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Comment by 18009

The only listed fish with actual fished data is Old Ironjaw with just 0.1% fished rate...

Comment by ArgentSun

The title is a reference-pun to the fishing quest The One That Got Away.

Comment by Cramerpriest

Does Anyone know if Mr. Pinchy count towards this achievement? I have noticed that on wowwiki it does but it is missing here.

Comment by tmptfate

As the title says, you must "catch" the fish. Buying it off AH or having it in inventory will not be good enough to get the acheivement.

Comment by Xinhuan

You can complete this achievement in the low level starting areas (the level 1-10 ones) by fishing in any inland lakes at Mulgore, Durotar, Elywynn Forest, Dun Morogh, Tirisfal Glades, Azuremyst Isle, Eversong Woods (except unnamed inland areas) and Teldrassil.

The fish to catch for these areas is the 15 Pound Mud Snapper and can be completed at level 5 (minimum level to learn Fishing) without risk of being killed by the enemy faction.

However, the fishing rate of any of these off-hands is approximately 1 in 2000 according to El's Anglin forums. This makes this achievement much harder than Old Crafty or Old Ironjaw, and hence the recommendation to do it in a safe low level starting zone instead of any of the other higher level off-hands in contested zones (unless you are on a PvE server).

Comment by 231672

Currently in bay of storms working on this - 3 hours 20 mins worth of bait into it - 768 catches - no drop yet...

El did the number crunching and figured it to be 1/10000 that any of these fish drops. On the upside, you're odds of catching one of these fish is slightly better than winning $100 playing Powerball (1/11927.18 chance to win $100 in powerball).

On the down side, Leeroy Jenkins and his guild had 3,300 times better chance of survival in the UBRS whelps than you do of catching this fish... and they failed...

This one's gonna take a while...

*EDIT* Yah I totally gave up - other areas have to have a better drop rate. Good luck to anyone still in BOS.

*SECOND EDIT* FYI in HF I am 5 episodes of 24, 4 episodes of American Idol, 1 episode of Lie to Me, the entire 3 hour long Gandhi, all told... 13 hours 30 minutes worth of bait into it and still no Dark Herring... ugh.

*FINAL EDIT* Got it. Was on last night getting ready to log to scrim CS with some friends, caught him and started yelling at the top of my lungs on vent. "I GOT IT! EXPLETIVE FINALLY!" All told, almost 15 hours of bait, and 5 days solid of doing nothing but fishing while I was on WoW. Good luck to everyone else still doing this. It's worth it in the end.

Salty Ohashi <CounterTerroristUnit>
Dentarg Alliance

Comment by 224221

103 Pound Mightfish - Bay of Storms in Azshara
15 Pound Mud Snapper - Inland lakes in starting areas
29 Pound Salmon - ?
52 Pound Redgill - ?
Baby Coralshell Turtle - Northrend
Steelscale Crushfish - Hilsbrad Foothills?
113 Pound Swordfish - Northrend
22 Pound Lobster - ?
32 Pound Catfish - Desolace
68 Pound Grouper - Ferelas
Rockhide Strongfish - Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza

Note: These locations are places they have been caught they may also be found in additional areas.

Comment by rem120

I got lucky and pulled out a 15 Pound Mud Snapper at Crystal Lake near Goldshire after approximately 300 casts over 2 hours.

Comment by 52224

Caught the 15 Pound Mud Snapper at Stillwhisper Pond in Eversong Woods at 352 casts.

Comment by 88730

Crystal lake, 15lb Mud Snapper, about 1300 casts. Easily the most time consuming of the Salty prerequisites.

Comment by 36018

Azhara isn't best place to do this achivmient cause there are 6 kind type of fish - so the % is less than in start zones where only 2 types of fish u can catch.

Comment by jaxsonbateman

Assuming that the RNG rolls a 2000 sided virtual die, having only 2 types of fish doesn't necessarily mean that getting the rare fish is much easier. It simply means that those 2 fish occupy a higher range of numbers; basically, from 2 to 2000, with 1 being the rare fish (assuming that the 1 in 2000 drop rate is the same across all rares).

As such, Ashzara is the best place to do it, because 2 different rares makes it 2 in 2000, or 1 in 1000 - much greater odds. However, until enough information is collected on accurate droprates of these rares, we can't be certain which ones are the easiest and which ones are the most difficult.

Edit: after reading the forums at ElsAnglin (http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/one-that-didnt-get-away-achievement) it seems that Bay Of Storms isn't the best place to fish, and that the two drops there are rarer than others. Stonebull Lake is the popular choice atm. However, I'd like to point out that the logic of "less drop variety = higher chance at fish" is still flawed as Blizzard is always in control of the drop rates, the real manipulator of how rare something is or is not.

Comment by 68432

Note to fishers in Azshara use a lure when fishing.
I have 375 skill +5 from boots, + 37 from weap and +2 from gloves enchant. I got fish got away messages with all my gear equipped at some catches. I really hope that was not one of the rares.

Comment by Sunwind

is there a greater chance of catching rares by fishing in a school?

Comment by ra248

I feel awful bad, I was doing Stranglethorn Extravaganza, and everything was on auto-loot, and suddenly I fish in one of the pools and this achievement randomly pops up, fishing skill like 170, only fished like 2 hrs total ever. Good luck! (BTW i got the rockhide strongfish), and 1 thing, dont go actively searching for this achievement, do other ones and this will come in time!

Comment by 10019

Looks to me like they removed the unknown, suspected WotLK rare fish Baby Coralshell Turtle and 113 Pound Swordfish. But Dark Herring, is that new? I'd still suggest Stonebull Lake for any Horde that wants to try their luck at this early. And for Alliance, I'm assuming Elwynn if you don't want to make the trip? I'm on Lothar US-PVE, so feel free to come keep me company at Stonebull!

Comment by olisc

Stonebull Lake

183 Catches
107 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
77 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
1 Minor Healing Pot
1 10 Pound Mud Snapper

1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

DONT GIVE UP GUYS!

Comment by 17299

Why isn't 17 Pound Catfish listed as one of the rare catches? :|

Comment by 240952

Hi Guys,

this is my first post on this site, thanks for this site its great! Anyways, I think after patch 3.03 they may actually have boosted the drop rates of some if not all of them.

Last night i caught the Mudsnapper (15LB) within 220 casts. I caught many 12LB's.

i was fishing outside of SW in the crystal lake i think thats probably the best place to go and the easiest catch.

The reason why isay they must have boosted the drop rate could because there were a few oother guys fishing there too and we all got the drop within 5mins of each other. We all started about the same time too.

Try crystal lake if your alliance and stonebull if your horde, those are probably the best and easiest places to go.

I know the math isnt exactly science but a number of guildies have caught this achievement since 3.03. And they tried a lot before 3.03 too....

Comment by Hartge

I fished in the frozen lake outside of IF in Dun Morogh, caught myself a 15 lb Mud Snapper in 912 casts.

Comment by 85074

i doubt the drop was increased. i've gotten over 5000 catches now in stonebull lake with no 15punder yet.

Comment by 230008

Just caught a Steelscale Crushfish in Wetlands, while waiting for the boat to theramore.

so to confirm Steelscale Crushfish is a possible drop from Wetlands coastal waters, good luck to all of you out there that are going for this.

*edit for spelling*

Comment by 239542

Caught a 15 pound Mud Snapper. Along the way I caught 310 other fish and 8 smaller pound mud snappers. Fished in the Stormwind starting zone.

Comment by 143888

I've spent 3 hours two days ago in ashzara after around half a dozen hooks and not a single offhand i moved to Bloodhoof village.

My count in Bloodhoof is now well over 6000 casts with no luck
The RNG really doesn't seem to be in my favor. =((
May pick things up tomorrow if i fish for much longer i think my brains might turn into sushi soon =(

I hope people are having better luck then I

-Niria Shu'halo US PvE

Comment by 103093

Similar situation here, I spent hours in Azshara, but when I went down to Bloodhoof I got one within 10 minutes. I realise I'm one of the incredibly lucky, but for what it's worth, my vote goes to the starting areas.

Comment by 82795

I would not be surprised if Blizzard removed this achievement from the overall Accomplished Angler achievement. It is very similar to the Old Crafty or Old Ironjaw, in that it is nothing but dumb luck whether you get the drop or not.

Mr. Pinchy is decently low drop rate but nothing like these other fish. I personally have casted over 2,000 lines and have yet to get this achievement. I have been fishing in the Crystal Lake outside Goldshire.

If anyone suggests something better, I would love to hear it, otherwise you get to stand around waiting for the RNG to bless you for this one.

Comment by Cyst

This is what I got when fishing for 15 Pound Mud Snapper, for the achievement:

Fishing at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore at Loc: 44.3, 61.1 (Just in front of the Fishing Trainer, Uthan Stillwater)

Skill: 375+27 (402)

670 casts:

Brilliant Smallfish - 411 caught: 61.3% drop rate
Longjaw Mud Snapper - 250 caught: 37.3% drop rate
10 Pound Mud Snapper - 5 caught: 0.7% drop rate
12 Pound Mud Snapper - 1 caught: 0.1% drop rate
Minor Healing Potion - 1 caught: 0.1% drop rate
Minor Mana Potion - 1 caught: 0.1% drop rate
15 Pound Mud Snapper - 1 caught: 0.1% drop rate

Note that the drop rates are far from exact, since I didn't have a massive amount of casts.

(Thanks to El's Extreme Anglin' for pointing me towards Stonebull Lake)

Comment by Teshiruu

Baby Coralshell has been removed and replaced with Dark Herring. Can anyone confirm if it comes from Fangtooth Herring Schools?

Comment by 63239

I just fished up a Dark Herring on 11/17/08 from the lake just south of Fort Wildervar, *NOT* from a pool of fish just from the lake itself with a +100 lure.

Comment by 250217

Caught the Dark Herring in Howling Fjord from a Glacial Salmon node.

Comment by 250338

A few minutes ago, I just fished up the Dark Herring, so I now have my "One That Didn't Get Away" achievement! I was fishing in Valgarde (mostly in open water; fishing in schools only when they spawned next to me), and he was my 266th catch/250th cast (not including the less than 5 "Your fish got away!"s). I fished him from a Fangtooth Herring school. Fishing skill is maxed at 450 (and +20 from my pole), and I was not using lures.

The catch breakdown is as follows:

Bonescale Snapper - 108 (40%)
Fangtooth Herring - 95 (35%)
Glacial Salmon - 39 (14%)
Pygmy Suckerfish - 16 (5%)
Crystallized Water - 5 (1%)
Reinforced Crate - 2 (<1%)
Dark Herring - 1 (<1%)

It technically took 250 casts, as the Pygmy Suckerfish is looted alongside other fish.

Best of luck to everyone!

Now, all I need to do is manage to finally win the Extravaganza, and I shall be Salty Pwnica! :)

Comment by 32578

It should be noted that this achievement requires only one out of the ten to complete. I went on for days thinking I had to get every one of them on the list. Guess I should read more often.

Comment by Starkie

I just caught a 22 Pound Catfish in Southshore and was so excited for about 3 seconds, before realizing it doesn't count towards the achievement.

Not rare enough?

Comment by 258654

Don’t fish in Elwyn for this achievement....after wasting half the night here’s what I found....

•Chance to Catch 15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1 in 12, 009 (8.327 x10 ^ -8)
•Total Playing Time Required (Average): 2.302 days (based on my average of 215 casts per hour)
•You’re twice more likely to die in a car accident than catch it on your first cast
•Don’t worry, after you manage to catch it you still have 99.9911% of your life left

Try Valgarde in Northrend...even though the amount of data collected is small, the chances look to be at least 30-50 times better....

Comment by cavitycaulk

I started off at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore, 395 casts later I was bored so I went to sleep. The next day I decided to try for the Dark Herring and went to Howling Fjord. 75 casts in the Fangtooth Herring schools around Winter's Breath Lake and I caught one just a little down the river at 46,24.

Comment by 229345

Just caught a 15 pound mud snapper on my 194th cast in Mulgore. I don't know if I just got really lucky but it seems like the drop rates of rare fish are a lot higher in starting zones.

Comment by 182649

According to a reknown french WoW DB you can also fish the 68 Pound Grouper in Azshara, the French db site records very well fishing locations.

It changes the counter to 3 possible rare fishable in Azshara, I will go fish there and eventually edit in this post my results but that's not really what you are looking for but JudgeHype datas may help you even English users by "hardcoding" the item ID into the sample url below. Hope it helps.

Source used JudgeHype

//EDIT: Ok I finally got the 15 Pound Mud Snapper after 16 catchs in Shadowglen the Night Elf starter zone. Reason I left Azshara was a loot table too big and after 400 tries I had only looted a small pound Lobster. So I looked up on JudgeHype the droprate of smaller pound, I did notice the 15 Pound Mud Snapper at 0.56% on this page and the 12 Pound Mud Snapper at 2.05% on this page, both are in Night Elf starter zone so I started fishing here, the 2th catch was a 12 Pound version and to the 16th catch in Shadowglen I got the 15 Pound version. So my theory, the best location to fish for this achievement a rare from is the location which has the SMALLEST loot table, higher pounds fish seems more difficult to me to cacth like a few of them in azshara were recently added to a loot table that is already well filled, the 15 Pound Mud Snapper is here since more than a year on low level areas and seems the best fish to catch for this achievement, but certainly not fishing in Azshara or Northrend.

Comment by Starkie

I was just here leveling my cooking, in hopes that maybe I'd get lucky and get a rare along the way to knock that achievement out, and all be damned if this didn't make me the most frustrated ever.

I had 260 fishing, plus the Aquadynamic Fish Attractor (+100) and Strong Fishing Pole (+5) making 365.

I would catch about 1-2, and then I would lose about 6 in a row, and then catch another 1-2, rinse and repeat.

I sucked it up to get enough for my cooking, but then departed.

Screw it, I'm going to the starting area, even if the chances of the drop are better because there are 2 different ones, the fact that im missing so much negates that.

I would definitely wait to try this achievement here until you have 375 fishing or more.

Comment by 274623

Out of 102 casts at Mirror Lake in Elwynn Forest, I got the following:
56 Raw Brilliant Smallfish (54.9%)
40 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers (39.2%)
1 Minor Healing Potion (0.01%)
1 12-Pound Mud Snapper (0.01%)
1 15- Pound Mud Snapper (0.01%)

I also was able to skill up decently in Fishing, so it's a fairly peaceful area (read: could also be boring) place to try to get this achievement done.

Good luck to everyone!

Comment by 284558

This is a story about how incredibly time consuming this achivement can be.

I started out after finishing my other achivements thinking this might take a while, ironjaw took me close to 2000 casts back before 3.0 patch, so I thought i knew what i was getting into.

I spent 6500 casts in mulgore and eversong woods, catching around 80 mud snappers at 10 or 12 pounds, but no 15 pound one.

So WOTLK came along and I had other things to do, and put this aside for a while. But I took it up again a couple of days ago, thinking the dark herring was a sure thing!

So far I have spent over 3000 casts at various locations in HF, about half of them in herring pools, and I have yet to see what I'm looking for.

As I type this I'm 50 fish from breaking the magic number of 10 THOUSAND catches for this achivement, which at an average of 15 seconds per catch means over 41 HOURS of time spent fishing only for this achivement.

Let this be a warning for others not favoured by the RNG. This could take a while!

Comment by 285153

I did a ton of reading everywhere I could before I attempted this achievement, and decided on Stonebull Lake. I went there, and tried exactly 2000 attempts, got nothing, and gave up.

The other night I went back, determined, fished 61 attempts, and got my 15 Pounder.

From what I've gathered, that place has the best drop rate, 1/2000. The others range up to 1/7000. Approx.

Go to Stonebull. It'll come up eventually.

Comment by 285473

After reading several comments I decided to try to catch the 15 Pound Mud Snapper for this achievement in Shadowglen, Teldrassil.

Fishing skill 478
113 Casts

Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 74 (65.5%)
Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper: 37 (32.7%)
Minor Mana Potion: 1 (0.9%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1 (0.9%%)

I probably got extremely lucky, but I would still recommend going here as Alliance as there is no horde around, and others have posted lots of success stories in this area.

I will also mention that the exact fishing hole I caught the 15 Pound Mud Snapper was located directly at 57.5, 38.

Good luck everyone :)

Comment by Boothby

- Brightwater Lake in Tirisfal Glades = 500 casts there for 15 pound mud snapper, no luck
- Howling Fjord = 1000 casts for a Dark Herring, no luck
- Gave up for a week
- Stonebull Lake in Mulgore = 1000 casts there for 15 pounder, no luck either
- Stillwhisper Pond in Eversong Woods = 300 casts or so and TA DA, I finally got it.

Best advice I have, don't give up. I was pulling my hair out on this one but eventually got it.

Comment by 259240

Shadowglen seems like a good place to go.

347 casts
Brilliant Smallfish- 209 (60.2%)
Longjaw Mudsnapper- 113 (37.8%)
10 lb Mud Snapper- 3 (0.9%)
12 lb Mud Snapper- 1 (0.3%)
15 lb Mud Snapper- 1 (0.3%)
Minor Healing Potion- 1 (0.3%)
Practice Sword- 1 (0.3%)

Comment by 290415

Fishing at Crystal Lake, Elwynn Forest, to land my 15 Pound Mud Snapper:

Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 267
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 160
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 5
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 2
Minor Healing Potion: 1
Minor Mana Potion: 1
Simple Dagger: 1

Good Luck!

Comment by 235545

I fished in Fort Wildervar for the Dark Herring . After 3k casts and a broken spirit i said screw it "no herring" I then thought i would try the 15 pound mud snapper after reading detailed co ordinates on thottbot. Exactly 66 casts later i landed the 15 pound mud snapper completing the achievement.

location: Crystal Lake
using addon: Simplecoords
exact fishing spot : 46.5. 64.9

from now on ill be giving /salutes to those who go by "Salty".. there tough achievements

Comment by 15042

The way I got this achievement was almost too incredible to be true, I realize after reading comments here. I was tired of buying suckerfish for oils or oils already made so I figured I should just fish em myself. I took up fishing and went to Iceflow Lake.
I prepared my newbie pole with a shiny bauble and placed my first bobber. After a few seconds it splashed and I pulled up a 15 pound Mud Snapper - my first fish ever! At first I thought it was a "first fish" achievement. How wrong I was...
On the other hand, I have been looking for a Time-Lost Protodrake for days, and not even a corpse.
Oh, the power of random!

Comment by 282311

After about 250 or so casts in Howling Fjord I decided to try my luck at Stonebull Lake.

640 Brilliant Smallfish (59.20 %)
421 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper (38.95 %)
10 10 Pound Mud Snapper (0.9251 %)
4 12 Pound Mud Snapper (0.3700 %)
2 Minor Health Potions (0.1850 %)
2 Minor Mana Potions (0.1850 %)
1 Recipe: Swiftness Potion (0.09251%)
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper (0.09251%)

1081 Total Casts

Good luck!

Comment by 59529

Unbelievably, I went to level my fishing from 250 to 300 - I read this whole thread before going, I figured I might as well have a (low) chance of completing this achievement while levelling. Went to Dun Morogh, ready to sit in for a session. I've not fished in the areas where it is possible to catch one of these fish since I was really low level fishing - I sorta figured I'd never have the patience to see this, if I'm honest. 70 catches in...unbelievable. Very lucky obviously. Funny thing is, I also caught Old Ironjaw within my first 300 attempts ^_^

Comment by 293408

I started off outside of undercity to catch the 15 pound mud snapper but after about 600 casts and reading posts here about stonebull lake i decided to move. 267 casts at stonebull and i caught my snapper. :)

Comment by 40804

After 3 days of intermittent casting in Mulgore, these are my numbers:

1515 Total hauls

1478 Brilliant Smallfish and Longjaw Mud Snappers (97.56%)
8 Minor Mana Potions (0.53%)
2 Minor Healing Potions (0.13%)
13 10 Pound Mud Snappers (0.86%)
8 12 Pound Mud Snappers (0.53%)
2 Bloated Smallfish (0.13%)
1 Warrior's Bracers (0.07%)
1 Burnt Leather Boots (0.07%)
1 Burnt Leather Bracers (0.07%)
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper (0.07% or 1 in 1428)

Looks like 1/2000 is a pretty good estimate.

Comment by Sateena

I am at about 3,000 casts of trying to do this achievement. I have mostly been trying for the Dark Herring in the pools in Howling Fjord, though I have tried for several hours in the starting zone waters. While catching various fish to help level my daughter's cooking, I discovered that the river in Hillsbrad yields only mud snappers and catfish. So this got me thinking that this might be the most efficient place to fish for a rare fish, since both mud snapper and catfish can throw rares and you do not have to chase pools around. Of course, this assumes that the rare has a chance to pop in the place of the normal fish, rather than just having a fixed chance to drop.

Comment by wowaddict123

Ive spent about 4700 catches specifically fishing for one of these rare fish and finally caught a 15 pound mudsnapper in Stonebull lake on the 44th catch. Hello Salty! Good Luck everyone!

Comment by Bantu

caught about 1500 fish in howling fjord, no dark herring.
now i went to stonebull lake and finally got it. 141 total:
Brilliant Smallfish (92 : 65.2%)
Longjaw Mud Snapper (43 : 30.5%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper (2 : 1.4%)
Minor Healing Potion (1 : 0.7%)
Minor Mana Potion (1 : 0.7%)
12 Pount Mud Snapper (1 : 0.7%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper (1 : 0.7%)

gl

Comment by 153798

Started off fishing in Moonglade, since I'm a Druid I thought that would be a nice serene and convenient spot. But ~600 fish later and no dice on the 52 Pound Redgill I went to Stonebull Lake on recommendation of the comments here.

236 fish later:

146 Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 61.86%
86 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 36.44%
2 10 Pound Mud Snapper - 0.85%
1 Minor Mana Potion - 0.42%
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper - 0.42%

Obviously the percentages are off because I stopped after I got what I wanted (I'm a poor scientist), but this worked for me, got the whole thing behind me in about an hour and fifteen minutes.

Clearly Lady Luck was on my side for this excursion, but I'd recommend it.

Comment by fibulator

This is what I got when fishing for 15 Pound Mud Snapper, for the achievement:

Fishing at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore at Loc: 44.3, 61.1 (Just in front of the Fishing Trainer, Uthan Stillwater)

I went there at skill 89, I got the 15 pound Mud Snapper the cast after I caught my 100th fish. It was also the same cast I got skill 100. So I think that was 12 casts. I was using absolutely no buffs whatsoever.

I fee sorry for those who spent 41 hours fishing the same spot for this.

Comment by 302913

As a horde hunter went to Teldrassil, Night Elf starting area, Shadowglen and there are 2 pools there next to each other and fished out of them. Has the smallest loot table increasing the chances of looting the rare fish

bout 30 casts later caught 15 Pound Mud Snapper

easy mode! very quite and good luck :D

Trixyy, 80 troll hunter,
Jubie'Thos

Comment by 245415

Went to Shadowglen in Teldrassil as some of you suggested, and caught one of the fishes in less then 40 casts, so try here aswell. May the force be with you.

Comment by tbone844

Stonebull Lake
Skill 570 Kalu'ak Fishing pole /w Eternium Thread, Weather Beaten hat, Nat's Anglin' Boots
Coords 46.50 Mulgore, Jan 15, 2009 11:41am EST

570 Casts in one sitting
185 Brilliant Smallfish
108 Longjaws
3 10lb Mud Snapper
2 Minor Mana pots
2 12lb Mud Snapper
(1) 15 POUND MUD SNAPPER 0.3%

Salty Phileasfogg on Altar of Storms

ps, surfed the net while fishing, and forced myself to think about giving up, then bam, caught it :)

Comment by 295956

887 tries later (In Mulgore) here are the stats:

Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 548
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 320
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 6
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 7
Minor Mana Potion: 4
Journeyman's Belt: 1
Fine Scimitar: 1

No rare fish. Will edit this when I catch it. If, I catch it.

Comment by 263080

Wow mibor, I'm sorry to hear. I went to Stillwhisper Lake in eversong woods and got the 15 pound on my third cast. I must be one of the luckiest anglers out there. :>

It weights up my effort for the coin master though, after I had the 52 first coins I spent an additional 4 hours and 1252 casts to get my last one. Only the crawdad box left to go and I'm "Salty Silep"!

Comment by 177291

They seem to have buffed the drop rate of dark herring.

After > 3,000 casts for it last week i popped over to try at lunch time having read a comment that someone caught two in less than a hundred casts since patch hit.

within 5 casts I had one in my bags and a salty title before my name. Anecdotal evidence but I am pretty convinced. Could be random being random but I doubt it.

Comment by 308671

I caught the Steelscale Crushfish on a single cast from the ferry from Wetlands to Howling Fjord. My fishing is still less than 200, and after reading the pain people go through for this achievement I feel very, very lucky. It has made me want to pursue the Salty now!

Comment by 158000

If you were not randomly lucky in the Eastern Kingdoms or Kalimdor, just take my advice and fish in pools of herring in Howling Fjord. My guildy and I both got the Dark Herring on the same day. Sure, you will end up with about 500 herrings and 300 suckerfish, but you will also fish out quite a few crates with cloth, ore or leather. We are the first "Salty" in the guild and among the few on our server. Grab a snack and good fishing!

Comment by 290663

104 casts was what I needed to get this achievement done. I got it in Shadowglen in Teldrassil, one of the small lakes that are next to eachother. 15 pound mud snapper was the fish I caught at that place.

Comment by syth

Since this achievement only requires catching any ONE of the listed fish it is considerably easier than the Crafty or Ironjaw achievements. Odds of getting any one of these fish are about 1:200.

Comment by 110916

Currently fishing in Crystal Lake, Elwynn Forest.

So far I've caught the following:

- Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 43
- Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 59
- 10 Pound Mud Snapper - 1
- 12 Pound Mud Snapper - 1
- Minor Mana Potion - 1

I'll update later on if I get lucky..

Comment by 305786

After spending many hours in Shadowglen fishing, I gave up, figuring I would go back to this one. Yesterday 1/31/09, on the pier in Daggercap Bay, fishing maxed with no lure, after 6 casts, I pulled a Dark Herring from open water. I have been fishing sporadically everywhere I land where there is water for the last 3 weeks, so I really don't know how many casts in total it has taken to land this achievement, but I can say it is far more than the Sewer Rat...

Comment by Nikotine

Ok first off, I would HIGHLY recommend going for the Dark Herring.

I spent about 2 hours fishing Elwynn Forest at Crystal Lake, 5 hours at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore and 3 hours fishing Bay of Storms in Azshara; got about 15x10 lb Mud Snappers, 8x12 lb Mud Snappers and zero 15 lb Mud Snappers. After reading about this fish a bit more and the possible increased drop rate I decided to try it out. I went to Howling Fjord to fish in the lake above Skorn. On my second cast in a pool of Fangtooth Herring I got the Dark Herring. Extreme luck? Yes. Extreme Anglin'? You bet.

GL and happy fishing. :)

~Salty Nikotine

Comment by Hezar

1444 casts later i finally got 15 pound mud snapper from stonebull lake.

stats are as follows:

Stonebull Lake

Brilliant Smallfish 843 : 58,4%
Longjaw Mud Snapper 562 : 38,9%
10 pound Mud Snapper 17 : 1,2%
12 pound Mud Snapper 10 : 0,7%
Minor Mana Potion 6 : 0,7%
Minor Healing Potion 2 : 0,1%
15 pound Mud Snapper 1 : 0,1%
Fine Scimitar 1 : 0,1%
Warrior's Shield 1 : 0,1%
Cadet's Bow 1 : 0,1%

gave up fishing dark herring at 1900 casts at howling fjord and 246 casts at grizzly hills. this was the only achievement left to get for my salty title and it was well worth it. all i can say is that patience pays off. im sure im a bit lucky to pull this achievement off with these amounts of casts since i know people who are well over 10k casts and still lack rare fish. Good luck with this achievement, with persistence you shall overcome this :)

Salty Hezar

Comment by ilostmahbucket

Data* from the first 20 pages of El's One that didn't get away thread. Hats off to El and all the other Extreme Anglers who posted their data to make this data crunch possible! My own attempt: 1/1550 in Shadowglen.

Summary:
Shadowglen: 0.104%
Crystal Lake: 0.047%
Stonebull Lake: 0.076%
Howling Fjord: 0.022%

Conclusion: There is only one thing more boring than this achievement: crunching all this data. May the luck of the Random Number Generator be with you.

Calculations:
Shadowglen: 37 successful catches of 15 Pound Mudsnapper/35607 total catches= 0.104%
35607 total catches by 46 people-25364 total catches of 37 successful people=10243 total catches of 9 people who were unsuccessful
Crystal Lake: 8 successful catches of 15 Pound Mudsnapper//16904 total catches=0.047%
16904 total catches by 15 people-5264 total catches of 8 successful people=11640 total catches of 7 people who were unsuccessful
Stonebull Lake: 27 successful catches of 15 Pound Mudsnapper/35616 total catches=0.076%
35616 total catches by 34 people-26067 total catches of 27 successful people=9549 total catches of 7 people who were unsuccessful
Howling Fjord: 6 successful catches of Dark Herring/26820 total catches=0.022%
26820 total catches by 13 people-6895 total catches of 6 successful people=19925 total catches of 7 people who were unsuccessful

*Data was only taken from people who posted specific numbers on their success/failure for these four areas. Data was taken from El's Extreme Anglin thread: http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/one-that-didnt-get-away-achievement/
Goto page 20 or 21 to see a summary of the data.
Note: 15 Pound Mudsnapper is not bind on pickup, it is auto-lootable. Dark Herring is bind on pickup.

Comment by 298210

This was mind numbing brutally long. Especially to go back to for the Salty title.

I got it at Stone Cairn Lake in Elywynn Forest.

843 casts

513 Brilliant Small Fish (60.9%)
312 Long Jaw Mud Snapper (37.0%)
6 10lb Mud Snapper (.7%)
4 12lb Mud Snapper (.5%)
3 Minor mana potion (.4%)
2 Minor healing potion (.2%)
1 Cadet's Long Bow (.1%)
1 Notched Sword of Power (.1%)
1 15lb Mud Snapper

Comment by 318324

I've been fishing in Shadowglen today... after 50 catches I got a 10 Pound Mud Snapper, after 75 catches I got a 12 Pound Mud Snapper, then around 200 catches I got another 10 Pound Mud Snapper ... 350+ catches and counting now and still no 15 Pounder :(

Comment by Kinka

And the quest is a pun to the ancient fisherman's adage of the same name (The one that got away). The saying comes from a hodge-podge collection of ideas, though the basic idea is that all fishermen are prone to telling stories of how big the fish they caught are.

Naturally, to a person so apt to stretch the truth beyond reasonable limits, one gesticulates a Schrodinger's Cat effect applies to fishermen, meaning that if you hook a fish and it gets away, 100% of the fish that are not seen and measured must be assumed to be both record breaking size, and minuscule to the point of absurdity. Since fishermen usually want the biggest possible, fish hooked that get away are always massive.

The effect is even illustrated in the quest linked above...Old Man Barlow is convinced that the Mudfish he hooked all those years ago was the "world's largest" until he actually saw it and then he was rather disappointed with its size. The fish listed in this achievement are the largest of their class, thus being the one that did not get away.

While all this might be very common knowledge, no post has yet to mention that this achievement AND quest are references to real world sayings far older than Warcraft.

It's like saying something is a reference to the movie Pride and Prejudice...the book was first.

Comment by 165016

DAY 1
I made a bit research on this case, and decided to start with Goldshire, caught about 60 fish there, and gave up... and made an ENORMOUS(Literally) research and decided that the lake below Camp Winterhoof(Howling Fjord) would be pretty good for this one... Caught around 350-400, then gave up...
Didn't try for 4 days.
DAY 5
I'm at this lake again, im a little hopeful, too... 700 catches... Nothing... Damn this thing sucks...
Didn't try for 2 weeks...
DAY 19
Oh God, its Sunday! Let's try our luck in the tournament... Yay I won, im lucky today... One That Didn't Get Away is the only remaining achievement... I said, *Why not?*, came to the lake again... Caught 50 fish, and thought that i should go on in Goldshire... Then I saw one and only one school there, and heard ppl getting their ahievements this way *Oh, i was just about to give up, but the fish came out of the last school!*, always thought that this is stupid... But couldn't take myself from trying this like everyone else... Ironic, yes, but that LAST school gave me the fish, ppl were quite surprised upon seeing STV acihevement and this one in 1 hour together... But who cares, im too damn SALTY now...

Comment by Madsen

I went to Stonebull Lake after reading this page. After a total of about 650 fish i got the 15 pound mud snapper.
Not a "i finally got it" post, just more info for people who read to estimate a good average.

Comment by 67471

Theres something about One That Didn't Get Away achievement.

103 Pound Mightfish

Caught from:
- Azshara (Bay of Storms, Hetaera's Clutch and Scalebeard's Cave only)

Minimum skill to cast: 330
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 425
Catch Rate: <1%
Caught from:
- Azshara (Bay of Storms, Hetaera's Clutch and Scalebeard's Cave only)

Minimum skill to cast: 330
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 425
Catch Rate: <1%

32 Pound Catfish

Caught from:
- The Barrens
- The Wailing Caverns
- Blackfathom Deeps
- Silverpine Forest
- Undercity
- Bloodmyst Isle (except unnamed inland areas and The Foul Pool)
- Darnassus
- The Deadmines
- Ghostlands (except Southern Lakes)
- Ironforge
- Orgrimmar
- Stormwind City
- Thunder Bluff
- Westfall
- Darkshore
- Loch Modan

Minimum skill to cast: 1
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 75
Catch rate: <1%

- Ashenvale
- Duskwood
- Hillsbrad Foothills
- Redridge Mountains
- Stonetalon Mountains (except Blackwolf River and Cragpool Lake)
- Wetlands

Minimum skill to cast: 55
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 150
Catch rate: <1%

- Alterac Mountains
- Arathi Highlands
- Desolace
- Dustwallow Marsh
- Scarlet Monastery
- Stranglethorn Vale
- Swamp of Sorrows
- Thousand Needles

Minimum skill to cast: 130
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 225
Catch rate: <1%

68 Pound Grouper

Caught from:
- Azshara (except Bay of Storms area)
- Feralas
- The Hinterlands
- Stranglethorn Vale (Jaguero Isle only)
- Tanaris

Minimum skill to cast: 205
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 300
Catch rate: <1%

Rockhide Strongfish

Notes: Can only be caught during the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza.

Time: Sundays 14:00-16:00 only.

Commentary: Ultra-rare catch from Schools of Tastyfish during the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza. Unlike the other rare fish, there is no quest involved - just equip the fish as a weapon. The Rockhide Strongfish is the rarest of all contest fish - estimated at less than 1 in 1000 catches. Most anglers will never catch it.

Minimum skill to cast: 130
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 225
Catch rate: Infrequent catch.

15 Pound Mud Snapper

Caught from:
- Azuremyst Isle (Ammen Vale Lakes)
- Dun Morogh
- Durotar
- Elwynn Forest
- Eversong Woods (except unnamed inland areas)
- Mulgore
- Teldrassil
- Trisfal Glades

Minimum skill to cast: 1
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 25~
Catch rate: <1%

29 Pound Salmon

Caught from:
- Burning Steppes
- Eastern Plaguelands
- Feralas (Jademir Lake only)
- Scholomance
- Silithus
- Stratholme
- Winterspring
- Zul'Gurub

Minimum skill to cast: 330
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 425
Catch rate: <1%

52 Pound Redgill

Caught from:
- Azshara
- Felwood
- Feralas (except Jademir Lake)
- The Hinterlands
- Maraudon
- Moonglade
- The Temple of Atal'Hakkar
- Un'Goro Crater (except Fire Plume Ridge)
- Western Plaguelands

Minimum skill to cast: 205
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 300
Catch rate: <1%

Dark Herring

Caught from:
- Howling Fjord (Fangtooth Herring School)
- Grizzly Hills

Minimum skill to cast: 380
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 475
Catch rate: <1%

Steelscale Crushfish

Caught from:
- Ashenvale
- Hillsbrad Foothills
- Wetlands

Minimum skill to cast: 55
Minimum skill to avoid get aways: 150
Catch rate: <1%

Source

Comment by 325511

Following someone's advice on this thread I went to NE starting area to fish pond there. Had Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat on and using Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole (skill 450 (+35)/450) I got 15 Pound Mud Snapper within the first 40 or so casts. Very surprised how quick this was. Maybe just luck. Don't know if skill relative to zone fished has anything to do with it, but for sure each cast was quicker in newbie zone on avg than in Northrend fishing spots. This is my first post--tried to add screenshot of the event--not sure it attached or not. Good luck getting your rare fish!

Comment by 326461

First time i tried i decided to go to Teldrassil. i got 15 Pound Mud Snapper as the 20th catch.

I might have been lucky, but maybe it is worth to try and fish there first.

Comment by Mysteeq

Someone should actually take the Blizzard employee who thought up this out and shoot him. ... The least that could have been done was to make a better drop rate on the Achievement. ... there is perseverence, and then there is sheer torture, and Blizzard have taken it beyond in the absolutely awful drop rate for this. .... 15,534 ... four weeks, and counting ... is mild
Following Day ...
Another 2,000+ fish later ... and STILL NO Rare. ... Tried in Darnassus, Tried in the NE Starting Area ... nothing nothing nothing nothing. Just completely WASTED hours.

Comment by Biftard

I read up on this achievement on wowhead, flew to Valgarde in Howling Fjord, found the first Fangtooth Herring School right next to the Grand Master Fishing Trainer, and cast out a line. I was prepared to stick it out here for a few hours today as a start, and at least walk away with a decent amount of valuable fish to auction off. I fished up a Dark Herring ON MY FIRST !@&#ING CAST! This is by far the luckiest I've even been.

While I'm sure none of you bums will get as lucky as me, I'd still recommend fishing in or around this area for this achievement as you can actually net a few hundred gold per hour by auctioning the fish you catch.

Comment by setsuko

I would highly recommend going to Howling Fjord for this one. I spent a good deal of time fishing from Stonebull Lake and got nothing.

Fishing in Howling Fjord at least makes a good bit of gold. Today's catch for me was as follows:

40 bonescale snapper
48 fangtooth herring
21 glacial salmon
3 crates
2 crystallized water
1 dark herring

I fished in pools every once in a while but mostly in open water. I got the dark herring in open water, north of UK on Cauldros Isle. This is of course not my total data for fishing in HF. I went there off and on for the past couple of days. I'd say it took me about 500 casts total if not a little less.

Comment by Koror

Very nice post but you managed to come off as a bit smug. BTW "gesticulates" means to make or use gestures, esp. in an animated or excited manner with or instead of speech, or to express by gesturing.

Comment by 331563

Just made a cast in a Fangtooth Herring school in Howling Fjord. Caught a Fangtooth Herring. Second cast? Dark Herring. Decided to continue fishing in another Fangtooth Herring pool nearby. First cast in the second pool? Another Dark Herring.

3 casts, 2 Dark Herrings.

66%? Probably not quite, but worth considering if you're looking to fish for the achievement...

Comment by 177291

In patch 3.1 catching old crafty, mr. pinchy, and presumably old ironjaw though that is not yet on prt version will give you this achievement.

Ptr version also mentions a "baby coralshell turtle" being added to this. Maybe a rare drop from frozen sea? That is pure speculation, no one knows where that drops from yet.

this change will make the achievement much much easier. Which is welcome, it took me 4,000 casts to get this by catching a dark herring, it was the last achievement I needed for the salty title. Almost turned me off fishing and I wouldn't wish to see others inflicted with that. Mr. pinchy is an easy catch (by comparison). If the fishing daily bug is not fixed old crafty is even easier.

I had old crafty, old ironjaw and furious crawdad achievements before I managed this one so it is definately much easier after next patch.

Comment by 110508

Fished in Mulgore and took about 300 casts or so for the 15 pounder. Would recommend low level zone over Azshara.

Comment by purus

Dun Morogh - 690 casts
Elwynn Forest - 285
Teldrassil - 70
Howling Fjord - 45

After all those casts in starter zones, I almost puked when my Dark Herring came up after only 45 in the Howling Fjord. Fished only in Fangtooth Herring schools.

Comment by Brendensmall

Close to 2000 unsuccessful casts in mulgore.
21 casts and caught mr pinchy but had bad wish luck.
Decided to try what everyone else was doin and try for the dark herring, so i could at least make some money while wasting time........

1 freakin cast :} screen shot woohoo

Comment by Tommy85

After reading the above posts I've decided to head into Teldrassil for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper.

I've started fishing around 1 o'clock in the evening but had to finish it at 2:15 because of a sudden realm shut down. At 11:30 I've started to fish again and didn't cancel until 13:45 - so after 2 and a half hours of staring into Lake Al'Ameth, I emerged victorious :-)

Total of 457 fish:

Brilliant Smallfish (275 : 60,2%)
Longjaw Mud Snapper (177 : 38,7%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper (3 : 0,7%)
12 Pound Mud Snapper (1 : 0,2%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper (1 : 0,2%)

Now only the Stranglethorn Extravaganza stands between me and Salty Thibble :-)

Happy fishing!

Comment by 335561

Finally caught the 15 Pound Mud Snapper after a grand total of 1586 casts. I first started fishing for it at Crystal Lake in Elwynn Forest since it was the closest to a city. After 1094 casts and reading about how people are catching it in under 500 casts at Teldrassil, I made my way to Shadowglen (the Night Elf starting zone). After 492 casts in Shadowglen, I got him. Here's my report:

Crystal Lake: 1094 casts
Brilliant Smallfish - 647
Longjaw Mud Snapper - 427
10 Pound Mud Snapper - 12
12 Pound Mud Snapper - 4
Minor Healing Potion - 3
Minor Mana Potion - 1

Shadowglen: 492 casts
Brilliant Smallfish - 292
Longjaw Mud Snapper - 188
10 Pound Mud Snapper - 5
Minor Mana Potion - 2
12 Pound Mud Snapper - 1
Burnt Cloak - 1
Plans: Copper Chain Vest - 1
Minor Healing Potion - 1
15 Pound Mud Snapper - 1

Whoever is planning to go for this achievement, I highly suggest fishing somewhere at Teldrassil. Either fish at Shadowglen where I was or judging from Tommy85's post, Lake Al'Ameth is fine also. Good luck to all.

Comment by jooles

I was reading the posts above today and noticed that the people who caught the Dark Herring quickly had a high proportion of Fangtooth Herring catches so I presume were mostly fishing in pools. I set off to test this theory and 60 Fangtooth Herring catches later (pool fishing only, so a few crates also) I got my Dark Herring.

Most interesting of all was that when the Herring arrived it *replaced* the fangtooth herring therefore if this is a rare replacement for a Fangtooth Herring rather than an additional drop and you fish in open water with a 20% Fangtooth Herring droprate you will need to cast 5 times as many times for the same chance of success as pool fishing.

Go my fellow worm danglers and prove me wrong or right.

Comment by Pirwzy

The achievement is best earned the toughest way possible. Go for the 103 Pound Mightfish.

But don't expect to get it in the first couple weeks or even the first month (or two, maybe). So far for me (2922 casts in Bay of Storms):

1260 Darkclaw Lobster, 43%
492 Winter Squid, 16%
392 Stonescale Eel, 13%
319 Big Mouth Clam, 10%
304 Large Raw Mightfish, 10%
94 Raw Spotted Yellowtail, 3%
28 Reinforced Locked Chest, less than 1%
11 Heavy Crate, less than 0.1%
5 7 Pound Lobster, less than 0.1%
4 15 Pound Lobster, less than 0.1%
3 Essence of Water, less than 0.1%
2 12 Pound Lobster, less than 0.1%
2 9 Pound Lobster, less than 0.1%

Almost three thousand catches, and still not a single special-weight Mightfish of the four possibilities. Talk about rare! Just remember, if you see that 22 Pound Lobster, don't loot it, just recast. You wanna save the achievement for the rarest one.

Comment by 338347

Hey just caught the dark herring and posted something that might help...if u click on the fangtooth herring in list my post is there...valgarde in howling fjord is where to get it i believe and posted exactly where i think u should go ..hope it helps...just click on the dark herring from list and u will see it there. Got it from my second school in a specific location.

Comment by tinytifa

The RNG gods must love me because I fished in 2 herring schools at the lake SW of camp winterhoof for a total of about 6 casts before I got dark herring.

Comment by 325757

Maybe he meant postulates or maybe hypothesises, who knows, but I like gesticulates :)

Comment by 339051

In Howling fjord, Near camp winterhoof in the lake there, there are Fangtooth Herring schools, if you fish from these you have a much higher chance to catch the fish Dark Herring, I caught it in about 100 casts, and my friend caught it in about 50. It is a much higher drop rate than any other fish for the achievement, I assume you can catch it in open water there, but the schools give a much higher chance

Comment by 54899

I'm up to about 1500 casts at crystal lake in Elwynn. I haven't been keeping exact track of what I've gotten but I know there have been at least 15 10 pound, and about 10 12 pounds. No 15 yet =/

I hate this achievement.

Comment by 344356

I definately recommend anyone going for this achievement goes for the Dark Herring. I got mine after only 15 casts (in herring pools).

Comment by milzus

17 Fangooth Herring
9 Pygmy Suckerfish
1 Crystallized Water
1 Dark Herring

total 19 casts

Comment by 242393

I have fished (unsuccessfully) all over Azeroth looking for any fish to get this achievement. I finally decided to try fishing for dark herring. I fished pools only for about 80-100 casts then just stood where I was and fished. After another 20-30ish casts I hooked a dark herring! WOOT! This came out of the lake around Camp Winterhoof, normal water (not from a pool) and I was using bright baubles as my lure.

Hope this helps someone out there...don't give up, you'll hook it when you least expect to!

Amy :-D

Comment by 78626

You can not buy a rare fish off the auction house and get credit for the achievement, you must fish and catch it yourself.

Bought a Dark Herring off the auction house for 200g and didn't get credit.

Edit: Hmm, thought this comment was a little more informative and helpful than the "I'm at 800 casts and still no rare fish" or "Got mine on my first try!" ones, but I guess not.

Comment by Palooh

Found Dark Herring after 63 casts from Fangtooth Herring School in Howling Fjord.

Good luck with it ;)

Comment by jadrianz

Shadowglen
96 Raw Long Jaw Mudsnappers
119 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
2 10lb Mud Snappers
2 12lb Mud Snappers
and finally the 15lb Mud Snapper!

Comment by 142732

I completely endorse what Nikotine said here.

After the WotLK xpac, anyone who fishes in the old world is doing themself a disservice.

I caught my Dark Herring in the Lake north of Skorn in Howling Fjord.

If you have the fishing skill to do it, and are 70+, fish the Fangtooth Herring schools in NR.

It is much more convenient to fish in your own backyard, rather than trekking to most of the other places mentioned.

Bay of Storms and Stonebull Lake, no thanks.

I spent 1500 casts in Stonebull Lake before switching to the Lake north of Skorn, where I caught the Dark Herring
as well as hundreds of gold worth of other stuff.

There, you will catch one of four things:

Glacial Salmon (if you miss the pool)
Bonescale Snapper (if you miss the pool)
Fangtooth Herring (in the pool)
Pygmy Suckerfish (in the pool)
oh, and Dark Herring (in the pool) :)

Happy fishing, Dark Herring will take your life!

Comment by 167977

My stats :)

Unsuccessful areas:

Stonebull Lake in Mulgore: ~ 1200 casts, 7x 10 pounds, 4x 12 pounds, ~ 4-5 hours of fishig.

Stillwhisper pond in Eversong woods: ~ 750-800 casts, 4x 10 pounds, 3x 12 pounds, 4 hours of fishing.

Crystal Lake in Elwyn Forest: ~ 700 casts, 2x 10 pounds, 4x 12 pounds, ~ from 7:30 to 11: 48... still no 15 pound one.

Success at last:

Shadowglen in Teldrassil: within a few hundred catches, i got him. ~1 hour of fishing. :)

pic:
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2104/wowscrnshot042009123312.jpg

Comment by 354223

All I can say is that I am seriously not looking forward this grind...

Comment by 12634

Finished this today with 8000 fish and other things caught, of wich atleast 6000 was fishing for the herring. Finally Salty!

Comment by 355113

Caught the dark herring yesterday although i was mainly going for the turtle mount but I was pretty pleased with the herring too :) Took about 2 hours. Didn't get the turtle though :S well maybe someday...

Comment by Kilzon

Caught the Dark Herring in Howling Fjord tonight after about 20 mins of fishing schools.

Comment by 353096

Caught The Dark Herring In Howling Fjord Tonight

TOTALS:

412 Fish In All
214 Fangtooth Herring
173 Pygmy Suckerfish
12 Crystallized Water
12 Reinforced Crates
1 Dark Herring

Comment by 269361

I caught the Dark Herring 2 mins ago from the pools in the lake below Camp Winterhoof on 22th cast (lucky me ^^). GL to all anglers ... now i have a new title ... SALTY Sheicutzu :)

Comment by shammertime

This took me:

2 casts
1 Fangtooth Herring
1 Pygmy Suckerfish
1 Dark Herring

:)

Comment by 308651

2 episodes of Weeds made this achievment happen :)

Got out of "the lake north of Skorn" with these numbers:

83 Fangtooth Herring
67 Pygmy Suckerfish
3 Crystallized Water
3 Reinforced Crates
1 Dark Herring

Awesome!

Comment by 212244

After 30 minutes fishing INSIDE the herring pools in the lake north of Skorn, I fished the dark herring.

Note that fishing there, you have a chance to fish the turtle too. 2-in-1.

Good luck.

Comment by Rikeni

An hour ago, as a level 51 with something like 260, 270 fishing (with a +25 fishing pole), I caught the 22-pound lobster in Azshara in the Bay while I was fishing for lobsters to level up my cooking. I didn't have a lure or anything; I didn't even know this was an achievement. I'd been fishing for maybe 10, 15 minutes... maybe like 50 casts or so. Heck, I didn't even have my 1000 Fish achievement yet when I caught it.

Just wanted to offer an alternative perspective on the skill/level you need to have in order to get a shot at this. After reading though this whole page of comments, I only now realize the freakish luck that my catch must have been....

Comment by 304970

k...so...this has to have been nerfed or something... i got 3 dark herrings within 15minutes, either i am one lucky dude (which makes no sense considering how many times i've run stratholme for rivindere's mount and killed about a zillion whelps for a whelpling pet) or this should be a lot easier. btw if you need proof i have the screen shots :P

Comment by Syninara

Day 1 (today)
After reading so much about this, i decided to give it a try. And after
61 herrings
3 crates
3 crystallized waters
I got the Dark herring. I can only advise all of you that are about to go for this to go for the herring. Simply because u got a chance on the mount too (which i didn't get, boo:( )

GL to all of ya :)

Comment by 329540

^

I did what Syninara did, by going to the pools inside Skorn...

3 Fangtooth Herring
3 Pygmy Suckerfish
1 Dark Herring

Mind you; I did spend almost a week fishing all over the place in Howling Fjord, a couple hours a day.

GL

Comment by naturerealm

Okay, first, I will admit that I am very very lucky, but here's my stats for completing this achievement.

1. Went after the 15 pound mud snapper at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore
2. Catches:
a. minor mana potion - 1
b. raw longjaw mud snapper - 33
c. raw brilliant smallfish - 45
d. 12 pound mud snapper - 2
e. 15 pound mud snapper - 1
3. Total casts 82
4. Total fishing time 24 minutes

Comment by Dallanon

Over 1500 casts in Howling Fijord waters, in general....and about 12 casts in Skorn and bingo - Dark Herring.

Must be something to do with the area.

Good luck future Salties!

Comment by Arcan

I flew to Howling Fjord, landed north of Skorn at the only pool I could see.
On the third catch in that pool I got it.

Comment by 366341

thougt it would need some hours to fish any of these. but after 67 casts tada Dark Herring. quite easy don´t understand your probs >.>

Comment by BHLimbslicer

I was building up rep with Thunderbluff by questing in Bloodhoof Village and Camp Narache, and was to go to Thunder Bluff, but stopped on the way to fish in Stonebull Lake, Mulgore. Ony about the 10th to 15th cast I caught a 15 Pound Mud Snapper, and was very excited as that was the last achievement I needed for the meta-achievement; Accomplished Angler.

Comment by 367644

Just got this achievement yesterday.

Went to the Lake north of Skorn in HF and fished only in the schools around the lake. It took me 20mins all up, flying around the lake included. Going for the Dark Herring is definitely the way to go!

Good Luck!

Comment by 371974

Just fished up the Dark Herring on my second cast from a Fangtooth Herring school at 45,18 (Howling Fjord).

Must be karma.

Comment by 377237

can i complete this one in Orgrimmar?

Comment by captinron

What are everyone thoughts on being able to fish one up in Wintergrasp? Or the turtle mount? Since Wintergrasp has the valuable fish, and can be used for Fish Feast, I am trying there, but no luck.

Comment by blankira

This is definitely the hardest achievement to attain for the 'Salty' title..

Comment by 391772

50 minutes of fishing, about 120 Herrings. Like the above posters i stuck to the pools of Fanged Tooth Herrings. Dark Herring is now mine.

Thanks for the info. above.

Comment by Arkke

Just finished this achievement. I went for the Dark Herring, and flew loops around Skorn like many others have, picking off Fangtooth Herring schools.

Only took me about 113 casts to fish the Dark Herring up, for a total of about 45 minutes of fishing. Not an unreasonable amount of time to spend on this achievement, and those who still need to raise their cooking can use the extra stacks of Herring when everything is said and done. On top of all that, you also have a chance of fishing up the Sea Turtle.

IMO, Dark Herring is the way to go for anyone doing this achievement. It just seems like a no-brainer.

Comment by 420811

I got my sea Turtle after The 12th try fishing for the dark herring :) very happy still no dark herring though :, i had 370 fishing, Charecter leodahunter realm SH(eu) have fun! good luck!

Comment by 306645

i dont know about the dark herring...will take yer advice. But, as for the sea turtle, i heard that you could get it in Grizzly Hills, in Glacier Salmon pools. And, in fact, i got one.....first cast right to the center of the pool.

Comment by Jazzism

I'm tryin for this too. 2 hours of going at it and I get 5 - 10 Pound Mudsnapper http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6292 and a Pellet Gun - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=8182.

Just can't help but have a laugh at the ironic luck.

Comment by 392150

Omg, I've fished up about 800 fish and I haven't get the dark herring or the mount.... So can you anymore fish up those two in Howlig fjord?

Fishing in Skörn, and my fishing skill is 450

Comment by Drakkash

well this was easier than expected!

5 Fangtooth Herring Schools in the skorn area and the dark herring was mine..

Comment by rabidstoat

I will now count myself as luckiest fisherman ever. I got this on my fourth cast ever in the Tauren starting area. I had no idea it was a hard-to-get achievement until just now, a week later, when I curiously looked it up. I had figured it was one of those things like the 15-pound catfish.

Comment by 94196

Brilliant Smallfish (1721 : 59.7%)
Longjaw Mud Snapper (1108 : 38.4%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper (20 : 0.7%)
12 Pound Mud Snapper (11 : 0.4%)
Minor Mana Potion (9 : 0.3%)
Minor Healing Potion (7 : 0.2%)
Bloated Smallfish (5 : 0.2%)
Small Red Pouch (1 : 0.0%)
Cadet's Bow (1: 0.0%)

In Shadowglen, Teldrassil... Still no 15 Pound :((((

Comment by all4atlantis

I got this last night on my hunter lvl 80 with fishing skill at 443 with a 5%+ Fishing hat and the 30% Jeweled fishing pole.

its not a 5%+ fishing hat, its a +5 fishing hat. not percentage based. same with the pole, its +30 fishing, not +30% fishing.

Comment by 453428

This was the last achievement I needed for the Accomplished Angler . I headed out to Howling Fjord to try for the Dark Herring. I flew back and forth from Winter's Breath Lake and the lake at Fort Wildervar, running around each one only casting in the Fangtooth Herring Schools. I cast over 6,000 times with no luck and got frustrated so I hearthed ran to the SW portal and took myself down by the lake behind Goldshire (Crystal Lake) and started fishing off of the dock. Here's my info:

Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 384
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 283
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 4
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 2
Cadet's Bow: 1
Minor Mana Potion: 1
Small Green Pouch: 1
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1

Comment by Firedwarf

As far as I can see, a rare fish will take like 1500 casts on average. Remember this is average, and can be way higher or lower

I use around 25 mins fishing 100 fish, so this means this achievement in average will take 6-7 hours

Comment by Dens2000

After reading all the comments above and failing to catch mine at Elwynn Forest I went to the recommended location:

Shadowglen in Teldrassil

21st cast!

EDIT: Also I do wonder sometimes if these fish have a "cooldown" once caught. Perhaps that is why some people catch it in 5 casts (as I have known people to do on my realm) and some take hours and thousands of casts. If you think about it, if this was true, a person who is fishing a certain fish, that is on cooldown, would have to fish for hours if the cooldown or spawn time is that long. Then if the cooldown is expired the next person that comes along will have it in no time depending on the loot list probability.

I don't think this is impossible, perhaps you should try fishing early in the morning, that would be the best time IF this is true. Let me know if it is!

Comment by pekti

Here's my data; hope it helps!

112 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
62 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
2x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1x Journeyman's Cloak
1 x Minor Healing Potion
1x 15 Pound Mud Snapper - winner!
--------------
TOTAL: 179 catches
Location: Stonebull Lake, Mulgore

I've done some fishing out in Howling Fjord for this achievement, but I found the lowbie area to be much easier. Quiet... no moving around for fishing nodes... and I did it all in one sitting in between AB queues. I definitely recommend this location.

Completed at approx 9:25PM. I doubt there's any "cooldown" on rare catches. Just RNG, as usual.

Comment by bonix

So after reading through these comments I went to lake above skorn with 585 fishing skill. Caught it in 5 casts from my first pool. If that doesn't convince anyone to fish it there then nothing will ;)

Comment by Wrayn

I've fished in the lakes in Elwynn Forest and the Herring Schools in Howling Fjord for the past 3 days, every single day, for countless hours, fishing beeing the only thing i do besides raiding and 10 daily quests.

I've fished about 3000fish by now and still nothing. I guess i'm one of the not so lucky ones...

Comment by 384933

I must thank the people who suggested the Shadowglen. I got my acheivement this morining after about 300 casts over the course of a few days. Now I have terrible luck and even I was able to get this so, shadowglen is very nice.
Also on the plus side, I was doing this on a new character and was able to level my cooking and fishing to their caps for level 10.

Thanks all again!

Comment by brat4300

Ok so I read thru a bunch of these posts and at first i was fishing for the Dark Herring for 90 minutes with no success... then i read about going to Shadowglen and decided to try it.... Im sure part of it was luck but I went to the NE Starting area behind the lodge and on my 2nd cast in one of the pool back there I got my 15 pound Mud Snapper.

Good luck fishing guys

Comment by 437409

After fishing for a few days in fangtooth herring pools, I gave up and went to Mulgore to try and catch the 15 lb Mud Snapper since there seems to be better luck with catching that one. I caught thousands of fish, and no rare! Went back to Howling Fjord today, and caught the Dark Herring from fangtooth herring pool after about 30 casts in lake south of Fort Wildervar. This was my last achievement for the salty title! Its all luck! Happy Fishing :)
*Salty Santangelo

Comment by 53121

After 2 hours of fishing for Dark Herring at the lake north of Sk--- whatever, I decided to go to the lake east of Gold Shire. 15 Pound Mud Snapper on first cast.

Comment by andriell

Hello

Now i did get This Achievement weehoo

I did as many fish in Howling Fjord, in the lakes over skorn and in the lake under Fort Wildervar. I did only fish in Fangtooth Herring School, did take me 1951 fish casts to finally get my Dark Herring

Comment by 464255

I hate this game

I spent over the past couple of days a few hours fishing the schools in Howling Fjord, after reading up a little more I decided to try my luck in Goldshire. Got it on my 4th cast :(

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In your face Totem.

Comment by kurtiffrig

Just wanted to comment on the guy who's fishing in Howling Fiord hoping to catch the sea turtle as well. Sorry to break the bad news, but the sea turtle cannot be fished up in lakes (or any other inland waters). Hence the name "SEA Turtle"

Comment by 481647

mulgore or teldrassil are youre best bets. %^&* HF having to find nodes wastes alot of time.

my results from teld. after fishing HF to death
77x brilliant smallfish
49x mud snapper
2x 12 lb
2x 10 lb
1x simple dagger
1x 15 pound mud snapper

it was worth the trip out there.

Comment by 421349

in next patch, i will try my luck combining the new Fishing Contest with catching the rare fish in Howling Fjord, and for those who dont got the turtle yet (i already had to delete one xD) it even better, since:
- "Fish any pool in Northrend where Pygmy Suckerfish are found during the Fishing Contest" thus being everywhere but Crystalsong (lower droprate)
- Every pool in northernd has a very minimal change of giving you the Sea Turtle
- Dark Hering can be caught from any Fangtooth Herring School

Fangtooth Herring School in 3.3, at a Saturday between 14.00 and 15.00 can give you: a Blacktip Shark, a Sea Turtle and a Dark Hering. 3 fish with 1 stone :P

Comment by Clossy

I'd say this is completely random. I went many different locations and stood there for 2hours fishing still haven't caught the one of the rare ones.

Imo i would suggest everyone to fish in Northrend for the profit of fish you catch while trying to get the Dark Herring.

I got the Dark Herring in Grizzly Hills on my first level 80.

Comment by 488865

Got the 15 Pound Mud Snapper after 62 casts in shadowglen. I was spending hours in Dun Morogh. While I was there I cast ~600 times without success. I guess a change of pace was what I needed :)

Comment by 98902

This achievement alone is making me hate this game in general. Why would they make an achievement be so stupidly hard to do? I've done every other fishing achievement smoothly and Now this one has consumed about 3 days of solid fishing with no luck.

Comment by 288222

50% Chance of getting any of the fish for the Achievement.
Either you do get it, or you dont. Hence 50/50.

5 hours later, still no rare fish.
Rare fish is rare.

Comment by 98902

This took me longer than catching the sea turtle, Mr.Pinchy, and the Giant Sewer Rat by far.. BUT I finally completed it. Pheeww.... Here are my results.

Stonebull Lake, Mulgore.

-x1638 Raw Brilliant Smallfish.
-x996 Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper.
-x24 10lb Mudsnapper.
-x9 12lb Mudsnapper.
-x9 Minor Mana Potion.
-x7 Minor Healing Potion.
-x1 Bloated Smallfish.
-x1 Journeymans Belt.
-x1 Infantry Bracers.

That's 2686 catches in Stonebull Lake and NO 15lb MUDSNAPPER! GAH!
................................................................
Then I tried Bay of Storms, Azshara...
-x198 Raw Spotted Yellowtail.
-x101 Stonescale Eel.
-x82 Raw Glossy Mightfish.
-x54 Firefin Snapper.
-x46 Raw Rockscale Cod.
-x43 Darkclaw Lobester.
-x26 Winter squid.
-x20 Bigmouth Clam.
-x18 Large Raw Mightfish.
-x3 40lb Grouper.
-x3 Reinforced Locked Chest.
-x1 12lb Lobster.
-x1 7lb lobster.
-x1 Heavy Crate.

That's 597 at Bay of Storms, Azshara.. No Winning fish.
..............................................................................................
Then I went to Shadowglen, Teldrassil. A bit more a pain in the ass to get there since I'm horde, but here are the results.

-x85 Raw Brilliant Smallfish.
-x53 Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper.
-x5 10lb Mudsnapper.
-x2 Minor Mana Potion.
-x1 15lb Mudsnapper!

I DID IT FINALLY! The Shadowglen theory seems to have proven itself for me as well.

- That means i caught my 15lb Mudsnapper on the 3429th catch! D: Glad it's over. GOOD LUCK! :D

Comment by 514382

good for me i got the dark herring from fjord like in 5 to 10 min, i hope everyone else gets as lucky as me

Comment by 384933

I'm very aware of RNG and all that but I must say I am now a firm and total beleiver of Shadowglen having a good drop rate. I have this acheivement on 3 different characters all managed to get it from there within about... 2-3 hours. Maybe i was just extremely lucky I dont know but after spending nearly a whole day in Ewlynn i moved to Shadowglen and got it there within 2 hours or so. Then on another char did the same (since i was leveling fishing anyway) and got it again.

Again, I'm well aware of RNG, maybe it just felt like giving me a break (I bet the turtle or rat takes me donkeys!).

Comment by 536280

I have to say that I am another believer of the Shadowglen method. I started in the waters around Bloodhoof village and nearly 600 casts later still no 15 pounder. I came out to Shadowglen and in 9 casts I had my 15 pounder and the Salty title! I know, I know...someone is going to say something about how drops in WOW are random, RNG, blahblahblah. I decided on Shadowglen based on someone's serious number crunching posted on El's Anglin site (http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/one-that-didnt-get-away-achievement/page/20). I know that people who get the fish are more likely to post, therefore skewing the drop rates, but it worked for me and I would suggest to at least give it a chance (even if you are Horde...it wasn't that hard to get out here).

Comment by 274168

I was one of the few unlucky to have problems with the achievement. Was the last one for my title so felt I really wanted it done. Some guildies had caught the 15 Pound Mud Snapper on the 8th cast. So I started out 9.30 on the Monday morning fishing only at Stonebull Lake (Mulgore) til 13.25 where I felt I had to take a break and at 15.00 I started to fish again - did some fishing again at Stonebull Lake for a hour + something, can't remember. After a while I headed towards to Iceflow Lake (Dun Morogh) fished there from approx 16.00 something to 18.00 where I took a break on two hours to see a movie.

Came back around 20.00 and started to fish again. Fished still at Dun Morogh til like 23.45 something - I had small afks at this point and missed alot of catches as I was boored to death. Headed towards to Crystal Lake in Elwynn Forest, did some sleepy fishing til approx 00.30 where I almost were asleep so fell asleep and woke up 9.00 and fished til 9.30 and BAM! I GOT IT! I had actually planned to fish all day again so can't be more happy while I write this! Well here is my list thou. Just another list for people to compare with others, the catch really is random - trust me.

Stonebull Lake: total 1400.
Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 830. 59%
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 544. 38%
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 13. 0%
Minor Healing Potion: 5. 0%
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 5. 0%
Bloated Smallfish: 1. 0%
Practise Sword: 1. 0%
Minor Mana Potion: 1. 0%
Simple Dagger: 1. 0%

Iceflow Lake: total 607.
Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 353. 58%
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 243. 40%
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 5. 0% (Actually caught two in a row once.)
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 2. 0%
Minor Mana Potion: 2. 0%
Bloated Smallfish: 1. 0%
Minor Healing Potion: 1. 0%

Crystal Lake: total of 315.
Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 197. 62%
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 111. 35%
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 3. 0%
Minor Healing Potion: 1. 0%
Minor Mana Potion: 1. 0%
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 1. 0%
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1. 0%

Of course the 0% is approx of 0.1% chance.

Anyway, good luck to you all!

Comment by 538792

You're so not gonna like me... 33rd cast in the Fangtooth Herring Schools at Winter's Breath Lake
Got a Dark Herring.

Would have rathered the turtle mount tbh

Comment by 540669

450+25 skill. Seth's Graphite Fishing Pole
I wish you all luck. I caught my Dark Herring after only 29 casts. All I did was circle Winter's Breath Lake. The night before I caught my Mr Pinchy after about 600 casts over the course of several days about two hours at a time.

Comment by emcee

i hate my life

im almost up to 14,000 fish and other things caught, i'd say 80% of all of it is from either fishing for the IF rare fish, the turtle mount, or the dark herring in howling fjord, and i still don't have any of the 3. and if it wasnt for the crocs bug, im sure i wouldnt have the orgrimmar rare fish either.

been fishing for the dark herring for at least 3 hours a day for the past week

Comment by Hourglass

I'm thinking of giving the Shadowglen area a try.

As Horde, going to the night elf starting zone obviously has it's issues. Elixir of Water Walking eliminates the need to take the boat from Auberdine (you can mount up and run from the northern "point" of the Darkshore coastline) so actually getting there isn't a problem. But since Blizzard seems intent on requiring you to run into/through major enemy cities for holiday meta Achievements every other holiday, maybe with the upcoming Lunar Festival I'll give it a try. I have to visit the Elder in Darn and Dolanar anyway, so while I'm there...

Comment by 436718

I suggest to anyone who wants this achievement to participate in the STV fishing contest. I caught the Rockhide Strongfish in about 15 casts into Tastyfish pools. I also was not even trying to complete this achievement at the time that i got it.

Comment by MrPink

I have been trying to get this achievment since I first started fishing at lvl 10 over a year ago. Since then I have managed to aquire all of the other achievments needed for the "Salty" title except for Master angler of Azeroth I really started the grind for "The one that didnt get away" once I got all other achievments. At that point I had 6,000+ fish and other things caught, I now have exactly 20,010 fish and other things caught. And I still do not have this achievment. It is very frustrating and I hope you all have better luck than I am having. And i have also used all of the info above to help me find good locations to no avail.

I finally got my Dark Herring from the lake north of Skorn. 21,463 fish and other things caught.

Comment by GreasyMcNasty

Just wondering if anybody has got a rare catch in Wintergrasp?

I go there quite often to skill up and get fish feast ingredients and would like to know if I even have a chance.

Comment by Alacrity

I'd recommend Bay of Storms, if only because you can make a non-zero amount of gold for your time.

For example, you can fish up clams, which can yield various pearls. The golden pearls are very valuable, especially if you're lucky enough to have access to enchanting recipe for +30 Spellpower. Likewise, Winter Squid can sell very well.

Your mileage may vary, but if you're going to throw away some time for the achievement, you may as well try to get some gold out of it.

Comment by dopfeldecker

I fished for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper in Mulgore's Stonebull Lake for about an hour, and this is what I got:

212 Fishing Casts

Reading the previous comments of people trying to catch this fish, I guess I was pretty lucky.

Comment by 367622

2-5 hours every day/second day for 3 weeks and I finally got this as of 10 minutes ago. My usual route around the two northern lakes in Howling Fjord has paid up and the Dark Herring is finally mine.

Now all I need is my Sea Turtle mount and I'll be as happy as Larry.

Daellon - Khaz'Goroth

Comment by D1RE

Finally caught the 15 pound mud snapper in the lake next to Goldshire. I figure I've got around 800 throws for this one and around 2000 for the dark herring. Funny thing is I hate fishing with a passion, I've hated it since vanilla. Still, I figured the title was awesome so I got all the achievements needed.

Salty Shagina - Grim Batol, EU

Comment by 568368

I've been fishing for the Dark Herring and the turtle mount for weeks now. The Fangtooth Herring pools in Howling Fjord. Finally, I caught the Dark Herring. Fish Caught: 5,500 exactly. It was also within couple hours after the Tuesday morning maintenance.

Fizzcrank server.
Deceptress.

Comment by 569393

My gloating numbers:

39 Fangtooth Herring
1 Cystallized Water
1 Bonescale Snapper
1 Reinforced Crate
1 Dark Herring

Total Casts 43

TOTAL RNG, I know, but I was excited. :)

Comment by 495579

Been fishing for days trying to catch the Dark herring but no signs of it spawning so I tried to go after the Mud snapper and after the 9th cast I got the achievement in Mulgore. Fishing skill full with epic pole. Hope this helps! :)

Comment by xMelchx

4000+ casts for the dark herring
3000+ casts in the bay of storms
over 40 hours of fishing so far and nothing yet.

shadowglen: 115 casts and got my lol

Comment by miketsesh

after 3 days of fishing, 3600 casts, and no luck with the dark herring in grizzly hills, i moved to shadowglen and got the 15lb'er on my 603rd cast in just a few hours.

Comment by Todzilla

About 250 or so casts in the lake on the dock behind Goldshire, right next to the NPC's fishing with no fish nodes at all.

My thoughts were that if you are in nodes every time you are more likely to catch those fish more often than the one you really want. It paid off in just over an hour's time for my Rogue. I also won the Fishing Derby today playing it for the first time in about ten minutes!

Now believe it or not, all I have to do is finish my Old Man Barlow achievement for SALTY. So maybe two more days or so to pass the SALT.

Comment by donutball

So here's my agonizing journey to fishing my way to Salty by catching the Dark Herring and testing my luck on getting the Turtle mount.

FYI I'm fishing only in the fangtooth herring pools.

DAY 1 : spent around 4 hours fishing in the lakes in Howling Fjord.
DAY 2 : spent around 6 hours combined fishing in the lakes in Howling Fjord.
DAY 3 : spent around 4 hours fishing in the lakes in Howling Fjord.

It seems like I too have fallen into the group of people that spend an insane amount of time fishing with no results. The day I run out of things to watch while fishing is the day I'll give up. lol.
I'll continue to update in case anyone else is feeling discouraged. I'm going through the same thing. =)

Edit: Since the last time I posted I've been alternating between Elwynn Forest and Howling Fjord for the achievement. I caught the 15 pound Mud Snapper right in the pool next to Goldshire, by the blacksmithing structure. I'm glad I decided to switch for a bit and just test my luck. Now I'm back to fishing just in the Howling Fjord for the dark herring and turtle mount

Comment by 189828

Thought I would add my experience with this achievement. Got it fishing in Elwynn at the various lakes there. Tried other locations like Howling Fjord beforehand but decided to work on it in the lowbie zones for safety and not having to move around so I could do other things while working on this one.

Total Casts in Elwynn: 2185
Mud Snapper: 831
Brilliant Smallfish: 1299
10 pounders: 24
12 pounders: 9
Assorted Pots and Junk: 21
15 pounder: 1

Real funny aspect of course is after spending more hours than I want to think about working on this in Elwynn I have since returned to Howling Fjord to work on Turtles All the Way Down due to the compact grouping of the pools there. Having done about 600 Casts there I just caught 2 Dark Herrings in about an hour, no turtle yet though. Long story short good luck on these achievements to all of you guys working on them.

Comment by 164958

Just got my 15 Pound Mud Snapper in Mulgore's Stonebull Lake and this is the data i collected:

Total Casts: 326
- 193x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
- 129x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
- 2x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
- 1x Minor Mana Potion
- 1x Minor Healing Potion

Comment by stormysky

Got the Dark Herring in less than a dozen casts at Cauldros Lake in Howling Fjord. Happy Hunting!

Comment by 174898

Just got the 15 Pound Mudsnapper 2 minutes ago in Mulgore after 16 throws. I've been to Teldrasil for a couple of hours, hunted the Herring for about 5 hours. But now I thought I'd try my luck in Mulgore since there's been some comments about it beeing the easiest spot. And from what I can tell, it is.

Comment by 379363

After six hours and 1285 casts in Muglore the 15 Pound Mud Snapper is mine. I was getting between 180-200 casts and hour. Max fishing with the hat and 100 fishing one hour long lure. My advice is to just fish for that one hour once or twice a day when you have nothing else to do. You'll get it eventually. ^.^

Comment by Bubonic

Until you get the Turtle Mount, it's probably best to try for this in Northrend- why not try for two achievements at once? After that, though, the best place might be Azshara, simply because the fish can sell for so much on the AH. Darkclaw Lobster, Summer Bass, Winter Squid etc. are some of the only ways to level cooking to 300. They don't always sell quickly, but I got 30-40 gold per stack on my server- much better than the 3-4 gold for a stack of Fangtooth Herring. At least while you're sitting there getting nowhere on the achievement, you can tell yourself that you're actually gold farming.

Comment by TaurenKing

Got this after 86 casts in the lake just north of Skorn..Just keep circling the lake....Dark Herring

Comment by kayoon

Got this after 7 grueling hours of Fishing, Was getting really frustrated but kept with it. I went to Shadowglen in Teldrassil.

669- Raw Brilliant Small Fish
466- Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
3- minor healing
2- minor mana
1- malachite
10- 10 pound mud snapper
4- 12 pound mud snapper (hate these first one i got i was like woot i got it... NOT!)
1- 15 pound mud snapper

Good luck for others trying to get this.

Comment by 613711

FINALLY caught a Dark Herring at the East side of Winter's Breath Lake in Howling Fjord. Spent 3 days flying around that lake, and after at least 1000+ casts, I GOT IT =)

Comment by doodlehacker

The One That Didn't Get Away

Justa' Fishin' In Aldrassil, Teldrassil, Mon!
1127 59.22% Raw Brilliant Fish
745 39.15% Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
13 .68% 10 Pound Mud Snapper
5 .26% 12 Pound Mud Snapper
5 .26% Minor Mana Potion
4 .21% Minor Health Potion
2 .11% Bloated Smallfish (Malchite)
1 .05% Low-Level Gun

1 .05% 15 Pound Mud Snapper
==================
1903 99.99% Casts >>

Includin' Da Time Spenda Get Da Dark Herring/Sea Turtle!
1127 48.20% Raw Brilliant Fish
745 31.86% Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
435 18.61% Fangtooth Herring (Including other stuff)
13 .56% 10 Pound Mud Snapper
5 .21% 12 Pound Mud Snapper
5 .21% Minor Mana Potion
4 .17% Minor Health Potion
2 .09% Bloated Smallfish (Malchite)
1 .04% Low-Level Gun

1 .04% 15 Pound Mud Snapper
=================
~2338 99.99% Casts >>

My results, I would think, are of average results. Neither lucky, nor nightmere'ish.

So, when you finally decide to get this 15 Pound Mud Snapper, realising it is the best drop rate of all the fish
in the achievment list, dropping with the best rates in ALDRASSIL, TELDRASSIL:

EXPECT TO FISH AT LEAST 2,000 TIMES.

You could get lucky, or rng() may decide to bust'a'cap in yo ***.

But, it is entirely worth it.

Comment by xanthax

I got my 15 pound mudsnapper after 345 casts at Stonebull Lake. I stood on the roots of the knocked over tree and fished for a few hours.

Comment by 193720

If you kill a resto drood in full wrathfull using Dark Herring, does that make you a Knight who formely said Ni! Because that does qualify as Cutting down the mightiest tree in a forest with a herring?

Comment by 502983

I was attempting this today in howling fjord, within 30 mins i caught the turtle, now I'm worried that I'll catch that again rather than the dark herring seems this is the worst grind.

Comment by Marlo

Got this achievement whilst fishing in crystal lake in elwynn, Caught the 15 Pound mud skipper before i had even caught 100 fish ^_^

Comment by Skez

5,000+ casts and counting...
Been to Stonebull Lake in Mulgore most of the time but also ~2000 casts in Bay of Storms in Azshara one day, and not more than 500 casts in the small pond just outside Silvermoon City.
I'm going to continue anyway, good luck to all others trying to battle the RNG gods.

Update
Well, 7600 casts and I finally got the 15 Pound Mud Snapper in Mulgore.

If you REALLY want to do the Accomplished Angler I suggest you to be extremely patient.

Comment by 244101

I've tried this achievement off and on for quite awhile. Did about 600 casts in Stonebull Lake, maybe 400 in a little pond near Goldshire and about 500 casts in Howling Fjord.

Finally got it today in Shadowglen, Teldrassil.

Total casts (Shadowglen only): 1210

Brilliant Smallfish: 733
Longjaw Mud Snapper: 458
Health potion: 4
Mana potion: 3
10 lb Mud Snapper: 4
12 lb Mud Snapper: 5
Warrior's Boots: 1
Beatstick: 1
15 lb Mud Snapper: 1

Comment by Gwennae

I've tried this yesterday. As I read from all the comments above I tought I'd give it a shot in the starting area from the nelfs... Had 250 casts and said, to hell with it. I'll try it out in Stonebull lake in Mulgore.

First catch. 15 pound Mud Snapper!

Comment by 631387

Luck! It exists!

I was looking at these comments and most of them made me thinking 'Oh not again...' since I just spent days and days to get all coins from the fountain. But now luck is on my side...

Got my Dark Herring (see this image) after 3 casts! And 30 minutes later I fished up Mr. Pinchy as well!

Comment by 174223

Ive been fishing above skorn in Fjord for about 6hours, got nearly 400 Glacial Salmon, and Dark Herring isnt dropping!
Can anyone tell me if its bugged or something? because this is the longest ive read about anyone trying to get this fish! :(

Comment by 398571

Shadowglen ftw...

15 Raw Brilliant smallfish
12 Raw longjaw mud snapper
1 10 pound mud snapper
1 15 pound mud snapper

29 casts

just 3 dalaran coins to go

Comment by 626561

Fishing around Skorn really works, got my Dark Herring yesterday from my 3rd pool.

Comment by Artist1701

There are two things that I would like to ask on the subject of doing this achievement because I am working at it currently with no avail.

1. Is there a special way people are casting when fishing around pools. I know for a fact that you can't hit the pool sometimes so i wonder do you allow each cast to run it's course, BOTH the hits in the pool and the misses, hoping for some luck on the misses or do you continually recast till it make a good hit?

2. Why is fishing the only part of the game where gear score does not matter beyond a certain point? I have worked hard to get my skill score for fishing (with buffs from my Weather-Beaten Hat +75 lure) to 580. That doesn't seem to make any difference in the chance I get to find rare fish or turtle mount. Now I know that they are all random drops but in every aspect of the game, the game allows advantages to higher scores (hit rating, power, etc.) why not fishing. Luck definitely plays a big part in fishing but don't professional real life fisherman know a little more that the guy who gets a bamboo pole and a safety pin? I'm not saying that there should be a significant difference but why can't the drop rate increase a little for the people who want to work for it. Maybe go from a 2% drop rate for rare fish to a 3% or something. Or maybe a buff to increase cast time, something anything to help the committed fisherman in the game. It just frustrating to work at something with NO advantage over other players who just want to "go fishin".

Noone would play if a person with Naxx 10 gear rouge was being beaten out with a ICC 25 geared rouge with the same specs. why should fishing be any different.

Enough rant from me, but I'm saying something to Blizzard and I suggest all those who feel similar do the same.

"I'm goin fishin"

Comment by 123178

Random drop is seriously random.

I've decided to go for the Dark Herring and I think it was totally worth it.

It wasn't all roses tho, after wasting almost 2 days of fishing in Howling Fjord I decided to give up and aim at other achievments but after few months, today, I woke up and took a shower and thought "Damn... I want the Salty title...", wasted few minutes trying to gather info about good spots but I went for the same spot looking for the same thing as few months ago and what a surprise... got it after 6 catches:

Results for the 6 catches (I don't remember the info from the previous tries, deleted the .txt while formatting):

Pygmy Suckerfish: x7
Fangtooth Herring: x7
Crystallized Water: x1

Random stuff is random, aleluia...

Comment by Hordeimagen

Fished in mulgore now. 3k casts. Not a rare :S

Comment by damiensarin

Wonder if there is a secret Feat of Strength unlocked if you catch every fish in that list... hmm

Comment by 657929

Took me about 300 throws or so to get the 29 pound Salmon at the top lake of Feralas. Now I got my Salty achievement atleast!

Comment by RacerLicht

Got it today

Total casts (Dun Morogh only ofc as Dwarf :-) ): 512

Brilliant Smallfish: 315
Longjaw Mud Snapper: 183
10 lb Mud Snapper: 5
Health potion: 3
Mana potion: 3
12 lb Mud Snapper: 1
15 lb Mud Snapper: 1
Burnt Cloak: 1

Make a good catch!

Aho!
Licht

Comment by Smobu

Got Dark Herring after 10 hours, counting lures

Comment by Playdead

Fished in Stonebull Lake, Mulgore.

After 143 casts I caught one to complete the meta fishing achievement.

80x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
59x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
1x Small Healing Potion
1x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1x 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Lucky compared to most I guess.

Comment by patrock

I think I can speak for everyone who hasn't caught this when I say
ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ..........

I've actually watched 3 movies while trying to do this.

Comment by 513113

While fishing in the lake under Camp Winterhoof in HF fishing in Fangtooth Herring Schools, Under 200 casts i caught the Turtle mount....
Got bored fishng in the same spot so decided to go through all the lakes in HF

The after many MANY more casts in the same day i came back to Skorn and got the Dark Herring

Count
Reinforced crate loot - 10 Frostweave, 17 Boren Leather Scraps, 6 Colbolt ore
160 Pygmy Suckerfish
260 Fangtooth Herring
11 Crystallized Water
1 Sea Turtle
12 Bonescale Snapper
5 Glacial Salmon
1 Dark Herring

Comment by 671125

Having won the fishing competition on my 3rd attempt , and sneaked into Ironforge at lvl 60 to fish up a deadly foe of old crafty by the name of Old Iron Jaw . I set it upon myself to acquire the Salty title , and set off to catch one which would certainly not get away from me . I took the advice to set up camp in bay of storms , with empty bags in the hope that i could snare a mightfish of enormous proportions , or be lucky enough to get pinched by a lobster even more ellusive than the Magical Mr pinchy who now accompanies me anywhere and everywhere i chose to fish . However after casting 2 thousand times , and catching lobsters and mightfish of all shapes and sizes other than the required 104 pounds , or 22 in the case of the lobster . I did something i have never done on any fishing mission before ... I gave up ! deciding i would take my business elsewhere . Back to the town of my Birth , many moons before ... Mulgore . I got wind that a certain death knight had travelled far and wide to find himself there and casted only 500 times before catching a 15 pound mudsnapper (thanks ZXIN of balnazzar)
I thought it would be a breeze compared to the many days i had spent in the damned bay of storms , but to my horror i caught 5 10 pounders and 2 12 pounders before i hooked the azeroth's most massive mudsnapper .
here are the catch stats from my expedition :
820 raw brilliant smallfish
420 raw longjaw mudsnapper
4 minor mana potion
4 minor healing potion
1 hunting rifle
19 '10 pound mudsnapper'
8 '12 pound mudsnapper'
as yet i still have no sign of a 15 pound mudsnapper
(update will be made oncei i catch the wretched thing

Comment by 360149

I got 15 pound mud snapper with 5-6 hours farming

Here are the numbers

Total Casts = 750

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper = 296
Raw Brilliant Smallfish = 437
Minor Healing Potion = 3
Minor Mana Potion = 1
Pellet Rifle = 1
12 Pound Mud Snapper = 6
10 Pound Mud Snapper = 6
15 POUND MUD SNAPPER = 1

Here Screenshot :
http://yfrog.com/f/jwwowscrnshot100410152538j/

Comment by Heraro

Just got it done few minutes ago, spent two nights in Azshara with about 2500 fish caught in total with no result, then I decided to try my luck at Bloodhoof village and i got 15 pound snapper in 100 casts which is totally awesome :)
however random numbers are still numbers, good luck to everyone doing this achievement :)

Comment by celagorn

Fishing is based on a random chance. However, not all drop chances(e.g. quest drops are random chances) are based on complete random or pseudo-random chance. Initially Blizzard wanted a 35% standard drop rate on quest items but then turned to a linear regression drop rate for quest items and things of that nature. This does not include achievement items such as the fish or the turtle or Mr. Pinchy. These items are completely random as others have stated.

*Edited for grammar

Comment by Twinsteel

Count me among the Stonebull Believers.

Tonight's stats:
Stonebull Lake - 165 catches
Brilliant Smallfish - 96
Longjaw Mud Snapper - 67
12 Pound Mud Snapper - 1
15 Pound Mud Snapper - 1

It was a nice run compared to the thousands of Fangtooth Herrings I've flooded my server's market with.

Comment by Izzak

I tried fishing from Stonebull Lake. Mulgore

Day 1 :
507 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
320 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
4 10 Pound Mud Snapper
3 12 Pound Mud Snapper
2 Bloated Smallfish
2 Minor Mana Potion
1 Minor Healing Potion

But i've miss probably 20 catch because of not clicking fast enough at the
end of the new channeling bar :(

Day 2 :

240 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
144 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
2 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1 Bloated Smallfish
2 Minor Mana Potion
1 Minor Healing Potion

Day 3 :

282 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
200 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
2 10 Pound Mud Snapper
2 Bloated Smallfish
3 Minor Healing Potion
1 Malachite

and 1 freaking 15 Pound Mud Snapper !

So here are my numbers :
1 821 Catches :

1129 Raw Brilliant Smallfish ( 61.999%)
664 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper ( 36.463%)
8 10 Pound Mud Snapper ( 0.439%)
5 Bloated Smallfish ( 0.275%)
5 Minor Healing Potion ( 0.275%)
4 Minor Mana Potion ( 0.22%)
4 12 Pound Mud Snapper ( 0.22%)
1 Malachite ( 0.055%)

1 15 Pound Mud Snapper ( 0.055%)

Note : i prolly didn't click around 50 of my bobbers because i wasn't fully paying attention.
So the numbers are just for viewing pleasure or agony.

Comment by 695936

Hey guys just got it on my 420th cast and got my salty title

wasnt all to bad,

would defiantly recommend going for the @ stonebull lake in mulgore

was super relaxing and secluded +no worry about pools

good luck and take it slow :D

Comment by 696566

Ok, today i thought I might try this achievement. Although I was a bit afraid tbh after reading all these posts of how many tries they had to make.

Well, I went to Mulgore since after from all the posts it seemed to be a good place to try this out. And it was, i got my 15 Pound Mud Snapper after just 81 tries and I got 100% fish.
I went with the kalu'ak fishing pole, fishing hat and lure. Giving 450+30+5+100 fishing skill.

This was my catch:

43 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
36 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Thats about it.

Comment by 144992

This should be made into a Feat of Strength, seriously. :)

Comment by 390549

My Experience was moderately painful.

About an Hour farming Fangtooth Pools in Howling. Then I ran into some competition, so I flapped my way down to Cauldros Isle and did laps of the edge of the Isle. I'm a level 80 Druid, so every now and then I had to slip into Kitty form and toast a Worgan, but for the big part they left me alone. I was probably at it for another 3 hours before it dropped.
Was so relieved to have found it, but also a little despondent not to have scored the Turtle yet.

Approx End results...
~400 Fangtooth
~250 Pygmy
~12 crates
~9 crystalised Water
~1 Dark Herring

I found that while doing laps of Cauldros Isle, the Pygmy drop rate was far higher than everywhere else I had fished. It was about 2 Pygmy to 3 Fangtooth.

Best of Luck, it's boring, but a good feeling when you get her done.

Comment by luciphear

40minutes of fishing in stonebull lake in mulgore gave me

55 raw brilliant smallfish
39 raw longjaw mud snapper
1 minor mana potion
1 15pound mud snapper

gl all ive finally got my salty :D

Comment by 554049

I just about cried the other day...

So I was fishing early Sunday morning for the Dark Herring. Auto-loot was turned OFF. Lo and behold, the Dark Herring comes up! After about 15 hours of fishing! Before looting, I start typing in guild chat and what happens? THE LOOT WINDOW CLOSES! I didn't loot the fish and didn't get the achievement.

Please learn from my stupidity, and turn on auto-loot when fishing for this stuff! Per Blizzard GM, they could not give me the item as they could not verify that I actually fished it up. It's not on my character log since I never actually looted it.

Ugh...at least I still have to get the turtle, hopefully I'll get another before that drops for me!

Comment by Daco

Just a quick note about the odds here, for anyone contemplating going after this achievement. El's website estimates the odds of catching any of these fish on a single cast as being about 1 in 10,000. (The exception may be the Rockhide Strongfish which can only be caught during the Stranglethorn fishing competition and may have a catch rate as high as 1 in 5,000.)

So what does a rate of 1 in 10,000 mean? Each cast is presumably independent, meaning that previous results have no impact on your chances of success, just like with flipping a coin or rolling dice. Each cast will have the same 1 in 10,000 chance of success, no matter whether this is your first cast or 12,000th. Figuring your chances of success over a number of casts is easy. You figure your chances of being unsuccessful first, which is the probability of failure raised to the power of however many attempts you make. In other words, here your chance of failure is 9999/10,000. With two attempts or casts, your chance would be (9999/10000)^2 (or 0.9999 squared) or 0.9998, or 99.98%. Again, that's your chance of failure, so you find your chance of success by subtracting your result from 1. Here with two casts, your chance of success is 0.0002, or 0.02%.

So let's say you spend some time trying this. How about 100 casts? How about 1000? How about 100 casts/day for 10 days (since each cast is independent, 1000 casts gives you the same odds whether done all together or spread over 10 days)? What are the chances for success?

100 casts - 1.00%
500 casts - 4.88%
1000 casts - 9.52%
5000 casts - 39.35%
10,000 casts - 63.21%

The sad truth is that this is a very difficult and luck-dependent achievement. If you sit down in Elwynn Forest or Mulgore and make 100 casts, you have about a 1% chance of getting your rare fish, and thus it's not surprising that some people get lucky after a relatively few tries. However, even if you sat there for 10,000 casts, you'd have greater than a one-third chance (36.79%) of finishing those casts without getting the achievement. And remember, after those 10,000+ fish have been caught, your odds of success on the next cast are no greater than they were before you started.

Comment by 172321

Just gotta report here, basicly support the Shadowglen theory.

2150 casts in Howling Fjord. No Dark Herring, got the Sea turtle mount though. Then I told to myself ok well I am done here, might aswell try Shadowglen.

194 casts in Shadowglen, 15 Pound Mud Snapper popped :).

Comment by nuubskilled

Fishing 450 + Bone Fishing Pole in Mulgore:

94 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
67 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
1 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Comment by 100333

I decided to farm the 15 pound mud snapper in Crystal Lake, Elwynn Forest. I spent 4hrs farming it the first night, and finally got it the 2nd night after couple hours.

Comment by valdren

~3k catches, 1500 at HF, 1500 at Mulgore (stonebull lake). Got the mud snapper.

Comment by missfunk

Fished in Shadowglen, Tedrassil.

450 fishing and the bone fishing pole.

193 casts:
65.6% - Brilliant Smallfish (109)
31.3% - Longjaw Mud Snapper (77)
1.6% - 10 Pound Mud Snapper (3)
1.0% - Minor Mana Potion (2)
0.5% - 12 Pound Mud Snapper (1)
0.5% - 15 Pound Mud Snapper (1)

Think I got lucky =D

Comment by 282820

I tried Howling: 1k+ casts - nothing
after reading your comments i tried Shadowglen:

10 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
5 Longjaw Mud Snapper
15 Pound Mud Snapper
boom!
I'm Salty :)

Comment by Kuroko

Just got it in a perfect moment of you've-got-to-be-joking ... on my level 10 gnome priest twink Kuroko on Zirkel des Cenarius, first time doing the new Stormwind daily fishing ... and pulling the Fishing Hat out of the bag as an encore ... couldn't quite believe it

Comment by 144992

Stonebull lake supporter! Got my 15 Pound Mud Snapper within around... 200 something casts, after fishing at Crystal Lake and Shadowglen (around 100-150 casts on both places before moving to Stonebull) while playing some Flash games... I was about to give up on this one, but persistence is the key!

Don't give up! :)

Comment by nexod

Dark Herring confirmed as still ingame as of 4.0.3
I was only fishing in pools

584 Fangtooth Herring
1 Dark Herring (~0,17%)

Dark Herring replaced the Fangtooth Herring when it popped up.

Comment by 665928

FFFFFFFFF THIS ACHIEVEMENT.

Comment by argogruelin

12,469 fish caught.... 0 rares.

Comment by 140328

I went for the Dark Herring from Fangtooth Herring schools in Howling Fjord, after ~350 casts I got it. I can't help but feel fortunate it didn't take ~1000 casts. This was also the last achieve I needed to go Salty. WOOT!

Comment by drujt

according to my statistics, i have caught over 17k fish. How many rare? none... Im completely desperate. And I know that all people i know who completed this achiev did this during skilling fishing. 17k fish... not hours, but days of work! Unbelieveable how unlucky can i be.

Comment by 764586

I acutally got this when completing the Thunder Falls daily fishing quest in Stormwind, after 7 casts I have the quest and the 15 pound mud snapper. Maybe I was just lucky on this day. I do have over 500 other fish caught from various other in land lakes so again maybe I was just lucky today.

Comment by 765524

IM A STONEBULL LAKE BELIEVER !

After maybe 3-4h in Howling fishing 800ish Fangtooth's I decided to hear the call of Stonebull lake and take my chances... 20 min after getting there the 15 pound mud snapper appeared !

This was the sweetest achievement sound i heard yet :)

Comment by 297856

Went for Dark Herring @ Howling Fjord in the lake/rivers above Skorn, only doing schools of Fangtooth Herring.
Only took me 294 Fangtooth Herrings before I got it!

Comment by 665078

Today, while fishing for Stormwind daily at Thunder Falls, I caught the 15 pounds mud snapper.
I already had the Achievement some time ago with the Dark herring but went to check if the snapper was added to the list.
It wasn't.

So for people that might thing there's a hidden achievement for catching them all : there isn't.

Comment by 777670

Today after reading up on "The one that didn't get away" achievements on various sites to decide on which fish I'd be chasing, I settled on catching my self a Dark Herring.

As I made my way down to the lake in Howling Ford, I was thinking about how I had read that some people spent days fishing for this thing. Some said that they spent hours a day with no results.

I was mentally preparing my self for the long hours/ days ahead.

Soon I spotted a pool of Fangtoothed Herrings, landed and did my first cast.

The Fishing bobble splashed... I clicked it... and the Achievement dinged.

Caught it on first cast :O

I was fishing level 480(ish) at the time, and hadn't even bothered to place any lures or anything else as it was just my first attempt/ cast from mounted.

Comment by Gunitekk

I just was trying to reach that achiv and i am kinda dissapointed because i catched turtle not dark herring! :) (in not more than 10 pools ^^)

Comment by 267546

Forget the other fish. Go for the Dark Herring. Not only you can sell it for almost 12gold but you can do Turtles All the Way Down at the same time. Kill 2 birds with one stone...

Comment by 290525

Going for the dark herring is totaly your best bet, just got it today during the fishing contest ^^ Working on this fish make you work toward : maxing fishing, chance at the turtle mount, count toward the guild achievement to fish in pools.

Comment by 792726

Caught the 32 pound catfish randomly while fishing for bristle whisker catfish in Redridge mountains. Took about 15 casts. Wasn't even trying. I feel lucky. :-)

Comment by esmartuek

For years, I've been randomly spending a few hours in Howling Fjord going around Lake Cauldros. After all, on two other toons, I caught a dark herring there while just merely trying to skill up fishing. With the introduction of the Sea Turtle, I was even more adamant about staying in that zone. Finally, last night, I caved. I also brought up my old theory on time of day.
I went here, saw Stonebull listed several times as better than the Fjord, so I went there.
I fished last night there for about 20min. I caught a 10 and a 12lb snapper in that time, as well as a health potion.
I logged in earlier this afternoon to try again and within 5minutes, my hope faded but I kept trying. As soon as I stopped caring, I caught a 15lb snapper.

I'm also a Stonebull Lake believer.

Recap:
over 2 years, 3 server hops and countless hours (possibly days) of fishing Howling Fjord... thousands and thousands of herrings. I filled a gbank with herrings once.
Randomly caught 2 dark herrings on toons I don't care about. None on the one toon that mattered.

about 25min and less than 60 fish at Stonebull earned the achieve.
Not saying that everyone will have the same luck, but coming here changed my decision on where to fish, and I hope that my experience of trying for so long doesn't play out the same for others.

Comment by 678032

thought id try this ach today as im only missing this and tourney win for "salty"...started in winterhoof lake in howling fjord...
tried 2 strategies, open water and pool fishing. I recently got my turtle a few weeks ago while fishing fathom eel schools in tol barad...so gave me a little flxibility...here are stats from howling fjord..

i have maxed fishing at 525, using mastercraft kalu'ak pole, weather beaten fishing cap (and lure it provides) for a total skill of 635

219 fangtooth herring
137 pygmy suckerfish
71 glacial salmon
191 bonescale snapper
18 crystalized water
10 reinforced crates
0 rare fish

now for a change of venue im moving the the thunder falls area outside stormwind to try there for a little while, if that has no results in a few hours ill move to lake stonebull...will edit and post stats as i progress...but hopefully not too much longer =/

Comment by Sarabee213

~2 hours at Stonebull Lake got me:

306 brilliant smallfish
226 longjaw mud snapper
2 12 pound mud snapper
2 10 pound mud snapper
2 minor healing potion
1 minor mana potion
1 bloated smallfish
0 15 pound mud snapper

I'm off to Howling Fjord to try my luck for the Dark Herring...

Comment by 164509

Stonebull Lake, 26th cast. I love rng sometimes.

Comment by Misbehave

1500 Fangtooth Herrings - nothing
#$%^loads of Mud Snappers/Catfishes in Elwynn, SW and IF - nothing
15 minutes @ Stonebull Lake - 15 Pound Mud Snapper

I know it's RNG, just sayin'.

Salty Misbehave!

Comment by cameroncorner

Well ... I went into this Achievement with trepidation after reading how long it took others to get this one. I had just finished getting the 'Bloated Salmon' for the Oceanographer Achievement and that took about 1450 casts, which was enough to cause me frustration and intense boredom and from what I can see I did it in quite a good amount of casts.

Anyway, I decided to go to the lake behind the blacksmith at Goldshire and I got the 15 pound mud snapper in 21 casts! I'm so happy right now.

Good luck everyone ... I hope you get it soon.

Comment by hanky

Patch 4.0.6 - 15th March 2011
Got at Mirror Lake in Elwyn Forest. (Arround 300 trys)

GL.

Comment by Stealthed

Was tempted by people saying to fish the place where you do the daily Thunder Falls. I've done the daily many times, but right now, I went out fishing and got the 15 pound mud snapper on 4th cast.

Good luck, hope you can be lucky as well, RNG can be good and bad

Comment by 803086

Lol,
i was like "ok i'll try stonebull"
i've tried in hf during wtlk for like 2-3k fish but gave up,
20th catch in SB and i got 15 pound, gz me ^^

Comment by 807760

Went to Mulgore/Stonebull lake and parked it there for about 2 hours. took some breaks here and there. Got the 15 pound mud snapper right around the 2 hour mark. Was about 200 casts.

Comment by agressiv

This is the last achievement I need for Salty. Wondering about the following, with these facts in mind:

I already have my Sea Turtle
I'd rather fish in pools for That's A Lot of Bait
I'd rather catch cataclysm fish, cause they are a bit more useful than regular fish.

But, I'd be willing to settle for old world fish if I could do a pool - that's really my only "requirement". Any ideas?

Comment by lifeofwiley

ugh. i had some hope after reading about stonebull lake. this is the last achievement i need for "salty".

thus far
- about 900 into SB lake, so far, no dice
- previously i've done about 3k in blasted lands (lobster and mightfist)
- and about 2k, mostly from pools, in howling fjord for the dark herring.

any suggestions guys?

Comment by Omduel

Wanted to add my data, I have had all other achievements for Salty for over a year now, and from that point on have been trying various spots for this achievement and this is some of the more useful info that I have saved, I went awhile without the fishing-buddy add-on so my data isn't fully complete but its the last little bit of fishing that I had the add-on for.

Total Fangtooth Herring: 607 (from all zones mostly in pools)

From Winter's Breath Lake: Howling Fjord
Fangtooth Herring: 235
Pygmy Suckerfish: 169
Bonescale Snapper: 26
Crystallized Water: 24
Glacial Salmon: 14
Reinforced Crate: 13

From Caldemere Lake: Howling Fjord
Fangtooth Herring: 372
Pygmy Suckerfish: 263
Reinforced Crate: 28
Crystallized Water: 23

From Stonebull Lake: Mulgore
Brilliant Smallfish: 191
Longjaw Mud snapper: 138
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 1
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1

Comment by lifeofwiley

okay, i've decided to adopt a fresh perspective.

who would like to guess how many casts it's going to take to get the 15 lb mud snapper from SB lake? winner gets bragging rights! and i'll feel less depressed. lol.

currently:
- 1248 catches and counting

current stats:
- brilliant smallfish 58.9%
- longjaw mudsnapper 39.3%
- 10 lb mudsnapper 0.6%
- 12 lb mudsnapper 0.6%
- minor mana potion 0.2%
- minor healing potion 0.2%
- bloated smallfish 0.1%
- fine scimitar 0.1%

Comment by 780651

thunder falls (over 2 days )
about 383 fish, got in on 2nd day after about 80 casts...
the percentages according to fishing buddy addon puts some at 0% just as its calculated over 2 days...

brilliant smallfish - 59%
longjaw mud snapper - 38%
10 pound mud snapper - 1% - (4 of them on first day)
Minor Mana Potion - 0% (2 of them)
12 pound mud snapper - 0% (1 on the first day )
15 pound mud snapper - 0% - one!

15.12 server time - thunder falls, elywyn ghostlands eu

Comment by BDLandis

Finally got the achievement, by catching the 15lb Mud Snapper from Stonebull lake in Mulgore. The annoying part is I've caught several of those rare fish... from before the achievements were in the game, and they weren't retroactive. :( That said:

Stonebull Lake, Mulgore:
Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 1,442 (59.73%)
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 921 (38.15%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 17 (00.70%)
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 13 (00.54%)
Minor Healing Potion: 8 (00.33%)
Minor Mana Potion: 7 (00.29%)
Bloated Smallfish: 2 (00.08%)
Long Bo Staff: 1 (00.04%)
Fine Scimitar: 1 (00.04%)
Pioneer Belt: 1 (00.04%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1 (00.04%)

Total number of casts: 2,414

Total time spent fishing was something along the lines of 36 hours played over 2 weeks, but I didn't really keep track of that and there were AFK's, etc in there.

Comment by 778007

It really seems that 15 Pound Mud Snapper is the easiest option.

I tried to catch the Dark Herring, I got the turtle and after that I kinda gave up.

Then i went for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper, 120 throws and that was it.

So to anyone going for the achievement, head for mulgor.

Comment by koowal

Stonebull Lake

Total Casts: 1438
- 838x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
- 571x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
- 11x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
- 7x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
- 4x Minor Mana Potion
- 4x Minor Healing Potion
- 2x Bloated Smallfish
- 1x Pioneer Cloak

and still no 15 pound >.>
goin check shadowglen.

Comment by doodlehacker

The One That Didn't Get Away

Justa' Fishin' In Aldrassil, Teldrassil, Mon!
---------------------------------
1127 59.22% Raw Brilliant Fish
745 39.15% Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
13 .68% 10 Pound Mud Snapper
5 .26% 12 Pound Mud Snapper
5 .26% Minor Mana Potion
4 .21% Minor Health Potion
2 .11% Bloated Smallfish (Malchite)
1 .05% Low-Level Gun

1 .05% 15 Pound Mud Snapper

=================================
1903 99.99% Casts >>

Includin' Da Time Spenda Get Da Dark Herring/Sea Turtle!
----------------------------------
1127 48.20% Raw Brilliant Fish
745 31.86% Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
435 18.61% Fangtooth Herring (Including other stuff)
13 .56% 10 Pound Mud Snapper
5 .21% 12 Pound Mud Snapper
5 .21% Minor Mana Potion
4 .17% Minor Health Potion
2 .09% Bloated Smallfish (Malchite)
1 .04% Low-Level Gun

1 .04% 15 Pound Mud Snapper
---------------------------------------------------
~2338 99.99% Casts >>

My results, I would think, are of average results. Neither lucky, nor nightmere'ish.

So, when you finally decide to get this 15 Pound Mud Snapper, realising it is the best drop rate of all the fish
in the achievment list, dropping with the best rates in ALDRASSIL, TELDRASSIL:

EXPECT TO FISH AT LEAST 2,000 TIMES.

You could get lucky, and RNG may decide to bust'a'cap in yo ***.

But, it is entirely worth it.

Comment by lifeofwiley

FINALLY GOT IT! (at stonebull lake)

here's the breakdown:
- TOTAL = 2999
- brilliant smallfish = 1784 (59.5%)
- longjaw mudsnapper = 1158 (38.6%)
- 10 lb mudsnapper = 25 (0.8%)
- 12 lb mudsnapper = 17 (0.6%)
- minor mana potion = 5 (0.2%)
- bloated smallfish = 4 (0.1%)
- minor healing potion = 4 (0.1%)
- fine scimitar = 1 (0.0%)
- 15 LB MUDSNAPPER = 1 (0.0%)

Comment by cybele7

Howling Fjord confirmed for me and a guildie today as the best site. Guildie of mine got the Dark Herring in 37 casts in the river below Skorn and here are my numbers for the Winter's Break Lake.

Fangtooth Herring 182
Pygmy suckerfish 128
Crystalized Water 10
Reinforced Crate 7
Dark Herring 1
-----------------------------------
Total catches 328

Comment by Pouned

Done today. Took about an hour.
Went to the Tauren zone, and fished in Stonebull Lake, Mulgore

Fished :

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x70 (37 %)
12 pouds Mud Snapper x1 (0.5 %)
15 pounds Mud Snapper x1 (this one made the Achievement) (0.5 %)
Minor Healing Potion x2 (1 %)
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x116 (61 %)

Started around 12 am. Achievement completed at 1:49 PM

Skill = 525
Used = Bone Fishing Pole (+30 Fishing) and Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat bonus (+75 Fishing)

Comment by MustangHUN89

Start 2011.05.10 - 20:38 <> Done 2011.05.10 - 20:50

Elwynn Forest - Crystal Lake

Fished:

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 24x
Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 19x
Minor Healing Potion: 1x
15 pounds Mud Snapper (Achievement): 1x

fishing 45x and done achi :P

Easy achievements.

Comment by Jaysol

Just fished in Stonebull Lake in Mulgore and this what I caught in 13 min.

20x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
20x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1x 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Now I have no idea if they nerfed the drop rate or I am just REALLY lucky. Usually I am never lucky when I fish. So I hope this helps. If you have bad luck try Stonebull Lake or Crystal Lake. Maybe there magical?

Comment by Incarcerated

Adding my numbers to the pile:
250 casts at stonebull:
100x mudsnappers
143x smallfish
2x minor healing potions
2x 10 pound mudfish
2x 12 pound mudfish
1x bloated smallfish

Moving to Howling Fjord for a scenery change. Will update numbers as and when appropriate

Comment by Heracleea

I just fished up the 15 pound mud snapper at Stonebull lake. It's just a matter of luck I think as I tried several times, hours, for the dark herring and no dice. After 40 casts or so, the 12 pound came, then after 5-6 more casts the 15 pound one. Good luck all.

Comment by Roland1969

Worked for me. Thanks. Stonebull lake, 665 buffed fishing skill (+100 lure):

210x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
136x Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper
6x 10 lb Mudsnapper
1x Minor Mana Potion
1x 12 lb Mudsnapper
1x 15 lb Mudsnapper

I seemed to catch more of the rare Mudsnappers (10lb, 12lb, 15lb) when I switched to +100 lures from +75 lure. Perhaps there is a threshold that increases your odds somewhere between 640 and 665 fishing skill?

Comment by Chrovan

Lake Caldemere confirmed, i just fished the Dark Herring there:

Total Casts: 138
Time Needed: 1h 04min
Base Fishing Skill: 525
Skill Add: Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pool (+30 Fishing Skill)

Fangtooth Herring: 132 (+81 Pygmy Suckerfish)
Crystallized Water: 3
Reinforced Crate: 2
Dark Herring: 1

Comment by MrB153

You're all going to hate me...but my girlfriend just fished up the Dark Herring out of the 3rd pool....let me say that again....her THIRD POOL. Yeah...the kicker is that's the last achieve I need on my main to get the "Salty" title>.< G f'n G

Comment by Cupcakee

STONEBULL LAKE. DO IT.

I was extremely skeptical about the number of posts saying Stonebull was the ticket since you have to take some of these comments with a grain of salt but for once they were right. I had spent 2 hours in Howling Fjord and got nothing. But I decided to take my chance in Mulgore and here's the stats:

30 mins

Total Casts - 131

80 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
48 Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper
1 Minor Mana Potion
1 12lb Mud Snapper
1 15lb Mud Snapper

Comment by pinktiger

for One That Didn't Get Away and I Smell A Giant Rat achievements i found myself an "easy" and less boring way to farm, i use the "wowvid" addon(is an addon that allow u to watch movies/episodes that u have downloaded on your pc in game) and turning off the music from wow so the only thing i mostly hear is my fishing pole when i catch something, also i put my fishing keybinding on one of my mouse's keybindings
my point is that (at least for me) to watch a movie/episode while fishing make my life realy easier =)
hope that helps more ppl :)

btw sorry for my english xD im always bad on explaining things ^^

Comment by 567851

I did about 1500 casts for the Dark Herring from pools / open water in Howling Fjord with zero success.

Alternatively, I had read a lot about Stonebull Lake being one of the hotspots. Frustrated with the Dark Herring, I decided a change of scenery was in order.

15 Pound Mud-Snapper -- Cast two.

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz195/xocotl1977/WoWScrnShot_060211_021133.jpg

Comment by 204878

As I already had the Sea Turtle I decided to go to Lake Al'Ameth in Teldrassil (as Horde). Started at around 15:00 and got it at 20:50, here's my counts:

266 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish (58.08%)
183 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper (39.96%)
3 x 10 Pound Mud Snapper (0.65%)
2 x Minor Healing Potion (0.43%)
1 x 12 Pound Mud Snapper (0.21%)
1 x Bloated Smallfish (0.21%) (Contained 1 x Malachite)
1 x Disciple's Cloak (0.21%)
1 x 15 Pound Mud Snapper (0.21%)

Total: 458 throws.

Comment by BscorpobBx5

Lol, I got this acheivment when I was level 5 noob, it was last year when I started the game, I had NO IDEA the fish were this hard to catch until now. I caught a 15 pound mudsnapper in Night Elf starting area and it only took me like, 5 casts as far as I remember. Since I had NO IDEA it was rare or special at all, I sold it to a vendor. Keep in mind that this was my VERY FIRST day of playing WoW.

I just need to get THAT LUCKY with the Sea Turtle Mount now...

Comment by Smoketh

I spent about 3 hours fishing for the 15-Pound Mud Snapper at Stonebull Lake.
Here are my results:

228 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish (57.72%)
155 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper (39.24%)
6 x 12 Pound Mud Snapper (1.52%)
2 x Minor Healing Potion (0.51%)
2 x Minor Mana Potion (0.51%)
1 x Practice Sword (0.25%)
1 x 15 Pound Mud Snapper (0.25%)

Comment by Deekline

After several failed attempts in Howling Fjord pools (2k+ fish caught, no Dark Herring, no Sea Turtle), I decided to try myself Stonebull Lake for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper. Here are the results:

917 x Brilliant Smallfish
542 x Longjaw Mud Snapper
10 x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
6 x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
5 x Minor Healing Potion
4 x Minor Mana Potion
1 x Flanged Mace
1 x 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Definitely a better spot to complete this achievement, of course if you're not hunting the Sea Turtle in the same time. I enjoyed fishing in this spot cause I didn't have to fly around for pools, I could watch 2 whole movies while fishing. Now winning the Kalu'ak Fishing Derby and "Salty" is mine!
Best of luck to everyone!

Comment by 837005

STONEBULL LAKE IS THE WAY!

- no running for pools, you win a lot of time, more catches!
- free alternative tasks (browsing bag, calendar events and achievements, watching tv, etc), while sound is on and can hear the catch sound
- nice ratio

After some hours at howling fjord (bored) I went to stonebull lake, Mulgore ..... and after 50 minutes:

216 catches:

1 x 15 Pound Mud Snapper
1 x Bloated Smallfish
1 x Minor Healing Potion
2 x Minor Mana Potion
2 x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
4 x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
78 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
127 x Brilliant Smallfish

Comment by Teenka

Elwynn Forest lakes, 859 casts, 2x 10 pound mud snapper, 4x 12 pound mud snapper, 3x Bloated Smallfish, 1x 15 pound Mud Snapper.

Comment by 241082

Decided to try Stonebull Lake for the first attempt at this achievement. I can happily say that it only took 40 minutes with maxed (525) Fishing skill, +30 from Jeweled Fishing Pole, +5 from Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat, and +150 from Heat-Treated Spinning Lure for a total of 710 Fishing skill. Here's what I got:

78x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
59x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
2x Minor Mana Potion
1x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1x 15 Pound Mud Snapper

I would highly suggest anyone attempting this achievement to try this spot first.

Comment by 769282

over 3 thousands fishes..over 20 hours of fishing in howling fjord and shadowglen..
no dark herring
no 15 pound mud snapper
...
so sad blizzard so sad...

Comment by capnbiff

Caught the Dark Herring today. You may have heard the celebration echoing around the world...16,568 fish caught, 23,264 fish and other things caught. Subtract maybe 4,000 fish caught while leveling, doing 203 fishing dailies, etc; and subtracting maybe 6,000 fish caught catching the bloated rares for the Cata achs still leaves about 6,000 Fangtooth Herring caught in Winter's Breath Lake. I reckon that's about 50 hours of my life spent with one eye on the screen, waiting for a bobber to bob or a splash sound.

Are there easier places to catch it? There must be. One alt who has gained at least 30 levels just from the SW fishing and cooking dailies caught a 15-lb mudsnapper doing the Thunder Falls daily (catch ~#800). But wait, it gets worse. Another alt was created just before Cata specifically to get more cooking tokens to buy more cooking mats so I could try for Server First 525 Cooking (yes, I got it). I eventually sent her out to Newman's Landing to watch for Shelly spawns. One day while waiting for my main's hearth CD to run out, I noticed this alt hadn't leveled fishing or cooking, but had a pole. So, I fished for a while off the dock next to those BB Bruisers. Catch #97 was the 15-lb mudsnapper. <SOB> The RNG is a very capricious god. BTW - I know this spot is not listed in Wowhead as a spawn point. Still, I caught it there.

Anyhow, all that's left to the clear the whole professions tab is that doggoned sea turtle mount. Off to the more lucrative Cata zones to fish it up...

Comment by Bikkin

Got the 15 lb mudsnapper today at Stonebull lake after 5,102 fish caught. This was the first place I tried for the achievement at and just grinded it out.

Comment by Rubick

Another confirmed catch of Dark Herring, from the lake around Skorn. Fishing at only the Herring pools, around three hours of fishing.

Comment by MaBaer

I started working on the 2 fishing achievements Liminologist and Oceanographer(whatever it is) and had written down all remaining fish I needed. I looked all them up and mapped out my plan. I also decided to make some effort at fishing the pools and working on the Turtle mount and one of the rare fish for this achievement. I fished a tiny bit last night in Howling Fjord. Came back this morning to work a bit more. I hit the lake by Camp Winterhoof and then went down the 3 rivers leading down. I figured I would try the lake just South of Fort Wildervar(alliance) and hit all the pools. I was about to give up for the moment to go work on the Molten Front and hit 1 last pool--that ws the magic 1, I fished up the Dark Herring : ) Give or take a few numbers, I ended up with a couple reinforced crates, a couple crystallized waters, like 68 pygmy suckerfish, and like 71 fangtooth herring.

Happy Fishing

Comment by 128032

Roughly 1,500 casts in Stonebull Lake (the water around Bloodhoof Village in Mulgore) which took about 4½ hours and I got my achievement :D

Thanks for the info.wowheaders.

Comment by Sugu

I was fishing in pools for the guild achievement today (10k fish in pools). I remembered I had to do "One that didn't get away" so I flew to Howling Fjord to go catch the "Dark Herring"
I'm maxed out fishing wih the kalu 'ak pole, no lure. It took me exactly 4 casts to catch this one in the pools around Skörn. Just luck I guess 0.0

Comment by 862640

As a player who want to achieve like me( :) ) I have one hint for you. And here it is

Northern Stranglethorn is for me the place for fishing and I will explain it why

1: I get the achievement: Fish don't leave footprints out here in this zone (not only once but I think 4 times)
2: You can do a part of the quest given by Nat Pagle which is name is Nat Pagle, Angle extreme
3: Fishing for Steelscale Crushfish, 68 Pound Grouper or Rockhide Strongfish in Stranglethorn Area during a sunday could be a good idea because of the Booty Bay fishing Contest
4: Stranglethorn is a place full of school and you could do even a part of That's a lot of Bait

Comment by XNedra

Stonebull Lake

335 casts

209 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
114 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
5 x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
3 x Minor Healing Potion
2 x Bloated Smallfish
1 x Minor Mana Potion
1x 15 Pound Mud Snapper!

Comment by Lynkyn

12958th fish caught, 19240 fish and other things caught, finally got Salty this A.M. just before 9:00 A.M. on the Dalaran server. Been hitting the lake just south of Stormwind, just below the falls. I don't know how many hours i put into it, but this morning on was on my 7th heat treated spinning lure and 19th Rumsey's Rum Lager.

W00t

Comment by MajorMage

I just got my 15 pound mud snapper today.

I went to Teldrassil and went all the way to the north end of the river to the waterfall.
I stood on the edge of the waterfall facing south and I caught the following:

2 Raw Brilliant Small fish
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

That's it. Three casts! I am now going to go purchase my Power Ball ticket!

Comment by 855963

Tried for Dark Herring near Skorn for a week. Lots of good catches that sell well in the AH, and I got the turtle mount, but no Dark Herring.
Then I tried Stonebull Lake for a week. Caught everything except the 15-pounder. It was so frustrating.
Then I tried the lake just south of Org and caught the 15 pound mud snapper on the 4th cast!
You can only hate the RNG for so long (and vice versa).

Comment by Fuzzidio

Day 1, Fished in Dun Moragh, did 4K Casts...no fish
Day 2, FIshed in Elwynn by Crystal Lake (2k casts) and Helms Bed Lake (2K casts)
Day 3, Fished in Shadowglen, 4K Casts...STILL no fish
Day 4, Decided to trek to mulgore, Fishing at Stonebull Lake (Heard people had luck here) Just hit 6K casts

Overall Casts, 18K Casts

I Swear Blizz Hates me

Comment by paulette1966

5 Hours at Stonebull Lake and got 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Comment by Danteus

So I can say you don't have to be high level to get this. Fishing in Howling Fjord on my level 14 hunter, on Wyrmrest Accord, I got the Dark Herring.

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x472/DanteusRodriguez/WoWScrnShot_082311_150934.jpg is the picture if you wish to see.

Comment by 854093

Mulgore, Stonebull Lake, fishing off of the tiny island on the south side of the east half of the lake.

I realize this is incredibly fortunate, but this confirms that the RNG can smile upon you...

Fishing with a Strong Fishing Pole and Fishing Hat equipped, total of 610 fishing skill.

40 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish (62.5%)
23 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper (35.9%)
1 - 15 Pound Mud Snapper (1.6%)

May the luck of the RNG be with you all!

Comment by Giganticles

I agree that Stonebull Lake is the way to go. After a couple years of going for a dark herring in Howling Fjord I just recently decided to start giving Stonebull Lake a try. Tonight after about 100 or so casts, I finally got a 15 pound mudfish and my Salty title! Oddly I caught a 12 pound mudfish then a 10 pound mudfish right before I caught the 15 pounder.

Regards,
Salty Giganticles

Comment by markkandray

Stonebull Lake
13h50 server time (Argent Dawn)
Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole
Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat (equipped but not used)
Glow Worm
9th cast: 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Now I have to win Master Angler of Azeroth...

Comment by 632060

When fishing in Stonebull Lake do you have to fish in pools to catch the Mud Snapper or can you just fish anywhere in the lake and you will catch it? -Thanks

Comment by 766071

Finger tired...mouse worn out...mount is near death...can't even eat it...bags full, again...how long I can....endure...unknown...

Comment by 634536

caught this bastard of a fish today after about 12 or 12.5 hours of fishing off and on for 3 days. At first i was fishing for it in Elwyn forest at mirror lake, but 1675 fish caught and nothing to show for it, i decided to move somewhere else. I went to Stonebull lake in Mulgore, caught him probably after about 1200 casts. (am not sure because for some reason my stupid fishing buddy reset, which made me mad because i had it going with the specific reason of posting it on here.) So we will just say that around 2000 fish caught before i got the 15 pounder. Happy fishing all.

Comment by Cheesewheelz

Just got my 15 Pound Mud Snapper on my 79th Fish in Stonebull Lake, now for the Fishing Contest and I will be Salty Cheesewheelz!

Comment by 36990

Caught Dark Herring in one of the Howling Fjords lakes on the second day while trying to complete this achievement. Made a total of 350 casts, give or take few. If the drop chance is really 0.01%, i got very lucky.

Comment by Xoebe

September 18, 2011. About 10:16 a.m. Pacific time, which would be 1:16 p.m. server time. Caught the Dark Herring in the lake north of Skorn in Howling Fjord. I was pretty astonished. Here's the unbelievable part: Two casts later, the same pool, I caught another Dark Herring. I don't know what to say.

Comment by Mapsofapoc

september 26, 4:27pm est

much like Giganticles above, I have been fishing the dark herring on and off for over a year. today, tried out stonebull lake; catch results as follows:

78 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
45 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
1 x Minor Mana Potion
1 x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1 x 15 Pound Mud Snapper

all in all about 40 minutes, good luck!

Comment by bregn

Juhuu ! :) Just caught a 15 pound Mud Snapper in Stonebull Lake, on my third throw :)

Comment by urmom85

Does anyone know if these can be caught in schools or open water? Either/or, both, one or the other? If both are possible, is there a better drop rate in 1 or the other?

Comment by Lottielot

Stonebull Lake was a excellent tip! Finally got my Salty title yesterday after 225 casts.

128 - Smallfish
92 - Mud Snapper
3 - 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1 - Mana Potion

1 - 15 Pound Mud Snapper :o)

Comment by 521543

US Server Staghelm
Stonebull Lake - Mulgore

451 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
274 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
5 - Minor Healing Potion
3 - Minor Mana Potion
4 - 10 Pound Mud Snapper
4 - 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1 - 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Not too bad for 1 mornings work.

Comment by 892757

Guess im lucky i fished in 2 Fangtooh herring pools in the lake above Skorn 41,22 and got the Dark herring, same happen my first time trying for the turtle mount fished in 2 pools got it like my 5th cast. My fishing is at 403+25,I don't think fishing skills have anything to do with it tho because i got my turtle mount and Mr Pinchy on the same day and i was only 200 and something.

Comment by triggz

Another +Upvote for Stone Bull Lake.

Had gotten a 22lb lobster pre-achievements and was pretty disappointed about never having credit for this. Tossed my line to the lake ~550 times to grab a 15lb mud snapper and check this awful achievement off my list. Seems like you get a random xx pound mud snapper every ~50 casts, perhaps 1 in 10 being the 15 pounder.

Comment by 895507

I was trying this achievement since wotlk, always in howling fjord, for almost 3 years i think. No Dark Herring, no Turtle mount.

And today i tried the river outside darnassus, the one who goes north and get split in a fork. Just stood in the middle river, like someone said before, and got it on my 40th cast.

Now im a happy salty. Just 2 or 3 years late, but still, happy as #%!#%!% !

Comment by Hollye

I'm not sure if it matters, but I'm Horde, and on one character I got the Dark Herring while doing some fishing/farming for buff food at Crystal Lake in Howling Fjord (it probably took about 300 fish to get it, but it was a surprise when I got it). On another character, I deliberately fished for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper at Mirror Lake in Elwynn Forest. It took just over 200 fish to get it.

Comment by TBizzle

US Crushridge
Also fished in Stone Bull Lake

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper = 120
Raw Brilliant Smallfish = 203
Minor Healing Potion = 2
Minor Mana Potion = 1
Malachite = 1
Journeyman's Belt = 1
10 Pound Mud Snapper = 2
15 Pound Mud Snapper = Priceless

Not to bad compared to winning the fishing tournament

Comment by Nakama

I got my Dark Herring today from fishing in the lake north of Skorn and SW of Camp Winterhoof. Took a total of about 980 casts.

Comment by druishprncss

Took me 37 casts at Stonebull Lake,Mulgore. I am an alliance toon. I just found the set of rocks on the west side of the lake. Used the Heat-Treated Spinning Lure,Captain Rumsey's Lager, +5 to fishing, Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat , Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole. Bringing my fishing skill up to 722. Well worth it though. I couldn't tell you how long it took all in all. This is just the stats at the lake I was at. All in all though between the rat/sea turtle and this achievement a combined total of 4k casts.

Comment by MikeAUT

9.500 fish half hering half stonebull, still nothing :(

char isn't really a lucker, still no "Needy" oder "Greedy" Achievment, never seen a 100 rolled by myself

*update: Needy & Greedy in one Ulduar Achievment Run, still no rarefish, counter up to 10.200 :(

! Finally!

4754x casts in stonebull
1x 15 Pound Mud Snapper

so happy atm!

Comment by 764627

I'm only posting for those of you keeping statistics (I don't know why, I think it's all luck and a matter of how much time you wanna spend getting this achievement).

Cho'gall Server
1500 server time
Stonebull Lake
Level 85
525 fishing skill

406 Brilliant Smallfish
229 Longjaw Mud Snapper
5 10 pound Mud Snapper
3 12 pound Mud Snapper
2 Bloated Smallfish
1 Small Green Pouch
1 Minor Mana Potion
1 15 pound Mud Snapper

648 total casts. Approx 2 1/4 hours. I took a break after two hours (because the power went out during a storm. Power was out about an hour and a half). 15 minutes after logging back in, I caught it.

Comment by 847363

i came close to this i got a 10 pound mud snapper at 59,59 teldrassil.

Comment by templarcollector

Was fishing for the turtle mount in Howling Fjord, but in the process I got two Dark Herrings

Server Illidan
Total of 742 items caught

Caught one Dark Herring in Winter's breath lake and the other in a stream in Howling Fjord....no turtle mount though

Comment by 347973

I use to fish in Stonebull Lake once in a while before i won the tournament but after winning the tournament i thought i will try Howling Fjord for Dark Herring. Was fishing in Howling Fjord for 4 days and didn't catch a Dark Herring. On 5th day (today) after reading these comments and visiting El's site, i decided to try Stonebull Lake and caught 15 Pound Mud Snapper and got my Salty title.

-Salty Satyriasis-

Comment by Shigar

Been trying for the 15 pound Mud Snapper for the last 3 days now at various fishing sites. Im nearing 1600 catches of fish/various objects with no luck. It's driving me crazy, it's the last achievement I need for the Salty title :/

Comment by 912841

I want to thank all the people above me for their useful comments. I went to Stonebull Lake and the results are:

(223 fishing skill + bright baubles 75 + fishing pole 25 = 323)

59 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
27 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
2 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1 Minor Healing Potion
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper
= 80 casts

I must admit that i feel pretty lucky cause i thoughy my fishing skill was way too low to get this achievement.
Good luck to everyone who is going after this.

Comment by 914334

I found an odd pattern while fishing Stonebull. My "rare" catches would go in bursts. So I'd get Smallfish + Snappers for about 30 minutes and then I'd catch 4 "rare" items in the next 1 minute, be it a potion, 10, or 12 pounder. And then back to nothing for the next 30 minutes.

Tomorrow when I hit this spot again, I plan on getting the data and hopefully graphing it to see if it's just perception or if there really is something to it. I was at this spot for about 4 hours and I saw this over and over that my rare catches would come within 1 or 2 casts of each other.

Comment by Inygo

It seems that there is a MUCH higher chance to catch the Steelscale Crushfish on the new Darkmoon Faire Island. I myself caught it and the Sea Pony in 246 catches. Anywhere there is open water will do.

Comment by 781619

Just got the Steelscale Crushfish on the docks to the left of the portal on the Darkmoon Isle. Took about 4 hours or so of fishing and about 400+ casts. Took about 200 to get the Sea Pony.

I sat in Mulgore for about 8 hours three or four different days and never got anything, so unless I'm VERY unlucky, the new Darkmoon location is much easier!

Good luck and happy fishing!

Comment by Calydor

This achievement seems ridiculously easy to get on Darkmoon Island.

The Steelscale Crushfish has a very high droprate from the waters surrounding the island, and you're likely to get one sooner than you get the Sea Pony.

Comment by Yerbury

Thanks to Cyst (and others) for suggesting the 15 Pound Mud Snapper at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore:

Skill: 663 (525 + Weather-beaten fishing hat +5, Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole +30, Spun Truesilver Fishing Line +3, Sharpened fish hook +100)

212 casts:

128 Brilliant Smallfish
76 Longjaw Mud Snapper
3 10 Pound Mud Snapper
2 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1 Minor Healing Potion
1 Minor Mana Potion
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Comment by 931038

I spent 2 days at Stonebull lake without any luck. Then the Darkmoon faire opened up and I went fishing in the waters surrounding the Darkmoon island for 2 hours and caught a steelscale crushfish! :)

Comment by Merkilan

Lv 6 human paladin in goldshire, leveling fishing. Sat down at Crystal lake, started a fire, relaxed and cast. Skill level 25 passes, lots of junk, beginning to get fish. Skill level 33 and DING!

"One That Didn't Get Away!"

*mouth drops open*

15 Pound Mud Snapper.

*facepalm*

Three years I've hunted rare fish, not a single one and little level 6 toon gets it.

Can verify can catch it in Elwynn Forest at Crystal Lake.

Beginning to think have a better chance casting a rare at skill level close to that of lake than at max level with lures.

Comment by Rothar

Shadowglen in Teldrassil

I fished for about 30 minutes yesterday, only 10 minutes today and got my 15 Pound Mud Snapper. Roughly 100 casts.

NOTE 1: After reading the posts at the start of this thread, then jumping all the way to the end for the latest updates, I saw more than one person mention getting lucky in the two small ponds behind the building in Shadowglen (they're too small to show up on the map but are real easy to find).

NOTE 2: I've been fishing in pools all over Azeroth for years now working on this achievement, not to mention trying to fish up the turtle in the oceans off of Northrend, plus building up the total fishing from pools count for the guild achiev. After reading the posts about Shadowglen and how easy some people had it, I'm surprised at how easy this was!

Comment by Marmen

Location Confirmed January 18, 2012

15 Pound Mud Snapper (47.01, 61.82) Stonebull Lake, Mulgore near Uthan

Fishing Skill 419 + Nats Lucky Pole(25+ to fishing) + Aquadynamic Fish Attractor

50 Brilliant Raw Smallfish

39 Raw Mud Snappers

1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Comment by 863152

After roughly 3000 casts, I caught my Dark Herring. For the most part, I stuck to fishing out of Fangtooth Herring pools. Just keep at it, eventually you'll get it. Now I'm Salty Blank! :D

Comment by Renuts

Well I won the Fishing Tourny, and then set out to get this achievement next. I did a good 2,000-3,000 casts in Howling Fjord for the Dark Herring and the Sea Turtle and got nothing. So I went to Crystal Lake and in less than 200 casts I got the 15 Pound Mud Snapper. I highly recommend you go for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper, data proves it seems to have a higher drop rate, and people seem to have better luck with it as well.

Good Luck!

Comment by Attilathehun

I started fishing in Darkmoon Island for both this achievement and the Sea Pony. I got the Sea Pony a few days ago and today I got Steelscale Crushfish on my first cast! Quite lucky. Omw to get The Lurker Above and the Salty title now :P

Comment by maryalice

Stonebull Lake - caught 198 fish and then finally caught the 15 pounder and BOOM! got the Accomplished Angler achievement. Now I'm now "Salty Kattarie" :)

Comment by wolfspirit21

After 2.5 hours of constant farming in Durotar, in the same location (NW), I finally was able to catch a 15 Pound Mud Snapper! Good luck all!

Comment by 959205

I've just hit the 7000 fish cap. Fished about 3k times in swamp of sorrows, 1k in Shadowglen and 3k in Mulgore...still no luck. This is the only achieve I'm missing for my Salty title and I'm starting to think the drop rate is way too slow.

Must have spent over a day of play time trying for this achieve.

Comment by 959205

WOW 5 minutes after posting my previous message I finally got my 15 pound mud snapper.

Xzaar@Galakrond :P

so a total of just above 7k casts.

Comment by GizdaHUN

I get the 22 pound Lobster!

My experience is you can catch this rare only the evening.
Because i start fishing between 14:00-14:30 and i catch:

More than 350 simple lobster.
More the 200 Vinter Squid
And more than 150 trash. Clam, Reinforced Locked Chest, and some more.
After that more than 700 catch i got no one even rare Lobster (Like 7 pound or 15 pound or.....)

I made a little rest and start again fishing after 18:00 i got only 80 simple lobster 80-100 another junk and 2 rare Lobster...
And finaly get the 22 Pound big guy.

Comment by Dobonard

Finally got 15 Pound Mud Snapper at Stonebull Lake.

Casts:1567

60.6% 951x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
37.3% 585x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
<1% 9x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
<1% 8x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
<1% 5x Minor Mana Potion
<1% 2x Minor Healing Potion
<1% 2x Journeyman's Boots
<1% 1x Fine Scimitar
<1% 1x Burnt Leather Breeches
<1% 1x Plans: Copper Chain Vest
<1% 1x Malachite
<1% 1x 15 Pound Mud Snapper!

Hope this helps.

Comment by 846438

Today at 13:05:00 I managed to catch Steelscale Crushfish at darkmoon faire boardwalk.
I was fishing at 525 skill + 30 from fishing rod bonus in open waters.

It took me about 500 casts to get it.

Before I spent loads of time in mulgore and howling fjord with no result.
I would recommend fishing in darkmoon faire if you only need achievement.

Good luck everyone. Dont give up. You will eventually get yours :)

http://i.imgur.com/VJ3iC.jpg

Comment by dukerattlehead

Just caught my 15 Pound Mud Snapper from Stonebull Lake in Mulgore stood opposite the fishing trainer Uthan Stillwater at (43.6, 63.0). Here are my stats:

Total Casts: 3459
Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 2104 (60.83%)
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 1283 (37.09%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 27 (0.78%)
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 21 (0.60%)
Minor Mana Potion: 11 (0.32%)
Minor Healing Potion: 8 (0.23%)
Bloated Smallfish: 4 (0.12%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1 (0.03%)

Took me about a week of evenings causally clicking away while watching TV episodes. Fishing Buddy addon is a must!

Comment by 965525

Got this after not even 10 minutes of fishing. Had the Jeweled Fishing Pole, Weather Beaten Fishing Hat, Sharpened Fish Hooks, Boots of the Bay, and was fishing in Lake Cauldros of Howling Fjord. Aw yeah.

EDIT: I got the Dark Herring...kinda forgot to mention that.

Comment by 179738

Well, I don't know if the drop rate on the Dark Herring has been massively boosted or what, but I've managed to catch 2 of them in the lake at Howling Fjord in the past couple days. Total casts to catch both of them (and I'm not joking here) = around 20-25.

After I caught the first one (after 10 casts) I thought I must just be extremely lucky. I went back there today to try to catch the turtle mount and another Dark Herring dropped after around 15 casts.

Although I'm not complaining, having this kind of "luck" seems suspicious - I suspect the drop rate on the herring has been boosted.

Now if only I could have the same luck catching the turtle mount...

Comment by 958020

Just caught my steelcscale crushfish today to finish the accomplished angler achi. Been everywhere recommended here and done thousands of casts. Guess it was just my turn. Caught mine off the floatilla right of the pier in Darkmoon Island.

Comment by Jacus

Caught mine on darkmoon island, just off the pier. Took around 200 casts to catch the steelscale crushfish and the sea ponny pet.

Comment by Shiggle

Set up camp on Yojamba Isle earlier today and prepared to spend a few hours fishing. I caught Steelscale Crushfish within 20 minutes. Had Jeweled Fishing Pole, Weather Beaten Hat and Sharpened Fish Hooks.

Comment by 974278

For the 15 pound I'm on cast 3k something got 14 12 and 17 10 ...

Comment by ndoty87

Finally got this achievement. It took me 4 days of non-stop farming. I started after the Dark Herring, but gave up after over a thousand casts presented nothing and went after the 15 Pound Mudfish like others had done. I got it after 1068 casts. In total I had 636 - Brilliant Smallfish, 411 - Longjaw Mudsnapper, 7 - Minor Mana Potion, 6 - 10 Pound Mudfish, 6 - Minor Healing Potion, 1 - 12 Pound Mudfish and 1 - 15 Pound Mudfish. I had a huge sigh of relief when it was done, but that is how it works.

Comment by Thunderbuns77

To get my 15 Pound Mud Snapper, I also fished at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore, right in front of the fishing trainer, at coordinates 44.3, 61.1.

My caught items:

413 Raw Brilliant Smallfish 60.11% drop rate

263 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 38.28% drop rate

3 10 Pound Mud Snapper .01% drop rate

2 12 Pound Mud Snapper .01% drop rate

1 Small Red PouchSmall Red Pouch .01% drop rate

3 Minor Mana Potion .01% drop rate

1 Minor Healing Potion .01% drop rate

1 15 Pound Mud Snapper .01% drop rate

So, as of Patch 4.3.3, this is still possible. Good luck, and keep at it!

Comment by 973885

Just caught my Dark Herring today. Here is a slight number and time crunch:

Spent approximately 3 hours farming, caught 218 Fangtooth Herring, 138 Pygmy Suckerfish, 10 Reinforced Crates and 7 Crystallized Water and 1 Dark Herring.

Items used:Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole (+30 fishing), Weather Beaten Fishing Hat (+5 fishing), and the lure from the hat +75 fishing. I was also 525 fishing skill when i started.

According to my simple math, the percentage of dark herring to fish caught was .004%

Zone: Howling Fjord, Winters Breath Lake, just beneath Gjalerbron, south east of Camp Winterhoof.

Hope this helps my fellow fisherman!
Cheers!

Gongshoww.

Ps. Great fast respawn rates in the lake never had to wait for pool respawns. Farming was consistent :)

Comment by 847079

As of Patch 4.3 i fished in Stonebull Lake in Mulgore.

This is what i got before i managed the achieve.

187 Raw Brilliant Smallfish.
95 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
3 12Pound Mud Snapper
2 10Pound Mud Snapper
3 Minor Healing Potion
1 Minor Mana Potion
1 Lumberjack Axe

1 15 Pound Mud Snapper.

Fishing is 525 with + 100 lure.

My advice is don't give up guys, you will get it eventually, im not a lucky person when it comes to things dropping in wow.

Comment by 346524

Server: Frostmourne US
Server Time: 11:46 PM
Caught: 15 Pound Mud Snapper
Addons: Fishing Buddy
Fishing Gear: Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat, High Test Eternium Fishing Line,
Arcanite Fishing Pole, Heat-Treated Spinning Lure, Captain Rumsey's Lager
Total Used Fishing Skill: 525+210

At first I was chasing the Dark Herring by fishing in the Fangtooth Herring pools all around Howling Fjord (map).
Got to 889 casts (29%) and then decided this wasn't working. Stopped fishing in pools.

Switched to fish in open water at Winter's Breath Lake -- The lake where the maiden is frozen in the middle.
Here are the stats from catching the other 2264 casts (71%) in the area:

Bonescale Snapper: 1133 - 50%
Fangtooth Herring: 470 - 20%
Glacial Salmon: 355 - 15%
Pygmy Suckerfish: 257 - 11%
Crystallized Water: 29 - 1%
Reinforced Crate: 20 - <1% (Containing Cobalt Ore, Frostweave Cloth of Borean Leather Scraps)
--- TOTAL --- 2264 Casts (71%).

After hours of fishing over a few days I decided to give up and move on to catch something else.
I headed to Elwynn Forest where I read that many people have had luck in catching the 15 Pound Mud Snapper
Fished at both Crystal Lake and Thunder Falls for ~30 mins and caught 74 Raw Brilliant Smallfish and 36 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper

Decided to move again to; this time to Teldrassil where there are two very small lakes in Shadowglen.
Results are as follows:

Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 5 - 55%
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 3 - 33%
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1 - 11%
--- TOTAL --- 9 Casts (100%)

In conclusion; I was very lucky in this spot. Either that or RNG was on my side.
Just because I caught it in under 9 casts in this spot does not mean you will do the exact same.
It is still 1 in 1000 chance of catching any of these rare fish.

I wish you luck, all the best!
Salty Pulveriza - Frostmourne.

Comment by Ezmeralda

I was fishing in Darkmoon faire docks for the Sea Pony, and out of the blue I got the Steelscale Crusfish

Comment by Hatelock

Finally, after years of perseverance, I caught my first rare fish - Steelscale Crushfish. Thought I'd post some of my stats as this was one of the most frustrating, long-awaited achievements I've been after.

Howling Fjord - ~6.3k casts
Stonebull Lake- ~3.2k casts
Darmoon Isle - ~1.3k casts

Total Casts - Approx. 11,000

Started in Northrend at the Fjord to try and double up my chances on catching a rare fish and/or the turtle (which I still have not caught). Eventually tired there and moved to Mulgore like so many have suggested. While I didn't catch any there, I did notice that when it was raining I caught many more 10,12,17 Pound Mudsnapper than usual (I'm sure its just WoW voodoo talking but that was my rng).

Finally, decided to try my luck at DMF grounds. I actually caught the crushfish earlier that day, but for some reason it did not loot it and no credit for the achieve was received. At about the same time some people on the isle were talking in general chat about the dmf daily games bugging (just my luck /frownieface). Continued to fish off the western coast and BAM!; caught my rare.

For all of you out there with terrible rng like myself, I just want to say keep at it! There were countless days I wanted to bash in the screen I was so mad at this achievement. Some days you feel like saying "f#@$ this! I'm cancelling!" But, keep at it and you will get it. My total fish/other things caught is almost at 13,000 and still no turtle. So there are a lot of us out there that don't get lucky and get this with 1,000 casts or less. Like Les Claypool would say... FISH ON!

Comment by Cellworgen

I followed the advice of the top post and went to Stonbull Lake in Muldor....after killing the Horde Fishing Trainer...i fished.....then killed him again....and fished....this went on for like an hour....but long story short I got the 15lb Mudjaw Snapper in 154 Casts....im so happy.....but if you dont get it this quick....please keep trying....i was just lucky!

Happy Fishing

Comment by 992266

stonebull lake is a dud for me after over 2000 fish i have yet to get the 15 pounder time to try somewhere new

Comment by 974044

17/05/2012 - 7 Casts then a 15 Pound Mud Snapper

compared to the 2000+ for ironjaw and 1000+ crafty this one was quick for me.

worth a punt if your in the region

Location: Thunder Falls, Elwynn Forest (standing just beside the waterfall)

Comment by 931975

Got this as Alliance, fishing in Crystal Lake near Goldshire for the 15 pound Mud Snapper. With the help of the Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat (Along with its lure ability) and the Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole.

Catch List (Not in the order received):

x8 Minor Healing Potions
x5 Minor Mana Potions
x2 Bloated smallfish = 2 Malachites
x1 Pellet Rifle
x1 Fine Scimitar

x1029 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
x660 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper

x13 10 Pound Mud Snapper
x4 12 Pound Mud Snapper

x1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Total casts: 1724

According to Xinhuan's post, Xinhuan states that the El's Anglin forums mentions approximately a 1 in 2000 of catching any of the rare fish for the achievement. If the odds are still accurate, then I'd say I got mine rather late. I still thought it was fun and very rewarding when I finally caught mine. Best of luck out there and don't give up!

Comment by 993234

Just got this at stonebull lake 21:39 server time, sylvanas EU alliance.

525 + 75 + 30 + 5 fishing lvl
Total (at this location, got around 2k more on other locations ) 826

Brilliant smallfish 487 59.0%
longjaw mudsnapper 320 38.7%
10 pound 0,7%
healing pot 4 0,5%
mana pot 3 0,4%
Bloated smallfish 2 0,2%
Pattern: red linen robe 1 0,1%
12 pounder 1 0,1%
billy club 1 0,1%
15 pound mud snapper 1 0,1%

:D

Comment by 975137

Tried in Teldrassil for about 500 casts and nothing. Went to Howling Fjord and fished out of pools in the river/lakes and caught a Dark Herring in under 150 casts.

Comment by 159076

Mulgore : Stonebull Lake
Totals: 199 Skill: 525+25
Brilliant Smallfish (128 : 64.3%)
Longjaw Mud Snapper (69 : 34.7%)
Minor Healing Potion (1 : .5%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper (1 : .5%)

Final Analysis of data = RNG FTW!

GL all. Hope you get it quickly! (pls don't hate, just relaying my experience)

Comment by 857260

Stonebull Lake, just northeast of the village:

Time fishing: 7 mins
Gear: Nat's Lucky Fishing Pole and Heat-treated Spinning Lure (Total 525+175)
Caught: 26 Fish
16 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
8 - Raw Mudjaw Snapper
1 - 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1 - 15 Pound Mud Snapper (Achievement).

Comment by Jaci

First, I tried to catch the 29 pound salmon despite the 1/10,000 chance to get it (just because I love salmon in real life). I fished in Blasted Lands for about 3 hours and didn't catch any special salmon. I was bored so, I went to Stonebull Lake in Mulgore, to catch the 15 Pound Mud Snapper (around 1% chance of drop). I fished about more 2 hours and I got it! =D

But, before, I caught:

277 - Raw Brilliant Smalfish
174 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
5 - 10 Pound Mud Snapper
5 - 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1 - Infantry Belt (mail)
1 - 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Total fished = 463.

That's it. I got my "Salty" title too. And, after the achievement to win a Fishing Contest, this was the hardest one for me. =)

Comment by DalianHaloriel

Imo, this achievement really isn't that bad. If you do exactly as Cyst describes above (top comment in this feed), one will get...

LOTS of Brilliant Smallfish

A good amount of Longjaw Mud Snapper

A couple pounders here and there(maybe), for example 10 Pound Mud Snapper or 12 Pound Mud Snapper. Personally, I caught both but many people will never see one.

Maybe a mana potion or two.

After a couple hours, I caught the beauty 15 Pound Mud Snapper, no camping, no fishing for days, none of that nonsense. Just a couple Elixir of Water Walking and my trusty Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat.

It all depends, but I believe that Stonebull Lake in Mulgore is by far the best place to complete One That Didn't Get Away

Comment by calligo

I got this from Stonebull Lake in Mulgore. I didn't track how many casts it took but it was less than 100 so I guess I got lucky.

Comment by Frankcoef

I'm on 2k+ cast now with 525 skill.
fishing at stonebull lake in Mulgore.

got around 20+ 10 lbs mud's
12-16 12 lbs mud's

still 0 15 lbs mud

also got 6 of those fish u can open. forgot to name..

dunno but it doesn't really drop :(

Comment by tridan

I'm another that had success at Stonebull Lake. After well over 2000 casts in Winter's Breath Lake trying for the herring, I switched over to Stonebull and caught the 15 lb mud snapper after 432 casts:

244 - brilliant smallfish
174 - mud snapper
6 - 10 lb. mud snapper
5 - 12 lb. mud snapper
2 - minor healing potion
1 - 15 lb. mud snapper

Comment by 912837

Stonebull Lake in Mulgore at Loc: 44.5, 60.2 Fishing skill: 525+100 lure + Captain Rumsey's Lager

1 hour

Not so bad for me here thankfully:

35 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
33 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
2 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Comment by AlexxiaGurubashi

Total Casts: 657

393 Brilliant Smallfish
256 Longjaw Mud Snappers
5 10 Lbs Mud Snapper
2 12Lbs Mud Snapper
1 15 Lbs Mud Snapper

Stonebull Lake

1 Transformers Dark Side Of Moon
1/2 of Hostel III

All in all pretty painless.

Comment by Lhmargentdawn

Just caught my 15 Pound Mud Snapper!

Location: Stonebull Lake in Mulgore

Total Casts: 545
Brilliant Smallfish: 331 (60.7%)
Longjaw Mud Snapper: 206 (37.8%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 6 (1.1%)
Mana Potion: 1 (0.2%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1 (0.2%)

Now I just need to win that damn fishing contest for the title....

Lhm
Heroic Outcasts
EU-Terenas

Comment by 1014647

I already had the turtle so went for the 15 pound mud snapper.

Logged into my horde mage and fished at Stonebull lake in Mulgore right in front of the fishing trainer. Caught about 300 things including 10 and 12 pound mud snapper but no 15 pounder.

The next day I logged into an alliance druid and went to Teldrassil. Spent about 150 catches at Lake Al'Ameth and caught about the same stuff. I did notice that the catch rate here was about 55% brilliant smallfish and 45% mud snapper. In Mulgore the it was more like 65% smallfish and 35% mud snapper. So I thought I was onto something.

But then I noticed all the folks talking about Shadowglen. Went there and had my 15 pounder in about 50 catches. Who knows if there is something to this or my RNG simply caught up with me. But if you are frustrated try there fro a bit and see what happens.

Comment by 310319

Caught on my 61st cast. 15 pound mud Snapper at Crystal lake.

Comment by 832808

54.52 @ Stonebull Lake in Mulgore.

Based on comments here I started fishing for this at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore with a 635 fishing skill, after spending a few hours and about 1500+ casts later I gave up. Two days later I figured I'd give it another shot... and sure enough after about five minutes I got it, a 15 pound mud snapper. It's just sheer luck. Hope that helps

Comment by fr4nnie

I spent about 30min in mulgore fishing for it before getting a bit bored. I decided to go get all the schools in Northrend and got it from a Dark Herring in the Fangtooth Herring school, first cast.

I was also rather lucky on my pool hunting going over skettis I thought I'd try my luck to get the magical crawdad. I got it Mr Pinchy first cast and the pet I was rewarded on the first cooldown. Wondering if the odds have been recently looked changed?

Comment by Dudash

I've been farming the tastyfish schools that appear during the STV fishing tourney for the rare items that you can turn in for prizes for a few weeks now. Specifically the fish for the boots. Ive already won the event before so idc about winning it. Anyways, today there was about 5min left until the tastyfish schools disappeared, I had been fishing since the tourney started, had gotten no rare fish, and I fished up the Rockhide Strongfish. I got the Accomplished Angler achieve because this was the only achievement I was missing but I was disappointed cus when I saw that I had fished up a green quality item, it got my hopes up thinking I fished one of the rares, which I did. Just not the type of rare I was trying to get >.<

Aside from all that off-topic nonsense, I came to say a good time to try to get one of the rare fish needed for this achievement if you hate sitting somewhere like mulgore just hoping you get one would be during the fishing event in STV because there's multiple things you can acquire during the event.

Comment by 661400

I finished this one in about 10 casts while doing a fishing daily in Mulgore. My husband started yelling about how long it took him to get that achieve.

Comment by evlyxx

It is possible to get this achievement with no skill level at all. I have actually lucked this on my first cast on a toon.

http://a.yfrog.com/img862/9707/ehul.jpg

Comment by Embrae

Stonebull Lake (43:60)

1482 Casts

874 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
576 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
12 10 Pound Mud Snapper
8 12 Pound Mud Snapper
5 Minor Mana Potion
4 Minor Healing Potion
1 Long Bo Staff
1 Beatstick
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Comment by Mamaizzy

I just fished up Steelscale Crushfish on Darkmoon Island at 67, 93. I was farming for a Sea Pony and was just making my rounds of the island when I just stopped south of the cove. First cast Steelscale Crushfish dropped and I got my achievement.

Comment by 1018757

just got this ach to finish of my salty ach , i fished on the darkmoon island and got the steelscale crushfish , not in the pools but open water , took me a long time of fishing , at least 8 hours .. but worth it :) good luck to you all going 4 this ach

Comment by vixeliaeonar

im wondering if this achievement is still valid...I have cast over 5k in each one of the areas for each fish with no lucky not a single one. Ive been fishing 12hrs day at dmi for this entire week, on the boardwalk, besides the boardwald, in the water, walking on water, on the ramp, next to the ramp...nothing...nothing at all.

Comment by 1021050

I've caught a 15 lb mud snapper twice at the Stonebull Lake in Mulgore.

Comment by Antoinett

You all are going to Hate me, i followed Cyst's directions and stood on a rock across the river from the fishing trainer. I cast 3 times and caught the 15 pound Mudfish. Granted i have been trying on and off for years but i'm SO glad i saw his post.

good luck everyone, meet you at the Salty peoples hangout.

Comment by Leetbab

I caught the 15 pound Mud Snapper today.
Went to Stonebull Lake in Mulgore a couple of days ago and started fishing. 1112 casts in total over three days, and I got it.

Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 664
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 364
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 8
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 7
Minor Healing Potion: 3
Minor Mana Potion: 2
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1

Also got Mr. Pinchy and the pet on the first wish today with less than 50 casts. I guess it's my lucky day!

Comment by 1027032

After winning the Kalu'ak Fishing Derby this morning, decided I wanted to try and finish up the last two achiev's to get the title Salty. I read a number of people suggesting Shadowglen and headed there. Only, when I went to cast, it gave me a message saying there weren't any fish there.

Guess I'm off to Mulgore..

Comment by Slizzershot

Went to Shadow Glen in Teldrassil. There are no fish there anymore.
Flew down to Lake Al'Ameth. Those fish went somewhere!
Results:
10: Raw Brilliant Small Fish
10: Raw Longjaw Snapper
1: 10 pound Mud Snapper
DING
1 15 pound Mud Snapper

Good Luck!

Comment by 576561

On Cho'gall atm, we are waiting for the Darkmoon Rabbit to spawn. Since there is little info on its spawn timer several of us decided to fish.

3 of us have gotten this achievement in the last 20 mins. We are on Darkmoon Island, just standing on the shore outside of the cave where the Darkmoon Rabbit apparently spawns.

We all fished up "Steelscale Crushfish". We were not fishing from schools or anything, just off the shore.

I am maxed and I was also using the engineering lure "Heat-Treated Spinning Lure", goodluck, I hope it is as easy for you as it was for us!

Comment by 1030998

huzzah!

15 Pound Mud Snapper

Total Casts: 339

Caught at Lake Al'Ameth, Teldrassil.
Not that it really matters, but was amusing myself by standing on the top of the curve on that little boat by the dock when I caught it. Being convinced I had thousands of casts ahead of me, and no hope for the future seemed to bring me decent luck. Happy fish hunting!

Comment by serdarturk

I have fished at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore for 15 Pound Mud Snapper, for the achievement:

Skill: 525+33
sometimes i used some lures and Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat

i did approximately 8000+ casts in there and get achievement at the first day of mists of pandaria.

when i fished 15 Pound Mud Snapper i got 572 skill.

Good luck and be patient for who want that achievement :)

Comment by HolyShield

Is it possible to get this achievement fishing in Pandarian zones (schools) too?

Comment by 881202

Just fished 15 Pound Mud Snapper =)

Stonebull Lake, Mulgore
No lures, skill 600+40, Arcanite Fishing Pole equipped

Total casts: 1380

848 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
514 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
7 12 Pound Mud Snapper
5 10 Pound Mud Snapper
2 Minor Healing Potion
1 Bloated Smallfish
1 Pattern: Red Linen Robe
1 Minor Mana Potion
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper \o/

It took some weeks to get it, less than it took to get Old Ironjaw (one entire year). Don't lose faith, as of today the achievement is still obtainable at Stonebull Lake =)

Good luck everyone!

Comment by 1065597

Has anyone completed this achievement since 5.1 was implemented?

Comment by twosheds76

For awhile now this has been the last achievement I needed to get Salty. I've achieved the rest of the requirements on my main since he is my achievement hound. It's been awhile since I've tried for this and I've been leveling my alts lately.

I got this yesterday on my alt at the Darkmoon Faire. I fished up Steelscale Crushfish while on the fishing quest. My fishing skill was only 93 and I had the default fishing stick as my pole. I got it on the third cast.

Comment by sinestra139

I also just got Steelscale Crushfish from Darkmoon Faire this week. I'd given up on ever completing this one and was very surprised and pleased when it popped up on my first cast for the Darkmoon fishing quest. Fishing lvl 600, default rod.

Comment by 119239

Steelscale Crushfish after 478 casts at Darkmoon Boardwalk, also got Sea Pony on the 80th catch.

Comment by Bukowskaii

Started going for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper. Breakdown below.

Elwynn Forest - Crystal Lake
Time: ~15 Hours
Total Casts: 2654
600 Fishing + Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole + Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat + Lure from the hat = Skill 710

Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 1583 - 59.65%
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 1009 - 38.02%
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 19 - 0.72%
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 15 - 0.57%
Minor Mana Potion: 15 - 0.57%
Bloated Smallfish: 6 - 0.23%
Minor Healing Potion: 6 - 0.23%
Pattern: Fine Leather Gloves: 1 - 0.01%

Finaly got sick of that nonense and said, lets try something else. I highly reccomend you move to the Darkmoon Faire and pick up Steelscale Crushfish. Breakdown below.

Darkmoon Faire - Darkmoon Island (I fished just outside of the Darkmoon Rabbit Cave)
Time: ~1.2 hours
Total Casts: 207
600 Fishing + Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole + Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat + Lure from the hat = Skill 710

Raw Rainbow Fin Albacore: 128 - 61.84%
Oily Blackmouth: 53 - 25.60%
Firefin Snapper: 22 - 10.63%
Small Locked Chest: 1 - 0.48%
Waterlogged Crate: 1 - 0.48%
Sealed Crate: 1 - 0.48%
Steelscale Crushfish: 1 - 0.48%

There you have it. Hope this can help someone else.

Edit: Here's some statistics to help with why I think the Steelscale Crushfish is the better choice.

Steelscale Crushfish: ~0.13% according to wowhead. (I show as 0.48%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper: ~0.06% according to wowhead. (I show as < 0.01%)

For the sake of argument, I will use wowhead percentages as it is a MUCH larger sample. Clearly the drop rate is higher, but I'm going to look at catch distributions or "when can I expect to be sure to catch this"

Probability of catching it after n casts will be in the form
1-(1-p)^n or in english, one minus the odds of not catching the fish to the catch attempt power.

Click to see table of values.
Click to see Chart for Values.

So after say 1000 casts, 45.1% of people would have caught 15 Pound Mud Snapper while 72.7% of people would have caught Steelscale Crushfish.

Comment by Akitnaya

Got this achievement 2day w/o even fishing 4 it! I got the Steelscale Crushfish & the achievement pops up on my screen 2 my surprise. As an avid fisher in the game (YES, I like 2 fish! I no many of u think it's VERY boring,) I am always excited when I get fishing achievements of this sort. No luck w/the Turtle mount though. /sad face. =[

Comment by Alejadox

Guys, i can only say one thing...
Keep going, the worst thing is to read this "i Finally got" or "5 cast`s got it" and u just don`t fish it up...

But when you finally got it, you realise that is one of the best feelings to have on you in that sunny day that you equip your Fishing Pole and u catch that bastard 15 Pound Mud Snapper that was way to light 3 or 5 pounds...

I fished up 4k fishes just to pick it up...and i can say to u guys... Worth it all that.

Good Luck, and Have fun

Salty Alejadox

Comment by chinamike

Problem with waterfall at Ammen Ford! Don't JUMP IN!
I was just exploring, and decided to see if there was perhaps something hidden within the waterfall betweenthe Isles at Ammen Ford. Well, I strongly urge NOBODY to try jumping in as I did! When I came out, everything "Seemed fine" except...the "breathe" bar stayed hovering over my head even though I was no longer in water. I began to explore the little Island with the crash site (there was a path up through the cliffs toward the right, away from the waterfall). As I explored I noticed there were no creatures walking about. Long story short, I explored the ENTIRE Island with not a player, creature or otherwise on the Isle! It was completely VOID of anyone but ME! I then realized that perhaps by jumping into the fall, I had fallen into a "Game Twilight Zone", so I logged off, which I couldn't do, ended up just right clicking on the WoW client and closing. Restarted and BOOM! I was IN THE WATERFALL as if I had never left! Talk about freaky...

Comment by joubert1

This is what i got when fishing for the 15 pound mud snapper.
I was fishing at Thunder falls in Elwynn Forest at loc: 26.64 59.80

Brilliant Smallfish 932 caught
Longjaw Mud Snapper 641 caught
Bloated Smallfish 2 caught
10 Pound Mud Snapper 14 caught
12 Pound Mud Snapper 5 caught
Minor mana Potion 5 caught
Minor healing Potion 3 caught
Journeyman's Bracers 1 caught
Journeyman's boots 1 caught
15 pound Mud Snapper 1 caught

Total casts 1605. SIGH!

Comment by 1112192

Okay after trying for years to get a rare fish today was my day. Fishing at stonebull lake for roughly 1 hour i got :

135 x raw brilliant smallfish
76 x raw longjaw mud snapper
2 x minor mana potion
2 x 10 pound mud snapper
1 x 12 pound mud snapper
1 x 15 pound mud snapper.

It Would seem i got lucky however this is by far the first session i have done - on statistics i have fished up 9381 fish and other things caught.

Best of luck all im now going after ironjaw!

Comment by 1113537

Anyone get this achievement after the patch 5.2.0?
I've tried of about 1000 casts at the Darkmoon Island but no luck :(

Comment by vespertino

The person who created this achievement must be a sadist. I lost count after a lot of time trying to do this. Yet I'm still trying. Just today I lost count after about 1500 casts at Darkmoon Island. I don't get the point of making something so random. If they want us to spend more time in the game we're already doing it. But this is plain torture.

Comment by 1056800

Finally caught the 15 lb mud snapper at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore right behind the Fishing Trainer. 1038 casts.

Comment by 1112454

Started at Stonebull Lake with a fishing skill of 1. I am now fishing skill of 600, AND NO RARE FISH! It takes catching 1737 fish and other junk to get to 600 (for those who are wondering how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop). At approx 40 fish per 10min lure, that takes 7.2 hours. This is not counting the (conservatively) 300+ casts I made on my already 600 toon. I thought the Derby would be the hard achievement for Salty, and the 4 hour grind for coins was bad enough. I am ready to give up on this. Any thoughts?

Comment by vespertino

After fishing for a very long time on my main with all the extras for fishing skills (700+) in Darkmoon Island and Crystal Lake, I got sick of it and almost gave up.

I kept on fishing on my alt whose fishing skills was up to 150 and didn't bother to upgrade it. As I was waiting for LFR, I decided to go to one of the less popular fishing areas for this achievement, Darrowmere Lake in WPL for the 32 Pound Catfish. After a few casts I though that there's no point of doing that since I wasn't even using a fishing rod or bait. All I got is sickly fish and driftwood in my few casts along with a couple of fish... I kept on going but I don't think I did more than 15 casts. All of a sudden... BAM! I got it.

The most important thing is that I stood at the coordinates that were pinpointed on the map in Wowhead (68.60, 60.30), since there aren't many in that location I made it a point to stand exactly there and cast.

Good luck!

Comment by 660419

I got my 15 Pound Mud Snapper today from Mirror Lake in Elywnn Forest after 469 casts. I leveled fishing for one of my toons to 372. I did not think I would finish it this fast. I intended to level my alts' fishing levels. Be patient and take breaks so that you don't totally give up :-)

Comment by Philster043

Blaaah. Decided to spend some time on the morning of the 4th of July to try to fish for the 15 pound Mud Snapper at Stonebull Lake at 44.3, 61.6, same place where Cyst fished. Five hours later (6:14 AM EST - 11:10 AM EST), a total of 1100 casts, and completely no luck. I am probably going to abandon that location and fish somewhere else next time just for the sake of my sanity.

For the record though, I did keep a tally of what I caught there:

616 raw brilliant smallfish
462 raw longjaw mud snappers
9 10 pound mud snappers
6 minor mana potions
2 12 pound mud snappers
2 minor healing potions
1 long bo staff
1 bloated smallfish
1 pattern: red linen robe.

Good luck people. I'll probably try Darkmoon Island next when it comes back.

EDIT: On second thought, after reading some comments, I'm guessing the Steelscale Crushfish isn't as easy anymore to get there. Dang.

Comment by souxsie

ok i contacted a gm and specifically asked him if you can still catch this lil fishy on darkmoon isle with max fishing. he basically said yes but i submitted another ticket asking for more clarification on the matter. screenshot submitted

edit- a gm just contacted me in my reply to his reply :) he said the steelscale crushfish will not drop on darkmoon isle if you have max fishing

Comment by Violante

All right. After doing this since 1:00pm EST 7/23/2013... and thinking heavily about hurting myself... I finally got it at 1:19am 7/24/2013.

Heat Treated Spinning Lure - +150 for 15 minutes.
Bone Fishing Pole (because I'm not cool enough for the sparkly one) - +30
600 Fishing Skill

Totals: 738
Brilliant Smallfish: 451
Longjaw Mud Snapper: 273
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 4
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 4
Minor Mana Potion: 2
Minor Healing Potion: 2
Bloated Smallfish: 1
15 Pound Mudsnapper: 1

Caught it fishing in open water at Crystal Lake, Elwynn Forest.

On to the next achievement!

Comment by 1137616

Currently fishing for 15 Pound Mud Snapper in Mulgore.
Stats so far: 1616 total caught. Skill: 600
Brilliant Smallfish: 958
Longjaw Mud Snapper: 626
10 pound Mud Snapper: 11
12 pound Mud Snapper: 8
Minor Healing Potion: 7
Bloated Smallfish: 2
Minor Mana Potion: 2
Plans: Copper Chain Vest: 1
Burnt Leather Gloves: 1

I'm still on the grind.. Wish me luck :{

Comment by Dalk

Here's my data for getting the 15 Pound Mud Snapper. I don't have the percentage drop rate, sorry.

Skill: 600+110

Equipment:
Fishing Pole: Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole
Fishing Hat: Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat
Fishing Lure: Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat

Throws: 659
Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 388
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 256
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 6
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 3
Minor Mana Potion: 2
Minor Healing Potion: 1
Severing Axe of Power: 1
Bloated Smallfish: 1
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1

My data may be incorrect due to the fact that i might have been lucky. Some of you might have to fish for longer, or maybe shorter. This is just my data. Compare this with other peoples data and maybe you'll find something slightly more accurate!

<Salty Dalk>

Comment by 833527

At last I caught this fish! Woohoooo :-)

So far the stats are:

Stonebull Lake, 600 fishing skill

Total: 2360
Brilliant Smallfish: 1419 (60.1%)
Longjaw Mud Snapper: 907 (38.4%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper: 14 (0.6%)
12 Pound Mud Snapper: 6 (0.3%)
Minor Healing Potion: 6 (0.3%)
Minor Mana Potion: 4 (0.2%)
Bloated Smallfish: 2 (0.1%)
Flanged Mace: 1 (0.0%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper: 1 (0.0%)

Signed,
Salty Ophion

Comment by garym

Just got it today with SALTY !

45:60 Stonebull Lake
Totals: 1227 | Skill 600+155 {755}
Brilliant Smallfish (759)
Longjaw Mud Snapper (437)
10 Pound Mud Snapper (13)
12 Pound Mud Snapper (7)
Minor Mana Potion (6)
Bloated Smallfish (2)
Minor Healing Potion (1)
Burnt Cloak (1)
15 Pound Mud Snapper (1)

Comment by 1187456

Let me tell you a story, and like all good stories it starts with betrayal.
It was a Friday night, not to long ago. A young Rogue went out for a quick drink with a friend. One drink became two and after two he can't remember.
He stepped out of the tavern, and as a member of the alliance, held himself with great pride. Tripping on the smallest stone and stumbling with the grace of a Dwarf, he made his way home.
…...opening his laptop.......”how did I get here?.....o-well” raised the cursor over that wonderful yellow “W” and pushed down. A warming melody played out and enveloped the Rogue, a song of such mystery and lure could only have been created by the titans themselves.
After a few attempts at typing his password he finally logged on and found himself in a familiar location.

Stepping out of the The Golden Keg and into the night air he inhaled the fresh smell of furnaces, Dwarfs. Urchins darted about on their flying mounts at great speed “back in my day we used to be happy with 100% earthbound mounts, kids of today” he said to nobody in particular. Mounting up the Rogue grabbed the reins, cantered across the city and out of the main gates. After a time he found himself in an undisturbed glen with a still, calm pond insight. The stars reflected angelically on the surface and a dragonfly skittered above a layer of fog.
This must be the pool the stories around Goldshire speak of ,ostensibly there's a great Mudsnapper that lives at the bottom, just waiting for a careless Gnome to dip his feet.

Donning his new hat he flung the lure in to its depths, he felt lucky the special kind of luck you get from bottles.
Ripples started to circle the line, rapidly it dipped down the Rogue pulled with all his strength. Hovering in front of him......a brilliant Smallfish. Again he tossed the line but this time it was different, the line went taught and the tip was being pulled down.....further and further it was dragged until the tip gingerly touched the surface. His attention suddenly snapped back and he thrust out at the lure, with all the strength of Grom Hellscream's killing blow against Mannoroth he struck it. A grand Mudsnapper hung from the rod, 12pounds, good but not good enough.

Time is a funny thing it shoots by when your enjoying yourself, stretches out when your bored and disappears entirely when your drunk.
Thirty minutes flew by and the lure kept flying. The alcohol and weariness had started to take its toll but the fatigued Rogue still stood. Wearing false hope, he knew he needed his bed roll soon.
In......out.....in.....out......in......out a concussive boom echoed out and the screen was doused in gold. “Achievement unlocked: One that didn't get away”. The Rogue's empty eyes surveyed the screen, the world twisitng around him........ESC........Exit game.......BED

Awaking from a kebab pillow the rogue had an aura of disappointment about him. It felt like he had won a grand prize, but couldn't remember what.
Kids don't drink and game its not worth it.

Comment by karlski

Of all the people who are grinding for the Salty title, it seems they are all stuck on the same achievement One That Didn't Get Away - Achievement - World of Warcraft

These rare fish all have a drop rate of around 1/10,000....

One of the rare fish, however, Steelscale Crushfish - Item - World of Warcraft can be fished up during DMF, and is A LOT more common than the others. The fish from DMF now scale, so you will have a high chance to catch one of these lvl 20 fish when you are between lvl 100 and 150 fishing. If you exceed 150 without having caught the fish, try again with another toon

What you need:

Access to DMF
Fish from 100-150 anywhere around the south of DMF island with Auto-loot ON

And that's basically it...! Save yourself hours of fishing by following this fairly simple guide and the Salty title shall be yours in no time!

Tokon @ Darkspear - Community - World of Warcraft
I got mine last night, first time fishing 100-150 on a new character.

Comment by 1041472

Okay I read this thinking I would get the Dark Herring in like a 1000 casts based on other people's experiences. I stopped keeping track after 5000. I'm not too much ahead of that because I've all but given up. I was distraught and tried to explain my misery in trade and someone whispered saying he's been trying to get it since the cheevo came out and he thinks he's near 25,000 casts. If you get lucky you get lucky. Just know I've probably already spent a whole day in game doing this and I don't want to think about that other poor guy.

Comment by riinuka

Target : 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Location : Started at Thunder Falls in Elwynn, moved to Wellspring Lake in Teldrassil. I really hate Elwynn in general, so I left after like 20 casts lol.

I was reading this comment page when I fished up the Snapper. Good luck, maybe.

54 Casts -

31 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
22 Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

** The pools in Shadowglen, Teldrassil now give the "There aren't any fish here" error. Don't waste your time going to them. Wellspring Lake works - the north/south river .. thing.

Comment by Ouhalla

Just to confirm what riinuka said, Wellspring Lake is the place to go. I wasted 4 hours at Stonebull and Crystal Lake. Went to Wellspring Lake and got 15lb Mud Snapper in about 20 minutes max

Comment by Svenning

Ok, so I just did this over the past couple of days, and here are my stats, collected from Fishing Buddy.

After reading about, I started over in Moonglade, just to try it out (was on my was to Teldrassil, where I'd read it was best. And open water fishing, which is simple and easy to do while distracted with a movie or a book at the side!)

Total casts = 34
Moonglade, Moonglade(11%) and Lake Elune'ara (88%)
27 Raw Greater Sagefish - 90%
1 Raw Mithril Head Trout - 3%
1 Raw Redgill - 3%
Moonglade
2 Raw Greater Sagefish 50%
1 Iron Bound Trunk 25%
1 Oily Blackmouth 25%

so these are very incoclusive, I just didnt stick around here, pools weren't any fun and they didnt spawn pleasureably imho.

Heading over to Teldrassil

Teldrassil, Al'Ameth - 100% - 468 catches
275 Raw Brilliant Smallfish 58%
184 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 39%
4 12 Pound Mud Snapper 0%
2 Minor Mana Potion 0%
2 Minor Health Potion 0%
1 Pattern: Red Linen Robe 0%

So, sadly I turned away from Teldrassil as I grew impatient, knowingly that people had spent over tens of thousands catches for this achievement. I started reading more online, and it took me to Howling Fjord for the Dark Herring!

Howling Fjord. 356x catches

Howling Fjord 20% - 73 catches
41x Fantooth Herring 56%
28x Pygmy Suckerfish 38%
43x Crystallized Water 5%

Skorn 1% 4 catches
3x Fangtooth Herring 75%
1x Pygmy Suckerfish 25%

Steel Gate 4% 15catches
7 Fangtooth Herring 45%
6 Pygmy Suckerfish 40%
2 Crystallized Water 13%

Winter's Breath Lake, 74% 264 catches I HIGHLY RECCOMEND THIS PLACE, good nodespawns, easy to fish, do circles

141 Fangtooth Herring 53%
98 Pygmy Suckerfish 37%
11 Reinforced Crate 4%
10 Crystallized Water 3%
2 Glacial Salmon 0%
1 Bonescale Snapper 0%
1 Dark Herring 0%

And there we have it, I may now run showing my name and title proudly.

Yours

<Salty Parts>, EU Draenor.

Comment by gilgrand

I have been fishing the lake in New Tinkertown. Sitting in boat. Going for 15 lb mud snapper. fish caught :
956 raw brilliant smallfish
572 raw longjaw mud snapper
14 10 lb mud snapper
6 12 lb mud snapper
8 minor heal potions
1 minor mana potion
1 burnt cloak
1 bloated sunfish
1 15 lb mud snapper
Got the ach. Yea!

Comment by Samsavage

Like Gilgrand below me, I also just caught the 15lb Mud Snapper today, in tinkertown, standing in the boat.

I dont have any stats as I have been chasing this achiev off and on since early 2009, but I do know for a fact Ive put 50+ hours into it... SO glad its finally done.

So for you alliance that want a change of scenery, I can also confirm it drops in Iceflow Lake in New Tinkertown(I recommend standing in the boat, if nothing more than to just have fun :)

Cheers and best of luck to the rest!

Comment by abitsick

Caught the Dark Herring today, around noon realm time.

- No lures. No fishing pole. No fishing skill boosts of any kind.
- Fangtooth Herring pool at Winter's Breath lake (everyone's favorite spot).
- In total, over 12000 casts, BUT...
- ... Only 1400 in the last few days of trying, since it was the last achievement I needed.
- Still no Sea Turtle. Will be fishing MoP daily pool spawns instead for that.

Just posting to bolster your confidence. Don't give up. It's still in there as of the date this was posted.

Biggest tip? Just keep doing it, and distract yourself from the fact that you're doing it any way you can. Chat with people, queue for things, etc. Troll in general chat, or whatever you have to do to keep your sanity. I did arena and random BG queues for 3 days during.

Proof taken after the fact: http://i.imgur.com/M4h3HHv.jpg

Comment by nikpav

This is what I got when fishing for 15 Pound Mud Snapper, for the achievement:

Fishing at Wellspring Lake in Teldrassil at Loc: 44, 37

Skill: 600+110 (710)

627 casts

Brilliant Smallfish - 364 caught
Longjaw Mud Snapper - 247 caught
10 Pound Mud Snapper - 5 caught
12 Pound Mud Snapper - 5 caught
Minor Healing Potion - 2 caught
Minor Mana Potion - 3 caught
15 Pound Mud Snapper - 1 caught

Comment by mjaulestrange

In Mulgore, Bloodhoof Village, at - 44.3 61.1 - in ONLY 3 CASTS got 2 Raw Brilliant Smallfish and 15 pound mud snapper! Ach here ^^

Comment by moonglum

Tried for weeks to get this for the Salty title. Fished up loads of Herring in Howling Fjord, toon maxed out for fishing, no luck.
Then went after the 15lb Mud Snapper with another toon. Tried Wellspring Lake over 1000 casts, started at 512 skill finished at 600, no luck again. Mirror & Crystal lakes in Elwynn Forest over 600 casts and nothing.
Tried Stonebull Lake with one of my Horde toons starting at 350 skill equipped with Nat Pagle's Extreme Angler FC-5000, over 200 casts again nothing.
Then I came up with a cunning plan start fishing with another toon who had not fished before, get him up to 90 and hit DMF for the Steelscale Crushfish. Went to Mirror Lake at 31/61 equipped with a basic fishing pole and bright baubles to start leveling up my fishing. Caught 15lb Mud Snapper after about 36 casts!
Just goes to show this is completely random.

Comment by LexDozel

I *strongly* recommend going after the Rockhide Strongfish. I flew out here about 30 minutes into the Stranglethorn fishing event, so everyone was gone, and I caught it after an hour of fishing. There were rumors that this fish dropped more often than others since it's limited by an event, and I'm inclined to agree that the chance of getting this is pretty high. If you're like me and you're slowly going after the Salty title, spend the entire time if you can after the main event is over and knock out this achievement.

Comment by Constantime

I caught a 15 Pound Mud Snapper at Crystal Lake in Elwynn Forrest fishing off the dock at the fishing trainer. Caught him on about cast number 30, this is after days of farming Stonebull Lake and getting nothing.

***UPDATE***

I just caught another from the list on a second toon and got this again. This time I was fishing off of the dock at Mithril Harbor while waiting for the boat to come and I got the Steelscale Crushfish; which also doubles as a one-handed mace. Fishing skill of 212 with no lures.

Comment by 1266441

Got it 6/6/14. 15 Pound Mud Snapper from Stonebull Lake.

3058 casts.
(1807) Raw Brillaint Smallfish
(1183) Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
(25) 10 Pound Mud Snapper
(14) 12 Pound Mud Snapper
(10) Minor Healing Potions
(6) Random low level gear peices...(Simple Dagger, Pratice Sword, Warriors Girdle, Cadet's Bow, Training Sword of the Bear, Wood Chopper)
(5) Minor Mana Potion
(3) Bloated Smallfish (one opened to a Tigerseye, two opened to a Malachite)
(2) Tangled Fishing Line
(2) Driftwood
(2) Sickly Fish
(2) Weeds
(1) Tattered Cloth
(1) 15 Pound Mud Snapper!

Results may vary lol...Started this with an alt, went from 0-600 fishing skill in 1900 casts. Never used a fishing pole.

Note: this is probably just dumb luck, but I was only 5 casts deep from my position on the bridge here when I got him. (see picture)

Comment by Bodomi

I've finally caught the 15 Pound Mud Snapper!
I spent 2 Hours and 24 minutes in the Thunder Falls lake in Elwynn Forest
and about 7 hours in Stonebull Lake in Mulgore.

All the stuff I caught:
x1146 Raw Brilliant Smallfish.
x735 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper.
x14 10 Pound Mud Snapper.
x11 Minor Healing Potion.
x5 12 Pound Mud Snapper.
x3 Minor Mana Potion
x1 Lumberjack Axe.
x1 Pattern: Red Linen Robe.
x1 Hunting Rifle.
x1 Small Brown Pouch.
x1 15 Pound Mud Snapper.

Comment by Mashing

I've been fishing at Stonebull Lake for the last five days. In these five days, I've caught over 3300 fish, as has been displayed by my fishing counter in the statistics page, as I haven't done any other fishing since I started keeping track.

I've gotten at least a dozen of the 10 pounders, probably 6-8 of the twelve pounders, but I have yet to see the rare fish.

Anyone who has gotten theirs within a thousand casts should consider themselves remarkably lucky. Hopefully within a few days I can edit this post with a big smile on my face.

Edit: One month of casual fishing and another 3500 fish later, I finally got my 15 pounder after 7k~ casts at Stonebull lake.

Comment by Azzuna

Just fished up a Dark Herring in Howling Fjord. Only took about 5 or 6 Fangtooth Herring schools to find him. I started at Caldmere Lake and then started moving south; got it just before Cauldros Isle. ONLY ONE thing LEFT for my achievement!

Comment by Tangent45

Well...I never thought of myself as lucky.....but after only 137 casts...I caught my 15lb Mud Snapper. I fished right in front of the trainer at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore.

Comment by Lemiandros

caught my 15 pounder today, after a week of heavy fishing on my main w/ max fishing thought i'd try the DMF so logged on an alt, trained for fishing and just started fishing at crystal lake in elwynn to get up to 100 and then hit the fair, got to skill 92 and BAM. i see a recurring theme of trainers + low lvl fishing, might just be luck though

Comment by Argenteus

I stopped after 6,017 casts looking for a 15 pound Mud Snapper on Teldrassil, Elwynn and a few on Tinkertown.

No 15 pound Mud Snapper to be had!

Got 67 of the 10 and 12 pound variety though.

It seems like it keeps dropping so it might be worth the chance. Just be mindful it might take longer, much longer than it could.

Best of luck!

Comment by legionfalls

Got mine today at 6:09 PM server (Magtheridon Horde - US)
Caught at Wellspring Lake in Teldrassil (44, 36)

Breakdown is as follows:

Brilliant Smallfish - 2122
Longjaw Mud Snapper -1345
10 Pound Mud Snapper - 27
12 Pound Mud Snapper - 16
Minor Healing Potion - 10
Minor Mana Potion - 3
Bloated Smallfish - 2
Practice Sword - 1
Infantry Bracers - 1
Burnt Leather Bracers - 1
Pellet Rifle - 1
15 Pound Mud Snapper - 1
Total - 3530 Casts

Took me a few days to farm at roughly 2.5 hours per day, Max fishing plus Bone Fishing Pole & Nat's Hat w/ +150 lure.

Comment by 796957

Got this fish today. Standing next to the fishing trainer on Stonebull Lake.
1171 total casts.
693 Brilliant Smallfish
448 Longjaw Mud Snappers
16 10 pound Mud Snappers
7 Minor Healing Potions
2 12 pound Mud Snappers
2 Bloated Smallfish
1 Disciple's Cloak
1 Minor Mana Potion
1 15 pound Mud Snapper

Comment by StuartM

I fished this up in the lake next to the fishing trainer at Goldshire.
Here are the stats that confirm it is a 0.19% drop rate.

Raw Brilliant Smallfish x325
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x181
Bloated Smallfish x2
10 Pound Mud Snapper x1
12 Pound Mud Snapper x3
Minor Healing Potion x1
Minor Mana Potion x1
15 Pound Mud Snapper x1

Comment by 1367307

Got the 15 Pound Mud Snapper yesterday after 1272 casts at Stonebull Lake

- 789 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
- 458 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
- 6 10 Pound Mud Snapper
- 2 12 Pound Mud Snapper
- 9 Minor Mana Potion
- 5 Minor Healing Potion
- 1 Practice Sword
- 1 Bloated Smallfish
- 1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Don't give up. It just takes a while. Get your Salty title.

Comment by Zrgd

So my best advice to people trying to get these is just to fish the lake in Mulgore or the lake outside of Goldshire.
These have ridiculously low drop/fish rates 1/10000 or so.

Comment by caboosed

RNGesus was good to me today. 16th cast and I picked up 15 Pound Mud Snapper.

Comment by 1380107

Oct 6 2014 5:34 am EST
thanks to these posts I went to Goldshire and caught him on my 2nd cast! 15lb mudsnapper caught standing on dock next to next to trainer
I try for aobut 30 mins the other day went back and bam 2nd cast!

GL

Comment by Stouck

One That Didn't Get Away was a 1306 long fishing journey for me in Molgore Stonebull Lake.

Total Catch 1306, with 600fishing skill + 75 / 150 Lure.

Brilliant Smallfish (778 : 59.6%)
Longjaw Mud Snapper (498 : 38.1%)
10 Pund Mud Snapper (11 : 0.8%)
Minor Healing Portion (5 : 0.4%)
Minor Mana Potion (5 : 0.4%)
12 Pound Mud snapper(4 : 0.3%)
Bloated Smallfish (3 : 0.2%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper (1 : 0.1%)
Warrior Girdle (1 : 0.1%)

Comment by gambrah

I just caught my Dark Herring while fishing in a Fangtooth Herring Pool at Winter's Breath Lake in Howling Fjord. I have been after this achievement for 2 weeks, however in 10 minutes of fishing in the fangtooth pools I got it. I've fished hundreds of times in lakes of Goldshire, Tedrassil, & Ironforge going for the 15 lb catfish... but never caught one. Perhaps my RNG persistence finally paid off.. or perhaps this fish and this location has a higher payoff percentage. As some people have such little luck, it would seem I just got lucky... but if you haven't tried going for Dark Herring in Howling Fjord. I think it's time you try. Just call me Salty!

Comment by 1322991

You guys seem to be either very lucky or this is bugged like so many things since 6.0.2. I'm fishing at Stonebull Lake for days now, this is what I got so far:

- 2784 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
- 1771 x Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper
- 34 x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
- 22 x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
- 3 x Bloated Smallfish
- 2 x Malachite
- 1 x Tiger's Eye
- 1 x Flanged Mace
- 1 x Cadet's Bow
- 1 x Pioneer Cloak
- 1 x Disciple's Stein of the Eagle
- 9 x Minor Healing Potions
- 8 x Minor Mana Potions

no 15 Pound Mud Snapper so far. El's approx. fishing rate of 1 in 2000 doesn't seem to be right, or even close, at least not anymore. If I'll ever get this fish, which I highly doubt at this point, I'll probably never fish again, ever. Phew.

Comment by 1383209

Pretty easy to do IF you have patience! :P Took me over 6K casts...
Here is how you do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjRupRG4E6c

Comment by oneru

After countless of casts in several locations, I finally got it and finished my Salty!

Location: Zoram's Strand (Ashenvale)
Catch: Steelscale Crushfish
Fishing skill 635
Catches:

Raw Rainbow Fin Albacore - 175
Oily Blackmouth - 74
Firefin Snapper - 37
Small Locked Chest - 5
Waterlogged Crate - 4
Message in a Bottle - 1
Steelscale Crushfish - 1

Good luck to all others out there trying to get this. It's may be a pain, but they're out there, somewhere!.

Comment by Softclouds

To contribute data gained during WoD:

I followed Cysts tip (2008/11/11 (Patch 3.0.3)) and went to Stonebull Lake in Mulgore (~44, 61)

Got my 15 Pound Mud Snapper on my 625th cast with 735 fishing skill.

382 (61.12%)
231 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper (36.96%)
3 12 Pound Mud Snapper (0.48%)
3 Minor Healing Potion (0.48%)
2 Minor Mana Potion (0.32%)
1 Bloated Smallfish (0.16%)
1 Billy Club (0.16%)
1 Lumberjack Axe0.16%)
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper (0.16%)

As a bonus for you, fellow wowheaders, I'm sharing my 2 fishing macros!

#showtooltip Fishing
/equip *Bone Fishing Pole
/equip *Nat's Hat
/script if GetCVar("autoLootDefault") == "0" then SetCVar("autoLootDefault", "1");print("Autoloot On"); end
/cast Fishing

^Shows "Fishing" tooltip, equips fishing rod & hat, enables auto-loot and shows you an "Autoloot On"-message in your chat log ONLY when auto-loot goes from disabled to enabled. So it wont spam. And, of course, this macro will cast fishing on use.

#showtooltip Fishing
/stopcasting
/equip *Finkle's Flenser
/equip *Blackfire Crystal of the Merciless
/equip *Crown of Power
/script if GetCVar("autoLootDefault") == "1" then SetCVar("autoLootDefault", "0");print("Autoloot Off"); end

^Shows "Fishing" tooltip, ironically. Stops casting in order to equip main hand, followed by off hand (important, as you cannot equip off hand while having 2h equipped) aswell as headgear. Also disables autoloot and sends you a "Autoloot Off"-message in your chat log ONLY when it goes from enabled to disabled. So this one wont spam either.

Lines after *-marks are to be changed depending on what equipment you're using.
Got the first macro bound to Scroll Wheel-button, so I don't have to use more than my PC-mouse when fishing. Second macro is bound to Shift-Scroll Wheel-button. So whenever I'm done, I'll put my left hand into gaming position and just hit that shift button and boom, all set for action. Super easy and I love it!

DO NOT give up on this one. I actually got it on the very last cast I decided to do before hitting the bed.
Best of luck!

xoxo
//Softclouds

Comment by syelood

I've read a lot of these posts in here and that you keep saying dont give up.
As I write this I'm standing in Mulgore fishing my brains out. I've got over 18k fish and other this caught. I'm at a point where I am starting to get pissed off.

Been fishing for about 4,5 hours straight today, not to mention all the other days/hours I've put into this.

This is MADNESS!

Mad the odds never be in your favor keeps repeating in my head, when will this end!

Comment by 1438778

Yesterday I completed this achievement which I have been attempting on and off since 2012. I currently have 43,761 casts in Howling Fjord, I officially gave up and made my way to Thunder Bluff. 36 casts at Stonebull Lake and well.. I got my achievement.

I play as Alliance, I just fished across the lake directly in-front of the Fishing Trainer at Stonebull Lake to avoid the guard.

Comment by Puuh

Just got this achievement by fishing up the 15 pound Mud snapper in Mulgore at 43.3, 61.6.

Skill: 700+420 = 1120

Fishing items i used:
Ephemeral Fishing Pole + 100
Hightfish Cap + 100
Boots of the Bay + 15
Worm Supreme + 200
Ranger Gloves of the Beast - with the 5+ fishing enchant on it.

Throws: 171
Raw Brilliant Smallfish 103
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 64
12 Pound Mud Sapper 1
10 Pound Mud Sapper 1
Bloated Smallfish 1
15 Pound Mud Sapper 1

Comment by 1442790

After the bad luck that was fishing up the Giant Sewer Rat (something like 1800 catches), I started this one today.

97th cast in Thunder Falls I get the 15 Pound Mud snapper. I hope everyone else has that kind of luck :)

Comment by 1445635

Woohoo! Got it, was reading this very forum and went to stonebull lake as I was close by, thought I'd have a go, 74 casts and BOOM

Comment by dylacat

Roughly 7 hours of fishing, and 901 casts I got the 15# Mud Snapper in Mulgore.

Don't give up! You will eventually get it!

Comment by Chaospaint

Gonna have to add that after 5 years of hunting for that one fish for the past few months when in queue or waiting for raids ive been in mulgore fishing. Probably about 11-12 hours total. But i finally got that 15 Pounder yesterday. Dont give up! I fished in all the spots but found that because of the portals to TB that mulgore ended up being the easiest for me.

Good luck!

Comment by Graysmith

This achievement alone should award the "Salty" title because that's arguably how every person feels after accomplishing it.

Yeah, I'm still working on it and I'm already salty as hell about it.

Comment by MrKillsome

This is what I got when fishing for 15 Pound Mud Snapper, for the achievement:

Fishing at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore at Loc: 44.3, 61.1 (Just in front of the Fishing Trainer, Uthan Stillwater)

I used 54 minutes and caught

Raw Brilliant Smallfish x151
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x100
12 Pound Mud Snapper x1
10 Pound Mud Snapper x1
15 Pound Mud Snapper x1

Comment by bellringr

After reading the comments, I went to Lake Al'Ameth in Teldrassil. It took me 30 casts to get the 15 pound mud snapper.

Comment by Djuntas

I just want to post my history.

Last week after years off odd tries for STV tournament, realm-hopping finally did the trick for me.

So today I tough, why not fish for the herring like I did back inn WOTLK. So I would give it 30 minutes.

At around 20 minutes inn, I was thinking pools was abit scarce, so I realm hopped, and on that first pool after the realm hop the herring popped. Back inn WOTLK I did a fair ammount off tries for it, but didnt bother much, cause off STV contest.

Realm hop is a curse, a big one on wow, that ultimately destroyed WoW if you ask me, but my gut is it covinent if you abuse it.

Comment by Aldridge

Got this today in the Lake in mulgore, took me 35 mins with 69 raw longjaw mud snapper, 97 Raw brilliant smallfish, 4x 10 pound mud snapper, 15 pound mud snapper and a 12 pound mud snapper

Comment by Allfuid

Just putting this here to emphasize that this is ultimately an RNG game;mentioned Wowhead droprates, location and gear are irrelevant, fishing skill just needs to be high enough so that you don't fish up junk.
I have fished with skill 890 to 1140 using Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole, Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin'Boots and Nat's Hat or one of the two WoD fishing hats + Worm Supreme in :
- 3 lakes lakes in Elwynn + the pond behind the Blacksmith because that's where little Matt was heading when he said the fish didn't bite in Crystal Lake.
- Stonebull Lake in Mulgore
- Both Lakes in Teldrassil

I also briefly went to Howling Fjord to try and catch the Dark Herring after trying for 5k times for the snapper but quickly quit because the pool hopping was worse that casting over and over again.

Ended up catching it in Crystal Lake in Elwynn Forest after 7357 catches (not even counting the missed catches and the ones that didn't land correctly).

My catches:

Raw Brilliant Smallfish 4342
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 2805
12 Pound Mud Snapper 21
10 Pound Mud Snapper 59
Minor Mana Potion 16
Minor Healing Potion 18
Warrior's Girdle 1
Burnt Leather Boots 1
Journeyman's Cloak 1
Journeyman's Gloves 2
Disciple's Cloak 1
Pattern: Fine Leather Boots 1
Plans: Copper Chain Vest 1
Cadet's Bow 1
Notched Shortsword of Strength 1
Beatstick 1
Bloated Smallfish 1
Fangtooth Herring 51
Pygmy Suckerfish 32
15 Pound Mud Snapper 1

Sooo... happy hunting :)

Comment by Beeblespark

I have had 3.2k casts for this in Stormwind, 500 casts in Darkmoon Fair Island. After reading this again after having lost hope for about a week I went to teldrassil, turns out the two pools in Shadowglen don't have fish anymore, so I went to Wellspring Lake instead, which is closeby. Got the 15 pounder and my Salty in 6 casts.

Comment by Zydir

I decided to go for the 32 pound catfish in Northern Barrens with the intention to also make some gold off the Deviate Fishes I'd catch meanwhile (15g/each on my server). And the game is somewhat mocking me so far with both 17 and 19 pounders caught (a few of each), aswell as my first 22 pounder a little while ago... Soon™ I guess. Getting close to 7000 throws, will add catch statistics once I get the fat one for those interested in that kinda stuff.

Here's an edit: at almost 25000 casts total now in Lushwater Oasis. Took a long break to get all the archaeology stuff done, but now it's back to Northern Barrens... if it was personal before I don't know what it is now, I need to prove to myself that this fat fish is catchable here!

Comment by Kaatya

Being a loyal Hordie, I stayed in Mulgore and fished for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper from Stonebull Lake.

Fishing Skill 700

Equipped items:
Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat (+5 fishing skill, remember to apply lure every 10 min)
Boots of the Bay (+15 fishing skill)
Jeweled Fishing Pole (+30 fishing skill)

Took 224 catches and approximately 1 hour.
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper
1 12 Pound Mud Snapper
3 10 Pound Mud Snapper
132 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
82 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper

Good luck to all my fellow fishers, hope this helps!

Comment by 1421390

Well after close to 5 hours and exactly 1000 items fished up in Elwynn Forest (fishing dock at crystal lake), I have decided that I will try it again another time.

Stats: 1000 Catches with a constant fishing skill of 824 trying to get 15 Pound Mud Snapper at a .06% chance
Raw Brilliant Smallfish = 607 (60.7%)
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper = 377 (37.7%)
12 Pound Mud Snapper = 8 (.8%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper = 4 (.4%)
Malachite = 1 (.1%)
Minor Mana Potion = 1 (.1%)
Pioneer Cloak = 1 (.1%)
Bloated Smallfish = 1 (.1%)

You may be looking at these comments to try and find a way to cut corners with this one but you just have to pray to Poseidus and Nat Pagle that the fish will bite. Good luck, anglers.

Comment by Shyru

Fished at the traditional place in Mulgore. (44.3, 61.1)

501 casts:

289 Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 57.7%
204 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 40.7%
2 12 Pound Mud Snapper - 0.4%
2 Minor Mana Potion - 0.4%
2 Bloated Smallfish One contained 1 Tigerseye, the other 1 Malachite. - 0.4%
1 Journeyman's Pants - 0.2%
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper - 0.2%

Happy fishing.~

Comment by Mojie

Fished for the 15 Pound Mudsnapper at Stonebull Lake (44, 61 - Mulgore; right in front of the fishing trainer). Fishing skill = 889 buffed (+30 fishing rod, hat with built-in usable +150 lure and +4 fishing line).

Total catch: 14 x raw longjaw mud snapper, 28 x raw brilliant smallfish, 1 x failed cast (no fish caught) and 1 x 15 Pound Mudsnapper. So 44 casts total.

I don't know if fishing skill has to do with it or if I got lucky, but I was anticipating a very long, drawn-out ordeal, but the whole thing took hardly any time at all. My apologies to everyone who had to try or has been trying for a much longer time to get this achieve. I swear, I'm not normally this lucky.

Now to do the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza and get my Salty title.

Comment by SasquatchFiesta

Went to Stonebull Lake in Mulgore as alliance (43, 60), with Bone Fishing Pole with Rook's Lucky Fishin' Line, Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat, and 700/700 fishing. 122nd cast, I caught the 15 Pound Mud Snapper. 10/17/15

Fishing Buddy:
Skilll: 700+114
Brilliant Smallfish (64: 52.5%)
Longjaw Mud Snapper (54: 44.3%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper (3: 2.5%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper (1: 0.8%)

Comment by katcall

Took the advice from fellow salties here and went to Stonebull Lake in Mulgore around coords 43,60. Didn't take much time at all with 700 base skill + 35 fishing rod. Stats:

Total: 146 | Skill: 700+35
Brilliant Smallfish (80 : 54.8%)
Longjaw Mud Snapper (61 : 41.8%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper (3: 2.1%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper (1: 0.7%)
Minor Healing Potion (1 : 0.7%)

Good luck everyone.

Comment by Pseudonaja

I want to highly advise you to fish in northrend to finish this achievement and at the same time have a chance to, without any extra effort, finish another achievement (the sea turtle) which drops from any pools in northrend.

I fished for around 1 hour in howling fjord and got the dark herring.
Dark Herring

Caught from:
- Howling Fjord (Fangtooth Herring School)
Catch rate: <1%

Also it looks like this one sells for quite a lot on AH, can't confirm this though, haven't sold mine yet. But undermine journal says around 10 k, not sure if it's realistic tho.

Comment by srotavelet

Fishing skill: 700+129

Location: Stonebull Lake , Blood Hoof Village

Got 15 Pound Mud Snapper on my 2127th cast.

Comment by Lubixi

I suggest you try for Dark Herring first, just because you have a chance of fishing a Sea Turtle too. But if you do get the turtle drop, perhaps it is time to try for something like 15 Pound Mud Snapper in Mulgore instead. This one is much less work to fish up because you can actually stand still and fish in the same location, while with the herring you have to go hunt the Fangtooth Herring Schools.

Sincerely someone who spent 17 hours fishing in Howling Fjord to no avail.

Comment by jujub

Went to Stonebull Lake in Mulgore like everyone said. It took me 1426 casts.

Here are my stats:
Average skill: 1100
Totals: 1426
Brilliant Smallfish (860 : 60.3%)
Longjaw Mud Snapper (541 : 37.9%)
12 Pound Mud Snapper (7 : 0.5%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper (6 : 0.4%)
Minor Healing Potion (4 : 0.3%)
Minor Mana Potion (4 : 0.3%)
Bloated Smallfish (2 : 0.1%)
Journeyman's Cloak (1 : 0.1%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper (1 : 0.1%)

Goog luck!

Comment by MasterIzumi

I guess Im the only one who caught 10 pound mud snapper x8 and 12 pound mud snapper x5 in my 1500 or so casts before getting it. So many almost excited moments just to read the number and be sad lol

Comment by 1575118

For Horde toons, I followed a few other posts and went to a low level area. I fished at Brightwater Lake in Tirisfal Glades (Undercity). I stood right next to the fishing trainer and equipped my Weather Beaten Fishing Hat and Savage Fishing Pole with a Worm Supreme active when my fishing rod was on cool down . I spent approximately 1 hour, casted 252 times, and finally caught the 15 Pound Mud Snapper on my 252nd try. You can do it everyone, just keep fishing!

Comment by RomeoHunter

If you just want to get the achievement for Accomplished Angler, then I highly recommend going for the 15 pound Mud Snapper in Mulgore or in Elwynn Forest, as you do not need to move to pools and there are no mobs/enemies around. This is a RNG moment and you just need to roll the dice as many times as possible.

Recent attempt at Crystal Lake in Elwynn Forest:

Fishing skill does not matter
Where you fish does not matter, as long as it's inland in the above zones
Play some music or watch Netflix, while you do this one

3336 Casts
------------------
1931- Raw Brilliant Smallfish (58%)
1350- Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper (40%)
22- 10 Pound Mud Snapper (.65%)
15- 12 pound Mud Snapper (.45%)
11- Minor Healing potion (.33%)
5- Minor Mana Potion (.15%)
1- Journeyman's Pants

1- 15 Pound Mud Snapper (.03%)

Every single cast has a very low drop chance of .01%-.06%, but the probability of seeing it rises with each cast. It's not a promise, but gives you an idea of how much time you might need to invest:

Using this drop rate and the Formula 1-((1-.0003)^X):

After X number of successful casts:
100-----> 3%
500-----> 14%
1000---> 26%
1500---> 36%
2000---> 45%
2400---> 51%
3000---> 59%
4000---> 70%
5000---> 78%
7000---> 88%
10,000-> 95%

This is probably the same/easiest fish to catch for the achievement, considering you don't need to move to pools and it's near Stormwind. With an median/average cast of twelve seconds and 2400 casts. You should expect to have a full 8 hour fishing session to have a greater than 50% probability of seeing this fish.

It could be longer. It could be shorter. Just don't expect this one to come easily.

Comment by Priestzilla

After years, I finally decided to try this achievement out again. Based on the comments, I figured since I was alliance, I'd start in Elwynn Forest. After 200 casts (I'm very impatient) I decided to look at the comments again. I saw Stonebull Lake in Mulgore pop up multiple times and so I decided to give it a go. 49th cast I got 15 pound Mud Snapper. I would definitely say try Stonebull Lake first! Good luck!

Comment by Rahizm

I was trying to get this achieve while watching youtube to pass the time. After 20 or 30 casts, I heard the achievement ding only to find out it was Old Crafty. It was a mixture of excitement and frustration that I didn't get this one.

Comment by Nighteyes

I caught easily 3/4 of these while leveling fishing back in burning crusade, and threw them out or vendored. Back then, you were looking at thousands of casts to level fishing, and you had to cook at-skill foods to level cooking (no magic speed leveling like with pandaria/Warlords

And now I have to go catch useless low level fish again.. Just to claim the title 'Salty Kurboom'

Comment by Longfeng

One possible catch in each set of zones, including 15 Pound Mud Snapper, 52 Pound Redgill, 29 Pound Salmon, 68 Pound Grouper, and 32 Pound Catfish. For example, if you fish inland open water in Felwood, the only fish you can catch that awards this achievement is a 52 Pound Redgill.

In each case catch rates are estimated to be in the order of 1/10,000. Perhaps slightly more common. Unfortunately, these fish are so rare, not enough catch data has been recorded to be sure. The main reason for trying to catch one of these fish is that some can be caught in very low-skill zones. For example, 15 Pound Mud Snapper can be caught in Elwynn Forest or Mulgore, which only require 25 fishing skill to avoid junk.

Source : El' extreme anglin'

So basically you could even get this on a trial account?

Comment by wolfee

Location: Stonebull Lake, Mulgore

Fishing: 700 + 190 (890) - Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole + Nat's Drinking Hat
Total casts: 1976

1162 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
770 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
19 x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
9 x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
8 x Minor Healing Potion
7 x Minor Mana Potion
1 x 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Comment by davidgabriel

I'm going to be the guy who tells you what you want to hear that no one else cares to tell you. I just caught my 15 LB Mud Snapper. I caught 3x 10 LB Mud Snappers, and 1x 12 LB Mud Snapper before i got to my 15 LB Mud Snapper. All of this was within a 90 cast duration. so 5x rare Mud Snapper catches out of 90 casts seems pretty good to me considering i did thousands of casts on my priest with 1145 fishing. I caught this fish with lv 75 fishing on my lv 56 Worgen druid right outside of Stormwind in Mirror Lake. This is the good part. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CAST IN A POOL TO GET THIS. CONFIRMED! I couldn't find the answer anywhere so I asked a GM and he told me anywhere there is water you can catch the larger form of the fish in that zone. Be it lobster, catfish, mud snappers, etc. If you can catch the normal version then there is a 1/10,000 chance you can get the big one. (1/10,000 is what the GM said it was cause there is so little recorded data on this achievement.) So whether you are alliance or horde just go to Mirror Lake and drop a line while you are in que or waiting for a raid to fill and you will nab one guaranteed. I have given you a very specific spot and the knowledge that your fishing ilvl doesn't matter and neither does fishing in pools. To be honest I would assume fishing in pools would hurt your chances of getting them. There aren't any catfish pools or mud snapper pools out there (that i've seen) so why would you get a big one from them? I'm not saying it's impossible, i'm just saying i think i wasted a lot of time trying in pools when i got it so fast not in pools. Dark Herring makes sense to get in a pool though.

Comment by Hellstryke

Just got the achievement for this with a 15 Pound Mud Snapper. Just posting data for people that may be curious. I spent just under 8 hours total fishing at Stone Bull Lake spread out over the past 3 days. My numbers;

958 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 61%
591 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 38%
11 - 10 Pound Mud Snapper - 0.01%
9 - Minor Healing Potion - 0.01%
5 - Minor Mana Potion - 0.005%
2 - 12 Pound Mud Snapper - 0.01%
1 - 15 Pound Mud Snapper - 0.001%

1,577 casts total.

Happy Fishing!

Comment by ronitopp

Just caught my 15 Pound Mud Snapper! :o

Here's my data (I apparently were kinda lucky...):

705 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
491 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
5x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
3 Minor Mana Potion
3 Minor Health Potion
2x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1 Simple Dagger
1 Malachite (from Bloated Smallfish)
1 Billy Club
1202 Total Catches

Good luck to everyone currently fishing! I'm going to continue on to farming Angler rep for the Water Strider... ;)

Comment by RooklynJenkins

Went to Crystal Lake in Elwynn Forest. (47.53, 63.71) TomTom Coords
Right near the little dock.
After 22 casts (12 Raw Brilliant Smallfish, 8 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers, 1 Minor Healing potion)
1 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Started fishing at 12:35am Central Time, on Stormrage.

:D

Comment by Liukus

I just wanted to leave my experience here, in hopes to encourage people:

I fished for 7 hours straight at Stonebull Lake for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper. I got it, but didn't loot it, because guess who forgot to empty their 7-hours-worth-of-fish-full inventory. This guy! So, I clearly have on my Fishing Buddy list that I caught it, but no achievement. Come back to this post see people missing it because of auto-loot not on, feel a little better.

Decide to change things up. Went to Howling-Fjord: Winter's Breath Lake, where I fished from the first Fangtooth Herring School I could find. TWO (2) casts later, Dark Herring, and subsequently this achievement and the Salty title.

I'd recommend the Dark Herring path, as it does, in fact, replace your Fangtooth Herring you would've caught from the pool. This increases the droprate, by pool fishing, by 400% (since there's like 4 things you can catch in open water that are not fangtooth herrings). This is true, but 400% increase on even 1%, is only 5% (increase by 400% = 5x multiplier)

A reminder. After you've been fishing for a while, empty your inventory. Hopefully, someone will read this and give this achievement another shot. You can never know whether it will drop quickly, or slowly. Just keep trying, and I guarantee it will happen.

Comment by eminent

I took the advice to go for this achievement at stonebull lake. For this test I made a fresh char and boosted it to 90 with one of my left over 90 boosts. Then I picked up fishing and soon went out to stonebull lake with a fishing skill of about 75.

I caught the 15 Pound Mud Snapper after 110 casts at Stonebull lake, according to Fishing Buddy addon.

Finished at a skill of 161+5

-69 Brilliant Smallfish 62.7%
-38 Longjaw Mud Snapper 34.5%
-One 12 Pount Mud Snapper 0.9%
-One 10 Pound Mud Snapper 0.9%
-One 15 Pound Mud Snapper 0.9%

Goodluck to all! I hope you are as lucky as I got here.

-

Comment by p00pyjoel

Alright, so I am going to try and clear up a few things after spending over 24 hours fishing for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper.

- Doesn't need to be caught in a pond
- Caught mine in Crystal Lake with a fishing level of 688

Now, for some fun stuff..

I literally spend over 24 hours fishing for this guy. I got so frustrated on the last cast so I spammed the cast button 6 or 8 times and let it sit. Upon clicking the bobber, sure enough, I got the fish. I don't know if Blizzard has some kind of "anti" botting mechanic in place, but it was odd that as soon as I spammed the cast button it dropped (after fishing one cast at a time for so long).

I hope this helps, I would love to hear if others spam the cast button land a fish instantly...

Comment by fithepaladin

I was one of the unlucky ones. I fished in Stonebull Lake for almost three days on and off for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper. It was the last achievement I needed for the "Salty" title.

Skill was 600 + 110.
Used:
Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole
Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat

1118 casts:
675 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
419 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
6 x 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1 x 10 Pound Mud Snapper
2 x Lumberjack Axe
1 x Malachite
1 x Practice Sword
2 x Minor Mana Potion & 2 x Minor Healing Potion
and finally
1 x 15 Pound Mud Snapper!

Good luck guys.

Comment by Tytrianna

Caught Dark Herring at 3:41PM server time at Winter's Breath Lake on Shandris
Did a bit of realm hopping to avoid other players fishing in the same area

Flew between lake at Fort Wildervar and Winter's Breath Lake
Fished exclusively in Fangtooth Herring schools

700 fishing skill, level 100, using a Jeweled Fishing Pole with a +5 fishing enchant (skill up to 735)

Fangtooth Herring: 1087
Pygmy Suckerfish: 749
Reinforced Crate: approx. 70
Crystallized Water: 57
Bonescale Snapper: 48
Glacial Salmon: 13
Dark Herring: 1

Tip: Darkmoon Firewater reduces gathering time, so it can be helpful in long farming sessions. I used it for the majority of the time, but not during the entire fishing session. I was not using it when I caught the Herring.

You can do it, just stay positive and distract yourself in between casts so you aren't bored out of your mind!

BTW, I'm never stepping foot into the Howling Fjord again...

Comment by filibuster

This achievement gave me something to do on a low level character that I could play while unsubscribed and waiting for Legion. Caught the 15 pound mud snapper with no pole, no lure, fishing skill capped at 75 on a new character in New Tinkertown area. Got my Salty title since it is account-wide meta. Just like everyone else says, it just takes some time and persistence.

Comment by Bluejoe

Finally got it!

Achieved in Mulgore by catching the 15 Pound Mud Snapper.

Fishing totals are -
1057 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
731 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
10 - 10 Pound Mud Snapper
7 - 12 Pound Mud Snapper
5 - Minor Healing Potion
1 - Cadet's Bow
1 - Minor Mana Potion
1 - Warrior's Boots
1 - 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Best of luck to everyone and keep farming! You will get it!

Comment by Drakker29

As in patch 7.0.3
Took me around 14 hours combined (With around 2000-4000 casts) to farm the 15 pound mud snapper at Stonebull Lake.
Hope you have it sooner than me:)
Happy fishing!

Comment by beuar

currently fishing in azshara. 3500 tries, still not a single X pounds whateverfish... has it been removed?

Comment by ivanstrel

I can confirm that open water Shadowglen still works, as of Legion pre-expac; got a 15 Pound Mud Snapper on about my 360th cast there, finishing my cheevo. I suppose Azshara's Bay of Storms will work too, due to the diversity of possible drops there, but it seems like the drop rate on the 15lb'er might be slightly higher, though I base that exclusively on the anecdotal evidence presented in this thread.

RIP, El's Anglin'. *sniff*

Comment by HappyBunny

1791 casts @ Stonebull Lake

I'd read accounts of players catching it in far less time and began to wonder if I was fishing in the wrong place. I think my sanity might have begun to waver the few times I opened my map to ensure I was indeed at Stonebull Lake...

Skill: 700 (later added my hat, pole, and lure for 810 total)

1060 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
699 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
11 10 Pound Mud Snapper
9 12 Pound Mud Snapper
5 Minor Healing Potion
4 Minor Mana Potion
1 Malachite from Bloated Smallfish
1 Plans: Copper Chain Vest from Bloated Smallfish

Then finally, the 15 Pound Mud Snapper. I had moved about the lake, partially out of boredom, and eventually caught it near the bridge entering Bloodhoof Village although I don't think that mattered.

So for anyone who may be questioning whether this fish is still in Stonebull Lake (due to fishing-induced insanity, no doubt), I hope this helps somehow.

After my first ~250 casts, I tried wearing my Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat and Jeweled Fishing Pole but I don't think that had any impact. Other players have caught the fish significantly faster both with and without these items. Some have taken 2 or 3 times as long. Fishing skill, gear, and lures don't seem to help or hinder. It's all up to luck.

Comment by decembre

Tried this today and surprisingly caught the Dark Herring in just 154 casts around Cauldros Isle in Howling Fjord. Went around the island for Fangtooth Herring Schools and occasionally up the river.

Skill - 700+65

In a little over an hour of fishing:

Fangtooth Herring x122
Reinforced Crate x8
Crystallized Water x4
Imperial Manta Ray x3
Bonescale Snapper x1
Dark Herring x1

Not sticking around for the turtle tho.

Comment by Hav0cMayhem

Got the 15 Pound Mud Snapper today on my 4th cast in Stonebull Lake.... '' RNG ''

Comment by nsmang

15 Pound Mud Snapper - Stonebull Lake, by the fishing trainer.

Took me 306 casts. This was a fantastic place to fish - no moving, no mobs, and no alliance.

Thanks Wowhead and EI for the advice.

Comment by Elderash

RNG gods saw fit to help me out today.

Under an hour at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore.

53 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
40 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
1 - Minor Mana Potion
1 - 12 Pound Mud Snapper
1 - 15 Pound Mud Snapper

Good luck and I hope the RNG is kind to you.

Comment by nuzzilla

I know this is an old achievement, and there are a ton of comments on here. I wanted to leave my experience here because, while I don't *hope* that anyone shares my horrible RNG, that I fear if it can happen to me-- it could happen to you.

I've been fishing for this since I started to get into fishing in 2009. Yep. 2009. I've had cast counter mods off and on during that time frame, but over the years they began to depress me more than provide hope so I stopped using them.

I fished as Horde. I fished as Alliance. I fished Mulgore, Tirisfal Glades, Dun Morogh, Elwynn Forest... other newbie areas. I fished main zone pools in all the expacs that had participating fishes. I fished for years in Howling Fjord at every pool I saw. As I am a Druid I swiftly flew from pool to pool. Still don't have a turtle, btw! I fish ANYWAY just to fish for... fish! Still no rare.

Cast after Cast. Bait, max fishing, hats, this and that galore. Hours, days, weeks. I would give up for months. Come back to it again. Fish in my free time. Fish when I was sick and couldn't play well, but could fish! Fish when I was waiting for someone to log online. Fish while at work, reading and doing my tasks with a cursor hovering over the bobber. I would miss some casts in order to keep my workflow going but... we are talking thousands upon thousands of casts. Fish fish fish! EatFish, SleepFish, BreatheFish, BegFish, PleadFish, SighFish, GiveUpFish, ResignedFish, ITWILLHAPPENTODAYFISH! :D!, Nope.NotTodayFish. -_-

I was on my break and decided to fish even though sometimes I use breaks - when I am allowed to be actively not working - to do actual THING THINGS, like world quests. But today I decided to just fish since I was in Stormwind.

I went out to Crystal Lake and plopped by the Murlocs on the far Eastern Shore. I laughed at how they were so low level and that they didn't give a crap about my artifact pole's 5 yard "no aggro" buff. I fished while they swung at me - they were so wimpy they didn't interrupt my cast! lol! - and then I would have to off them before casting again. Three of them started wailing on me at one point and I kept fishing and then heard the most beautiful sound in the whole damned world - the achievement of catching my 15lb Mudsnapper! I threw both arms straight up and hooted loudly and kept them there and literally squee'd and I think shouted, "YESYESYESYESYESSSS!OMFG!OMFG!". My coworkers stared and I just held my arms up for a while more. I did finally have to explain myself, but we are all gamers so they understood, at least to some degree.

So, literally countless casts and hours and days, weeks, months... fishing for the damn elusive fish! I never saw one post on wowhead that indicated anyone's plight as hopeless as mine seemed to be. I saw those posts on the "I spent X-hours today, and cast 1000 times and got it in Mulgore! It took forever, but you can get it, too!" and they just made me sad... how much longer my luck was taking to strike.

Again - I truly hope no one was in similar shoes - but you can get this POS fish. YOU CAN! And I really, really hope for anyone like me to just get a random burst of happy, warm, unicorn-farty, rainbow and glitter RNG, cause after all these years, damn it felt good to finally check this off and I want you unlucksters all to have that experience, too. /salute

Comment by Ahielia

Got this achievement yesterday with the Dark Herring.

Fished in Howling Fjord, started at Fort Wilderwar and fished everything in the lake itself before moving south to Valgarde, then moving west up the waterfall, north and west until I reached the lake southwest of Camp Winterhoof before I went southeast along the river, before ending up on the lake at Fort Wilderwar and starting that route all over again.

I was very lucky, got the fish when I had just started my third lap, a couple of hundred fish caught.

If you haven't gotten the turtle yet, it's a good way to start both.

Comment by argaroth

It took me approximately 1 day worth of fishing to get this. Approximately 5000 casts.

I did it in Elwynn Forest / Crystal Lake for the 15 pound mud snapper.

I started to doubt if I was fishing in the right place, but you just have to stick with it.

Comment by stilettosoldier

First ever comment on WoWHead but this achievement was worth setting up an account for...

Got this one tonight and I fist pumped like nobody's business. I fished in Elwynn Forest - Crystal Lake - near the fishing trainer / dock but not too close as I'm a horde and didn't want to aggro. I found that if I positioned myself so that my bobber landed in the weeds, I got more snappers. Not sure if coincidence but meh, I was over 900 casts in at that time so I was willing to try anything. Shortly after doing so, I caught my 15 Pound Mud Snapper.

Here's what I fished up over approximately 1,305 casts (I had a few "no fish hooked" but they aren't counted here):

> 769 x Brilliant Smallfish
> 513 x Longjaw Mud Snappers
> 9 x 10 Pound Mud Snappers
> 8 x 12 Pound Mud Snappers
> 3 x Minor Mana Potions
> 2 x Minor Healing Potions
> 1 x 15 Pound Mud Snapper

My fishing is at 800 but I ran out of lures so I just fished with my Kalu'ak rod.

I watched a TON of Netflix while doing it, drank some wine and prayed that the RNG gods would bestow upon me some luck. I have 12,200 achievement points right now but THIS ONE felt like the best one to get. WOOO! Don't give up hope if you're going for this one -- stick it out! It's SO worth it. :)

Comment by grabarekus

Probably just dumb luck, but...

Stonebull Lake
89 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
56 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
2 - dumb misclicks
2 - Minor Mana Potion
1 - Journeyman's Bracers
1 - 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1 - 15 Pound Mud Snapper <Achievement>

Comment by Invizo

I fished at the small pond west of Goldshire. In 155 casts, I reeled in:
96- Raw Brilliant Smallish
57- Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
1- Schematic: Mechanical Squirrel Box
1- 15 Pound Mud Snapper
Best of luck to everybody!

Comment by AddictedPoi

Crystal Lake in Elwynn Forest. Just next to the Goldshire Inn. One in 763 casts for me.

I initially started fishing in the Darkmoon Faire area to kill two birds with one stone, but only Darkmoon Daggermaw can be caught there now. Don't waste your time. You can catch the rare fish only where you can catch the regular variety.

459 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish. Just some fish.
294 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper. Some unusual fish.
7 x 10 Pound Mud Snapper. We are getting closer!
2 x 12 Pound Mud Snapper. I was wondering why I didn't get the achievement.

And finally 1 x 15 Pound Mud Snapper! After many years mission accomplished!

The achievement takes a lot of time. Don't forget that you can set WOW to 600x800 resolution and windowed mode. Assign a hotkey to cast fishing. If you use Windows 10, you can evenly divide the screen space in two by dragging a window to the right side or the left side. Watch some YouTube videos, read something, or do other stuff.

Comment by 1674370

Are you missing this achievement? You are too lazy to fish for hours?

Fear not! For there is an easy solution.

Fish in Andorhal inside the Deaths of Chromie scenario. For some reason the chance to fish a rare catfish is extremely high.
I used my artifact rod (it completely maxes out during the scenario).

Proof: http://i.imgur.com/nvDDCow.png ("X-pfündiger Wels" is german for X pound catfish)

Enjoy.

EDIT: For what am I getting downvoted? It is true

Comment by emrie01

Over at the Secret Finding Discord, we have found that, at the Andorhal bit of Deaths of Chromie scenario, you can fish mostly 'rare' fish and mog items, some mana and health potions too. With a few casts, it is possible to get the 32 Pound Catfish.

Comment by Snoopy10095

Seen some of your posts on stonebull lake so I had to check it out this morning. I went east of the fishing trainer about 46.88 63.89 the big log is laying down to my left side. As of patch 7.2.5 my fishing skil was about 750. This took me 154 casts to get the 15 pound mud snapper. 89 raw brilliant small fish 62 raw longjaw snapper 1 minor mana potion 1 pellet rifle 1 minor healing potion 1 12 pound mud snapper 1 15 pound mud snapper. Took me from 230 am central time till about 310 am central on Tuesday August 1st 2017

Comment by mg394551

I started working on this on Aug 23 2017 (Patch 7.2.5) and completed it on Aug 24 2017. Based on the comments found here I stared fishing at Stonebull Lake in Mulgore. I used my artifact fishing rod and fished 1200 casts across from the fishing trainer in the location given by other users (44.3, 61.1). I was unsuccessful in catching the rare fish at this location.

I decided to try fishing in Andorhal (Deaths of Chromie Scenario) and definitely took me longer than other reports I've seen on here and the secret finding discord, but in the end SUCCESS.

Here are my fishing results for interest sake:
Total: 668
145 - 19 pound catfish
140 - mana potion
137 - 17 pound catfish
127 - greater healing potion
45 - 22 pound catfish
33 - green BOES
25 - bloated trout
8 - 26 pount catfish
4 - patterns
2 - Citrine
1 - Large knapsack
1 - 32 POUND CATFISH

I fished in various locations in Andorhal in the Deaths of Chromie Scenario. I used my artifact fishing rod and 5 +100 fishing lures near the beginning, but it didn't seem to change anything that I could observe. I already had the portal to Andorhal unlocked so I could go directly there each time the timer ran out.

Comment by pythlyt

Validating the Chromie Scenario method. My data from Andorhal off the dock at 41.49, 75.98:

TOTAL: 314
19 Pound Catfish (79 : 25.2%)
Mana Potion (66 : 21.0%)
Greater Healing Potion (57 : 18.2%)
17 Pound Catfish (45 : 14.3%)
22 Pound Catfish (23 : 7.3%)
Various Gear and Pattern drops (22 : 7.0%)
Bloated Trout (14 : 4.5%)
26 Pound Catfish (6 : 1.9%)
Large Knapsack (1 : 0.3%)
32 Pound Catfish (1 : 0.3%)

Comment by Rizbey

Took me 320 casts in Elwynn forest.

Comment by Ruskash

Here are my results from fishing for the 15 Pound Mud Snapper:

196 Total casts
Brilliant Smallfish 108: 55.1%
Longjaw Mud Snapper 82: 41.8%
Minor Healing Potion 1: 0.5%
10 Pound Mud Snapper 1: 0.5%
Minor Mana Potion 1: 0.5%
12 Pound Mud Snapper 1: 0.5%
Malachite 1: 0.5%
15 Pound Mud Snapper 1: 0.5%

My total fishing skill is 851. The total number of casts was over three different fishing sessions, and from two different spots on Stonebull Lake.

Comment by mirakelli

I spent most of today fishing in Mulgore (Stonebull Lake) right in front of the fishing trainer (45,60). I fished in the same spot (open water, no pools) the entire time.

I fished up:
247 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
175 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
2 10 Pound Mud Snapper
1 12 Pound Mud Snapper
AND 1 15 POUND MUD SNAPPER!

Tips:
Set up your tv right next your computer so you can easily binge watch your shows.
Bind fishing to your middle mouse key or to a side key. Really fast, one-handed, no-moving fishing.
Pray.

Comment by phylo1965

2 hours reading a book and 2.5 episodes of the Punisher,

782 casts - raised skill from 282 to 547 - used no baits and a plain pole.

Brilliant Small Fish x 491 62.8%
Long Jaw Mud Snapper x 277 35.4%
12 Pound Mud Snapper x4 0.5%
10 Pound Mud Snapper x 3 0.4%
Minor Healing Potion x 3 0.4%
Minor Mana Potion x2 0.3%
Journeyman's Pants x1 0.1%
15 Pound Mud Snapper x1 0.1%

Mulgore 44.7, 60.4

Comment by doums

Validating the Chromie Scenario method. My data from Andorhal at 49, 71:

TOTAL: 483
19 Pound Catfish 121 25.1%
Mana Potion 101 20.9%
Greater Healing Potion 85 17.6%
17 Pound Catfish 75 15.5%
22 Pound Catfish 41 8.5%
Bloated Trout 27 5.6%
26 Pound Catfish 6 1.2%
32 Pound Catfish 1 0.2%
each 27 others items (gear, pattern, bag)
1 0.2%

skill: 800 + 245 = 1045

Comment by Saccularius

Managed to get achievement after fishing up the following:

286x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
195x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
6x 10 pound Mud Snapper
2x Minor Healing Potion
2x Minor Mana Potion

Then I got my 15 Pound Mud Snapper! Got this at Crystal Lake, Elwynn Forest. 46,64. Did this with 800 fishing skill and it took about 3-4 hours in total to complete :)

Comment by Zahler

10x Greater Healing Potion
10x Mana Potion
4x 17 Pound Catfish
9x 19 Pound Catfish
2x 22 Pound Catfish
26 Pound Catfish
Bloated Trout
Conjurer's Mantle of the Whale
Pattern: Spider Belt
Large Knapsack
32 Pound Catfish

41 casts in one 15min Chromie scenario

Comment by Prohvetoija

I fished about an hour in Mulgore and got nothing but two basic kind of fishes. Then I went for Chromie's scenario, and fourth cast gave me 32 pound catfish with achievement.

Comment by k4beetee

I think you ppl are full of it.

I'm in the Andorhal scenario, currently sitting on 1048 casts as I type this - no 32 pounder yet.

This is after 1200 casts at Stonebull lake....

Comment by Drdax

Huge help here. 32 Pound Catfish I got it right now 91 attempts in Andorhal ,Chromie scenario :)

Comment by Zknight

I think Blizzard fixed the Chromie scenario solution. I put my hearth at Andorhal and went to start the chromie instance on my DK. After it started, I hearthed to Andorhal, and I was removed from the group. I thought, okay, i'll try the long way round. I went back to Chromie, started the instance, and started flying towards vengeance landing to take the zeppelin to tirisfal glades. I hit an invisible wall at 68,59, and it looks like it encloses a rectangle around where the scenario takes part in Dragonblight. I can't leave the zone at all, so I think this trick doesn't work anymore.

Comment by Spambino

I just finished unlocking the Andorhal portal in the Chromie scenario and got my 32 pound Catfish within 20minutes.

Total Cast Count = 74

Items fished up :

11 x Greater Healing Potion
12 x Mana Potion
7 x Bloated Trout
12 x 19 Pound Catfish
11 x 22 Pound Catfish
11 x 17 Pound Catfish
9 x Random uncommon BoE's

1 x 32 Pound Catfish !

Comment by NessieMo

In the Chromie scenario at Andorhal, I obtained the 32 Pound Catfish after a total of 418 No Casts.
This took 8 No 15 minute scenarios.
With a base fishing level of 800, Underlight Angler, with Worm Supreme lure, and a Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat (every bit helps!) gave me a total fishing skill of 1065.

Note that none of the catfish stack, and with an average of 30 catfish alone per 15 minute scenario, you'll need some bag space so you're not wasting time (and lures). By vendoring the catfish and potions, I found that 50 spare slots were sufficient for around three or four runs.

The final tally is below, good luck!

1 No. 32 Pound Catfish (Hurrah, &c.)
11. No 26 lb Catfish
37. No 22 lb Catfish
100. No 19 lb Catfish
69. No 17 lb Catfish
26. No Green Bind on Equip items
8. Large knapsacks (12 slot)
8. Jade
8. Citrine
1 No. Lesser Moonstone
66 No. Mana potion
78 No. Greater healing potion
5 No. Tailoring and Blacksmithing Patterns

Comment by Submariner

Thanks very much to the advice provided to position at the dock in Andorhal (specifically during the Deaths of Chromie scenario) at location 41, 75. Caught the 32 Pound Catfish after a few casts once I set up on the dock. For those out there still battling the RNG for this achievement, the information provided via the comments in this section continue to strongly suggest that getting to Andorhal could pay off for you. Like many others, I wish I had tried this idea much earlier!

Of note, once in the Chromie scenario, the portal to Andorhal is obtained by handling the Emerald Dragonshrine, ultimately by defeating Thalas Vylethorn and turning in the Gleaming Chronoshard to Chromie atop the Wyrmrest Temple. I wanted to help broadcast that data point, so that others will not be wasting their time trying to clear the wrong shrines for the sole purpose of this achievement.

Specifically, with regards to the Blue Dragonshrine’s Void Lord that can be a challenge to get past - and very frustrating once learned that it added no value to your efforts to get this achievement. Good luck.

Comment by fords

The Chromie scenario tactic is the way to go (start the scenario and go to Andorhal). Spent far too long fishing at Crystal Lake in Elwynn before deciding to give it a go. 10 minutes later at the river south of Andorhal and I had my achievement.

Comment by Hashaa

Got it in Mulgore at Stonebull Lake. Position 43.36:60.58 on the little hill in front of the lake.

In only 1h-1h30.
403 casts, 877 fishing skills at the end (with lure). Started at 690 fishing skills and finished with 752.

Raw Brilliant Smallfish (243 : 60.3%)
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper (150 : 37.2%)
12 Pound Mud Snapper (5 : 1.2%)
Minor Healing Potion (1 : 0.2%)
Minor Mana Potion (1 : 0.2%)
10 Pound Mud Snapper (1 : 0.2%)
Bloated Smallfish (1 :0.2%)
15 Pound Mud Snapper (1 : 0.2%)

Hope it helps. Just go there some time to time and try it... not the first time I tried. This is only one session of many others.
Using thoses objects:

Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat with the lure mounted on the pole
Boots of the Bay
Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole

Good luck guys! Happy fishing!

Comment by ElentilSDS

Confirming the Chromie scenario tactic. Took me 3-4 rounds and I 've been working on this achievement (sporadically) since it came out.

Comment by LionSong

This achievement is account share ?

Comment by Solacelol

Chromie scenario Andorhal portal seems to still be the way to go. Looted my 32 Pound Catfish nearing the end of my 2nd scenario.

Comment by GeertJan

This is what I got when fishing for Steelscale Crushfish, for the achievement:

Fishing at Ruins of Southshore in Hillsbrad Foothills at Loc: 48.9, 74.7 (End of the peer, see this map)

Skill: 700+330 (103