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Comment by jjanchan

This ability will replace Deterrence in Legion. This information is current as of Feb 11/16.

Note a few differences:

Deterrence is learned at level 78. Aspect of the Turtle is available at level 50.
Deterrence has 2 charges, with a 3 minute cooldown per charge. Aspect of the Turtle is a single use ability with a 3-minute cooldown.
Deterrence has a 5 second duration, while Aspect of the Turtle lasts 8 seconds.
Major glyphs are being removed in Legion, and all glyphs will have Minor glyph capabilities (mostly cosmetic). As such, there will no longer be the option to reflect spells with the previous Glyph of Mirrored Blades.

Comment by Sammyx3

Here's a little useful macro to keep the healing effect of "Mimiron's Shell" but remove the shell.

#showtooltip Aspect of the Turtle
/cancelaura Aspect of the Turtle
/cast Aspect of the Turtle

1st click activates Aspect of the Turtle with the shell & healing and 2nd click deactivates the shell effect, but keeps the healing effect.

Comment by Volleynova

About as useful as Scorpid Sting in the old days... my goodness. At least let us attack while we use Aspect of the Turtle....

Comment by Volitar

I personally prefer Deterence but whatever it fits for BM and SV but why does Marksmen have this?

Comment by lordmerlin

Blizzard needs to update the tooltip on this ability. It doesnt work against many "attacks". Very weak compared to the defensive cooldowns of nearly every other class.

Comment by Zbarcea

as usefull as a condom in a monastery in todays pvp.

Comment by mudplayerx

Also known as "Aspect of Prolonged Death" in PvP.

Comment by Gizmok

I would love to see a glyph to turn the visual effect of this into the old Deterrence visual. I vastly prefer that one personally.

Comment by totorohugger

You can still use some abilities whilst in your turtle shell, like your traps, exhilaration and some pet commands. You can also use soul shape while turtled. If you know of any more please comment below!

Comment by bellazar1

saw a hunter fleshcraft inside of aspect of the turtle. I was like... double bubble?

Comment by Cimegs5088

They really should improve on hunter's survivability with this skill, like, either make it a max 2min cd, or reduceable by focus spend, extra charge, or at very least, let us be able to attack while using it.

I know we are very mobile, and could probably take 0 avoidable damage, and this is all good with any content outside M+. The issue with m+ is, any death is punishing, at least more punishing than any dps in raid (aside from the sole dps that has the only lust), and there are unavoidable damage, which scales as we go higher key. This made this ability either an obsolete button at trivial content or low key, or a button found wanting at high level key.

Exhiliration can be brought down to very low cd (i've heard 45 sec but personally i never got that low). but it has some issue in that it's a pure heal button, and the amount is....sorry to say, laughable imo. 30% heal with 20% hots over 8 sec. If we put abilities solely side by side, this really isnt really that bad, HOWEVER, most of other class has some sort of passive sustenance, a very short cd small defensive cd, with damage reduction longer cd, and still able to attack, for us, for hunter, we got one dmg reduction long cd that also reduce our overall damage (kek), a long damage reduction CD in Survival of the Fittest where the CD doesnt scale as well with the damage reduction, and no passive sustenance for ourself, especially BM hunter where leech stat doesn't do much for us. Bm hunter do have the choice of spirit beast, but let's be honest, unless we form our own run, chance of people taking BM hunter in m+, half the time is for bloodlust, which is from Ferocity Pet. This lock us off from Fortitude of the Bear and the pathetic Spirit Mend which heal...roughly 6.5% every 30 sec at the cost of the pet's dps (well....5 focus...still...)

I mean, put all those aside, for such a long CD that put us pacified, i would expect to at least have more than mere 30% damage reduction? or, say 2min cd? or say......allow us to attack maybe....? Or just....make it a pvp skill and give us something better maybe, some sort of sustenance would be good, like the good old kindred bond where pet attack heal us (become a passive leech for MM)? Just throwing out some idea to make us....less squishy

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Aspect of the Turtle

Aspect of the Turtle

Instant	3 min cooldown

Deflects all attacks and reduces all damage you take by 30% for 8 sec, but you cannot attack.

Buff

Aspect of the Turtle

Deflecting all attacks.
Damage taken reduced by 30%.
8 seconds remaining

Spell Details

Duration

8 seconds

School

Physical

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

n/a

Cost

None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

3 minutes

GCD

0 seconds

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Mod Attacker Melee Hit Chance - %
Value: -200% (SP mod: 0.25)
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #2

Apply Aura: Deflect Spells
Value: 200 (SP mod: 0.25)
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #3

Apply Aura: Reflect All Spells
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #4

Apply Aura: Mod % Damage Taken (Arcane, Fire, Frost, Holy, Nature, Physical, Shadow)
Value: -30% (SP mod: 0.25)
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #5

Apply Aura: Immunity - Mechanic (Interrupted)
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #6

Apply Aura: Immunity - Mechanic (Silenced)
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #7

Apply Aura: Ignore Hit Direction
Value: 100 (SP mod: 0.25)
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #8

Apply Aura: Mod Attacker Ranged Hit Chance - %
Value: -200%
PVP Multiplier: 1

Flags

Is Ability
Cannot be used while shapeshifted
Do Not Sheath
No Skill Increase
Generates no threat
Aura Points On Client
Reset cooldown upon ending an encounter

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