting thrown out of the instance.

Once they are dead head to Alar's room, Kill Capernian near the ramp on the right side of the room. Once she is dead, quickly head over to Void Reaver's hallway so Telonicus comes down the way you cleared the trash.

Kill Telonicus near the enterence to Void Reaver's Room.

Once the Advisers are dead the Weapons will spawn, Fight them in the Hall leading upto Kael's room, As soon as they are in range, Sick your Shadowfiend on the Shield and Fade off the agro. Use those 10 seconds to Burn down the Shield as fast as possible as it interrupts spell casting and you will die. Once the shield is dead Kill off Mace next then multi dot the the rest of the weapons down.

Make sure to Pick up both the Mace and the Staff as they are needed during the fight with Kael.

When then Weapons die, or after 2 min, The advisers will all wake up, Since you have spread them out all over he instance they should come at you one by one, simply kill them in the 30 seconds or so before the next one arives, You will need to have the Staff Equiped During your fight with Telonicus and Capernian. Make sure to recast Fear Ward when Sanguinar shows up. Simply kite Thaladred, around untill all of your Cooldowns are up or untill Kael spawns.

Just before Kael spawns equip the mace and cast any heal or Glyphed PW:S, this will give you the Mace buff reducing Fire damage taken by 50% for 30 seconds, you will need to keep this up through out the fight, at all other times you should keep the Staff equipped and active so as to not fall victim to the his AOE stun, it looks like Arcane explosion. Kill the Eggs when the Phinoxes die to prevent them from Re spawning.

Occasionally he will put up his Shock barrier and begin casting Pyroblast, at this point you should Pop Archangel or Shadowfiend and burn through the 80k needed, once the shield is broken Silence him to stop the Pyroblasts. Alternatively you can just Disperse the Pyroblasts and/or heal through it.

Once at 50% he will run away and then start casting Gravity Laps, sucking you in and putting up a Shield, simply swim away and keep yourself alive, he is for the most part immune to all damage during as he spams his shield. Once gravity laps goes down its back the the previous grind, keep it up and eventually he will fall.

Simplifying it a bit, keep the Mace buff up, keep the Staff equipped and active, PW:S on cd, line of sight and heal/renew when needed, use CDs for mana, cast SW:D for mana if needed, always Keep dots rolling, kite the Pheonix and always kill the Phoenix Eggs. Once past the 50% mark the fight is much pretty much over simply burn him down while keeping yourself alive.

Good luck and Keep at it.

Comment by Kemaria

The mount dropped for me earlier this week - something I'd honestly never expected to be lucky enough to get. RIP Ezra Chatterton - I've been beyond excited to get this mount, but I haven't forgotten and will not forget the one who will forever be associated with it - Ephoenix, the first rider of the phoenix mount.

A quote from the tribute Ezra's father wrote:

My son, Ezra Phoenix Chatterton, Ephoenix the Hunter, Squirlanator the Mage, is gone. All we have left in this world are memories of him. Please remember that he was a good person, smart and clever but also very kind, that he loved to play World of Warcraft, that he loved rice pudding and fettucine alfredo, and that he went through so much pain and still found ways to smile all the way to the end. Please remember too the kindness of Blizzard, and the overwhelming love of the WoW community. Without these gifts, Ezra would still have found a way to be happy and optimistic, just not as easily.

Lok'tar ogar, brother Horde.

Comment by 922150

Has anyone been soloing this as an 85 pally? Wondering if it's actually doable or not.

Comment by 945897

Looking for a group to get this mount with. I will do raid every week till everybody gets the mount no matter how long it takes. I'm blazingember on burning legion so plz add me and mention tempest keep.

Comment by 950814

I will get it... :-)

Comment by 955510

Amazing for my Blood elf Mage. I can't wait to reserve it, I got a Guild who is willing to let me!

Comment by Keristrasza

Obtained 3/8/12 on Uldum, Alliance side. We did it with 5 people, 1 tank, 1 healer, and 4 dps. We did a fair /need roll, and I won it :) I am so excited it is beyond words. I have never seen this mount drop, and I am sure I will never see it again. I have not seen anyone else on my server with it, either. Best of luck to those who are farming, it is a beauty and a real attention-getter.

Comment by Ebolkaa

Ebolienka (Blood DK) level 85 (Burning Blade EU) soling Kaelthas Sunstrider... Mount dropped today, 23.3.2012! YEAH!

Comment by 450615

Our guild farms Kael'thas Sunstrider for this every week, along with some other bosses that drop mounts (Sartharion 3D, Malygos, and Onyxia). This mount by far stands the test of time. It is simply gorgeous. No matter what you are doing at the time it's extremely difficult NOT to notice someone flying past on an Ashes of Al'ar with its colorful streamers, the trail of awesomeness. It by far is one of the biggest "look at me"! items ever put in the game. Between this and my Azure Drake, I'll be happy with my flying mounts for about forever. I am an enthusiastic mount collector and have a number of other very cool and/or prestigious mounts, but I always wind up coming back to, and taking flight on my phoenix. Just can't help it.

Even more awesome than the mount itself is the story of its first recipient, Ezra Chatterton (http://www.wowpedia.org/Ezra_Chatterton). If you haven't read about it I highly suggest you do. By far one of the greatest things Blizzard ever did. If you have any soul whatsoever it's nearly impossible to not be moved by his story. Every Lunar Festival, regardless of what else I do with the holiday, I always visit Elder Ezra Wheathoof in Thunder Bluff to pay respects and honor his memory.

Quite possibly the greatest mount ever created in the game.

Comment by centurius

I got it last night on my 10th KT kill in Tempest Keep! Good luck everyone!

Comment by Texxi

Ugh.

It's hopeless.

75 Kills now. And never ever saw it...

Anyone here to share the pain?

Comment by 632709

Just got mine on my 15th kill. First solo attempt. 4/9/2012.
I can get ashes but I can't get the White Hawkstrider from the 5 man after 149 kills. lol.

Comment by jonnydepths

Just decided to do it on a one off today, managed to solo everything cept Kael'thas so got DK tank friend to come help me kill him, Ashes dropped and only reason I got them was cos he didn't realise they'd dropped and passed on everything XD

Comment by 82881

Confirmed:

You don't have to kill Al'ar (or any other bosses) for Ashes to drop. Got them yesterday on my 4th solo attempt, and I've never killed Al'ar

You also don't have to worry about the two trash mobs on the far sides in Kael's room; they won't aggro as long as you don't get close to them

Kael's mind control ignores the tank, and requires line of sight to affect anyone else. No need to ever suicide anybody

I have two accounts so to make the fight incredibly smoother I'd use my Blood DK for doing the actual kill, and my warlock to just wear the staff for cc-immunity and he stayed out of line of sight when applicable to avoid mind control. Occasionally toss dots on as well to speed up the kill. Easy

Comment by traviscurry89

I got this mount on 4/24/12 on Magtheridon 3 manned it with a tank heals and ranged dps I was super stoked when I got it as you can imagine. Thought of Ezra to. Strength and Honor my friend.

Comment by ellil

This item really seems to bring out the extremes in people more than any other in the game. I have read and heard about UGLY fights and ninjas where entire servers have put a ninja on blast. But, despite this, I was able to experience the extreme good that this item can produce as well.

I had become friends with a death knight in my guild, and I had been teaching him WoW (he was very new to the game; he never had anyone to guide him. Quick learner and talented, but just needed a nudge in the right direction). I had been trying for weeks to solo Kael, and I wiped countless times on the weapons phase as a mage. I couldn't take a 5 man group into this place because I would be devastated if I lost the roll on the extreme chance it dropped. One day I decided what the heck, I'll try and two man it with my friend. If I lose the roll, at least it is to someone I respect and can I be genuinely happy for. He came along with me and we cleared out all 3 TK bosses leading to Kael just for fun and a bit of gold. I quickly went over the strategy we were going to use to my friend, and after a few attempts to learn the fight as a two man, we finally got it down.

I was able to finish off the final phase of the fight with my friend dead, and I killed Kael while surviving with 100 health and 0 mana (as close as it comes). After the epic end to the fight I went over and looted, and there it was. On some divine intervention, the ashes dropped. Even more shocking, after the initial freak out of seeing it drop, my friend passed on the ashes and gave it to me for helping him out in the game so much. He knew how much I wanted it, and he gave it to me as thanks. He had said he would give the mount to me before we went, but I didn't believe him at all because NO ONE passes on Ashes. I've seen how many people have said they would ninja this if they had the chance despite being honest players normally (I'd even made it painfully clear how rare this is to him).

After I mounted up on my ashes I offered him all my gold, to power level his alts, buy all his enchants, get any mount in the game for him, and basically anything he wanted in the game he could have it for the rest of time. He denied all of it and refused to take anything because he said he was paying ME back (I forced some some stuff on him though haha). I still massively disagree with him on who is paying back who in this situation (I still buy him things he needs). Out of all the ugly stories this mount dropping can produce, this is the last thing I would have ever expected to happen to me when I saw it drop.

Now, here's to farming Kael till the end of time to get my friend his Ashes!

Comment by DorianFyre

EDIT: IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THIS IS AN OLD GUIDE AND YOU PROBABLY DONT NEED TO FOLLOW THESE TACTICS ANYMORE. But, I'll keep the guide here for prosperity.

A moderately well geared Blood DK's / Monk's brief guide to soloing Kael'thas for Ashes of Al'ar. with tips on how other classes could do it. Brief enough to read as you do it! (but read it first anyway) NOTE this guide was made for Cata and is probably even easier now.

Also edit for interest, patch 5.1 December 6th 2012, I finally got Ashes!. I haven't been farming it every week but it has taken, estimate about 20 attempts? Guess I'm pretty lucky.

First, clear the whole raid. You don't need to kill the bosses but if you can't do them you probably can't do KT, to test yourselves on them. All the trash needs to die though.

Enter Kael's room, aggro, then run to the start of the instance. Put your back to a wall and wait for the warrior dude. He does knockbacks, don't get knocked out the instance, hence why you keep your back to a wall. I learned that the hard way.

As SOON as he dies, run to the back of the phoenix room, in the middle but not up the stairs. Kill the paladin dude.

Next, pelt it upstairs and go into either tunnel - doesn't matter but I usually go to the right. Kill the mage as soon as you see her, she should get to about the bottom of the corridor that leads to Kael's room by the time you get there. Be warned, her disorient can't be broken out of (except if you have staff but DKs can't get that).

Then, run up said corridor after you kill her, and kill the engineer dude. Kill him quick enough and you won't get his annoying stun debuff. You should now be right near Kael's room, a purple barrier thing stopping you getting in. That's fine.

Kael will now summon the weapons. You need to kill them in less than a minute or so but try not to blow CDs. You'll need them for the next bit. Pop a CD if you have trouble killing them before the next step but it'd be better if you didn't. NOTE: If you're doing this as a class that can equip staves, you mightaswell equip the Staff because it makes you immune to the disorient. You'll do less damage but it's the disorients that get you killed, so this way is much safer.

Kael ressurects all adds at once after about a minute and a half or two, with more than twice their original hp. This is the most crucial moment of the fight. As he starts saying he will do this through yell, time it so that by the time he's finished, you've finished casting Army of the Dead you can start nuking the closest guy to you; the Engineer. This is where you need your CDs. You need to get the engineer down (about 400k hp) before the mage at the end of the corridor can run up to you. Icebound Fortitude if you get affected by his debuff before he dies, as you really don't want to get stunned whilst you take on the mage, or are still taking down the engineer.

Kill him and then kill the mage as fast as you can ASAP. This is what I call the danger zone of the whole fight. If you don't kill the mage fast enough, you get disoriented for 9 seconds and you can't break out of it. Or if you arn't a DK you can just pick up the stave and you don't have to worry about the disorient at all, it just takes longer to kill them.. which isn't a problem. But otherwise this CC is unbreakable and the longer the mage is around, the smaller your chances of doing the fight.

Bare in mind you've got the paladin incoming. Tip: use Anti-Magic Shell to not get affected by the disorient and nuke her down with whatever you got left. Finishing the paladin and warrior should be easy enough. Fighting them all at once is virtually impossible and the sole reason you spread their corpses around the instance to start with. Unless you have the staff.

Finally Kael comes out. I run back up to the purple barrier blocking his door and fight him there. Interrupt his Fireball when you can and save anti-magic shell for his pyroblasts. Kael will STILL hurt like HELL, even as a lv70 raid boss. Don't underestimate him. Kill the phoenixes and phoenix eggs that spawn, and stay out of the glowing fire crap on the ground, basic stuff really. When he gets to about 50% hp, he runs back to his room and does some stuff. I use this time to heal up, get CDs back and so on.

(Alternatively, you can run near to the start of the instance and fight him in Al'ar's room. The reason why running back might be a good idea is, when he gets to 50% he will run all the way back to his room, spend about 30 seconds powering up, then run back to you. If you need more time to wait for CDs or anything, try it. I usually find it fine to just sit outside the purple door to his room, though.)

When he comes back he will have a new ability; Gravity Lapse. Basically the moment he uses that, just run away and hide behind a sticky-outy bit in the wall. In fact if you just run away far enough you should be fine but I hide behind it anyway just to make sure. He starts spamming Nether Beam, which reduces all stats by 10% and stacks 9 times. You can't beat Kael if you let that stack on you, so all you have to do is run away, so you don't get affected by it too much and can carry on smacking him once he stops. Then it's just rinse and repeat as he was with above 50% health, except the running away from Nether Beam part.

It took me a few tries to get it right, was about to quit before giving it one more shot which worked.
I tried again recently thinking it would take a few tries but can do it pretty much first attempt every time now.

Good luck. Sell TK boosts to people after you get the phoenix for extra monies. Boost people on RP realms who want T5 for super golds.

Comment by 952779

Just got this tonight. My friend and I started farming this back in 2008. We did it every week, proving that this drop rate is accurate or even lower. No idea how many time we did it.

At 80, we did a group of 5.

At 85, I'm a Priest and did it with another priest. Very easy to 2 man. I can even solo it, but it's a bit tricky and very close. After farming this for 4 years, both my friend and I have this mount. It shows that friendship can get you anything.

Comment by 635503

Account wide mounts have been confirmed and have been added to the beta. Now that mounts will be shared between all of my characters, I will be farming this mount on all five of my 85's, greatly increasing the chance of getting this bad boy.

Comment by hyperioussoe

With the new information coming out about Account-Wide Mounts in Mists of Pandaria, those of you who, like me, desperately want this on their main no longer have to fear running TK on an alt.

Where before, you had to run it in fear of seeing the mount drop while you were on an alt, now it doesn't matter. Race those toons to level-cap and start farming this guy ten times a week.

With any luck, the Phoenix will be yours in only a few months' time instead of ten billion years.

Comment by peepjynx

Bump this up - I was never a religious KT killer but this was my 7th attempt in 3 years on my DK and it dropped.

I'm on Lightning's Blade -US and this has dropped for at least 1 guildie every week and on my server - countless others.

I'm sure they increased the drop rate or we're just really lucky - but not a week goes by where at least 2 people get it....

Midnight on the other hand...... :(

Comment by 164958

This mount will be part of the Black Market Auction House in Mists of Pandaria.

Comment by 798731

In Mists of Pandaria, you will be able to purchase this mount from the Black Market Auction House. It will only be up for Auction for 24 hours...and it will not always be up for auction but will be more of a random posting by Mei Francis. I can't wait to see trade blow up when this Mount gets listed...and then see the chaos that will ensue from the bidders.

Comment by Hoodeddeath

From what ive been told im extremely lucky, i went into TK one time my very first time and had this mount drop to go along with my dumb luck of getting the white hawkstrider on my second time in that instance and the fiery warhorse after about maybe 10 boss kills.. still trying on my ravenlord tho.. XD good luck to everyone! hopefully everyone can get what they want if anything save up your gold and buy it in mop...? lol

Comment by 995389

Did Tempest Keep today. My 4th time I believe and I got it. Really love this mount.

Comment by 995588

i got one yesterday, first time in tempest keep, and i was the last to do a need rolll. ITS SO PRETTY ! (:

Comment by 971452

Just droppe for my 6th run i even have a screenshot here with the legendary wings :)
I was so happy that i got it. To be honest i did it with my friend who already have it so it was obvious that i will get it but not for the 6th run
The funny fact is that my friend has done only 16 runs and he saw 2 of these
Jaqenhqhar-ragnaros eu-allience side :)

Comment by Aquafurry

I went to TK on my healer, the characters first time, my third. This mount was mentioned by the raid leader several times and I knew that if it dropped my chances of winning were slim, due to a full raid group. After downing Kael, we were all shocked to see it drop, many of us had never seen it, including the raid leader. We all rolled for it, many of us praying to the RNG gods that we would get a high number. I won it, barely, with a +1 over the raid leader. People offered me all of their gold, but I really wanted the mount all to myself. The raid leader was bummed at the loss, but was happy for me. After a little talking, the raid leader and I became friends and I run with her on her TK attempts.

Happiest day ever =)

Comment by Darkdiamond

Just dropped after 22 runs, and got ninja'd. lol so know I know 22 weeks of running it at the least from now on.

Comment by donthavename

Got mine on my 7th try today had to pay 28k all well worth it tho :D

Comment by dexter98

36 runs on my ret pally, 34 runs on my warrior, 30 runs on my 1st Dk and 11 runs on my 2nd DK that's 111 runs and still no mount.

I made 2nd DK specifically to farm Ashes, it kills me a little every time I see people flying around with less than 10 kills.

Comment by pLcs

I just ran TK on my blood dk. I died the first time cause of the CC, it was 2 much for me. Second time I almost died but I made it to final phase. I downed the boss and to my surprise the mount dropped, it was so worth staying there. I almost cried :D. So 500g + mount yes please! Well im a happy camper when pandaria comes out since all my chars will have this mount. Just remember if soloing if you get through the disorientation part you could ez do it. Thamuz, blood dk @ Bloodhoof Europe

Comment by wouter1246

My ultimate wow goal is to get this mount!

Comment by THunter

Just dropped for the second week in a row whilst 3 manning it.

15th ever run, also dropped about 2 months ago.

So 3 drops in 15 runs, lucky? :D

Comment by 1017787

I just won this mount on my first try at TK, I ran it with 2 other people and won the Roll :)

Comment by Trukido

From what i've seen in PTR. Ashes of Al'ar will no longer be obtainable in MoP and become a feat of strength.

Comment by Frostician

Got it on my first run of TK. Really pissed that the horseman hasn't dropped from Kara yet though...

Comment by Ellinna

With a 2% drop chance, it's higher than just about any other mount drop in dungeons/raids. The Amani War Bear, of course, is 100% if you beat the timer.

Had it drop today and was shocked as any person would be.

Comment by 1021379

Got it with my hunter at 1st try,if you are a dk or hunter dont do anything but solo this boss.Good Luck everyone

Comment by 991302

Dropped for me today, August 14, 2012 on Area 52. I got offered 50k for it, and i couldn't as I don't have it on any other character. It's amazing. I'm so happy as i usually have terrible luck. Thanks you Blizzard and your randomness.

Comment by sTyLnK

I'm so happy to finally get this mount. This dropped my very first attempt many years ago and I lost the roll by one. To lose and be so close, we all know that feeling of losing out on something you really want. It's not a good feeling. But, I decided not to give up. After 70 attempts, it finally dropped again and I was lucky enough to WIN the roll by one. I know it's a comment that people won't care about, but after that many attempts to see it drop again and to finally win, no one is going to take this away from me. It's cliche, but very true. If you want it bad enough, you'll be rewarded one day. :)

Comment by 1023306

I got this Badass mount yesterday abou 3:00 PM,

Really glad I got it It's just VERY beautiful, However, I first did the instances nearby, The arcatraz, The Mechanar or However you spell them! >_< A few guildies and I decided too catch up people and do a firelands run, but we didn't find as many as we thought so we threw in ourselves in Tempest Keep instead! Jeez good we didn't find peeps! I was already there and I Summed the group with my mate Darión when he came, (I was already there because I had done the instances nearby) The group got inside We cleared thrash, Killed the Bird wich has the same model as Ashes of Al'ar. Then too the giant robot, We did not kill that third boss we just got too the main boss and wiped him out quickly, We were like 10 85s. However the mount was reserved for me and when the boss was dead and I looted him, I saw the mount laying there, I got like 500 heart-beats a second and the leader passed it over too me. Now I am riding on it and many people are saying gz :)

You also get a Feast of Strength Achievement from getting the mount. I am really happy that I got it, The chances were low and I "KNEW" It would not drop, I am still glad we never got enough people for the Firelands!

Beautiful Mount, I am Lucky having it! :)

Comment by johannhowitzer

I heard a rumor this was being removed as a drop in Pandaria - likely only a rumor, but if anyone gets this to drop in patch 5 or later, please post so we can confirm it still drops. If it doesn't, the rate is so low we'll probably never know for sure anyway though.

Comment by johannhowitzer

Rough cumulative chance for this mount to drop at least once over multiple attempts:

(Note: each individual attempt is still 2%, past failures do not increase your chances in the future.)

1 attempt: 2% drop
5 attempts: 10%
11 attempts: 20%
20 attempts: 33.3%
35 attempts: 50%
55 attempts: 66.6% (little over a year)
69 attempts: 75%
80 attempts: 80%
94 attempts: 85%
114 attempts: 90% (over two years)
148 attempts: 95%
228 attempts: 99% (four and a half years)

Happy farming.

Comment by 1027216

This mount does still drop 5.0.4 I got it Aug 31. Around my 15th try gl guys don't give up it's an awesome mount.

Comment by 1028978

This had dropped August 1'st 2012. My very first run of the eye on my main death knight EVER, i was amazed to see it. Everyone in the group knew it was on reserve for me. However our guild healer left and we wiped, logically i searched through trade chat for a new one. Me being myself, forgot to let out new healer know that ashes was on res. Well, as i said, it dropped, me being the master looter i eagerly selected my name. The healer was furious at the least, since she didnt know it was on res despite the guild letting her know it was, she made us do a roll. The guild all tried to get the mount for me. Unfortunatly, the 3 remaining guild members of The Holy Knights could not win me the Ashes of Al'ar, i am still hunter for the beast and i am determined to get it back. Keep fighting guys! It will drop for you too!

Comment by Corq

I remember when this was the fastest mount in the game. It was funny watching people bow down to your 310% vs their 280% Still looks cool though

Comment by Esploratore

Just in case anyone was worried "oh, al'ar didn't drop in my solo runs so far, now it might have been removed", no, it didn't get removed in MOP, dropped today on my 66th attempt of which first was 8-man not even going for the mount but just for the achievement, a few 3-man mount farming, 15-20 2-man warrior and mage, like 10 more time soloed as warrior, like 34 times soloed on dk, all of this at level 85, and once on a level 89 rogue and dropped on my first and last run on my 89 mage. Got some screenshots in case someone doesn't believe it still drops, till then there's no need to post them.

Comment by 812990

I got this pretty thing on a wednesday at 1 am, me and my friend enterd the eye around 0:30 and it was killed around 1 am, i dont know why but i always loot bosses that drops mounts some seconds after death mounts mostly drop when i wait a bit, but anyways, i looted it like 15 sec after death and i saw the icon if ashes at this moment i was screaming like the little girl i am, my friend was laughing, and was so nice to pass the mount for me, but still gonna do the eye every week till he gets it, happy farming everyone, it will drop sometime

Comment by Kookiebiskit

A friend of mine had been doing TK for several months, years probably, always in PuGs without Master Looter to give everyone who helped kill the boss a fair chance at the mount. A couple of times, I went with him.
One night, we were having particular problems with Kael, as he kept glitching out on us. We had to restart the fight a good seven or eight times before finally downing him. I ran up to Kael's corpse and clicked on it.
The mount had dropped.
We decided all to roll need on it, apart from the priest, who most nobly passed on it. So I clicked the little dice button and waited. Needless to say, I was slightly disappointed when I saw I had rolled a 64. Then I kept reading the numbers. 33, 18, 15... the other numbers weren't as high as mine. I checked my bags and saw the icon there, refusing to believe the possibility of it to be true. My heart skipped several beats.
Then something clicked in my head and I felt terribly guilty. "What", I thought, "will my friend think of me? Will he ever even talk to me again?" So I ran up to his character, opened the trade window, dragged the mount in there and pressed "Trade".
He ignored the trade. Just like that, after I had forced it on him, no price, nothing, just for our friendship's sake. He absolutely refused to accept it, believing that as I won it, it had to be mine to keep.
After a good ten minutes of arguing and making him swear we wouldn't fall out over it, I gave in. And so, by the honour and goodness of one of the greatest people I know, I came to own this extraordinarily beautiful mount.

: Today, 6th of March, my friend finally got his Ashes. I am so happy for him, you cannot believe :)

Comment by 674376

At 20 runs. I do it every Tuesday night after our guild raid. Must not give up!

Comment by 999328

My fi and I ran for this beauty today. He was a level 90 monk while I was a level 85 hunter. During the fight I died but he took down Kael'. In disbelief and awe the reins dropped and he yelled: "Don't Need!" I greed on the reins and he got his phoenix (first time running the dungeon). If I had rolled Need I would had won her... but, fate smiled on me when we ran for the Virtuous Stone Drake afterward and I received its reins.

Comment by Photonz

I obtained this mount about 6 months ago doing a relatively small pug run. All 6 of us rushed to Kael to down him quickly, it was meant to be a simple xmog run.

I was the only healer and our group kept wiping because everyone didn't seem to know the mechanics. My friend and I explained them and we gave additional attempts. After the 8th wipe I was just about fed up with this group until I remembered that it would be rude to simply hearth out. I stuck through and we downed him, barely, on the 9th attempt.

The mount dropped and I lost the roll by 3. Luckily, the winner was a guildy and sold me the mount for 200k.

I see now that this item is purchasable on the BMAH. I'm sad to see it won't be as rare anymore, but I'm glad it will give more people the opportunity to enjoy this fantastic mount. But beware, my 200k buying price of the mount has been scoffed at by many so if you are truly interested at buying this mount from the bmah, you better have well more than I paid. Good luck!

Comment by merit12

just got it as solo fury warrior . First run ever :D sick

Comment by Ekomi

Just a little pointer: Kael'thas is now quite effortlessly soloable as a 90 Rogue with at least halfway decent gear and a Combat spec.

The best way to do this would be to clear one of the two hallways leading up to him of trash, then killing the advisors into the hallway. Make sure Capernian dies quite a bit away from the others so you have time to nuke her down before Telonicus' Remote Toy or Thaladred's knockback start messing with you. The only real issue is the phase with all 4 advisors at the same time - Kael himself MIGHT hurt you a bit, but just keep Recuperate up and use cooldowns intelligently.

Good luck farming, my Rogue brothers and sisters.
-Ekomi, Scarshield Legion EU

Comment by Anstriber

You can buy Ashes on Black Market Auction House i saw it few days ago on bmha largest bid was around 300k :D

Comment by PainKiller

So... The very first time I kill Kael'thas with my blood dk, the mount drops, I was there for achievements and there it happened, one shocked and happy player lol...

Comment by Xerk1

I've been doing this boss 2/3 man with same friends almost every week.

Today we did 2man it. After 38 kills it finally dropped ! I rolled 73 and my friend rolled 80 :P. He deserved it tho
Guess I won't see it again, but I do have faith!

Comment by Killerchronic

Having just done this as a rogue for the first time solo (i usually try with a healer friend, we were at it for quite some time at 85). I still used the tactic that a pally did soloing back at 85, which was to start the fight, run out the room and to the front door, take down the 2 minibosses there, then run back and take the 3rd (caster) up the ramp as if your going back to KT's room and then brought the 4th into the room with loot reaver. Took the weapons on the ramp while going back up to the caster.

Not entirely sure what happened but after about 30secs with the caster (knockbacks were keeping me away alot) i suddenly ended up ported to the front door with the first two i had pulled there. Caught me off guard a bit but dps'd them down and worked my way back, by the time i was leaving Al'ar's room all 4 were dead and it was KT coming through the door. With level 90 and gear from Hc's and a few bits from LFR he was not very bad at all.

Did use recuperate once or twice but nothing more, also used Leeching Poison, but i never really felt worried, remote toy was as annoying as always though.

And the bit i'll prob get hated for, the mount did drop :D

Comment by 538990

After 102 kills on my paladin alone, and a few others scattered between other toons, all with the mount reserved, it finally dropped for me. Nothing can describe the pain and emotions I've gone through farming this mount. I've literally dreamt about it. Feels good, man. I will never use another mount ever.

~Cormier, Whisperwind US~

Comment by 1049485

Just got it 10minutes ago, I'm so happy :) Been trying to get the headless horseman reins without any luck, but this certainly makes up for it!

Comment by 1053487

Dropped on my second run today 08.11.12.
My key to luck is to always beg god before you loot, always works.

Comment by Slylou321

The formula to calculate your drop chance ( x ) over any given number of runs ( y ) is this
1 - ( ( 1 - x ) ^ y )

For Ashes of Al'ar:
Your X Value: .0217
Your Y Value: The amount of weeks you have wasted farming this mount

Comment by 466861

downed Kael'thas yesterday for the first time solo as Pala 90, sadly it didn't drop, I will farm this each week from now on :)

Comment by Losai

I can confirm with Mists of Pandaria this can be solo'd. Of course it would be easier solo'd with a pally, warrior, dk, ect. It may be difficult after just hitting 90 but I did it as soon as i hit on my DK as blood and could get it. If you have a ranged character then you will need to pick up and use the staff on yourself.

You will want to kill the MAGE first. If you are having difficulties then kill the guy with the GUN second. After that it doesn't really matter how you kill the other two. If you are low on health then you should have time to heal up before KT starts to attack you.

If you can't solo this then you will actually have to have safely like 4 or 5 people simply just because if there is more than one person he will do his MC and people will start attacking you and it hurts really bad. I'm not saying that it can't be done by 2 or 3, but when I tried it as 2 Mages and a Priest, the Mages both got MCd and killed the priest in a few seconds.

Hopefully this helps you be able to farm this mount a little better. If I left anything out please let me know =D Happy Farming!

Comment by 1054936

Got mine off the Black Market AH this morning for the low low price of 110K! And worth every copper IMHO :)

Comment by 325248

I don´t get why this mount is so popular. I´m not impressed at all, plus it´s graphics are way outdated. Of course, back in the day it was a huge thing.

Comment by 1059281

Got mine first try, guess its beginner luck :) easy to solo as a 90 hunter.

Comment by ekinorak

This is not hard to obtain nowdays. Me and a friend decided to farm this mount. Now in MoP the encounter is easily soloable. We used 2 Character each, hunter and druid, and shaman and druid. So we each got loot 2 times each week. Took us 3 Months(he got it after 2months, i got it after 3months). Basicly if you kill it with 2 toons every week, it shouldet take more than 25 tries. You can allways be unlucky, but this one has quite a high drop chance.

I dont like the trail the mount makes, as i tend to get it in my camera(Point of view). My guildmates dident feel sorry for me though :(

Comment by 162362

The near impossible happened today...dropped on 1st attempt. Did they change the drop rate! Armory Blargaragaga from Dragonmaw once I get flight training.

Comment by 1061682

This mount just dropped for me today 5th of December 2012. Soloed boss as 90 windwalker monk with no problem at all. My ilvl is 475. Used touch of death on da female blood elf Mage, instantly killed her cause wiped on her annoying spells the 1st time. Expel harm and chi wave all the time to regen health. Kill fast.

Comment by ValyBMW

Got it on second run after 5.1

Comment by Ashleyy

To all the people coming here and saying "ohh i got it 2nd run, is drop rate increased?" no. People have been saying the same thing about the onyxian mount. The fact is were 90 now and these bosses are so easy to solo now. Almost everyone is farming these so for a good amount of people to get it, is not out of the ordinary at all.

Tl;DR
Mount drops rates have NOT been increased. Just because it drops for you doesnt mean you have to question the drop rate and post about how you got it your second try

Comment by nopparitari

still drops in 5.1.0 since i just got mine :D

Comment by Cessna

Got this yesterday on my (frost) mage.
I did Kael about 6 weeks in a row, before I got it. Not a lot of tries by any means.
I might be somewhat done with 'mount farming' now actually. I have the hawkstrider from MGT and now Ashes. So I have both of Kael's mounts. The sweetest thing about obtaining it was the achievement popup in the guild chat, and everyone's congratulations.

Comment by Alonon

I have been farming this for over 4 years now. 104 kills on my main account and another 20 ish on another account. I refuse to buy it off the BMAH just because I want to feel as if I earned it after all this time. Ashes, I will have you!

Edit. 5FEB13 119 kills. No luck. 97 ony clears with no luck also. The game hates me.

Edit. 13FEB13 103 ony kills and got the mount. 125 kael kills and still no luck.

Edit. 26FEB13 139 kills. It dropped. Now to malygos farming. =)

Comment by Corq

Lets break it down a bit.

Think of a graph, where Y represents time farming and X represents how important this mount is. X=Y(Squared), based on that formula you can clearly see that there's a point where you farmed the mount so much, that its no longer gaining any importance, its simply wasting your time.

X=Y(Squared)

To all those people who claim to have spent 3+ years farming this, please refer to the formula.

Comment by MrB153

Just soloed him tonight on my warlock first time, and had the mount drop. My joy was dampened as my gf was sitting next to me and about wanted to kill me since it's her favorite mount, and she has yet to see it:S

Comment by catadon22

so... much... farming!

Comment by 976574

I am currently farming this mount for my collection, i have obtained all satchel mounts, the fiery warhorse, onyxian drake etc. The only thing that is a bummer is i have managed to obtain some very rare mount's in my time, i have farmed TK longer than any other place, and i think that i have drained my luck completely. I will continue to farm, and i wish everybody luck and congratulations if you manage to obtain this beautiful mount. Kael'thas is one of my favourite hero's within Warcraft. All i have left to farm is the Ashes, and the Azure Drake. Then my 'solo' farming is complete, wish me luck!

Grooved/Acidass/DarkspearEU

Cheers!

Comment by 1047616

Just decided to run this, for the first time since last expansion.
Really, I just couldn't sleep and needed something to do for fifteen minutes while I got drowsy.
So, I decided to see if my poor little Ret paladin could solo this.
I ran in, and died...but wasn't tired yet, so I gave it a second chance!
Able to kill his four annoying adds whilst bubbling to get one down, so I wasn't fully CC'ed the entire time,
I was able to get passed them and onto Kael!
Phase 4 rolls around and I'm full health feeling pretty good, and officially tired.
He drops to the ground, I drop him!
He drops... Ashes of Al'ar

Now how am I going to sleep!

Comment by ganjalord

unfortunately this isnt a rare trophy anymore.... after the buff to the drop rate and TK becoming easier to solo this mount is seen all over now... quite common. doesnt have the same spice it used to...once you see 4-5 other ones floating around.

Comment by Jaiyara

Still drops as of 5.1 Got Monday 12/8/12 :)

Comment by petejk

Tried two manning this, and the fight kept glitching out, so brought in another 3 players.

Wasn't even after the mount, but a quest item, but it dropped..

Wow is all I can say!

Comment by Purelife

is it true u can only fly in northrend and outland? or did they change that?

Comment by 1052173

Does anyone know if Breanni will sell this on the Black Market? If anyone sees it, give us a run down on the bidding war, lol.

Comment by DarkZaraelys

This dropped yesterday. We were there for a priest chest token off kel. a shamy and prot pali with the holy priest, longest fight ever... 2 classes that could heal kept Kel at near full health. Shamy kept me hexed when I was MC.

Was so shocked to see the mount drop that I staired at it for about 50 seconds and then went "Yes, everyone needs" about 50 more seconds passed before the priest asked "we all needing?" He won. ;) Best consolation prize for not getting the drop we were there for, ever.
Now to see if me and the shamy can get one to drop

Comment by phantom325

This item is sold on the BMAH

Comment by Jenadaex

Every single rare epic pre-mists has had its drop rate dramatically raised in 5.1. I don't understand why you all are in such great denial. This isn't due to more people running it, everyone has been seeing more epics. This week alone i have seen both ashes & onyxias mount pop up, that is a 0.00012% chance according to wowheads current data. While that is obviously in the realm possibility you all really need to start accepting that the drop rate has increased. Just watch Reins of the Onyxian Drake's drop rate for a week and you will quickly see it raising oddly fast.

Comment by jam0199

Got the mount last night after only my 3rd successful solo kill. Maybe the drop rate increased.....or maybe it was just sheer dumb luck. At any rate, it seems wasted since I cancelled my subscription 2 days prior. :(

Comment by Sidiouss

I dropped it today
Doing it solo till 4 months and now it's mine.

and I'm flying on Orgrimmar like "like a boss" now.

Comment by Arzax

A guildie and I started running The Eye and some other old raids a few weeks back.

Third run and the mount dropped on 1/4/2013.

Comment by 1071884

Last night on an impulse I ran tempest keep on my warrior. I had just seen someone with a dark Phoenix and I thought of ashes. I flew out and did some archaeology in the way and when I got to tempest keep, I was. Expecting to get some their tokens that I had form other raids. I skipped the other bosses and kill kael thalas without using the fake legendarys which you dont have to use. I clicked the loot widow and I saw ashes. This was my first run of tempest keep and you can see that I got the archive for finishing it at the same time I got the feat of strength. My armory is http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/cairne/Pionjudson/simple. For all the people that say It will never drop, it will. I was lucky enough to get it in one night. Just keep going. I'm going to run it again with guildies and see if it will do 1/1000 drop ie a second drop in a row. Btw, I did brag a ton and spammed gs chat cuz I was so happy.
Also, my name is Ezra and this makes it feel even a bit more special considering ephoenix. And don't down rate, I'm just telling you all to keep at it and it will drop. Also, I think any class can solo it at 90 if they have some sort of self healing ability like recuperate, second wind wich is now getting nerfed so I'm running all the bc raids while I can or anything else. You will get it at some point if you don't give up. It also is the sickes mount in wow and I've had people wsp me saying of they could they would pay 275k+ which I think I would have to take for it. And it is the ferrari of wow. People wsp me all the time saying they love it. I've had a guy on a tlpd say he would trade ten tlpds for just one roll on alar. Also, if your n a medium server, you wi ll be the only alar some people have ever seen. Also buy the Phoenix hatchling so you can have alars sun fly along side you and you wil the the !@#$ dat da %^&*!es love

Comment by Zattebanjo

Got mine 2 hours ago took me 5 weeks :)

Comment by 1077048

2 manned TK with my best friend randomly and it dropped for me a few days ago.

Comment by 1077090

Been after this since BC havent even seen the thing drop yet.

Comment by mooshimanx

If you enter water while riding Ashes of Al'ar you will be dismounted and you cannot remount Ashes of Al'ar while you are underwater. Ashes isn't the only mount that does this but the effect is to make it look like he got "extinguished" when you head in, which makes me laugh when it occurs.

Comment by Yogthsothoth

Was bored and decided to kill Vashj and Kael'thas.

Anyway why lie I'm here to brag, jokingly I said to my brother if it drops "imma crap my pants". When I saw the symbol in the name time kinda stopped, and now I'm flying around on my ashes that I DO NOT deserve because I got them very first kill..

good luck, glad I'll never know the months/years of grind

Comment by Bababooeyhs

First time our guild did kael back in bc it dropped. Mass dkp bidding ensued.

Comment by Bortt

Just got this, dropped on my 15th attempt of solo farming as a combat rogue(483 gear currently). Started farming it when I dinged 90, as my gear improved the fight became trivial. I recommend using a pvp trinket to break the 9 second disorient. With a little bit of finesse and keeping recuperate up, the fight was no problem and I was able to do the entire encounter in the main boss room(no kiting) which saved a LOT of time. I will actually miss farming this a little bit, as this was always at the top of my wish list! Time to find something else :)

Comment by 766127

I solo'd this raid until i got the mount. Only took me like 5 weeks. I got really lucky. Dont worry you will get it eventually if you keep running it

Comment by 820899

Solo'ed Today on Andorhol with decent geared combat rogue and this dropped. Yay me, I was just reaching for the achievement points to pull ahead of another guildie. Mount looks cool, but its hard to roll with it because of the flashiness.

Comment by 1035722

this sold on the BMAH on Hydraxis realm tonight for just the mere pocket change of 427k

Comment by 968538

Was bored and thought i'd give the eye a quick run through befor the reset hadn't been back there for awhile and was the first time soloing it for me, and was suprisingly so much easier then i thought dont think i ever fell below 80% health in ret spec, well ran in there and straight up to Kael'thas and right befor he died i think i heard him say "god take the damn thing i'm sick off seeing your face" and then when i seen what loot he had given me i think i cried a little on the inside for his death.... I GOT HIS DAMN BIRD

After years off wanting this mount and cursing people i seen with it, now i can be the one people look at and go 'so pretty'
Realising that it's alot brighter and sorta can get abit annoying riding the thing then i thought... PRICELESS
(you really dont want to be on acid and ride around on this baby)

Comment by 1083556

I got this mount on my first run.... rolled a 97 to beat the rest of my group. Pretty damn lucky

Comment by dstark9

Just this got this mount tonight after probaly a span of 2-3 years of farming Kael. I don't think I will miss Tempest Keep one bit. It is a lot easier farming it at level 90. I use the pvp trinket and at level 90 you don't need to kite them out of the room like you had to at level 85. Its very easy for combat rogue. You can use cannabilize if your a undead to replenish your health if need be. Recuperate helps since the adds go down pretty fast. During 3rd phase. I would suggest killing the lady first. She can be a pain. Then try to kill the engineer. The other 2 I would definatly save for last. garetjaxx area 52 horde side.

Comment by 1084341

Just got the mount on my DK's first Kael kill, I hit level 90 tonight and thought I'd go kill Kael for fun to see if I could solo it and it dropped....I've killed him many times over the years on other toons but never really expected it to drop. I've wanted this mount since the Burning Crusade expansion, and it's finally mine, I think this will be the last flying mount I'll ever ride

Lakiria-LVL 90 DK Alliance Andorhal-US

You can see I got the feat of strength achievement the same day I got the Tempest Keep achievement :)

Comment by Memoryk

Do you think it's possible to solo this with Paladin ?

Comment by elhayden

solo'd on a frost mage without pet or mirrors (mc will screw you if you use either). found it easier to just spread the bosses out, so i cleared most of the raid for better kiting. his pyros hit hard, so LoS is all but a must. i also recommend invocation, as the frequent heals keep you a little less stressed.

was fortunate to get this on my 8th run. though not so lucky with other mount runs, this is the grand prize for me. would've been worth months and months of grinding. don't give up!

Comment by Bababooeyhs

Funny. I was asleep during maintenance and dreamed that I was riding this.. woke up and ran kael right away and it dropped.

Comment by 1086709

Got it at my second run , soloed as Feral, but im a bit dessapointed about him , he got an anoing sound when he fly the wings noice are anoyng but , cant be all as i like

Comment by Robobro

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but this is quite a noisy mount. The only flying mounts I have that are as noisy as this are the Netherwing Drake, and the 2 engineering Flying Machines.

I absolutely adore the appearance of Ashes, but as someone who regularly AFK's on my mount whilst doing other things on the PC, the noise can get extremely irritating after a while. A small pay-off for such a beautiful mount, but something worth noting in my opinion.

Comment by axelwestrup

Quick Question here. i have been farming Ashes since Cataclysm and i got on my first run. then next week i was helping my friend just for fun and Ashes of Al'ar Dropped again. now in Mist of Pandaria This mount has dropped 3 times for me, so im just wondering is the drop chance really 2%?

Comment by dragonsss

Today I was doing my normal routine again doing TK for Ashes of Alar, and after doing this run for 3 years straight It finally dropped for me today. I couldnt be more happier :)

Comment by 664366

ah yeah the Ashes of Al'ar, the now common mount that you see everywhere every day and that every scrub can get easily by spending 5 minutes every week facerolling KT with all their 90's

Comment by Sabodune

As of MoP, Kael'Thas is soloable on all classes. Depending on your spec, gear and class, you can solo the fight different ways. If your DPS is lower, you're probably going to want to solo the boss differently.

Basic mechanics for soloing:
As the mechanics in TK are still very important, there are some mechanics when soloing you don't want to ignore.
P1: No class at 90 should have any problem with adds; the advisers abilities are trivial one at a time.
(If healing is a problem for you class, kiting Thaladred is a good idea. If you let him smack you, it may be a good idea to pop a bubble type defensive CD to neutralize the debuff after he's dead.)
P2: Again, should not be a problem at 90. If your DPS is on the low end and you have trouble with P3 starting before the weapons are down, make sure you're interrupting the Cosmic Infuser's heal. Other than that they can be AoEd down very fast. The only weapon worth equiping still is the Staff of Disintegration: it will protect you from stuns for Telonicus as well as disorient from Kael'Thas. (Remember that you must equip the weapon and then use it for the buff.)
P3: This is the phase where things start to get messy. The advisers' abilities all together are a real nuisance, you will have to prioritize the four adds on this one or you will be CC-locked.
Grand Astromancer Capernian: She will cast a 10 second conflaguration on you every so often. She also has the least amount of health among the advisers. When soloing, she should go down first. (melee will want to attack her with their backs to a wall as she does have a knockback that slows)
Thaladred the Darkener: He hits by far the hardest and will silence you in melee range. He can be kited and saved for last, as he walks, rather than runs, but due to his damage output, I recommend killing him second. (He does have a knockback, which can help if you want to kite him.)
Master Engineer Telonicus: He will maintain a debuff that randomly stuns you for 4 seconds
(There is no GCD on this, so it is possible to be stun locked indefinitely, however implausible). Depending on how you plan on soloing this, determines his priority.
Lord Sanguinar: Once in a while he will fear you for four seconds. At 90, his damage is trivial and is not a significant threat on his own.
P4: Kael'Thas will become targetable and you can now work on him. Alone, you do not have to worry about MC, as he does not MC the tank. However, he can still hit fairly hard so this phase is when you want to pop CDs (offensice and defensive)
Pheonixs should not be a problem if they are killed as soon as they spawn (as well as their eggs). If left alone their AoE will add up, and if multiple pheonixs are up, this will add an unnecessary amount of damage.
Flame strike is another unnecessary damage causer. Simply step out of the large red circle.
If healing is a problem for your class, interrupt pyroblasts (silence works best, he will cast three in a row)
Silencing him will cause him to melee which does relatively no damage.
P5: At 50% health, he will return to his spawn point. (He may cast another disorient or MC between phases) When he returns to the ground and becomes targetable again he will throw you into the air. If you touch the ground you will be forced back up. Fly down to around his head height and begin to DPS.
When he casts netherbeams you will want to back up. It lowers you max health be a percentage each tick, if he gets enough stacks on you he can easily one shot you.
He will continue to spawn pheonixs but while in the air, their AoE won't hurt you; so unless you have nothing to do, you can usually leave them. His flamestrikes will also miss while you are airborn.

High DPS soloing:
If you can pull the numbers, the fight is really not a problem. In P3 you may want to take all the advisors except for Capernian to the back of the room, to give you extra time to nuke her, or incase she gets off a Conflaguration. Depending on how well you can heal yourself, you may also ignore the pheonix - should you push P5 before a second pheonic can even spawn.
Casters: If your DPS is high enough and healing isn't a problem for your class, the staff isn't really necessary. If you are not going to use the staff, during P3 you may want to kill Telonicus 2nd or 3rd, and leave Sanguinar alive until your Remote Toy debuff expires.
Melee: When positioning Capernian, keep in mind that her fireball is not bound by LoS, only by pathing. To position her where you'd like, you will have to make her chase you which can be annoying. (Hiding behind a wall will still make her run that extra little bit.)

Low DPS soloing:
This is essentially only for very poorly geared DPS, tanks and 85's.
You will want to use the whole instance for the fight. Clear a full path to the beginning of the instance. If you leave the room before Thaladred becomes attackable, you can use the entire instance for the fight. Kill Thaladred and Capernian at the very beginning of the instance (be aware they both have knockbacks and if they knock you out of the instance, the fight will reset.) If damage isn't a problem, kill Telonicus and Sanguinar both just outside Kael'Thas' chamber. Otherwise kill Sanguinar in the big room where Al'ar patrols(or patrolled if you plan on kill Al'ar first) If you aren't using the staff, pop offensive CDs to kill Telonicus first and then Sanguinar until Capernian arrives (Only focus Sanguinar when there are no other advisers on you (Note: for tanks who are barely too low DPS for the normal strat, you can use the shield to get out of Sanguinar's fear and help with another defensive CD)) Try and get Capernian down as soon as possible (if using the staff, pop offensive CDs). You do not want Caprenian and Thaladred up and on you at the same time. If Capernian is low, finish her off and then work on Thaladred. Otherwise it's probably GG. Make sure to stay away from walls and falling or Thaladred may teleport you to him.
Kael'Thas himself is essentially no different, though this strategy is much more likely to push P4 while advisers are up.
Once Kael'Thas is up and the advisers are down, the only difference soloing based on DPS is how much stress you have to put on the mechanics. (interrupts not mandatory for tanks.)

Pet soloing:
Pets can be quite useful for eating Capernian's Conflaguration. If you send your pet(s) at her before attacking her yourself, it is much easier to bring her down.
With a pet, either you or your pet will be subject to MC. If you can keep yourself up, you can either tank the boss yourself and LoS your pet from MC, or dismiss your pet. If your pet is capable of tanking, you may also LoS yourself from MC and have your pet do all the work. When Kael'Thas yells, "Obey me!" or "Bow to my will!" he is casting his MC. After that you have no more than 20 seconds to DPS the boss/ heal you pet. You will want to kill the pheonixs yourself if possible, or have you pet do it, as they will hit you pet for a notable amount.
In P5, netherbeam's debuff will affect your pet too, and your pet may die if you don't move it.

Comment by zezzox

they upped the drop % and now this mount is the new bronze drake in my eyes, everyone has one.

Comment by Hyperswagger

It is still Possible to get this mount as of 2/20/2013. Got mine to drop finally! Happy Hunting!

Comment by 1094628

I just got this to drop for me after years and years of nonstop farming for this lovely mount. It does not even feel real that it just has after seeing hundreds of kills with nothing and two times seeing it drop and losing it. Keep going at it guys, one day it will drop for you! I started out with just one character doing this every week up to now 5, thankfully I'm done forever! Best of luck everyone!

Comment by sickbox

Here is a list of mount drops from Instances, Raids, and World Bosses to save some looking around.

Level 60

Instances
Deathcharger's Reins - Stratholme - Lord Aurius Rivendare

Raids
Blue Qiraji Resonating Crystal - Temple of Ahn'Qiraj - Trash
Green Qiraji Resonating Crystal - Temple of Ahn'Qiraj - Trash
Yellow Qiraji Resonating Crystal - Temple of Ahn'Qiraj - Trash
Red Qiraji Resonating Crystal - Temple of Ahn'Qiraj - Trash

Level 70

Instances
Reins of the Raven Lord - Sethekk Halls - Anzu (Heroic)
Swift White Hawkstrider - Magisters' Terrace - Kael'thas Sunstrider (Heroic)

Raids
Fiery Warhorse's Reins - Karazhan - Attumen the Huntsman
Ashes of Al'ar - The Eye (Tempest Keep) - Kael'thas Sunstrider

Level 80

Instances
Reins of the Blue Proto-Drake - Utgarde Pinnacle - Skadi the Ruthless (Heroic)
Reins of the Bronze Drake - The Culling of Stratholme - Infinite Corruptor (Heroic)

Raids
Reins of the Grand Black War Mammoth - Vault of Archavon (All 4 Bosses)
Reins of the Azure Drake - The Eye of Eternity - Malygos
Reins of the Blue Drake - The Eye of Eternity - Malygos
Reins of the Black Drake - The Obsidian Sanctum - Sartharion (3 Drakes - 10)
Reins of the Twilight Drake - The Obsidian Sanctum - Sartharion (3 Drakes - 25)
Reins of the Onyxian Drake - Onyxia's Lair - Onyxia
Mimiron's Head - Ulduar - Yogg-Saron (No Watchers - 25)
Invincible's Reins - Icecrown Citadel - The Lich King (Heroic - 25)

Level 85

Instances
Reins of the Drake of the North Wind - The Vortex Pinnacle - Altairus
Reins of the Vitreous Stone Drake - The Stonecore - Slabhide
Swift Zulian Panther - Zul'Gurub - High Priestess Kilnara (Heroic)
Armored Razzashi Raptor - Zul'Gurub - Bloodlord Mandokir (Heroic)
Amani Battle Bear - Zul'Aman (Timed Reward)

Raids
Reins of the Drake of the South Wind - Throne of the Four Winds - Al'Akir
Flametalon of Alysrazor - Firelands - Alysrazor
Smoldering Egg of Millagazor - Firelands - Ragnaros
Experiment 12-B - Dragon Soul - Ultraxion
Reins of the Blazing Drake - Dragon Soul - Deathwing
Life-Binder's Handmaiden - Dragon Soul - Deathwing (Heroic - 10/25)

Level 90

Instances - None

World Boss
Reins of the Heavenly Onyx Cloud Serpent - Kun-Lai Summit - Sha of Anger
Son of Galleon's Saddle - Valley of the Four Winds - Galleon
Reins of the Thundering Cobalt Cloud Serpent - Isle of Thunder - Nalak
Reins of the Cobalt Primordial Direhorn - Isle of Giants - Oondasta

Raids
Reins of the Astral Cloud Serpent - Mogu'shan Vaults - Elegon
Spawn of Horridon - Throne of Thunder - Horridon
Clutch of Ji-Kun - Throne of Thunder - Ji-Kun

Comment by 1068597

GG the mount dropped for me in my first time soloing it! :D

Comment by Allecto

I was flying this after I used Aqua Jewel, and found that whilst it still made the mount almost invisible, the long pink trails the mount leaves behind are still as bright as normal. I felt a bit like I was flying a firework.

Comment by Grayswindir

Just had to drop by, last week the Reins of the Onyxian Drake dropped for me and just tonight these dropped for me as well. I've been farming both for years. Man oh man, I am freaking STOKED! GL to all those farmers out there, it will come! Dont worry!

Comment by Gexora

Second kill since patch 5.2, i got my Ashes of Al'ar! =) Thanks Blizz! Finally

Comment by samellis

The long-term chances of the mount dropping for you at LEAST once are: (assuming you solo Kael every week and that the 2.1% drop chance from wowhead is accurate)

6 months - 40%
1 year - 67%
18 months - 78%
2 years - 89%
5 years - 99.97%

If you don't get one after 5 years then you need to ask your mother if you were cursed as a child.
(If you're killing him on multiple characters every week then just divide the times by how many characters you do it on, eg if you did it on 5 toons every week you'd have 99.97% chance of seeing at least one drop in the first year)

Comment by Exidion90

Hey community,It droped for me first timedoing it,i wanted to try if i had a chance with my blood dk,first time doing TK it droped for me i was socked ,,,,and still i am ...gl for thouse who farm it. :)

Comment by rezzax

This have dropped 3 times in a row now for me. Think it has a higher drop rate

Comment by Bweeda

With the mount drop % increased, this mount has become a lot more common. Not a lot, maybe one or two here and there, but overall it says "bragging rights" all over it for you friends and guildies. Congratz to all those who recieved this, and those who are still going at it.

Comment by Lentesh

Got mine tonight while soloing as an ele sham. I did notice something different, during the last phase when he raises up into the air and the big animation is happening he spawned a Pheonix, i killed it and the egg it spawned before the animations finished and he became attackable again. I'm not saying this had anything to do with it or a sign, but who know...?

Lentesh

Comment by rogrogg

I decided to run KT for the first time ever (on my current main, ran it a few times back in BC) today for a chance at the mount.

Got it.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/tichondrius/Rrog/achievement#81:a885

Either the drop rate has increase significantly or got lucky.

Comment by shimmybee

Yes, this legendary mount is beautiful, and is a treasure to own... but the constant noise of its wings flapping drives me insane!

Comment by Terrassen

The second most respected older schooled mount in the game after the Qiraji wartank, which's spirit is now completely destroyed by the mindless farming by every casual.

Comment by ChilaKIlla

just got last night took a while but worth it :)

Comment by 265430

I decided to start farming for this beauty a week ago, once I learned that you can already solo this place.
Today, I was soloing the place as a holy paladin. It was a pain tbh. I even wiped near the end and had to go again. I didn't even expect the mount to drop, the chance is ridiculous after all. The boss was down and I looked through the loot. Nothing...nothing...nothing...WAIT WHAT? Ashes of Al'Ar, the dream mount has dropped and I'm the only one in the group!

Can't remember being this excited over a game. Goodluck to everybody farming for it, it's amazing!

Comment by MidniteDestiny

Just got mine today at 11:15pm On the server of Eredar Horde side :) Might ass I been farming it for the past 3 years so it was worth the wait :)

Comment by 951363

I just got this mount yesterday on my hunter. It was my 11th run on this character, but i also soloed it on two other toons each week. Funny thing is, my brother was standing behind me when i opened the loot window.

Comment by 1111977

After a year of doing the tempest keep 25 raid finally it dropped for me! as you would expect over the moon:) So yes can confirm it still drops but at times ive been starting to doubt if you could even get the mount anymore, so glad i proved myself wrong =p

Comment by DragonsBlood

"Sold on the Black Market".

This should be a crime :))

Comment by holyalliance

got this mount on about 12th attempt...2nd time on about 50th attempt and third time on 58th i think... so roughly 3 times in 58 attempts...kinda lucky...lol

Comment by 986780

just dropped for me as i was livestreaming on twitch.tv......also note in the video i allmost killed him before his second phase....kind of strange....http://www.twitch.tv/mikeailey/c/2136433

Comment by 1114195

This mount dropped for me after 4 runs (soloing) lucky me:)

Comment by Swarovsky

Today I pwn Kael solo from the first try as 90 lvl prot warrior 498 ilvl. No ashes but I will try and try. Good luck to all of us.

Comment by vukovikdjvs

After 5 years of farming on more then 11 characters, I FINALLY GOT THIS ASHES IN MY 431 RUN. Good Luck to all farming it.

Comment by IceWolfDK

Dropped Ashes of A'lar today after 15 solo attempts of Tempest Keep. I saw it twice before I started to solo Tempest Keep.

Comment by 1115289

I just made an account to post that today, after years of farming, this mount finally dropped for me. After essentially accepting the fact that I would never get it, running TK became more of a habit than anything. While raiding during BC, I saw 3 mounts drop out of 7 kael kills, then never again until today.

It's everything I hoped it would be and more. Don't give up!

Edit: After getting my mount, my boyfriend pretty much decides "oh that's pretty, let me try" and got it on his first run.
Yeah...

Comment by Alfa

GOT IT!

Funny thing is, I didn't even know I looted it until I was clearing out my bags in my looking-for-raid group aha So derpy, considering I was looking at what I looted in chat channel, yet I passed it because I was looking for "Reins of the ..." like almost all of the other mounts.

Goodluck to all

Comment by Gartax

Well, after 74 runs... I can now finally call this mount mine. Congrats to all the other people who had to work along time to get this beauty. And if you have yet to get it, don't worry! Every Tuesday i doubt myself and finally it dropped. :D

Comment by 1118256

I got it just now with my Mistwaever, ilvl 507, after doing it for about 50 attempts.
I use Spinning Crane Kick to finish the trash. Use Touch of Death to one-shot the Grand Astromancer Capernian. Use Tiger Palm, , Blackout Kick and Crackling Jade Lightning to kill Kael'thas. Use less than 10 min to finish all of them. So happy!

Comment by Yogthsothoth

I've rode this thing for months now and while I'm not bored ot it quite yet...when I notice the downrates, buttrage and general childish anger over unlucky people..I will NEVER fly around on another mount. Stay mad <3

Comment by FrozenIvee

I just got mine today May 7, 2013. :) 12:07 am. On my 2nd attempt. Ezra, I'm gonna ride this mount in your honor. r.i.p. lil bro. Now I can see why everyone want this phoenix so bad, It just trumped all my other mounts.

Comment by nirra

Every other wing flap it opens its mouth.

Comment by 1064899

I just got this today while soloing on my paladin, i'd say somewhere about 10-15 runs. Nearly crapped myself when i saw it.

Also, to help with the all the stuns and ccs phase 3 leaves, what I did (found this online somewhere) was I took each one during phase 1 to different corners of the room. The first 2, thaladred and the bloodhammer guy, went all the way to the back. The engineer and mage were on the side of the room Kael is in. Then on phase 3, I killed mage, engineer, and the next 2 don't really matter, at least for me.

Also, on a side note, I also got the white hawkstrider a few days beforehand while farming for the phoenix pet. Kael just really liked me this week I guess. Good luck on this!

Comment by 1090548

Has anyone solo'd this on a Feral Druid? If so, do you have any tips for me? I'm currently lvl 88. Thanks muchly :)

Comment by bostonvince

My guildy got her's today and linked it to me so I went to try it and it dropped for me as well. My heart skipped a beat!

Comment by Akitnaya

I was super nervous about 2-manning this raid w/my bf who's a 90 Desto lock & I, a 90 BM hunter but at ilvl 504 for him & 506 (at the time, i'm at 511 now,) it was easier than I expected. We burned through the trash mobs easy, then burned through Al'ar pretty easy as well.

What surprised me was that when we got to Void Reaver, he shoots you up in the air & I hit deterrence & lived but my bf obviously doesn't have that so he got shot high up & died when he came back down. Maybe pull boss near a wall to avoid crash landing to your death if you can't do deterrence, slow fall or levitate.

High Astromancer Solarian was an easy take down. No problems at all.

Now onto the last boss. I was sure I was gonna die. Because I read on here how hard it is because of all the phases & fighting all the bosses at the same time in Kael'thas Sunstrider's room. It wasn't as bad as I had thought. Killing the advisors 1 by 1 was pretty easy, fighting the weapons was pretty easy. Fighting all the resurrected advisors was pretty easy. But when we started fighting Kael'thas Sunstrider, we got to the part where he turns everyone against you & he turned my bf & my pet & stampede against me & I was down to half health but it ended fast enough so I survived & just burned him down.

Mount didn't drop but it was our 1st attempt so I'm not too sad. At least now I know how to do it.

Comment by 1124731

Let me clear this up once and for all ! Ashes of Al'ar's drop rate is approximately 2%. It is based on the # of times Kaelthas Sunstrider is killed on the server, not on the # of times you kill him. Consider a 50 sided die numbered 1 to 50. Every time you roll it, there is a 2% chance that your # will come up. But you have to consider the fact that a whole bunch of people are killing him each week. So, realistically it's not really 2% for you, it's 2% based on everyone killing him on your server.

Comment by kardanis

I dont consider myself lucky in wow but I got this mount on my 22nd solo run. Since patch 5.3. I 've been farming the battle pets from the old world. Another time I stopped by Kael to give a try on the mount drop. I was really suprised when I found the mount among a few old epics. Knowing my luck i think the drop chance has been increased. I also see more and more people around with this mount.
As for the boss I think it is surely soloable by pretty much every DPS lvl90.
I have no problem on my frost mage. The most challenging part is the return of the adds x4 with all their CCs. I summon my mirror images and just burn down the adds ASAP. Right after that part its' better ti dismis pets to prevent MC from the boss resetting the whole event. For the same reason I suggest to solo this fight. Extra person can be a reason for the hassle with Mind Control during the very last stage.

Comment by 16580

I think I have done this raid 1 time before, so I decided to do it for fun with a buddy, and this mount drops, he rolled higher than me tho : ( I will farm this mount from now on tho.

http://i.imgur.com/EAbctbs.jpg

Comment by 885968

hi, i would like to know if this is a drop just by killing the boss? Or do you have to keep a phoenix alive etc?

Comment by Lyuath

6/19/2013 - Getting the ashes is definitely a reason to cheer!

Comment by freckleface

This mount just dropped for me, and it was my first time running TK.

Comment by Rtucci

Just dropped for me on my first solo kill of Kael. Just came back to the game after about a 6 month break. I used to farm this with a friend all the time and never saw it. So happy. Arms warrior, 463 equipped ilvl, 510 weapon. Was extremely easy to solo.

Comment by budrickton

It took somewhere between 80 and 120 kills over the years (I estimate), between progression kills and recent solo kills on three different characters, but I was elated to finally see this drop tonight. So very happy!

Comment by Calenia

Has anyone seen this drop since mists? I have been grinding this since wrath and have not seen it once. Beginning to think I am just wasting my time...

Comment by TheeObserver

Dropped for me a couple days ago on my first solo kill ever, 6th kill of him in all. Ilvl 503 DK dps with 510 wep also. Fiery Warhorse dropped for me same day after 4 kills of Attumen

Comment by 600847

Did it again on my dk with still no luck, guess i'll be trying it on my shaman tonight. wish me luck :)

Comment by 1131778

drop chance 2.02%, what the heck, why so low,u can then play wow till it ends and never get it

Comment by 927889

I got it in my first try today ^_^
Happy farming!

Comment by angeldefury

They have DEFINITELY buffed this drop rate. Along with some other things like onyxian drake etc. I just got this on my first solo farm as a hunter today and several others in my guild have gotten it within the past month or so. 2 people even both got Onyxia mount in same day. Don't give up hope, keep at it!

Comment by sylar1986

did aprox 25 kills across all my charcters before i got the drop today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaDp6ZHYDwA not thinking i didn't hit record until just after the kill but good luck to all still trying :)

Comment by 1131778

seems like on Kazzak eu realm every 3rd 90 has this, gg not rare anymore

Comment by 1131778

Kazzak eu realm horde has tons of this mount, guess not rare anymore

Comment by kernal

ok, so is it bad that I ran tempest keep for the first time ever after hitting lvl 90 for the first time same day and got the mount on first run ever! like whaaaaaaaaaaaat! don't belive me look at my achievments, name is kernel on fizz'crank realm, if u look at dates of both achievments (complete tempest keep) & (ashes of al'ar) you will notice they are both completed on 7/19/13 I orig just went in for completion achievement but got super lucky what are the chances! w0000t!

Comment by Brooulon

Drops off of Kael'Thas the Sunstrider in Tempest Keep, Got mine today after only 18 kills C:

Comment by Frankyzappa

I'm seeing a lot of comments about this not being rare anymore or the droprate was supposedly increased. You see more of these mounts now simply because Kael'thas is being killed more than ever. Any decently geared level 90 character can now kill Kael'thas with some ease, the only difficult phase for most being the four advisor phase with it's stunlock goodness.

Comment by jaskasd

Is this only for heroic? and can i get this from 10man or just 25man?

Comment by benx2011

i have been farming this since MoP came out with all my toons every week. i have all classes in the horde and some in the alliance. total 15 level 90 characters. none of the toon gets the mount.

Comment by Gnomzie

About 180 kills in total and it finally dropped... :)

Comment by Varinn

today i decided to start farming this beuty of a mount and so i read about it and watched a few videos then tried my first run but sadly no mount.

i told my girlfriend how simple it is to farm and she asked to show her on a alt and so i did but i said if the mount drops i'll need lol.. and so we did it and guess what the mount dropped! i rolled 59 she rolled 99.. her first time and she got the mount! i offered all my golds which was about 60k but no she flew into the sunset and left me sulking :(

Comment by 1136340

Today was my first attempt and low and behold the mount dropped! I wish I was as lucky with all the other mount drops.

Comment by nick31896

First run today, and it dropped.

Sadly I lost the roll,
to everyone farming this, good luck and persevere, it looks amazing and well worth the effort

Comment by 549975

I've all but given up on this mount. Been farming it week after week for the past 5 months..

Comment by Krylee3

08/06/2013 after 1 year of farming each week and soloing the raid instance it dropped.

It was on my bucket list although it is still not my favorite. Just something I wanted to add to my collection.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Krylee/achievement#81:a885

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/51955 is still my favorite to this day.

Comment by Edeard

Got myne today after year's of farming on different chars. It does drop people!

Comment by Zwizzer

Dropped 6th of August for me and extremly lucky friend.
(his first run and of course he wins it).
The next week it dropped again, never in my life have I felt luckier.

There is hope!

Comment by ucplayer

70 kills and nothing yet...
I'm losing hope.

Comment by teq99

Got the mount after 6 tries. My new favorite mount :)
I didn't kill alar only the other bosses maybe it helps? Not sure. Or just luck...

Comment by SaltLB

Mount dropped on the 15th of August, 2013. After coming back to the game from a 3 year hiatus in April, this was my number one priority. Here's a list of what went on during the time I was farming:

* Leveled main character (priest) to 90, immediately started farming for the mount. As a priest, Kael was incredibly easy, even with good gear at level 90. The ability to use the staff at that time was the most important though, especially with alternate characters whose gear was not up to par. That is due to a DPS and sustain issue if the staff class did not have a heal (i.e. hunter).

* Leveled a second alt (DK) to 90. The DK I had a bit of trouble with at first due to the fact that I could not use the staff and had poor gear (<480 avg). I noticed that without being able to use the staff, I could not even survive in blood. After attaining a gear level over 480, I was able to burn down everything rather quickly in frost spec, with a few potions of course, and in blood, it just took slightly longer. If you go for the mount as a DK, it's important to note that Army of the Dead is an incredibly useful spell when Kael revives his companions. They usually attacked Capernian so that was an excellent distraction while killing the others. Also, on the note of burning bosses, the level 90 talent Desecrated Ground, provides 10 seconds of free character control, so use that effectively. One should also note that Desecrated Ground does not stop the knockback effects of Capernian's nova so be advisable and use line-of-sight tricks found at the bottom of this page.

* Leveled a third alt (druid) to 90. The Druid class went about the same as priest. You can use either feral or balance (never tried bear) and it doesn't really matter because the sustain is excellent for the content level and druids can wield staves.

* Leveled a fourth alt (paladin) to 90. The Paladin class was by far the hardest. In fact, I could not even get past stage 3 (resurrection stage) simply because the CC was too much for me to handle. I tried almost everything I could think of, including bubbling and burning down Caperian, focusing all ranged attacks, including the level 90 talent on Capernian, and various kill combinations. The most amount of advisers I was able to kill was 2, sanguinar and telonicus, before Kael came out and the double conflageration type CC stopped me from acting. It should be noted that I was in PvP gear (mostly Malevolent, 1/4 tyrannical), however, I don't think it would have made much of a difference.

* Leveled a fifth alt (monk) to 90. The monk was a bit more interesting in trying to go for the mount as she seemed to take much more damage than any other class I was using aside from the Paladin. Like the DK, the monk ability "storm,earth, and fire" helped out significantly because it distracted Capernian while I burned down the other advisers in stage 3. Another ability that I found useful was touch of karma. You can save that one for Kael if you want, but I found that I got a lot more damage out of it in Stage 3. It is advisable to save your tiger's eye brew for when it reaches ten stacks, not only for the damage buff, but because it heals as well. When my health was low, I'd start healing with the spheres and if it was still low at the end of that heal, I would pop energizing brew and be at full health no problem. I was able to kill Kael with my monk at an ilvl of about 470

* Leveled a sixth alt (hunter) to 86. No attempts made.

Some things to note about the Kael fight:

Stage 1: You fight the four Advisers, Thaladred the Darkener, Lord Sanguinar, Grand Astromancer Capernian, and Master Engineer Telonichus

Stage 2: You fight the Legendary Weapons that Kael summons

Stage 3: Y