Season of Discovery Development Team Discussing Phase 4 Raid Lockout Cadence

Posted 2024/06/27 at 7:00 PM by PopularTopular

Season of Discovery Phase 4 PreviewLevel 60 Raid Lockout schedule

Greetings,

We wanted to just take a quick moment to let you know that we have seen a lot of feedback on this feature and are discussing it as a team. We have quite a lot going on now to prepare for phase 4 including getting the next round of class changes out to PTR, but we hope to sit down talk more about this with you very soon. In the meantime, just know that we hear your concerns on this.

We’d encourage you to continue to provide feedback, but please keep your discussions civil and remember that we all want the same thing; for the game to be fun and engaging and for you to have a lot of content to enjoy should you choose to.

Thank you!

Josh Greenfield

AggrendWoW

I just posted something on the official forums but just letting anyone who is concerned about the twice weekly lockout to know we hear ya. We are talking about it as a team and we'll have a bit more info (and ideally context) available soon.

Try not to panic too much. Ultimately if this isn't something that we think will work in a satisfying way, we'll just not do it. We aren't dug in on it at all. Glad to hear the feedback. Try to keep it calm and civil, though and remember we all want the same thing; for P4 to be fun and engaging.

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Comment by RevaltGood please don't let this go live imagine getting world buffs 2x a week to do molten core, bwl, ony, and world bosses now!Comment by DemondfireI feel like core content like MC, BWL, AQ40, NAXX should only ever be on a weekly lockout. Things like world bosses, Ony, ZG, AQ20 would be acceptable on the biweekly lockouts.Comment by DarthokMore lockouts is good. If it's too much for you, simply stick to one a week. Don't punish the rest of us that enjoy raiding and want to do it multiple times per week.Comment by ExtremelyCrustyVery quick feedback response is great. Hopefully they change it to weeklyComment by RankbossSounds like they are coming to their senses, and wow that's a relief. Getting fully buffed twice a week for 4 raids was going to be too much.Comment by RankbossMore lockouts is good. If it's too much for you, simply stick to one a week. Don't punish the rest of us that enjoy raiding and want to do it multiple times per week.Comment by WinterhartI'm good just doing the raid once week, I have other stuff to do. Getting wb's takes no time at all, the people worried about that are just silly.Comment by TOMRUSDon't want to do it twice a week? Do it once then, problem solved...Comment by TerthaSOD starts with short lockouts, people complain its too much raiding and the 3 day cadence makes it confusing. Switches to once a week, everyone complains there's nothing to do. Switches to a 2x weekly scheduled reset to give more to do and fix the confusing cadence, everyone complains that there's too much raid prep. You don't have to get fully buffed every lockout, imagine, you don't have to get orange parses on every lockout of a seasonal game mode to enjoy the game.Comment by CoatsmanMore lockouts is good. If it's too much for you, simply stick to one a week. Don't punish the rest of us that enjoy raiding and want to do it multiple times per week.Comment by Nenniusfound <GM> artemishowl just a few mins ago wielding thunderfury on the SoD PTR. Hilarious. i think we scared him off.Comment by TankbuttersOffer both? provide single raid lock out option with an additional piece or two of gear each boss to compensate for running it less each week? Let the raid leader toggle it prior to getting saved. 20 ppl is hard to balance even once a week, especially during the summer when people have plans outside of wow. Also a lot of competition coming up with FF14, Retail, and Cata that will divide their availability further.Comment by IkatSOD starts with short lockouts, people complain its too much raiding and the 3 day cadence makes it confusing. Switches to once a week, everyone complains there's nothing to do. Switches to a 2x weekly scheduled reset to give more to do and fix the confusing cadence, everyone complains that there's too much raid prep. You don't have to get fully buffed every lockout, imagine, you don't have to get orange parses on every lockout of a seasonal game mode to enjoy the game.Comment by WhistlnDixieSOD starts with short lockouts, people complain its too much raiding and the 3 day cadence makes it confusing. Switches to once a week, everyone complains there's nothing to do. Switches to a 2x weekly scheduled reset to give more to do and fix the confusing cadence, everyone complains that there's too much raid prep. You don't have to get fully buffed every lockout, imagine, you don't have to get orange parses on every lockout of a seasonal game mode to enjoy the game.Comment by KMcKeeI feel like core content like MC, BWL, AQ40, NAXX should only ever be on a weekly lockout. Things like world bosses, Ony, ZG, AQ20 would be acceptable on the biweekly lockouts.Comment by Beepbop123Glad you guys are hearing that feedback! Weekly resets are the way to go especially with so much other wow content coming two raids a week would kill SoD.Comment by NightElfHunter26I think anyone asking for 2 resets a week is missing the big picture here.

x2 MC - "Fine I can do 2 MC's a week. Once we get gear we can clear quick!"

x2 MC + x2 ZG - "Damn, we are clearing but this game is taking up a lot of my time.. Looks like I can forget about trying other classes or playing other games."

x2 MC + x2 ZG + x2 BWL - "I haven't showered in a week and forget shaving, I gotta farm consumes and get WB's for next raid!"

x2 MC + x2 ZG + x2 BWL + x2 AQ - "Honey, Little Ricky never liked baseball anyway and my hemorrhoids are fine, I'm only sitting down 17 hours a day."

x2 MC + x2 ZG + x2 BWL + x2 AQ + x2 NAXX - "The wife took the kids, but who needs them. I took the orphan to the Westfall Lighthouse on children's week during the 5 mins I had between raid. Way better than going to Ricky's stupid ball games. Also, this ketchup packet from 6 weeks ago I found in the back of the fridge is the best thing I've had since Sharon left!"Comment by Sarevok6Good please don't let this go live imagine getting world buffs 2x a week to do molten core, bwl, ony, and world bosses now!Comment by tremens17I don't think anyone is actually against raiding more than once per week. They hate getting world buffs. Why not try limiting world buffs a little and only allow someone to have Darkmoon Faire and one of the city world buffs at a time (Warchief's, Rallying Cry, Spirit). Just remove Dire Maul, Songflower, Blasted Lands and Winterspring buffs when you enter the raid.Comment by HexxarPlease do not implement a twice a week raid. Look at your audience demographic most of us are in our 30’s with kids and barely have time to raid once twice would be awful. I also don’t want to get all my world buffs for 2 raids. Most people likes how ST was once a week and when Gnomer was twice a week attendance was awful.

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