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Reins of the Crimson Water Strider

Item Level 90
Binds when picked up
Unique
Mount (Account-wide)

Use: Teaches you how to summon this mount. This mount can walk on water in non-battleground areas.
Requires Level 90
Requires Journeyman Riding
Requires Nat Pagle - Honored

Vendor: Nat Pagle
Zone: Frostwall
Faction: Nat Pagle - Honored
Cost: 100

"Normally bugs are for bait, but how could you look into its eyes and even think that?" -Nat Pagle

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Comment by Wolf17

One of five mounts which are reward for gaining Exalted with The Anglers, here are all of them

Reins of the Azure Water Strider - IMG
Reins of the Crimson Water Strider - IMG
Reins of the Golden Water Strider - IMG
Reins of the Jade Water Strider - IMG
Reins of the Orange Water Strider - IMG

Looks like we will be able to fish from it, since it is fishing faction. (It is just my opinion)
Hope this helps.

Comment by Corveroth

Only the Reins of the Azure Water Strider are in-game, through Exalted reputation with The Anglers in Krasarang Wilds.

The other four colors of this mount, though available from the same vendor during beta, are currently unavailable.

Comment by Stok3d

There are currently 10x mounts listed on one's armory that are not live. This mount is one of them and can be seen below. Feel free to review the updated status of all 350+ mounts in the game in Mount Collecting: The Completionist Guide

Comment by vegard101

available in WOD from Fishing in your Fishing shack level 3 garrison, If you decide do choose it you can find coins or let the fish go, You can purchuase some really cool items, The Mount cost 100coins, Was dataminded in Mist Of Pandaria Beta.

Comment by Kaidelair

Why? Because it's RED!

Comment by DXSolar

It's just a really big version of Glimmer. I like it!

Comment by Shenoto

So, no one's going to comment how absolutely and deathly hard it is to farm Nat Pagle's Lucky Coins and how absolutely messed up it is even the idea of 100 of those? I'm not sure I want to farm it just in case it becomes extremely easy to farm, much like so many things in this game.

Consider the ~1% drop rate of a Lunker (Elsanglin says perhaps a tiny bit higher). The Lunker to Coin ratio is 1:1. That's one hundred Lunkers. That's approximately 10,000 fish. Each cast could average out to ~10 seconds, 10x10,000 is 100,000 seconds. How many minutes in 100,000 seconds is 1666.66 minutes. How many hours in that, 27. I even went easy on you, and you're looking at 27 hours of continuous non-interrupted fishing. If you add in human errors, space between fishes, 1 second extra per fish. 1 second becomes 10,000 seconds. THAT'S ANOTHER 2.77 HOURS! YOU'RE LOOKING AT DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY OF FISHING AND FISHIES, ALL FOR WHAT? AND THEN, TO TOP IT OFF, BLIZZARD COULD NERF IT ANY SECOND OF ANY DAY AND EVERY KID AND HIS GRANDMA HAS ONE OF THESE MOUNTS, LIKE SO MUCH SALT IN YOUR SOUP, IT KILLS EVEN A SEA OTTER, WHO HAS THE LARGEST LIVER IN THE WORLD; SO LARGE THEY CAN DRINK NOTHING BUT SEA WATER AND LIVE. BUT NOT YOUR SOUP! CRY IN TO YOUR SALTY SOUP WITH SALTY TEARS MADE EVEN SALTIER BY DRINKING THE SALTY SOUP, CREATING A BLACK HOLE OF SALT THAT CONSUMES EVERYTHING YOU'VE EVER LOVED, EXCEPT SALT.

Comment by Nazgul13

This thing needs to be able to walk on lava, come on blizzard.

Comment by jjholt

Notes

The catch rates, percentages and any other information only include Enormous fish caught. Fishing poles, average or small sized fishes and lures are completely disregarded by all statistics provided below.
Out of the about 30 hours spent fishing, only about 4 h had a fishing skill of 905. The rest of the time fishing skill level was 950+.

Overview:

Total Fish Caught: 7.178
Total Fishing time (hours): ~ 31h 30 min
Average Fishing Rate p/hour: 227,75
Total Lunkers: 103
Lunker p/hour: 3.27
Lunker catch rate: 1.43%

Interesting Catches:
Found 1 Goren Garb from Abyssal Gulper Eels
Found 1 Hightfish Cap from Blind Lake Sturgeons

Breakdown per school:

Abyssal Lunker:
Average fish per hour: 227,37
Time spent: 14h 20 min
Total Lunkers caught: 46

Blind Lake Sturgeon:
Average fish per hour: 233,55
Time spent: 9h 14 min
Total Lunkers caught: 27

Fire Ammonite:
Average fish per hour: 143.96
Time spent: 1 h 6 min
Total Lunkers caught: 2
Notes: Unless these sell really well on your server, or you need the materials specifically, I would advise against fishing these.

Blackwater Whiptail:
Average fish per hour: 215,63
Time spent: 0 h 32 min
Total Lunkers caught: 5

Fat Sleeper:
Average fish per hour: 253,31
Time spent: 1h 03 min
Total Lunkers caught: 5

Catches where the school were not recorded:
Average fish per hour: 224,94
Time spent: 5h 34 min
Total Lunkers caught: 18

Comment by robbiedehand

They REALLY need to let us fish when mounted on this :(

Comment by Haramashu

When Nat Pagle comes to visit you, this does not increase the chance to the fish to be caught (which has been talk in trade for a while).
Basically do as he says.... Relax and have a cold one.. Its going to be a long wait...
Having a lure for the the area you are fishing in does seem to increase the drop rate by 0.5% from what I have fished so far. Currently on 76 Coins...Many more hours to go.

Comment by aaroli

Hello everyone!

This is my first lenghtier post here so please excuse me if I miss any useful information.

I thought that obtaining this mount would be a fun yet mindless challenge for me, and I might as well share my results every now and again for everyone to read while I'm at it. I've decided to approach this grind with a 5 lunkers/day mindset whenever I feel like fishing and have the time. I won't be posting time spent fishing or the quantities of different kinds of fish caught, but rather the total amount of items caught per 5 lunkers and different fishing locations (if they vary).

I'm currently sitting at 10 coins so far (Fire Ammonite Lunkers), so if I ever get to a 100 coins, I'll add an average of those 10 to the total number of items caught.

My usual fishing equipment consists of:

But I will be using the following when ever possible (I have personally not found any evidence proving that fishing skill affects lunker catch rate (I will correct this if proven otherwise)):

Ephemeral Fishing Pole
Tentacled Hat
Hightfish Cap
Sharpened Tuskarr Spear
Captain Rumsey's Lager

I've just now finished fishing my first 5 lunkers after starting to write this post.

Session 1 (Dec 8th) - Total number of items caught per 5 lunkers: 520

- 3 x Fire Ammonite Lunker caught in Frostfire Ridge, The Burning Glacier: 43.9, 67.3.
- 2 x Blackwater Whiptail Lunker caught in Talador, Terokkar Refuge: 69.9, 58.6.

I chose these spots just for the convenience. The Fire Ammonite Lunker spot is just to the West of your (Horde) Garrison. Agurak's Fall would be an ideal alternative for the Alliance. As for the Blackwater Whiptail Lunker spot, well, to be perfectly honest, I've enough Fire Ammonite Tentacle to last the whole expansion so I just took a flight path closest to fishable water. So far the only thing that's changed is the scenery.

Session 2 (Dec 8th) - Total number of items caught per 5 lunkers: 233

- 3 x Blackwater Whiptail Lunker caught in Talador, Terokkar Refuge: 69.9, 58.6. (Same spot as previously)
- 2 x Jawless Skulker Lunker caught in Gorgrond, Evermorn Springs: 42.9, 79.3. I did not stay in Bastion Rise, for the Rivermallows there started to get on my nerves pretty quickly.

To me it looks like the Sharpened Tuskarr Spear does not increase my chances to fish lunkers. It has such a short uptime I got 4/5 of the lunkers without the buff. Obviously I got incredibly lucky with these 5. I still need to fish a lot more before I can come to any conclusions. I'll continue fishing for the first 3 in Gorgrond, and move to the Spires of Arak afterwards.

Session 3 (Dec 8th) - Total number of items caught per 5 lunkers: 502

- 3 x Jawless Skulker Lunker caught in Gorgrond, Evermorn Springs: 42.9, 79.3. (Same spot as previously)
- 2 x Abyssal Gulper Lunker caught in Spires of Arak, Spires of Arak: 26.4, 24.8. This place is secluded and beautiful. The waters near Crow's Crook can be crowded and that might be a bad thing if you're on a PvP server (although fishermen most often just wish to focus on their own objective), or if you're like me, you enjoy being left alone to relax. Apexis Excavation's waters are too narrow and shallow to guarantee landing your bobber in the water.

The ratios compared between the 3 sessions are peculiar indeed. The results so far suggest that the best zone for fishing up lunkers would be Talador. Of course, such a statement is grosely speculated, and more data is required.

Session 4 (Dec 8th) - Total number of items caught per 5 lunkers: 433

- 3 x Abyssal Gulper Lunker caught in Spires of Arak, Spires of Arak: 26.4, 24.8. (Same spot as previously)
- 2 x Blind Lake Lunker caught in Shadowmoon Valley, The Nightmarsh: 40.6, 49.6. There was a cute little pond in Gloomshade Grove 37.0, 25.4 but apparently it is located too close to the Alliance Garrison and, sure enough, I was quickly becoming surrounded by members of the Alliance. I would also advise against The Shimmer Moor located in the South-Eastern part of Shadowmoon Valley. I spent a hefty amount of time there without catching a single lunker. Only after I switched to The Nightmarsh did I catch my first Blind Lake Lunker.

Session 5 (Dec 9th) - Total number of items caught per 5 lunkers: 421

- 3 x Blind Lake Lunker caught in Shadowmoon Valley, The Nightmarsh: 40.6, 49.6. (Same spot as previously)
- 2 x Fat Sleeper Lunker caught in Nagrand, Wor'var: 84.3, 44.9. What can I say? I'm always on the lookout for traditional and sensible places to fish from, and there isn't a sight more traditional than a fisherman on a bridge. Granted it's a crummy bridge but in WoW I'll take any bridge possible! Also, I should note that this is most likely a Horde only spot. Telaar would be a great alternative for the Alliance.

Session 6 (Dec 11th) - Total number of items caught per 5 lunkers: 312

- 3 x Fat Sleeper Lunker caught in Nagrand, Wor'var: 84.3, 44.9. (Same spot as previously)
- 2 x Fire Ammonite Lunker caught in Frostfire Ridge, Agurak's Fall: 83.5, 71.6. I wanted to find the alternative spot for the Alliance to fish Fire Ammonite Lunker, and anywhere in Agurak's Fall seems quite optimal. If you're concerned about the leveling Horde parrers-by there are plenty of elevated platforms to fish from. The scenery's kind of dull, and I seem to be having the worst luck right now with "Internal Bag Error"s; I've lost 3 lunkers today, boo. The MOTD would be: "Before you get overly excited over your reeled in lunker make sure you are able to loot it, too!".

I'm definitely starting to feel reluctant to fish. You might want to complete this task over a longer period of time, say, a few months. I just need closure.

Comment by robbiedehand

If you interested in getting this mount and also in Sea Turtle Riding Turtle i suggest fish for Lunarfall Carp Frostdeep Minnow wich summon Frostdeep Cavedweller or Lunarfall Cavedweller wich not only can drop the 2 turtle mounts but also have a chance on Nat's Lucky Coin. Got 6 coins atm personally from them after 35 kill that doesnt seem much but if you want all the mounts you better take this route and save you possibly alot of lunkers to catch.

Comment by neilwato

Am I missing something? I already have <a href="#" rel="item=81354">Reins of the Azure Water Strider</a>. Is this only a color change of that mount? Is there something better about it?

Comment by wcclash

I'm going to add my experience and suggestions after finally getting this mount. First I would highly recommend getting an addon that allows double click fishing with your mouse. I was able to get between 270 and 280 catches an hour while sipping my favorite beverage. I used Fishing Buddy which also allows you to track your catch count, % and other features. Next, take your time. I would fish a maximum of an hour at a time, but mostly get to 100 catches and stop. Sometimes I would get 1- 3 lunkers, sometimes nothing. Most of the time I got 1. The mistake I made was I got to 85 coins and tried to finish. I got frustrated after hours of fishing because there were times I would go 300 fish with nothing.
Next, there have been some posts suggesting using an alcoholic beverage on your character would increase your chances since when Nat visits you he advises to have patience and beer. I tested it out on thousands of casts with or without Captain Rumsey's Lager . The drop rate for lunkers was about the same, around 1.3%. Nat also tells you to never fish without a cooler, so I got an Advanced Refrigeration Unit. No difference. Finally, remember if you were like me and had zero rep with Nat Pagle (you need to be best friends with him in order to purchase the mount), 100 lunker turn-ins for coins will only garner you 35000 (350 rep per turn-in) of the over 42000 rep needed, so you will either have to fish up some more lunkers, or do some fishing in Krasarang Wilds with Nat's dailies: Flying Tiger Gourami Spinefish Alpha and Mimic Octopus.
I just wanted to add, that if you use Fishing Buddy, turn off auto loot on your interface, but leave auto loot on the addon. At least for me, it seemed to loot a lot faster.

Comment by JamesDevlin

Abashera’s Lunker Fishing Journal

I noticed that a few people have said they averaged approximately three fish per hour. Other people have lamented that "the drops are dismal," pointing out that they've been at it for an hour or two with no catches.

Rather than take guesstimates of how many lunkers drop per hour, I decided to turn on my Stopwatch and record the amount of time that had past between each lunker catch, so as to get a more accurate idea of DROPS-PER-HOUR … which I believe is what the average person wants to know… “How long is it going to take me to get my mount and/or pet?”

This is the purpose of this journal, to get an accurate idea of how long it takes to get 100 lunkers for Nat’s mount. This way, players can plan their fishing schedule accordingly. (Note: This journal is not however to figure out the drop-rate of lunkers, which is determined by the number of lunkers per cast, which percentage wowhead has already data-mined).

I also notice some debate on wowhead as to whether or not “…(beer) really brings in the big catch,” as Nat Pagle suggests in his dialogue. I have to admit that when I read that, I too thought Blizzard might have added a “beer mechanic” into the game that increases the chances. Therefor, along with logging my catch times, I also split my lunker catches in half: 50 lunkers with Rumsey’s Lager, and 50 without.

Regarding Sample Size: 100 Lunkers may look like a small sample; however, consider too that I caught 10,408 Enormous fish, along with hundreds of smaller fish, bait, lures, etcetera—so the 100 lunkers represent well over 11k casts.

If others want to duplicate this experiment and add their numbers with mine to further increase the accuracy of catches per hour, and , please do. However I’m off to fish up 75 more lunkers for pet and the fishing pole; but I personally won’t be continuing this experiment, the grind is GRUESOME!

I applied bait, while casting, using the following macro:

/use Anglers Fishing Raft
/use Sea Scorpion Bait
/use fire Ammonite Bait
/use Jawless Skulker Bait
/use Blackwater Whiptail Bait
/use Abyssal Gulper Eel Bait
/use Blind Lake Sturgeon Bait
/use Fat Sleeper Bait
/cast Fishing

I hope you will benefit from my records.

LUNKER LOG

Here’s my log of . I rounded each catch to the nearest minute (however I rounded all catches under a minute, up to one minute).

50 LUNKERS WITH RUMSEY BUFF:
a) 13 / 13 / 28 / 1 / 65 / 12 / 64 / 47 / 12 / 6 / 43 / 7 / 2 / 4 / 119 / 26 / 26 / 4 / 8 / 66 / 33 / 77 / 18 / 9 / 15 (= 718)

b) 18 / 27 / 10 / 75 / 11 / 71 / 2 / 131 / 44 / 9 / 3 / 16 / 9 / 52 / 9 / 54 / 2 / 45 / 26 / 45 / 5 / 11 / 22 / 1 / 66 (= 764)

1482m / 50L = 29.65m per Lunker
Approximately two Lunkers per hour.

50 LUNKERS WITHOUT RUMSEY BUFF:
c) 72 / 32 / 61 / 47 / 9 / 1 / 36 / 1 / 12 / 1 / 1 / 8 / 27 / 138 / 34 / 4 / 24 / 30 / 21 / 26 / 47 / 46 / 1 / 5 / 13 (= 697)

d) 50 / 11 / 14 / 8 / 49 / 15 / 1 / 24 / 6 / 12 / 5 / 4 / 28 / 90 / 15 / 51 / 55 / 1 / 61 / 6 / 28 / 23 / 46 / 38 / 39 (= 680)

1377 min. / 50L = 27.54m per. Lunker
Approximately two Lunkers per hour.

GRAND TOTALS - 100 LUNKERS
— 2859min / 100 = 28.59 min. per Lunker
— Approximately two Lunkers per hour = Plan approximately 50 fishing-hours to catch 100 Lunkers

CONCLUSIONS

Captain Rumsey’s Lager didn’t make any difference. In fact the drops were better without it, though marginally, likely due to RNG.

Because Captain Rumsey’s Lager didn’t make a difference, I recommend not using it for the simple reason that 1) obviously, it makes no difference, and 2) you have to stop every three minutes to drink, and that only interrupts your fishing rhythm. For the same reason, I also didn’t apply lures, hooks, or Worm Supreme, it makes you have to stop fishing to apply them, and lures and bait have a to apply. The less time you spend applying buffs that don’t increase your lunker chances, the more times you can Cast & Catch, and the more catches you can pull in per hour… the faster you’ll get your booty! (mount/pet/etc)

So what about Nat’s mention of drinking beer to bring in the big catch?

Nat also says “Don’t EVER go fishing without a cooler.” Are we to conclude that we need to have a Portable Refrigerator in addition to drinking Captain Rumsey’s Lager? And what about the Discarded Lucky Coin, which bears more than a remarkable resemblance to Nat’s Lucky Coin? …I mean, it’s the same icon, and the name is only one word off.

But I would expect a lush to recommend beer and a cooler. Truth is, I don’t think Nat’s a good fisherman (or he’s just too drunk to fish), which is why I have to catch his food for him.

But go ahead and drink the lager if the placebo effect makes you feel good… or for the actual +10 fishing bonus.

THE CATCH

3 Tentacle Hat
6 Highfish Cap
20 Grieffish
31 Ephemeral Fishing Pole
100 Lunkers
157 Sharpened Hooks
174 Worm Surprime
193 “Fragrant” Pheromone Fish
204 Awesomefish
10,408 Enormous Fish

NOTABLE (favorite) FISHING SPOTS

(These are spots where you won’t be interrupted by hostile NPCs)

Frostfire Ridge
36, 38 (Jump to island in middle of lava)

Gorgrond
61, 55 (I prefer darker places)
40, 76 (This spot is the quickest to access for Horde)

Nagrand
72:15 (on raft, under rock overhang)

Shadowmoon Valley
36, 48 (BEAUTIFUL ZONE! Path entrance @ 41:53)
33, 36 (Deep, clear pool)
53, 77 (Drop down waterfall from lvl 100 zone)

Spires of Arak
60, 13 (Note: seems to be the greatest chance for fishing pole and hat - easy to catch 5 poles in one session.)

Talador
72, 63 (By waterfall)
57, 41 (Under bridge by waterfall)

FISHING FACTS

— The Nat Pagle Follower must be assigned to your Fishing Shack to catch Lunkers.

— Lunkers are unique, and only 5 can be caught and owned before needing to return to base and turn them in. Therefor you should figure many garrison trips into your fishing schedule, and whatever else you get caught up doing while you’re there.

— The addon Fishing Buddy is nice, and helps pass the time.

— I fished up between one and six Ephemeral poles per day, and just kept equipping the newest pole.

— My fastest lunker catch was 3 seconds after the first cast; and my longest time between catches was 2 hours and 18 minutes (eternity). If you go over two hours without catching a lunker, it’s just bad RNG. It evens out when you catch two or three within a few minutes or seconds.

— I alternated fishing spots (zones), catching equal amounts of all “enormous” fish types, mainly so I could send them to alts to level fishing through the Fishing Shack dailies.

— Saberfish are the best way to level cooking, I leveled up the cooking skill on four toons, and have more than enough Enormous Crescent Saberfish for the rest of my toons (if they were all lvl 100). I’m even sending some to friends so they can level cooking.

— I did the Pandaria Nat Pagle dailies at the same time, and got my rep from buddy to to Best Friend (exalted) in just four days!

— Nat Pagle is a real putz. Oh, and “GET THE HELL OFF MY RAFT NAT!” If you ever fish in the 1st person view, Nat WILL make you lose a few fish! They should have named him Gnat.

— If you like your friends calling

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