Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury

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Comment by Beska

Evidently (since it's not on any currently killable boss' loot table, including the penultimate boss), it drops from Kil'jaeden, the last boss in the Sunwell Plateau. Other weapons suggested to drop from him include:
Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury,
Apolyon, the Soul-render,
Golden Staff of the Sin'dorei,
Sunflare
Crux of the Apocalypse.

Comment by Corbon

Actually this bow should have the class restriction Hunter on it, but then it might not find its way into the raid, if there's no Hunter present at the kill. Interestingly, it's listed as "disenchantable", but that might be an error.

It's also safe to assume that any equipment with an item level of 164 drops from Kil'Jaeden.

Edit: Well technically http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34196 has crit (in form of agi), atp and armor pen as well.

Comment by 52332

My first question was why, with the massive amount of Gamers playing hunters, hasn't a legendary bow dropped sooner.

However upon examination i guess it is lore. The other legendaries make sense, each one has lore behind it, a story explaining what makes it so special, and for a long time there were no real opportunities to Introduce a legendary bow.

It makes sense that The Blood elves would have such a bow as while many races have hunters, the blood elves are famous for having Ranger Lords.

On a side note, it would be nice to see more legendary and epic items effect the game in different ways. Much like the epic sword Ashbringer did. It would be a nice touch if while wearing this bow you got a more positive or simply different response from the Blood elves in Silvermoon

Comment by HolgerDK

Hmmm - doesnt the 2.7 speed make it very very very good for BM hunters?

Comment by 144671

I think the of lill87's post was making fun of all the people calling "Hunter weapon!" on an item that benefits other classes either just as well or more than hunters.

That being said, while any melee who takes this over a hunter should be shot, it is a GREAT stat stick ;)

Comment by 109210

Allerias Bow??

Comment by 97145

Finally, hunters get a legendary, and it's quite the legendary weapon indeed, the lore hasn't been released, so I'm just going to swoon over it's stats.

It's a 2.7 speed bow, which is an amazing speed for BM hunters using a 1:1 shot rotation, with some room to add a bit of haste and of course, improved Aspect of the Hawk. The additional stats are AMAZING, the agility, attack power, crit rating and armor ignore are incredible.

The biggest thing that makes this bow revolutionary is the fact it doesn't use ammo. Alot of people (obviously not theory-crafters), have asserted that the loss of 53dps ammo makes it a little less incredible. They are completely wrong. Steady shot damage is unaffected by ammunition, thereby not gaining the 53 dps boost auto-shot gained. While it was speculated Blizzard might change the formula to include ammunition to the damage somehow, this bow clearly predates that possible change. This bow will make steadyshot the grand majority of a hunter's DPS, and with bonuses from the T6 4-set bonus, where steadyshot damage is increased by 10%, this bow is going to make a huge difference. This bow is clearly above the rest, if you were to take any other bow and add 53 dps and remove the ammo requirement, it would have an incredible DPS boost already, but this bow does it with clearly superior stats. It basically adds 53 dps to steady shot damage on an incredibly buff bow. I expect to see hunter's DPS above Warlocks and Rogues regularly with this bow.

That this bow frees up a bag slot is the absolute smallest of it's advantages. I cannot say enough good things about this bow. It is simply incredible.
Thank you Blizzard. <3

Comment by Dranoel

Whereas there's been no official statement on the lore, you can do the research yourself, to some extent. Partial speculation, but it makes a lot of sense, and gave me an insight into what to expect the bow to be before it was named and released. Sunstrider's Longbow, once having belonged to Dath'Remar Sunstrider, handed down to Sylvannas Windrunner when she was the Ranger-General, last to defend The Sunwell. Theoretical, but along with

This ancient elven artifact is a flaming composite longbow. The arrows it shoots are automatically imbued as though they were flaming ammunition.

It makes sense to consider the Legendary Bow the very same, left in the ruins of the Sunwell after Sylvannas defeat and fall to the Lich King.

How it reached Kil'jaeden is another matter, either Arthas left it there or one of the now-inhabiting Demons brought it to him. One could consider after he established his foothold in Azeroth, he would work to enslave Sylvannas and her Forsaken again, taunting her with the heirloom as a gift of fealty and power.

It at least sounds more right and legendary than the level 1 trash item model she has in Undercity, or saying a powerful relic that had caused Arthas so much trouble in her hands was just left by her corpse for her banshee to recollect.

Comment by Miyari

Hi, I would appreciate it if users would please stop spamming this page with useless and non-constructive comments. It does no good to make comments accusing people of downrating comments with alts (it doesn't happen as much as you think), what you're probably seeing is an overactive moderation community on what is a considerably "hot" item. If you're viewing this page and are confused as to why your comment may have been downrated, you might want to review the Commenting FAQ.

But here, I'll combine all of the thoughts into one post so I can save you guys the downrating drama:

Yes it's a hunter weapon, no it doesn't use ammo, yes it's very powerful, yes you'll probably replace it at some point in Wrath of the Lich King, yes it's the highest dps bow in the game, yes it probably hits pretty very hard, qq your can't use it (although, note, it has no Hunter-only specification), no Blizzard isn't biased to hunters (there have been quite a few legendaries in the game prior that can't be used by hunters), I'm sorry you don't think Kil'jaeden is a bad enough dude lore-wise to drop a legendary, and it probably doesn't have a ridiculously high drop rate (maybe comparable to Warglaives).

Okay?

Comment by 76724

The first is dropped to Stefang, member of the Last Resort (EU-Boulderfist) guild.

Comment by 72359

Second legendary (lets count the Glaives as one Legendary) that has no Quest you have to do, to obtain the Item.

Legendaries in WoW:

Pre-BC Legendaries (Quest-Item)

Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros
Atiesh, Grand Staff of the Guardian

BC Legendaries (Drop from Bosses)

Warglaive of Azzinoth / Warglaive of Azzinoth
Thori'dal, The Stars' Fury

Comment by 158898

That's not true since steady shot ignores ammunition dps. For white damage the dps it's 109 but for steady shot and other skills that don't take into consideration DPS of ammu the bow's dps it's 162.

Comment by 148759

Finally some BM hunter love.
I was getting sick of the 3.00 weapons. Crossbow of Relentless Strikes
was a nice upgrade from 3.00 but this, this is godly.
Well here are the advantages over you average Marksmanship bow.

1. 2.70 speed. with Imp Aspect of the Hawk up (which shouldn't be hard because of the speed) and Serpent's Swiftness, you are already nearly at 2.00 speed, the optimal speed for a 1:1 Steady Shot rotation. All you need is one haste gear and presto 2.00 speed.

2. Does not use ammo. Bag space saved, nuf said.

3. Because it doesn't use ammo, Blizz added lot's of DPS to make up for the -51 DPS. All of that juicy DPS applies to your SS damage, unlike the ammo bonus. This is heavenly for maximum SS DPS

4. And last but not least, this bow offers a straight up DPS boost from any other bow, even subtracting for the loss of ammo.

All in all thank you Blizzard!

Comment by 165470

Since one of the drops is Coif of Alleria: www.wowhead.com/?item=34333

It would suggest that there was some sort of meeting/confrontation with Alleria Windrunner and Kil'Jaeden/Sunwell Plateau.

And so the bow could be/was Alleria's bow.

Also Coif Of Alleria is a hunter item ^^ (or enhancement shaman)

Comment by henkoz

Arís on Sylvanas EU has also got the bow, if any cares ^^

Comment by 165932

Btw this bow is actually called Holyarrow in Bloodelf language.

Me and 2 friends once had a 3v3 team by this name. My bloodelf friend simply said Holyarrow while having his own language turned on and what came out was Thori'dal. I was quite impressed when i found this bow with my name on it xD

Comment by kevinno

A rogue or warrior using this would be shot to death by thier guildmates.
You get the glaives, we will take this, thank you.
End of story.

Comment by 159313

There will be no cake for you.

Look at the AQ opening quest line. There's a Legendary mount Quest Reward.

Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21176)

Comment by 112826

warglaives and thori'dal. wheres the caster love? =)

Comment by Keishidu

You forgot the 15% speed increase that the bow gives to its self since its not added into the base items speed before hand

Comment by 174651

Why don't you guys get that this bow sucks. It has slightly higher dps than the other bows except for the fact that you don't get anything out of a quiver (which gives a speed bonus) and you lose over 50 dps from not having any arrows. 50 dps and a speed increase is worth spending a little bit of money.

Comment by 36054

The bow itself gives a speed bonus. 15% not sure if you are reading that correctly. As stated before it doesn't need arrows so you dont get a bonus from ammunition, but then again the bow has high DPS as it is and therefore doesn't need the added damage from ammunition. This bow doesn't suck at all. Id be extremely happy getting it. One more bag spot and not having to constantly buy ammo? Id throw out that purple junk any day for the orange :D

Comment by 56783

The high DPS on this weapon is worth more than having a lower DPS bow and arrow dps added to it.
This is because increased DPS on the weapon means increased average weapon damage, which in turn is factored into special shots.
You also get an additional backslot worth of inventory space, and your arrow consumption is removed. A truely legendary item, if used by a hunter.

Comment by 178810

Please tell me the people that are complaining aren't hunter's because we have been nerfed heavily enough for the last few years and lok'delar and rok'delar didn't quite do our classes justice. It's nice to know that end game or before that we as hunters have a decent choice in end game, as nice as the bow is the only pet peeve is that it's not specced specifically for hunters. GG for rogues and warriors... if u roll on this expect your guild to drop as this is a PURELY hunter weapon!

Comment by 179638

I find it stupid that they would put a weapon as powerful as this not limited to a specific class i mean the two azzinoth blades droped by illidan can only be used by rogues and warriors and this bow completly screams hunter and it annoys me that if it does drop everyone is gonna go after since its a legendary really stupid that its not made to be only used by hunters.

Comment by Schwarzkopf

In the Wrath of the Lich King expansion, one of the changes to the Hunter class is that Steady Shot will incorporate ammunition into its damage calculations. To help balance that, Blizzard is reducing the amount of +damage the ability applies to ranged damage, however they are adding two new ranks.

Of course currently, Steady Shot does not use ammunition in its calculations. That is primary attraction and absolute beauty of this weapon: it generates its own 0 DPS ammunition and has an incredibly high damage range, thus pushing Steady Shot's damage through the roof.

If your guild has cleared T6 content, the Bristleblitz Striker + Timeless Arrow = 148.8 DPS,
the Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas, the first upgrade from BBS, + Timeless Arrow = 150.3 DPS,
compared to Star's Fury's 162.8 DPS.

When Wrath is released, T6+ Hunters without the legendary will be able to achieve damage output close to Star's Fury, however it will remain a top weapon for some time. Blizzard is reducing the status of pre-Wrath legendaries just as they did with pre-BC legendaries. Kil'Jaeden guilds, savor it while you can.

Comment by mack

Just for the sake of information someone is still downrating/deleting comments with the FACT that Analogkid Undead Rogue from the guild Vicarious in the server Area52-US is the first world's rogue that obtained it.

Comment by 192608

Although it is obviously made for a hunter, this is the best item for DPS warriors also. But obviously like I said give it to a hunter first ><.

Comment by 48132

Turns out a Rogue was able to get the bow.

From what I understand, the raid leader didn't like the attitude of the hunters that went to the raid in weeks past and while raiding, so he decided to teach them a lesson.

edit: its an armory link not a keylogger.

Comment by 93191

Why would I want to get this? Not because it is an awesome hunter item, but because its name was written in orange. Yup.

Comment by 200795

Question, since Steady Shot WILL benefit from ammo dps, and that the highest ranged dps i've seen on a level 80 item, yet, is 130..

Will Thori'Dal still rule at 80? o.O

Comment by Zizalial

A hunter can dream, but to make it come true you must kill over and over and hope for the best.

Comment by Meera

Any hunter can explain me how much this bow will be useful? has decent dps rate and nice stats to wear until level 80. I know some good high-end bow + arrows could do nastier DPS, I'm just curious how much this would be on hunters.

Comment by brenthebli

So far, its better than all the lvl 80 epic bows. But heres an idea for a replacement:

Ice Shard Longbow

Obtained From: Arthas, or one of the other Icecrown Citidel bosses

The bow makes its own ice arrows to fire

has the haste boost from Thorendal

Has simaller, but pumped effects from Thorendal

Has legendary quality

Comment by 219228

A warrior with warglaives is just as OP, I would just wish there dropped legendary for each class

Comment by 228152

Primeira coisa, na minha opiniao foi um grande erro da blizzard esse arco, porque?

bem simples, colocar um arco lendario, de drop do sunwell? o patch que menos durou no jogo? e praticamente ridiculo, um arco tao bom, desenho tao bem feito, praticamente o sonho de todo hunter e ja acabou....

a xpac ta ai, e o fim do arco tambem, logo creio que a blizzard errou, devia ter esperado um pouco mais e feito um arco lendarioque realmente fosse usado no jogo.

errou simplemente no "quando" disponibilizou o arco...muito nem sentiram vontade de ir la pega-lo por sua pouca durabilidade em jogo.

"im trying to explanation my coment in english, but i think its not good idea, becase my english is bad.

however, i think the blizzard use the wrong way to put this bow in game.

blizzard put the bow on last patch...and the smaller patch, this is "the lendary bow" and? u dont have time to go take, and when the WOLK start this bow not is more "good".

in short word this is my opnion.

sorry for my english, but i trying help!"

Comment by 149629

any1 knows the display ID of this item?

Comment by 225305

Anarkihunt, Night Elf hunter on Dragonmaw got this today on Server first KJ kill

Comment by 178057

This thing looks absolutely MASSIVE on a male Tauren, taller than the actual player. Check it out on the new 3D Model Viewer. (I used Java)

Oh and yes, thish thing is Godly.

Comment by Ronyx

As Steady Shot now scales with ammo, and unless this bow gets a buff from blizz, you're going to see the Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas favoured over this.

Comment by 112391

I think that anyone else that rolls and gets the legendary bow and is not a hunter he should get a big kick in the ass. Unless there are no hunters in the raid who can roll for the bow. But thats stupid when a rogue or warrior roll for the bow and win it and not the hunters. The bow should always go to the class which can use it the best.

Comment by 211060

This was quite of a shock when i heard about it, ye, now u will say: welcome to last month.
anyway,
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765737195&sid=1&pageNo=1

Comment by 243544

my mage would do so much damage with that but hunters laugh at me when i roll on bows

Comment by 139657

I think the real question here is, what does it disenchant into?

Comment by 250546

this is hunters gear :D

Comment by Hurono

Steady Shot's getting nerfed. Sooo... Yeeeaaah... Wanna see how this plays out... I wanted this bow so badly, but next patch... Just wait and see. =/

Comment by 252110

what is the drop chance out of 100

Comment by 226458

i just wanted to point out that a rogue wielding thori'dal and BOTH warglaives of azzinoth would have immense DPS (ranged and melee)and also be the envy of basically the whole of 11mil+ players

p.s 3 legendarys is just plain greedy!

Comment by 218853

Too bad,as announced by blizzard for patch 3.1.0,Arrows and Bullets will no longer be consumed so this bow's amazing effect is useless as of 3.1.0

Comment by gggn4

THE BEST bow in the game even after WotLK and i think that will be the best bow even after the
lich king in self will be out (and that will happen in probebly 3.3.X and that means there will be a few new bosses that are stronger that naxx so.... SHIAAAAAAT!) anyways... really nice bow :D

Comment by 144662

It's time to take vengeance against the huntards in the game and call this a roguetard weapon.

Comment by 125168

Will be interesting if Blizzard change an old weapon when they remove ammo from the game entirely. This bow's best use at 80 is grinding, saving you gold when killing creatures for your daily quests and meat grinds.

With the ammo changes incoming soon, this bow will lose its extraordinary feature.

Anyway, this is a cliche but "old item is old", but legendaries will always have a uniqueness, except for this one.

Comment by Celia

Because this bow ignores ammo DPS, this bow will become progressively weaker as the game marches on. In BC the best ammo was 53 DPS, giving this bow an effective 109.8 DPS. With the release of Wrath, the best ammo is 67.5 DPS, making this bow effectively 95.3 DPS. If the game lasts long enough for 162.8 DPS ammo to be introduced, this bow will basically be worth zero DPS.

Comment by 199891

I wonder if the 15% haste change from effecting the quiver to affecting the auto shot will double stack with Thori'dal's effect since it only says quiver or ammo pouch haste effects.

Comment by rokkitan

I wonder if the 15% haste change from effecting the quiver to affecting the auto shot will double stack with Thori'dal's effect since it only says quiver or ammo pouch haste effects.

Edit: The bow used to have Legendary Bow Haste as earlier it was the quivers or ammo pouches that gave from 10 to 15% (maximum, reached with last quivers pre TBC and constant thereafter) haste and since this bow generated it's own arrows no quiver was needed. With patch 3.1.0 haste was built into autoshot and arrows stacked to 1000 removing the haste buff from this bow, before patch 4.0.1 removed ammo in the game. It's still an awesome looking bow with a nice firing animation.

Comment by 348607

I have a level 80 hunter, and by wowhead's database it says that this is the highest dps bow in the game. My question is, is it still worth it to try to get this at level 80? It is a full 20 dps higher than the next dps bow, so what should I do. Sunwell should be relatively easy at 80 for a 10 man raid.

Comment by 349685

and KJ is much easier to kill...

Comment by alfonzzo

since there's no "class: Hunter" designation, if a mage (for example) loots it will they still get the Feat of Strength achievement?

Comment by 359445

looks sweet

Comment by 333850

Today I compared this bow to some Epic Bows on PTRs from Pre-made chars. This is what I got:

Thori'dal, the Star's Fury vs Bow Siren's Cry vs Gun Giant's Bane

As you can see the Epics from Ulduar have a bit of a damage increase compared to the Sunwell Bow, but when you put down cost of Ammo and Ammo Pouches, I think you'll find that between those Ranged Weapons, Thori'dal, the Star's Fury is the most useful if you already have it from pre-WotLK. Otherwise with the 6% drop rate I'd say its not worth farming unless you've got a Guild who knows the place and you've got all that free time. (Or if you're just an Achievement Maniac and you want the Feat of Strength from the bow at all costs. :P) If you already have it though, and you're not a Tank ('cause if you are and you have that unless you re-specced at some point to Tanking you shouldn't really have that -saying this for Warriors-) use it, be grateful for the free Ammo and help some other poor bloke win his/her roll on his Ulduar Epic Bow/Gun. :P

Comment by Toldry

Thori'dal means "Splinters" in Darnassian.
But then again, many other 9 letter words are "Thori'dal" since that's how the Darnassian translating system works :(

Comment by 310456

Is this bow good for an 80 hunter? And (sorry but my main's still level 52) do the gates to sunwell plateau open at random dates by blizzard?

Comment by gnorkmazrigos

Friends come and go. Epics are soulbound.

Comment by gnorkmazrigos

this bow generates arrows, which will let hunters fill their bag with something else than arrows! ''Thori'dal generates arrows when the string is drawn''. this effect also gives a 15% ranged attack speed, which does not stack so you wont get 30% by using a quiver.

Comment by rotoro

as a hunter id love to have this bow no mater my lvl(currently lvl 80) i still think this bow is better then most bows c bows and guns in game, the speed is amazing with these stats it makes for the perfect weapon for any hunter spec, it could use a lil more agility but that's nothing that cant be fixed with a good scope. on top of that it dosent use ammo

if u get the chance to roll on this as a hunter (should have priority on need rolls for this or any other loot system) take it

alos a good weapon for any other class that use a some range to pull(of course u wont be using it to its full potential)

Comment by 384121

Do you even know what you're talking about?

The DPS I'm talking about is the DPS on weapon.

The Ulduar bows have weapon DPS of about 180. And that's without any arrows, which add a formidable amount of damage on their own.

This has weapon DPS of 162.8 and it's NOT affected by ARROW DPS because it doesn't USE arrows.

Even arrows available in BC granted 30 or more DPS to the weapon, which made this bow fairly comparable to level 70 epics of similar item level.

The only difference is that Steady Shot never took ammo/arrow DPS in consideration since it did Weapon Damage + Bonus Damage, and since Thori'dal had higher weapon damage/dps (which IS weapon damage divided by weapon speed), it would do a LOT more damage. On Steady Shots. Which were used by every spec back in BC, since Explosive shot wasn't yet in game.

And FYI, arrows' (and bullets, duh) own DPS is multiplied BY the weapon's speed. So an arrow with, say, 100DPS on a bow with 3 second attack speed would add 300 damage on every shot. Which is no joke, considering how right now, bows generally have some 600ish damage per shot, before AP and other damage enhancing effects taking place. And, of course, there aren't any 100 dps arrows... yet.

Oh, and if you DO only look at Steady Shot numbers, Thori'dal's damage would be obviously lower then Ulduar bows', but still at a fairly similar level.

(355+524)/2 + X + AP/14 = average damage using Steady Shot with Thori-dal, X being the bonus damage.

(387+661)/2 + X + AP/14 = average damage using Steady Shot with Siren's Cry.

Now, lets substitute 0 for X since frankly, X is the same in both cases and doesn't matter because it's the bonus damage on Steady Shot. And since hunters don't get a lot of AP from their weapon - most of it comes from their gear and their stat sticks since ranged weapons rarely have too much stats - maybe +/- 200 AP, no more. So the AP of a hunter wearing the same armor and spec using Siren's Cry will be vaguely the same compared to the AP of a hunter wearing the same armor and spec using Thori-dal, which lets us ignore AP in our calculation, since it doesn't have to be that precise.

So, what we're left with are 2 damage averages. 508 average damage coming from WEAPON alone per Steady Shot with Thori'dal, and 524 average damage coming from weapon alone per Steady Shot with Siren's Cry. Assuming the hunter has the same or similar AP, and the same talents which may or may not provide % increase to Steady Shot damage, the damage will be almost the same.

However, we must not ignore the fact that hunters do get a fair amount of their damage from Autoshots, especially since they can be fired while using Steady Shot. And in this case, Thori'dal loses miserably because it will only be able to do average of 508 damage on shot assuming the hutner has 0 AP, while Siren's Call with\124h\124r");] these babies will be doing an average of 524 + 67.5 X 2.80 damage resulting in 713 damage on average in the same impossible 0 AP and 0 mitigation situation. Which is a big increase.

So, yeah, I suppose if you have Thori'dal lying in your bank, it's certainly a good weapon to farm things, since they'd die quick in any case and you can just spam steady shot - you'd still do more damage then if you were melee, and you'd save the precious ammo which can be quite costly if you go out farming/PvPing/Rading often since the best ammo is player made at the moment.

Comment by 373326

When i went, the guy dropped it...some warrior needed it and won D:<

Comment by RedwoodElf

That's no excuse to downrate current, accurate information. If the post ABOVE it is now innacurate, then downrate it so the outdated information will eventually go away.

Comment by Saytek

Sorry about not telling anything useful (i know this isnt thotbot) but they should make a class :hunter on it, today i was the only hunter in the group and a rogue won this.They should seriously make a class specific item =(

Comment by 427968

Highest DPS in TBC

Comment by 338228

This bow kinda looks like Slyvanas Windrunners bow . Well when she was a high elf.

Comment by 438242

Post Patch 3.2, it's been confirmed by the Blue that for those who can not equip the Legendary items, we can not get the associated Feats of Strength Achievements. Per Blue Dev, the change was made "due to the new instance item trading feature" implemented in Patch 3.2.

I can confirm this, as I acquired Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury for my Death Knight a day after the implementation of Patch 3.2, but I did not get the Feat of Strength Achievement.

Here's the link with Blue's response:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110064020&sid=1

So for the aspiring players trying to get the FoS associated with BC legendaries, I say don't waste your time if you can't equip them!

Comment by 379468

If your a mage with this weapon your pretty dumb. no offence but my bet they are goin to add some weapons like this 1 some time when ICC comes out ( If you don't know what ICC is it is Icecrown Ciditdel were the Lich king will become a raid boss). Also careful in ICC i was attacked by the Lich king and he hits damage to every1 in the group i flew to close to him during a quest and well my pet didn't get out of there but i sure did.

Comment by reid52

Only one person can get the achievement per drop, unfortunately =[. Also, it didn't award me the achievement until I actually equipped it, meaning maybe classes that can't use bows can't get the achievement?

Comment by 440334

rate up that comment.... its freeking hilarious (talking about the guy who's saying something about ICC and his pet dieing) lol ^^ also, VERY nice bow, if anything keep it for when u go farm things and u will save TONS of gold on ammo ^^

Comment by 447857

Well this bow is cleanly AWESOME, the class that needs it more is ofc the hunter.
So if you win this bow as a warrior or rogue when there is a hunter in the group then you deserve to get killed. lol

Comment by 370638

Question...

Does this item only drop in heroic? Or can it be dropped on non-heroic?

Thanks.

Comment by 462275

ninja'ed by a mage yesterday what a $%^&*!@

Comment by darom

Looks like im not getting my ass kicked for saying hunter weapon

Comment by 488323

It is a Best weapon for hunter and warrior on http://gigafun.mightandmagic.cz
to je nejlepší zbraň pro huntery a warriory na http://gigafun.mightandmagic.cz

Comment by malrion

I still would love this for grinding in wotlk, completly empty bags ftw

Comment by 349685

omg...this is one reason that makes me want to go back to BC! this bow is beatiful! :D

Comment by trendyusername

My guildmates and I started a SW raid to help a level 70 in our guild. We only had nine people with the 70, so yeah, no go. We quit three pulls into it. But I'm a fresh level 80, and I STILL %^&*ING WANT THIS BOW. It's only got a stat loss of -3 sta and -11 agl compared to my current gun, everything else is BONUS. And not having to use ammo? I'd never get rid of it. Well, not NEVER, but you get the idea.

I would have a bank slot reserved for it, and pull it out every now and then just to sigh at it... = w=

Maybe I can bully my guildmates into doing a full-guild run of it. Or at least 15 people.

Comment by Daniera

Up until they reduced the amount of saronite needed to make arrows, I was using this bow in heroics and in Naxx to save time farming. Its still a great bow to use when running around in the world and I occasionally get whispers when I'm seen using it :)

Comment by 146605

The Monday prior to 3.3.2 patch, we downed Kil'Jaeden and this dropped.

We were all 80s and I was the only hunter, though there was one rogue and two warriors who could also equip it.

By the time we sorted it out, no one remembered if they passed or greeded or whatever, so I Needed it and got it.

Not actually planning to use it, I then rolled off against the warriors and the rogue for who keeps it.

The rogue won, I traded it to her, she equipped, and got the Achievement, which we hadn't known about. She said that the 2 hour trade limit still seemed to be on it, so she traded it back to me, I equipped it, and also got the Achievement, and traded it back to her.

However, when she traded it to one of the warriors, he equipped it but DID NOT get the Achievement.

So..it IS possible to get more than one Achievement from one drop, but it may be limited by either two APs, or perhaps by the number of times it is traded.

Comment by 368021

It will probably be removed of the release of Cataclysm. Just fyi. :)

Comment by TheeObserver

If you view Thori'dal and Abbadon or any other weapon in the same column in the item comparison tool's 3D-viewer, it puts both of the weapons in the same hand and it melds them together to make one weapon and it looks pretty sweet with Abbadon in my opinion.

Comment by 559325

seriously i would trade a small child to have this.

Comment by 269423

dropped today on Area 52, it was open rolls so anyone could roll people thought you could get the FoS even if you couldnt equip... DK won he was offered 20k for it and turned it down.... kinda sad to see it rotting on a char that cant get the FoS and or show it off.

Comment by 570498

still one of the best bows in the game even if you are 80 XD

Comment by 11661

Come Cataclysm, the magical properties of this bow will be applied to all bows and guns.
According to the Cataclysm Hunter Class preview, ammunition will be removed from the game.

A major change coming for the hunter is the removal of ammunition. Guns, bows, and crossbows will now do damage without consuming ammunition at all. There will be no more ammo slot on the hunter’s character display.

This change will affect all bow/gun wielding classes. Existing ammunition will no longer have a function and will turn into a junk quality item.

Comment by 592508

I'm trying to get Thori'dal for my hunter and everybody says:"that's really hard to get why do you spend time in Sunwell Plateau trying to get it? It's so stupid!". Actually, is not. It has to drop to someone we must try if we want them... It's hard to get but when you have it you feel good because you went there thousand times but you have it! So if people keep saying that don't listen when you have it you feel great!

Comment by 642053

Finally finished both glaives and Thori'dal this morning on my 70 twink.

Thought you guys might be interested in video of all 3 items dropping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CFy3BEo8yc

Comment by Kaossi

The bow dropped tonight (18/08/2010) for our guild, my hunter won the item.
It was our first Kil'jaedan kill so it was even more surprising. I'm glad to say this item will be put to its intended use instead of rotting away in a bag or in a bank slot on a character that will never use it. I only hope the other Hunters will have their Thori'dal soon as well.

If nothing else, the fact it shoots blue magical arrows is seriously cool. I prefer to sit on autoshot purely for the looks.

Cerena - 70 Night Elf Hunter

Acquired Taste - Boulderfist EU

Comment by Paulosio

You wont get the Feat of strenth by trading the item around a raid (only the person who looted the item originally can get the FOS) However you will recieve the feat of strength even if you weren't the original looter of the item but had it traded to you if you xrealm with the bow (not sure if you need to equip after xrealm). I'm not sure if a race change would work in the same way.

Someone I know had the bow traded to them and of course didn't recieve the FOS at the time but when he xrealmed a couple of months later he did get the FOS.

Comment by 685064

seriously blizzard. ADD A HUNTER RESTRICTION! 47 RUNS OF THE RAID ONLY TO HAVE IT NINJAD BY SOME ROUGE THAT I DONT EVEN KNOW!

Comment by 688560

farming this bow lol

Comment by 98874

Now, after 4.0.1, all bows do not require ammo.

But Thori'dal still brags about it.

Comment by Grimtongue

This weapon is no longer considered best in slot for 70 hunters. Golden Bow of Quel'thalas is better.

Comment by 415054

Now that the magic arrows are obsolete, the effect should be replaced by something cooler. For example; "Equip: This bow shoots witches instead of arrows."

Comment by 748840

Cataclysm ruined this once marvelous bow, with the removals of quivers from WoW. This bow is old news now, lost what made it special.

I'm sad to see it go out without a farewell.

Comment by Guanyin

Actually, I think the "bonus" effect is even more awesome now. Some DO care about the "old days". I would hate this to change. It's a great piece of vanity gear.

Comment by 760942

It's still awesome for BM hunters, but it's a shame that the "no arrrows" effect won't make the difference anymore. Still may come in handy for other classes tough.

Comment by dubplate

Now in RL!

Comment by 540490

Ive seen some pictures of new models for Halduron Brightwing in patch 4.1 including new weapon surprisingly he now has a bow that has the exact same model of Thoridal perhpaps lorewisely he will be the next owner of it?

Comment by 824982

Did anyone notice that after patch 4.1
Some new effects has been added?
Now when you pull the string and before you let go the arrow
there's a white orb on your left hand.
and when you keep moving around and shoot
the orb stretch into a star tail

I apologize for my bad English
I'll try to sent some screenshots

Comment by trollhuntard

Great Tips!

Comment by 824982

To:Gratze
This bow still drop in patch4.1
my level.70 warrior loot this 14hours ago

this link is the battle.net of Taiwan about my character ↓

http://tw.battle.net/wow/zh/character/%E6%88%B0%E6%AD%8C/%E9%BA%A5%E7%90%B3%E7%91%9F%E6%8B%89/feed

Comment by 836533

blizz should buff all legendary weapons to the maxium level. i mean legendary should always stay legendary, dont they? why dont keep them like that?

Comment by 849411

this is strange because i did a similar thing with the warglaives. I had the main hand, Some DK won the OH and traded it so i could get my achivement, i got my FoS for having the glaives, and so did the guild, Upon relogging i still have my achivement, and so does the guild.

Comment by Peso

Patch 1.1 - Patch 7.0.3

Talisman of Binding Shard
Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros
Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian
Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian
Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian
Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian
Warglaive of Azzinoth
Warglaive of Azzinoth
Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury
Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings
Shadowmourne
Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest
Golad, Twilight of Aspects
Tiriosh, Nightmare of Ages
Qian-Le, Courage of Niuzao
Xing-Ho, Breath of Yu'lon
Jina-Kang, Kindness of Chi-Ji
Fen-Yu, Fury of Xuen
Gong-Lu, Strength of Xuen
Qian-Ying, Fortitude of Niuzao
Thorasus, the Stone Heart of Draenor
Nithramus, the All-Seer
Maalus, the Blood Drinker
Sanctus, Sigil of the Unbroken
Etheralus, the Eternal Reward

Comment by wowgeek123

This is by far the easiest legendary to obtain. All you need is for it to drop. Other legendaries are either crafted or a long quest chain (with the exeption of Warglaives, which have a smaller drop rate, and twice as unlikely to get).

This is definately a hunter weapon, but a warrior COULD use it too (never give this to a warrior over a hunter).

Comment by 832861

Is this soloable as a level 85 hunter?

Comment by hannibalektr

There should be a legendary quest for each class, with a super hard, long questline filled with outrageous achiev's, and faction grinding with each end game patch to the expansion with some kind of reward like this.

For instance, here's some questlines they had specifically for hunters;
The Ancient Leaf or The Green Drake Seems they are now actually deleting these, shame.

I really miss class specific quests with epic/legendary rewards. No quest is more rewarding or fun to rush through and grind out.

Think of the play time Activision (vivendi), formerly blizz, whatever, would get from every person in the game from questlines like this. Geez, talk about missing the boat! And to think, you could have had a corner office with this idea!

: x Doh!

Comment by Apash

This bow only drops in heroic mode,where Kil'jaden rises and attacks you with his LEGS!IT'S A NEW FREAKING MECHANIC!

Comment by 670539

Got mine last week. Was not farming for it, was just lucky. Hopefully you have a group that will default it to the hunter, or make the rules so you can do so.

Comment by jprich

Only hunters can use/equip ranged weapons in MoP.
If you want this and you are anything other than a hunter...better start farming runs now.
I know I am. < warrior

Comment by Elfcraig

Just dropped today (10/12/11) for my brother and I. He won it because i was on my dk. WOW was so excited never seen a legendary drop before and i just got the mount of attumen the day before what luck! Going to go try BT for the Warglavies :P
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/amanthul/Agenn/simple

Comment by 318879

Still drops as of 4.3.

Ran SWP with 2 pally,priest and a druid. It of course droped for us when no one could use it.

Comment by anglinj

this should be a hunter only weapon -____-

Comment by Sorraxe

I dont know if this was mentioned before, but so far i have seen a Paladin having the Feats of Strength Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury
Still i dont know if this is still obtain or fixed, but in any case, i wonder why such things dosent get removed from the classes who cant ''wield it''

I believe at one point you could get the FoS w/o to actually having to equip the item. Might got changed in Cataclysm.

Check Paladin player ''Absalom'' , on US illidan/ Guild Blood Legion. Cool Achiv on for a paladin thou :)

Comment by 869993

Still drops as of 4.3. Just dropped tonight in the run where a hunter wanted to get the Transmog bow off twins. That didnt but this did. Well worth the run!

Comment by 788178

Just won this in a guild group. Too bad it can't be transmogged. Nice looking bow and got us the guild achievement. Super easy 6 man-no tank but one healer.

Comment by NeinnaWR

Doing this raid in Cata took like 20 minutes of goofing around. The fight was a pushover, and I was just there on a rogue for the Sunwell achievement and maybe a little extra gold. Then the bow dropped. The 70 hunter RL freaked out, and more than half the raid (including healers and tanks) needed. I giggles to myself and said, "Sure, why not?" and needed too.

I won. I'm on a lvl 85 rogue alt and I won what my hunter would die to have. In the end, I gave it to the 70 hunter, but I secretly wished that I kept it all for myself. I hate having morals.

Edit: By the way, I had to equip it for the achievement. I don't remember seeing him get the achievement, so I don't think you can just pass it around and give everyone the achievement.

Comment by Zeals

1/11 Hit 85 after 3 days of leveling from 1. Got Destroyer's End title on 1/14th and bow on my first run of Sunwell on this character on the 1/15th. Since there isn't any goblin screenshot with the bow, I'll post one up.

I don't know if this is fixed, but when multishotting as Survival you only get the blue arrow for the current target, not all targets the multishot is hitting.

Comment by Alteir

The magical glowing arrows fired by this bow occasionally appears inside the bow when they are drawn, creating a very noticeable and cool glow on your character. It also creates a brief glow trail.

Comment by JezzebelPop

This bow dropped tonight and my friend ended up getting it AFTER it was won by someone else, they just wanted the achievement. When traded and equipped by my friend the achi didn't ding and it didn't for me when traded to me.

Seems a shame and kind of annoying for those just wanting the achievement since this cannot be transmogged.

Comment by 941779

Best looking bow in game ever

Comment by 938028

How hard will this b to get while Lvl 70 and decked out on t6 hunter set and a couple of firelands geared 85 guildmates?

Comment by DjMonkeyMan

I was so happy when I got this....I wanted it for a transmog but now i got a gun.....so now I need a new bow XD

Comment by Hagendaz1337

Got this last night 3 manning Sunwell, me (A blood dk in dps gear) a fire mage and a shadow priest. This happened to drop on our 16th kill which implies the drop rate is about at 6% which wowhead states. I paid the priest 25k for it, since I enjoy collecting legendaries. I have all of the ones I can obtain except my offhand glaive. Stick with it and it'll drop sooner or later.

Hagendaz - Argent Dawn

Comment by 967023

I'll never forget when i won this on my very first Sunwell run, not even knowing what a legendary even was.

Comment by 65370

i did this raid yesterday, and this AWESOME bow drop!
but.... a rogue took it.. he said he need the agi from it. he was a 70, and i am 85 Hunter.
i dunno, but i was like hey you are a rogue not a huntard..
upset? you tell me..

Comment by DIstevenash

Made a series of videos for hunters interested in Solo Farming this bow, as well as the Golden Bow of Quel'thalas. I would recommend at least around a 384-390 average ilvl as a few of the fights will really test your abilities as a hunter. Good Luck and have fun!

youtube.com/user/disteevnash

Comment by Zkortar520

What's the best Enchant for this Bow?

Comment by 1005715

As far I know Thori'dal's translation is Fury of the Stars
Thori = Fury
Dal = Star
Thori'dal = Fury of the Stars

Comment by 1006435

1111111111111

Comment by Frizzlecrank

Totally ~~not~~ for hunters, as they ~~don't~~ wield bows and guns, ~~they use shields,two-handed dual-wielded swords, offhands, but wait, there's more!~~ and it's even a pretty much epic model for a~~ny bow-using class~~ hunter.

Comment by Ellinna

Has a pretty high drop rate, 6%. I was lucky enough to see it drop today and watching as two hunters were eager to win it for themselves.

Comment by Mormolyce

For some bizarre reason Thori'dal is getting a significant damage buff in MoP, up to 54 AGI 83 STA, 51 crit and 54 haste. Latest damage buff ever?

Comment by 615183

THIS JUST IN.... Blizzard makes legendary weapon... legendary, two expansions too late!

Comment by ironskillet

well with a new expansion stats have new meanings, perhaps they are updating its values to keep it the same? no idea just guessing lol

Comment by baconseed

This weapon used to be very unique a few years ago as it didn't require ammo.

Comment by Slylady

As of Mists of Pandaria, This items stats have been greatly increased.
New Stats http://www.wowdb.com/items/34334-thoridal-the-stars-fury#15972-15983

Comment by Vaylinn

The old, real stats before Cataclysm arrived:

Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury
Binds when picked up
Unique
Ranged------------------------------------------------- Bow
355 - 524 Damage---------------------------Speed 2.70
(162.8 damage per second)
+17 Agility
Durability 145 / 145
Requires Level 70
Item Level 164
Equip: Increases your critical strike by 16.
Equip: Increases your attack power by 34.
Equip: Increases your armor penetration rating by 17.
Equip: Thori'dal generates magical arrows when the
bow string is drawn. Does not use ammo.

Comment by damekage

As of patch 5.0 this weapon can no longer be equipped by Warriors or Rogues this is due to the fact that proficiency with bows has been removed from both classes.

Which means it is a hunter only legendary as of this change.

Edited for explanation as to why it is no longer able to be equipped.

Comment by FelixTheGreat

Man,I need to start leveling and buy WoW!

Comment by 1065271

As of today I have finished MSV (LFR) in all 70 gear including this bow :D

Comment by Xeruvim

the raid is solable at 90 for a hunter, and if doesn't what is the min number of player that needs?

Comment by Mondoblasto

Somewhere in the bowels of Blizzard Headquarters, the Item Development department had a meeting, back in the days of yore (or 2006-2007, if you prefer...)

Blizz Item Developer One: Okay, we've finished Warglaives of Azzinoth, they're one-handed swords that are dual-wielded, with Agi, Stam and Hit Rating, so obviously they're only gonna be for warriors and rogues.

Blizz Item Developer Two: But wait, what about hunters?

Blizz Item Developer One: ...What?

Blizz Item Developer Two: Well, those are excellent stats for hunters. They use Agi, everyone needs Stam, and they're big on Hit Rating. Plus they can dual-wield one-hand swords. They're gonna want to roll on them too, you know.

Blizz Item Developer One: ...Oh, right. Well, we can just class-exclude them, so problem solved.

Blizz Item Developer Two: But what about that new bow that's being worked on? Um, "Thorny Dal", or whatever-it's-called?

Blizz Item Developer One: What about it?

Blizz Item Developer Two: That one's not being class-excluded from all other classes other than hunters...

Blizz Item Developer One: Yeah, so?

Blizz Item Developer Two: Well, warriors and rogues can use ranged weapons too, so they'll be able to roll on the bow if it drops. So that means they can use the swords and the legendary bow at the same time, while hunters can't use swords that are good for them, and their legendary can be used by the two classes that are not excluded from the swords? Someone's going to figure that out eventually...

Blizz Item Developer Three: (to Dev 2) That's a good point. (to Dev 1) He's/She's right, wouldn't that be a tad unfair?

Blizz Item Developer One: Well, sucks to be them. If they want the swords too, they'll just have to re-roll. /shrug

Comment by Yogthsothoth

just got this today..im a warrior

i look pretty rp in town with this and cursed vision though :D

Comment by 100554

So, was doing SP out of boredom and Transmog gear when All of a sudden, THORIDAL!..... on my DK.... -.- Yay RNG

Comment by mcwood

Hi, Im a Warrior and Ive been so blessed as to have gotten this bow on my 2nd recent solo run. But Im not here to brag, Im kind of sad really. Oh SURE, I can equip it and get an achievement and that's great but... ever since they removed the Shoot ability I cant actually FIRE the bow. All the anticipation, hearthing to Shrine running out to a test dummy right clicking... only to just stand there with my (Undead) claws at the ready. Oh I'm sorry, your character no longer has the mental capacity to ever pull the string back and fire it. Its DEPRESSING... my moment to finally just look at my own character and revel in my dumb luck... and I cant even look at the animations.

Comment by dsuhr14

I asked my friend to help me do Sunwell for my first time trying to get the golden bow of quel'thalas for transmog it did not drop as a joke I said hey we have like a 5% chance Kil'jaedan drops thori'dal then we both had a nice laugh knowing it would not happen. Funny thing is it dropped and I have been running black temple every week for the past 2 months trying to get Black Bow for transmog and the legendary bow dropped before it. Blizzard really does not want me to have a cool transmog yet they would like me to have a legendary but I am not complaining.

Comment by Donaran

The legendary bow ist no longer obtainable for classes like warriors and rogues due to changes of the weapon wealding abilites! Too sad, had been farming for so long!

Comment by Romire

Seems this bow is dropping heavily latley

Comment by Kalsam

I meant to post this back during Dragon Soul time, but forgot until now when I came here to find the Item ID for something.

Anyhow!
The achievement is only received when you both loot AND equip it. Meaning you won't get the achievement if someone trades it to you.

I hadn't known this when some friends and I ran, and a shaman rolled on it for a chuckle. He traded it to me, thinking I'd get the achievement anyway. Nada. I equipped it and everything, feeling sad that I'd still have to run SWP for the ach.

BUT
Later on down the road (About 4-5months later), I zoned into Dragon Soul to do an alt run on my hunter, and decided to use the bow for fun. BOOM, achievement appeared to everyone's astonishment.
I don't know what bug caused it, if any. But if anyone's had the same thing happen, try doing that. I hope you'll be as lucky and be awarded the achievement.

My hunter with bow: Lyrinana - Arthas US (I try to always log out with it on)

Comment by 869164

Got it on my 21st run, so don't give up hope guys this one isn't bad just put the dedication in ( having a few characters that can farm it doesn't hurt). This puts me up to five legendaries... Come here Val'anyr.

Comment by wynaught

If Blizz ever allows transmog to legendaries, Northrend Frozen Mail (Recolor) seems to match pretty well with the gold and the glowing blue dots.

Comment by 1010291

This dropped for me and i almost threw up from excitement, but then my guild leader rolled need and got it and he wouldn't give it to me even though i was the only hunter. I left the guild 10 seconds after that. Don't be a troll and take this when you can't equip it. That's just being a @#$%.

Comment by JadeGryphon

I'll probably be downrated for "QQ'ing" but...I've only seen this drop once....and it was during a Sunwell Raid on a "Drunk Black Temple" night in the guild I was in, which is, the entire guild gets smashed while doing old raids...but I don't drink, so me and a few others were sober. Anyway, I need'ed on it...then suddenly out of nowhere, the guild leader goes, "Hey, let's all need on it and give it to the hunter of the guild!" Everyone enebriated all rolled need on it...and gave it to some other hunter who quit wow the very next day. I was not thrilled at all and even briefly debated quitting the guild, but out of respect and honor of my friends, I stayed. Thankfully, that guild is now dead, and we moved servers on top of that. Here's hoping it drops again someday!

Comment by Furydeath

Just got this...on my mage well least I can vendor it for 18g I should make a video wish I could DE it.

Comment by deconex

Got on second run .. :) lucky

Comment by 973701

This will surely get downrated but gonna post anyway. My hunter recently hit 500 ilvl so decided to see if Sunwell was soloable. It was and the bow dropped. Very nice.

Previously done about 3-4 runs on hunter with groups where it hadn't dropped so it's not as lucky as it seems.

Comment by MerricMaker

As of patch 5.3 it takes like fifteen minutes to solo Sunwell. I've been doing that since longer than Sunwell was progression content and still don't have the bow.

I'm sure it's still on the loot table, but sheesh is it ever a low drop rate.

Comment by 1132513

I just Sunwell for 1st time only for an xmog run and got this drop :D I got both bows in one run!

Comment by 1005460

I got this bow on the first run at 70

Comment by xkrissi

The mini heartattack you get when this drops on your first run.. :^). But the sadness when you're a dk :/

Comment by Girby2K13

Guaranteed drop? 28 runs and counting.

Comment by 749833

First legendary I have gotten. First run on this raid as well. Woohoo.

Comment by bluecoat7

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By numberonehunter (509 – 1·7) on 2013/06/28 (Patch 5.3.0) Out of Date | Report
This dropped for me and i almost threw up from excitement, but then my guild leader rolled need and got it and he wouldn't give it to me even though i was the only hunter. I left the guild 10 seconds after that. Don't be a troll and take this when you can't equip it. That's just being a @#$%.

To be fair hunters have been rolling on my rogue daggers and 2h weapons for 3 xpac....so karma. Maybe not you directly but hunters in general.

Comment by 147261

Finally got this bow last night after about a month of farming for it and the Golden Bow of Quel'thalas. both bows dropped in one instance shat a brick indeed! was not about to let this beautiful bow get robbed by some $%^&*!@ so after many many tries i got soloing the instance down pat just so i could get it. wanted it back in BC but sadly my hunter wasn't geared enough and my main was pally..so the moment i could do this place on my own i knew i'd have it.

Comment by 1192831

I decided to run this raid once again last night with a buddy of mine. I've run this place so many times ever since early Wrath, and up until last night I've only seen this bow drop ONCE in the years I've been playing WoW.

So I went in not expecting it to drop or anything, I didn't even hope it would. I guess the timing was right, or karma loved me.... I had taken my hunter which was the best part (I've run this on my warrior, paladin, warlock and death knight before), and the moment I saw it in the loot window, my jaw hit the floor!

It was a good thing my buddy was a shaman! He said "all you buddy :D"

So my advice to anyone else after this baby, just go in with it in your mind that you don't expect or hope it'll drop. I'm a very laid-back player, and usually just go along with friends with what ever they want to do. When my buddy asked if I wanted to run Sunwell for some transmogs, the bow hadn't even entered my mind.

That's five and a half years I've been playing WoW now (started in the Summer of '08), and only seen this baby drop twice now! (out of a couple dozen times I've run this raid)

Comment by Chrii

Imo all legendarys should work like a heirloom 1-90, since its so hard to obtain, with exception of cloak. Maybe that one unlocks after WOD launches so it can be sent to other toons.

Legendary cloak
Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest
Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros
Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
Warglaive of Azzinoth & Warglaive of Azzinoth
Shadowmourne
Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury
Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings

Discuss, what do you think?

I think it would be awsome to be able to use my Thunderfury 1-90(100)

Comment by 472645

Just leave legendaries as non-transmoggable

OR

I reckon legendaries should only be allowed to be transmogged IF and only if you earned it/ picked it up when it was relevant to your level (i.e. a 70 hunter picking the bow up during TBC with a group of 24 other 70s). That means you earned the legendary the normal way and not having someone help you kill the boss, solo it cause you're 20 levels higher, etc. It should also be earned when the expansion was relevant. Something like how the Zul' Aman bear mount was removed. (Although I think it's back.)

And if they want to transmog it, it should only be applicable to epic (purple) weapons in the content. (it's just silly to transmog a green/blue bow to look legendary).

This would mean that ONLY people who played during TBC era will be able to transmog the bow. I think this would be the ideal transmog law for legendaries. Having played this game for years, I think this would benefit the people who actually spent time to read up the fight, defeat the crazy boss and roll for it without having it ninja-ed (back when rolling for it was done by doing /roll).

As a hunter, it's already painful to see people running around wielding the glaives WHEN you know they solo-ed Illidan. It really diminishes the reward for putting the time and effort to earning it.

Comment by bobalmity36

Dropped on my first solo run.
When I tried to loot, this message came up: "Inventory is full."
Oh well, I'll get it another time

Comment by 1200656

Heya :)
Any sets That goes with this beauty? :-) Plz xD

Comment by Merlias

This dropped on my Paladin during my first ever run through The Sunwell (solo-run), i was only after the achievement for killing Kil'Jaeden. I was so happy this dropped bu then unworldly annoyed when i found out i didnt get the Achievement for obtaining it and then finding out i couldn't send it too my hunter.....now it's just sat rotting in the bank because i can't do a single thing with it =/

Comment by Volleynova

When Thoridal first arrived on the scene, there was no weapon like it. It was the first hunter weapon to not consume ammunition, making it ridiculously valuable for any hunter. Imagine, going to raids and doing content without having to spend massive amounts of gold refilling your quiver.

Blizzard eventually removed ammo consuming completely, a move many hunters still rejoice about and we love our extra bag slot to this day.

Comment by Volleynova

Ahhh, so after 1.5 years of farming every week for it, and 6 years of raiding Sunwell overall, my bow drops today and it is mine. Glorious victory. My hunter is now complete and it feels great.

This is a confirmation to all hunters out there still trying to get this bow, it still drops and no, you don't need to kill Kalecgos first.

Comment by 1030011

Okay, very strange thing happened in the last 24 hours. On my hunter, I did Molten Core for the first time and both bindings dropped for me, and I got Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker in maybe 60 minutes worth of work. So I decide today to give the Sunwell a go for the first time on that same toon, my hunter. BOOM Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury drops. I feel that I am very lucky. So in an effort to make this informative this item still drops, so for the unlucky folks who are hunting for this, keep at it, it still drops.

Comment by Laran

Ran SP for the first time (strange actually) in my almost 4 years of playing WoW... well, this dropped! Every hunter in the guild hates me!

Comment by DarkDestroyer

So I solo'd Sunwell for the first time on my paladin, defeated Kil'jaden got the completion achievement, look at the drops, and to my surprise, both the bow AND Golden Staff of the Sin'dorei dropped. I was mad that I couldn't equip either of them, but whatever. The bow shall forever remain in my bank as a symbol of my luck.

Anyway, it appears that you don't even need to equip it anymore for the guild achievement. As soon as I picked it up, I earned the achievement. So for those guilds who are still missing this weapon for the meta achievement, fear not! Any class can go and get it, and simply pick it up.

Unless it just bugged for me.

Either way, this game just likes to screw with you.

Comment by SpectraKitty

I JUST got this bow today 7/ 01 / 2014 :D it's smexy looking! :D Must've taken blizzard a long time to design that bow

Comment by ZelonL

This is a Joke.... i got it in my first run ever to this place with a DK >_< if i least could transmog the heirloom bow with it...

Comment by Neutralis

I feel that legendary weapons should scale with you and not just be for looks anymore.

Also I think this was meant to go along with the Rift Stalker outfit.

Comment by ucplayer

I just got this! And it was my 3º kill!
Usually I'm not that lucky...today I was for a change.
Still need Golden Bow tho.

Comment by zarinda

I must be the unluckiest person playing wow, i have beeing killing kiljaden for several weeks with 2 hunters and no thori'dal. So grats you all that get it in 1- 3 times running sunwell.

Comment by 220320

At last, after 5 years of continuous farm, I have seen the Thori for the second time and looted it. No more SWP for me =)

Comment by saulwhite

When you try to put the Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury in the void storage, you get the error: "You cannot deposit unique items in the void storage". What's up with that? Is it too awesome for the void storage?

Comment by 1292722

I am about tired of farming for legendaries. I have been farming for years now each week for each of the old school legendaries on various character with no luck at all. Been playing since vanilla. I have no luck at all I guess.

Comment by Dramoth

Well... I decided to take my mage for a run through the Sunwell last night. Just for the hell of things and to see what I can get (collecting mats for one of my other enchanting toons)... and after killing Kil'jaeden I wander over to loot his rotting corpse. Not really paying attention, I notice a flash of orange flash past.

Yes... it was Thori'dal dropping on my freaking mage.

My hunter is now over in the corner crying his eyes out because I didnt think to take him along for the run instead of the mage.

Needless to say, I am a touch disappointed now. Stoked to have a legendary item drop for me... pissed off that it was on the wrong toon.

Comment by alber

you cannot transmogrify or use the appearance of a legendary item.

Comment by 1398427

Got him today with my hunter after about 10 runs :D

Comment by Volleynova

I absolutely love my bow, but I am dying for a transmog.

Comment by 1279181

Went first time sunwell at my hunter today - and it dropped :D waiting for transmog =(

Comment by 1355902

Twice now has the second to last boss on Sunwell Plateau glitched up on me and the entrance + exit to the boss' room remained closed, even after I defeated the boss.
Does anybody know what causes that glitch to happen? Or if it even happened to anyone else? Because this prevents you from reaching Kil'Jaeden at all until the next weekly reset, and the drop rate on this bow is already low enough.

Comment by 1092788

I got this the first time i ran sunwell...on my paladin

Comment by Lodenuri

Just got this bow after about 12 runs. Super awesome, now hopefully Blizz will allow transmogs of the legendaries at some point.

Comment by 1433416

I'm currently using this bow on my lvl 70 hunter for gits and shiggles, there is speculation that Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas is marginally better, but I prefer the haste on Thori'dal. I've found a decent transmog set that to me compliments the feel of a high elf ranger-general who might use a bow similar in design. The set uses Radiant Set (Recolor) with The Wavemender's Mantle as shoulders and Malefactor's Eyepatch as a helm. This set would easily compliment Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas at lvl 100 for full transmog purposes and you can use whatever cloak/tabard you feel befitting of it. I've chosen Tabard of the Shattered Sun, but Tabard of Summer Flames / Tabard of Summer Skies both work well with this set as well. The visual look of the auto-shots firing from this beauty are still tons of fun to view when blowing up regular BC dungeons with this thing.

Comment by avatarofshadow

Dear diary,

Today, I got my first legendary item, ever. I was farming for the new 6.1 pets, and I got this really cool bow. On my druid. Right after my hunter finished doing the same raid.

At least my one-person guild got 20 achievement points out of it, I guess.

Comment by xdnxsavage

got this bow on my 88 hunter yesterday on my second run through. was disappointed to find out you cant use it as a trnsmog.

Comment by Vuoripeikko

Hunter weapon.

Comment by 845940

Dropped on Exodar today at 2:50 in case anyone keeps up with it!

Comment by Franklinzap

I'm surprised I haven't seen more posts about this for Timewalking. Going to be fun shooting pretty arrows again for those dungeons.

Comment by 1494450

I went to sunwell to get the new pets...suddendly, it dropped this bow. I didn't even knew that this legendary existed :D

I was happy...but I'm also a shaman...
Now it's going to decay in my bag. :/

Comment by ricangsxrdude

After about 100+ runs, this wonderful legendary bow drops for my Hunter. I remember seeing it ages ago when it was current, and another hunter grabbing it. I'm glad I don't have to go to Sunwell Plateau ever again.

Comment by Neutralagent

For timewalking this is actually favourable for both Burning Crusade and Wrath dungeons since the Wrath dungeons scale items down to 160 and this item is 164, oddly enough the damage per second apparently goes up when it scales down for wrath for some reason.

Comment by RegaliaX

Can anyone please confirm if this bow really has an extra "oomph" in Timewalking BC dungeons? There are legendary items that add special effects to the wielder in Timewalking (like Shadowmourne), but Thori'dal's effect was to ignore ammunition, which no longer exists.

Is it worth taking to Timewalking dungeons for damage and effects? Or just to "show it off" (as if no one else has it already).

I've compared damage roughly with the information given in the character pane, and when I equip Thori'dal, I deal less damage with it than with a "downgraded" bow from WoD.

Comment by Dvaashie

For any achievment farmers wondering rogues can still get the achievment for the weapon, even though they can no longer use it. Just equip it and the achiev is yours.

Comment by 564043

I got this on my paladin :(

Comment by delindsay

I have a hard time believing that this bow has a 7% drop rate. I've farmed on my Hunter for this bow since TBC was current (granted it was the very, very end of TBC) and have never seen it drop, not even once.

Comment by 1544954

Strange thing with this is that i wasn't really going for it. I was just there doing the raid for the 10th time and it dropped. Then after a month i did the raid again and it dropped again! Is this normal? (Petty we cannot transmog legendary items)

Comment by variien98

Got it today on my first try with my boosted hunter. Nice beginning.
Edit: Dropped again on pet run.
Edit2: Dropped again.

Comment by Siyurka

Thori'dal the Stars' Fury, in 2016 w/ the new character models. And more sharper and crisp gear :p

Comment by 564043

I got this the first time I ran sunwell. Too bad i'm a ret pally :(

Comment by Cinderhella

Never dropping for me :(

Comment by dornk

Is this weapon permanent because its legendary and its rare so I might want it to be permanent

Comment by Guildmaster

Scales lower than 660 blue weapons in Timewalking BC. :(

Comment by naziar99

Droped for me last night on my first attempt. Maybe the legion pre-patch has effected its drop rate.

Comment by Richmond79

It says this is not transmoggable :(

Comment by Random33698

Blizz, you have got to give us a break and let us use this for xmog. We can use the capes.... PLEASE let us use this absolutely amazing bow. It is such beautiful artwork and too stunning to go to waste like this.

Comment by Skulm

Obtained on my first ever run through Sunwell on a boosted Hunter in Legion. After reaching level 108, I decided to run things for xmog Sunwell Plateau being the first area. As Marksman, I was aiming for the Golden Bow dropped from the twins. Saddened that the bow didn't drop, I proceeded to the end of the dungeon where I met Kil'jaedan, swiftly excecuted him and sat in amazement looking at what was looted before me. The . I don't know the drop rate so I don't know if to consider myself lucky or not.

Comment by Neurroo

First Run for Achiev, I got it .
This skin is absolutely amazing, but I don't transmog them .
It's a great pity, this skin is fantastic .

Comment by Divenity

This item has rather unfortunately been changed since Legion launched... Once upon a time it's auto shot had a very unique animation, a trail of starlight following the arrow, it was beautiful and amazing... And then Blizzard mucked it up, and accidentally (I assume) used it's animation ID for the Titanstrike gun and changed that ID's animation, now both of them use Titanstrike's lightning bolt bullet...

RIP, Thori'dal, RIP.

Comment by Skrapers

So, this isn't important, but I saw it on the wall of my hunters orderhall. Near the bar.

Comment by dcawdell

I was thinking about legendaries this morning. I have always said BOA was the worst idea Blizz ever had - taking away any interest in drops, while leveling.

If I had my choice though, I would scrap all regular Heirlooms and simply allow Legendaries to all scale, so we can keep the dang things, having put so much time & effort into getting them in the first place.

Comment by Kalasta

Woot this just droped for me! Been waiting so long for this beauty of a bow...too bad it can't be transmogged.....yet.

Comment by vikn

A similar bow can be found in the 1998 Disney tv-series Hercules. The Armageddon Bow will also conjure up a magical energy arrow when the string is drawn. There may be other examples of magical bows in popular culture that doesn't use arrows. Please elaborate on this if you have any idea were the concept may have originated.

Comment by Tyrux

MFW this damn bow drops on my second Paladin run >:(

Comment by Semavi

decided to level a hunter just to get this, game was kind enough to actually give me something that i want on first try, obtaining this bow also grants your guild A Legendary Collection" achievement

Comment by Eziair

For all the time's I have run Sunwell on my hunter, this bow decided to drop the first time I take in pala in!

oh, f off..... Raid reset day. Take my hunter in and nothing. Take my Pala in to get the missing pieces to Lightbringer Battlegear and the fecking bow drops again!

I'm going to stop taking my Pala to Sunwell.

Comment by Biotokz

Is this still lootable for ROGUEs? i solo farming it, but never dropped!

Comment by enistoja

As of Battle For Azeroth, you cannot use this weapon's appearance in a transmog.

Comment by Nokiya95

thought this would have some special effect for dps boost or smh so you can quip it during timewalking
guess there's no use for it since you can't even transmog it, other than dust collection

Comment by spyropurple

Would of been nice if this would work as a transmog achievement for hunters like they did with the warglaives of azzinoth for demon hunters.

Edit: Well,well,well...seems like we will,once 8.3 comes out c:

Comment by Rhacius

We will probably be able to finally transmog this in 8.3

Comment by Unlocky

This is absolutely incredible!
In patch 8.3 we can finally transmog legendaries and guess what I have stored in my bank. That's right. Thori'#$%^ing'dal!

I just spend almost 3 hours collecting this very exquisite looking High Elf Ranger set and I can't wait to prance around with it.

Comment by WinstonKaminski

Since the 15th anniversary version of Alterac Valley is scaled to level 60, don't forget to take Thori'dal on your hunter and let the old girl have some fresh air.

Comment by gelbreazu

i got this years ago on my paladin, will my hunter get credit? i don't have the achievement though

Comment by lunarwinds

With patch 8.3, Legendaries like these become transmoggable. It seems that the weapon transmog also affects the auto-shot graphic like it did during the Burning Crusade, shooting star-like shots.

Comment by SmellApple

I'm currently wearing the Eternal Traveler's set with the bow and it looks stunning. Eternal Star

Comment by Mavely

Me and my brother got this bow in the same hour. This thing drops alot

Comment by minka25

If you transmog the bow in 8.3 it still has the special autoshot animation!

Awesome :)

Comment by Neutralis

Finally after all of these years of having this awesome looking bow in my bank I can finally transmog my current weapon to look like this!

Comment by ZuljanOutland

I just got this on my Hunter, but the FoS is not showing up. Any Idea?

Comment by Colsheppard

Got this today on my 1st ever run of Sunwell on my void elf hunter but 5th ever run of Sunwell account-wise

Comment by NoChill

So a few years ago I ran this in my Pala and got the bow. I was annoyed, it was the only time I'd ever run sunwell and I got the bow on a toon I couldn't even equip it on.

Fast forward to today. The second time I've ever run sunwell. I decided to give it a shot on my hunter.

Bow dropped.

So far I'm 2 for 2 with bow drops. Can't complain. Now if only sha mount would drop...

Comment by Nefram

This bow in my opinion looks best with the LFR Eagletalon set.

Comment by Johannar

I finally got this bow on a rogue after about 4 months of relentlessly running sunwell :) it looks so amazing! my expectations were low but never 0, do not stop running sunwell for thori'dal, it WILL drop!

Comment by Iatrixian

Didn't even realize I didn't have this beauty until a guildmate posted about it.
Seems I was conflating it with the Golden Bow of Quel'thalas, which I DID have already.

So, I picked up the Sunwell grind again and just now got it after about four months of grinding across three different hunters (I would have been downright depressed had I strolled in there with my other max characters and it dropped on, say, my shadowpriest.)

Keep running it! It will drop!

Comment by Incandio

Dropped on my druid. Can't bring myself to vendor it. Got the Guild achievement for it.

Comment by Brinley01

Was the drop rate inceased pre-Shadowlands? I'm just notoriously unlucky on drops. I'm stunned this happened so quickly. Not a humble-brag, I'm just curious because if so, I'll go after some abandoned mount runs.

Also, just confirming here, I was able to transmog this appearance onto my current bow, after I picked it up.

Comment by Lyleash

As of Shadowlands it can be transmogged, and for those wondering it shoots magical arrows while mogged.

Comment by Darclite

Managed to get it today, ran once on my warrior main who didn't get it but got some other cool tmogs and then ran it on a new rogue alt at lvl45 - got it on its first go. Wish I had that luck on either of the bindings of the windseeker.

Comment by Kramerxm

Dropped today for me. I wasn't even expecting it.

Comment by hateweapon

Dropped today for me, on my Paladin....... Of course......

Comment by Zelethe

Dropped today for me on my first try. I am literally shocked.

Comment by Lepol

Dropped for me on my rogue 3 days ago 27.05.2021. My first legendary weapon I’m so happy.

Comment by kiraraneda

Just dropped for me on my hunter, third attempt. So crazy happy.

Now I have every single legendary.

Comment by UrPalCam

Do we have any confirmation on that 7% drop chance? I see a lot of folks posting it dropped in their first few runs, but we're about 50 kills now and nothing. I get how the numbers work, but that seems especially unlucky even for me.

Comment by Qrazie

This bow dropped today in 9.1.5, 2022-01-17. On my first run! The whole run take around 10-15 min! GL have fun :)

Comment by Blueyan

This just dropped for me today on my hunter. I've lost count of the runs I've done on so many toons to get this appearance. Good luck with yours.

Comment by Blueyan

This just dropped for me today on my hunter. I've lost count of the runs I've done on so many toons to get this appearance. Good luck with yours.

Comment by Acadianne

After years of farming it on multiple Hunters and Rogues, it dropped on my newest Hunter’s first run. I don’t know if it made any difference, but I unequipped her bow and fist fought Kil’jaeden through all of his phases. I killed all of the adds and went reeeally slow.

Edit: I just did the same thing on one of my other Hunters to get the Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas. It worked on the first try after again years of trying to farm it. Maybe it helps to unequip your bow and melee the bosses?

Comment by Xarizak

Yes guys i received it. I seriously received it. My emotions is on universe! 11x run.

Comment by TaibhseMacTire

I kinda feel bad that I got it on my Warrior for my second run of Sunwell.

Comment by Utena

Time to go back to farming Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury!

For the historical record, the aforementioned comment was posted on a 2 November 2019 Wowhead post about transmoggable legendaries in Shadowlands; Patch 8.2.5. Farmed it weekly since then, and finally got it on 22 July 2022. Good luck to anyone still going for it!

Comment by Kryplixx

After all these years, the Bow still looks great. The blue arrows really stand out.

For those of you still grinding.. Don't give up hope! It will be worth it in the end.

Comment by Nexiis

So I'm back on this site to exclaim that I just had it dropped on my very first run of Sunwell ever on my Hunter as well as the other bow that drops from Eredar twins. Again, it must be a skill issue for other folks who don't have it yet.
/shrug /flex

Comment by Zarilla

Just a few comments - This no longer has the green arrows. Whether it is the actual bow or in transmog, even if I try it now, it shows more of a sparkly white color when it shoots.

I do want to note that I did not receive this from the Sunwell raid. I received mine from the Emerald Dream. I was already a 120 (BofA) player (SL had just been announced). I was bored and working through old content. I decided to run the Emerald Dream raid; it was not easy, even at my high level. It took me some time to get through it. But the final box that dropped was the bow. I had not had a nice bow drop in a long time, so this was a massive transmog upgrade.

I've yet to have another bow that looks this good.

Comment by Timbella1982

I finally decided to run Sunwell on my hunter. Got the achievement for Sunwell Plateau since I had never ran it. Also got Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury! :D

1 run.

1 legendary.

Also strange... I just ran it on an alt hunter for collecting the armor set, and it dropped again.. so 2 runs 2 legendaries.. wth?

Comment by MagicalLeaf

Great bow, a bit upset however that there isn't an actual 'Celestial Arrow' just the fletching of the arrow.

Comment by DonVito69

Too many runs to count and several breaks in between later, it finally dropped this week for me. Ran weekly on 4 characters who can all use bow (2 warriors, 1 hunter and 1 rogue). I've taken months breaks between expansions before going back hard again grinding for this bow. It finally dropped on my hunter a few hours after realm reset for the week. If I had to guess, I'd say I'm 200-300 full clears since it drops from Kil'Jaeden.

Thank #$%^ I never have to return to Sunwell Plateau again.

Comment by francoisjabbour

Was going after the staff and got this on my second run of SWP. Tragically will still have to go back for the staff.

Comment by 3andy

In the War Within prepatch you learn the appearance even if you have it on class that cannot equip it, had it on my DK in bank.
Unfortunately the Feat of Strength is still unobtainable if you cannot equip it.