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Kommentar von Selstar

fokussiere dich auf den nebel, nicht die explosionen.

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Kommentar von scottiegazelle

You don't have to talk to anyone to start this. There is no buff/debuff to indicate the time. I rant he stopwatch so I could see if I exceeded the 90 seconds, because there is no indication you are in the correct ring. Just a whole lot of patches of fire on the ground to avoid.

You'd think this would be connected to a "ready to raid" achieve. I have a guildee who probably will struggle with this one; we've taken to using his name as a verb that means "dies to avoidable aoe." But anyway.

Kommentar von jprich

A visible timer starts as soon as you go in.

Kommentar von eresin

So much easier than the blades one, simply run away from black dots on the ground, but stay within the borders, I'd recommend staying near the middle so that if you do get hit you're not going to get knocked out and reset the timer.

Kommentar von 940955

I just ran around for a bit.

No really, just run around. Avoiding black patches is optional. Most of the time they disappear as you get to them.

Getting hit knocks you back and damages you slightly. Just keep running.

Kommentar von Madtoady

I've made a quick video to so show you guys an easy way to complete this quest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pLPdxaT5Qs

Kommentar von joebowen

Scroll out your view. Look down from overhead and use mouse with both buttons clicked to walk (NOT the keyboard) This gives you a clearer perspective and better control

Worst case scenario for me, when doing it like this, is drop to 91% health. But I was talking to my wife, that time, and a little distracted. lol.

Trust me, this is the simplest way to turn a fairly difficult quest into no big deal.

Kommentar von Henderman

For shamans, use Ghost Wolf

Kommentar von MiffOhMan

The flame-throwing pandas deals damage to themselves also, kill them for being annoying! Oo(##RESPBREAK##)12##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Kommentar von thebdc

Don't bother running around like crazy. Just stand still, and move two yards out of the black spot once it shows up under you.

Kommentar von mihalidis

This quest, together with Überlebensring: Klingen is part of the achievement Allzeit schlachtzugsbereit III.

~~It is not mentioned as tab here in wowhead.~~
edit: added as tab by wowhead.

Kommentar von Interest

Druids can use Flight Form for this quest.

Kommentar von 672427

Überlebensring: Flammen & Überlebensring: Klingen are parts of Allzeit schlachtzugsbereit III..

as a Jäger use or and run around, just dont Move on black Rings..

did it with first try..

(If fail achievement u can always abandon quest and take it again)

Kommentar von Kilroy7456

gotta hand it to blizzard, they really outdid themselves in making a quest that's more boring than killing half a dozen generic mobs with half a million health.

Kommentar von rzzr

Remember that if you are going for the achievement and you fail you have to abandon the quest and start again. It is not enough just to run out and re-set the timer.

Kommentar von tzakanel

I found out that making small steps forward, just enough to avoid the blast, works best.
And they seem to aim at you, so the less people are doing this the more easy it becomes.

Kommentar von 533861

Just did this quest and did the achievement part of it, and this is what I found to be the easiest way. Instead of running around in the middle where most of the fireworks are going off, run around on the outside edges of the area, just inside the stones.

Most of the fireworks will go off in the middle of the survival ring, making it the only thing you have to do is just run in circles. The few times a firework did go off in front of me, it was easy to just run inside for a second before resuming my circular course around the ring.

Kommentar von Joyouslydead

If you just run around the outer edge of the circle (with an occasional sidestep) the hardest part of this quest is avoiding the morons running around like chickens with their heads cut off. I had to abandon this quest 5 times to get credit for the achievement because of some huntard that kept running into me & getting me blasted. Once he was gone it was no problem.

Good luck & hope this helps

Kommentar von Endinglife

I have noticed that it will not say 'failed' if you're tracking this. I did not take any damage upon entering the ring, during the 90 seconds, and upon exiting and was still not awarded the achievement. This is the third time this has happened. Is this a bug by chance?

Kommentar von 979234

This must be bugged. Yesterday I did this quest, after I abandoned (did take damage that time). But I redid a few minutes later without any damage at all taken from accept quest till I turned in, no reward.

Today, I did this quest again, flawless from accept to turn-in...no completition...

What am I doing wrong? Worgen warrior female. Did not use anything to boost speed or Leap, nothing...just run.

Kommentar von Cordana

Just strafe to the left or right on the inside of the trainers and stone cones in a circle. Note you'll get the meta of the achievement marked after you turn the quest in.

Kommentar von Vlad

Easiest way to do it, and the dizziest, is like this - was never hit.

Probably works for regular mounts too, so give it try!

For the record, I have the highest flying skill so if you don't and you get hit, then speed matters.

Kommentar von 440396

Rogues, should you have problems staying alive (it can get tricky if the black spots do not show as was the case for me), just remember to Feint !

Kommentar von Jayrai

Using spells such as Divine Shield and Ice Block will protect you from damage of course, but you will still be pushed around (and, quite possibly, out of the arena thus failing this daily).

Kommentar von Trickenzie

I tried this many times using the techniques cited but had absolutely no luck. Eventually, I discovered that running, not hell-for-leather but fairly fast, around the inside of the bollards was the easiest method for me. I was right on the edge of the ring actually touching the bollards a lot of the time, moving forward at a fair pace, and generally didn't have to avoid much at all - I had to run inside once to avoid a bomb but that was it.

I hope this helps some of you who, like myself, had trouble further inside the ring.

Kommentar von 1050905

The most important thing about this quest is to keep in mind that the number of fireworks going off is relative to the number of people in the ring. I'm not sure if there's a cap to the number of players per number of fireworks, but getting this portion of Allzeit schlachtzugsbereit III on this quest is nigh impossible if there are more than a couple of people running around.

The thing that worked best for me was to run around the outside of the ring and stop to avoid or sidestep any fireworks that are in front of you. Being near the side of the ring halves the area where fireworks can hit you, making this quest easy.

Kommentar von TaxMan

Completed this quest as part of the achievement Allzeit schlachtzugsbereit III, 09/01/2013 on realm Jubei'Thos.

Can confirm that if you do take damage whilst completing the Überlebensring: Flammen quest you can simply abandon the quest and pick it up again.

Easiest method was to attempt this at low traffic times, for me this was just before midnight server time, as the more people attempting this quest the more fireworks are being thrown in the circle.

I simply stuck to the very outer edge of the circle and maintained a constant run and completed it on my second attempt. The first attempt I made it about 60 seconds before I had an unlucky firework pop in front of me and didn't have a chance to move in time. Other than that it was a very simple to complete without taking any damage. I completed this quest as a tauren warrior and did not have to use any special movement abilities or run speed potions etc.

This information is also displayed under the comments section for the acheivement Allzeit schlachtzugsbereit III

Kommentar von toadofsteel

Hey guys, Protip: DON'T STAND IN THE FIRE

Kommentar von 964140

Completed this first time as level 90 Hunter.Just keep moving when you see a black spot under you.

Kommentar von Iamnotsane

Shadow Issue.

If your like me and could not see the shadows on the floor it could be because of your graphics settings I went into Systems then to Graphics seems my problem was I did not have Projected Textures enabled so this could be your reason hope this helps. :)

Kommentar von 355167

The Shadow-Pan trainers are effected by the fireworks as well, run around the outside stopping by each to have them thrown back.

While it does not reduce the number of fireworks being thrown, it is fun to vent your frustrations out on them.

Kommentar von LuckyGhoul

Did this flawlessly today on a hunter.

My pet was less than flawless.

I did not get credit for the achievement.

Will try without my pet out next time.

Kommentar von Azaram

As with far too many things lately, the graphic on the ground is much smaller than the damage radius. There is an element of randomness to it, but they do aim specifically at you, as well. I got bounced out of the ring and then bombed again while outside with the timer disabled. It blew one of the pandas INTO the ring. Running around the edge does seem to help, unless the one you're near is the one chosen to aim at you, so a short throw blows up too quickly to dodge.

Finally, on my 8th try, did it... and didn't get the achievement. So apparently you can take damage without being bounced.

Kommentar von 1117679

Just hit auto-run and steer away from the black shadows (where the flame will appear next.)

Kommentar von GoRozZo

Flame is easier than Überlebensring: Klingen. Its enough just to run forward and use some strafes sometimes.
If you have any problems - watch this video, it helps you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ue4CzoYvwQ

Kommentar von 1135514

Hello guys,
I have been trying to get the Flames part today. I finally succeeded so I want to write you an important note. If you have not been hit during test, and 1/1 finished shows up, go to qgiver and complete. Only after that the green check in your achievement will show. Maybe you know, just for the record :)

Kommentar von Reddervish

I accepted this quest today. I've done several of these dailies before. No flames, npcs. or anything appears at the survival ring. ditto the Battle Ring quest up the hill.

followup: I also had the quest "The Mogu's Message" in my quest log. This starts a 4 quest string with The Might of Three and The Final Power. Apparently most npc's in the Vale are gone (phased out) during this quest string. I just came back to Setting Sun Garrison and things look more normal.

Kommentar von pellmell

If you're wondering why the quest timer isn't showing up when you are in the circle, try dismounting. :)

Kommentar von FrostWolf219

The updated version of this quest is a tad harder than the pre 5.4 one (and I have now done both). Before 5.4 you had a black circle that told you where to avoid. Now you have a small smoke ring that expands when hit and sometimes you have little time to leave. As usual, just stay on your toes and if you are doing this quest for "Ready for Raiding III" drop the quest and pick it up again if you get hit.

Also, I can only speak to this instance today but the NPC that offers this quest, Yumi Goldenpaw, is now located at the bottom of the stairs that lead from the survival ring to the battle ring. Also, again for this instance today, there was no quest chain to do before the Setting Sun Garrison quests. Just go there and do the quest.

Kommentar von 1146613

You will know where each firework lands because a grey smoke ring will start to form and spread out a little before it explodes. So, try to run in between and away from the smoke rings. I found this to be my best strategy. You can also see where each firework lands before it turns into the smoke because it's a little shiny ball. However, when you get hit and thrown those are not as noticeable, so I pay attention mainly to the smoke. Good luck!

Kommentar von SHJordan

I found my improved sollution for getting this part for the achievment for the current patch better:

Run Through the outer circle, almost getting out.
The diffrence is, you now run, stop in front of the pandaren shootting the firework for a brief sec.
When you see the smoke coming out of your feet continue doing the circle.
Remember to have combat log on with "what happened to me" tab on
if by any change you see any damage there, abandon quest and get it again for a next try.
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PROFIT!

Kommentar von amzraptor

If you are a warlock, Brennender Ansturm greatly helps!

Kommentar von Azuraa

A tip if you are going for the achievement -

I noticed quite quickly that it's not actually the fireworks that hurt you, but the SMOKE rings. You cannot be standing inside the smoke ring as it forms, but you can run right through the firework once it is launched and will take no damage. So just avoid the forming smoke rings altogether - as from my experience it won't matter how fast you move out of them (a bit silly considering it's 'Survival Ring: FLAME' but I guess it's all part of the learning process toward getting this achievement).

As for my method -

* I angled my camera down at the ground and maintained a constant run, using my mouse to turn.

* I kept mainly to the edge of the ring, but a few times I veered into the centre or doubled back as there were too many smoke rings forming toward the edge. (running in an erratic pattern is not necessarily a bad thing)

* A couple of times I did pause for a second to allow a smoke ring to form in front of me before running through the firework - but just be careful of your surroundings if you do this.

* I didn't use any movement increasing spells.

Also, remember that once the 60 seconds is up you still need to get the hell out without taking any damage otherwise the achievement will fail. So don't lose your focus!

Good luck =)

Kommentar von Sarlis

Watch this video, repeat - get a half of achievement Allzeit schlachtzugsbereit III

Kommentar von Archaix

I'm never gonna catch my breath!

Kommentar von Dioselfo

I think its op now in patch 6.0.2

Kommentar von 1385115

I have to smile at the comments about the difficulty of this quest. Due to the pre-WoD patch that went down on 10/14/14, there are glitches abound. Imagine going to do your Survival Ring daily, and finding Survival Ring: Flame and Survival Ring: Blades combined. After dying at least 8 times, I abandoned the quest and submitted a ticket to Blizz along with a glitch August Celestial quest, Trial of Xuen @ the White Temple, where my two opponents for the quest decided to take some time off and not show up. I chalk it up to WoD preparations and the MoP quests will be repaired in time.

Kommentar von insaineelf

HOW TO:

I didn't see any real strategy behind any comment here and this worked 3 time without fail.

stay on the perimeter of the ring and run in a circle, (but military style "I'm up he sees me I'm down he doesn't") run 5 steps in the circle stop for a moment and then run again then stop and run 5 step and stop (stop just long for .75 of a second) the computer is anticipating you movements so stopping will make the monks throw a flame at your current location.

very important point is you have to be on the VERY edge on the circle monk dont throw flames at each other unless you are standing next to one. So your job is to be as close to the outer rim as possible.

Hope this helps.

Kommentar von 15885

This worked for me today, on like my third attempt. I simply ran counterclockwise around the circle, just inside each stone pillar on the perimeter of the field, brushing each with my right shoulder as I passed by. I never stopped, and I just ran from pillar to pillar for 60 secs. Good luck!

Kommentar von Miaque

Okay. So it's a case of "How the heck do I work out if I've been taking damage?". I'm running around, but there's nothing to show that I've taken damage, yet I know their attacks are bouncing off.... Then I realise I'm a ret pally and I've got my Greater Blessing of Kings active (*sigh*). Turn that off, make sure I've got nothing on with absorbs (like Prydaz), then I go to my Combat Log window and "What happened to me?" tab... ah... now I'm receiving notifications that "Shado-Pan Trainer explosions hit me". Awesome... Head back into the ring, couple more tries using the run, pause, run, pause, zig left, zig right method, and low-and-behold... timer completes and no damage taken... high-tail it out... head to quest giver... check... yep still no damage... hand in quest.. BOOM! ACHIEVE! YAY! *sigh*.

The hardest part of the experience was working out how to tell whether I'd taken damage... don't have absorbs on, and check your "What happened to me?" !

Kommentar von Maravec

I tried this today, running around the outer ring near the pillars in the way Chilcoot mentioned. I finished the time limit, and got the gold text saying I'd finished, but then I got hit by a firework. When I turned in the quest, I did not get the achievement. Be considerate of any damage you might take, even after you're told you've finished the quest requirements. In retrospect, it seems a no-brainer, and I should have abandoned the quest after that firework hit me.

Kommentar von Zinnjo

Tip for the druids out there. If you play a druid you can use Abillity its 100% mount speed but it does not remove the Quest Tracking Bar.
I just completed the Flames quests and got the achviment this way. Do not the The Travel form this ability removed the Quest Tracking bar.

Kommentar von FireBurnXD

Hey if you doing this quest recently because of remix you can do what i did: put a turnip punching bag or any toy thats a target and dps it during the time so you use leech to heal and if you have the tinker gem with 10 %leech you can do that too making it easier.

Kommentar von kdvonclarke2

one very important thing to know, is don't be mounted.

Kommentar von SteveRocks

As of today 8/7/24, this quest is bugged in MoP Remix. The quest meter resets intermittently/does not progress regardless if the player takes damage or not. Abandoning/re-taking quest or resetting UI does not fix.

Kommentar von nephdog

As mentioned by others previously, this quest is currently bugged where progress gained resets continually. I was able to find a work around, after accepting the quest, I flew out of the area and then back in and was able to complete the quest as well as the part it contributes to the Ready for Raiding III achievement. I think there must be an issues with it properly sharding after accepting the quest. Hopefully they will fix this soon but maybe you can have success with this workaround if you don't want to wait for them to fix it.

Kommentar von eas1

Just got this today so not bugged.

Quest Giver: Yumi Goldtatze. The ring is right next door.

I used the teqnique mentioning previously of running counter-clockwise, really get as close to the pillars as possible. When timed right you get the full 60sec uninterrupted. If you're hit abandon quest/start again. Took me 3 tries, easy.

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Überlebensring: Flammen

Betretet den Überlebensring und überlebt 60 Sekunden lang, ohne hinausgestoßen zu werden.

	Übersteht 60 Sekunden lang den Überlebensring (1)

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Dies ist eine der Herausforderungen, die ich meinen Kriegern stelle, damit sie stark und flink auf den Beinen bleiben. Mal sehen, wie Ihr Euch haltet.

Überlebt 60 Sekunden im Ring, ohne hinausgestoßen zu werden. Macht Euch auf alles gefasst!

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	Truhe mit ewigen Schätzen		Geringes Amulett des Glücks

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Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

300 Ruf mit der Fraktion Goldener Lotus

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(30240))

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Mists of Pandaria - Faction Dailies Wowhead's Guide to the Golden Lotus and 5.4 Changes

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