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评论来自 Arkets

instead of reducing the cooldown how about double the cooldown and the duration so a reset proc is meaning full - also double dmg

or put the proc on cobra/multishot with a higher chance so we can control the proc

评论来自 armrule

At 50% haste, this skill CD is at 7.98sec. With a slightly higher haste (buff duration is 8sec), it's possible to get 3 frenzy stacks active at all time without relying on 荒野呼唤 proc.

评论来自 dillybar

After a lot of experience using 倒刺射击 in a variety of situations, with comparisons to 践踏, you only really want to use 倒刺射击 on single target boss fights in raids. 践踏 is the far better choice for Dungeons, especially Mythic+, and for world quests/PVE. The biggest unfortunate aspect in selecting this talent is that, if you are killing multiple targets (trash for instance) and one dies, and Dire Frenzy is your next ability in your rotation, it WILL NOT cast until you use a different command on the target first.

This advice is honestly best for situations where you can't change your talents out (already in an instance). You can bind a pet attack macro to your Dire Frenzy to begin the attack. If you are already attacking and you hit 倒刺射击, the macro just casts the spell , but if you are initiating an attack, it will allow your Dire Frenzy to immediately cast, instead of doing nothing due to non-specific targeting by Dire Frenzy itself. Still though, using 倒刺射击 instead of 践踏 in situations with multiple targets significantly lowers your overall AOE dps.

评论来自 m4dp4rrot

For BfA, they replaced Dire Frenzy with Barbed Shot, for all those confused by the comments here.

评论来自 jackhammerEUFW

I need more haste... a lot of it...

评论来自 Sindail

Anyone have a working WA string for this ability? The CURRENT link here on wowhead for the weakaura doesn't work right. Can have up to 3 stacks, but the icon vanishes if you use a second+ barbed shot.

评论来自 Lichiana

What is the stacking mechanic of Barbed Shot? Is it better to cast your second BS just before the first one expires? Or is it better to get the stacks on as soon as it comes off cooldown? Is it worth keeping it on cooldown a few seconds if Bestial Wrath will be up soon?

评论来自 Pallipwns

Using barbed shot while not standing right on top of my target will cause my pet to attack even if it is on passive. If the pet is standing on top of it's target when I use barbed shot, it wont attack on passive.

评论来自 trinketeer

30% attack speed amounts to either one or a couple more Pet attacks in the 8 seconds, per frenzy, and it doesnt really serve us to unload them all without some good agility/mastery procs to make use of the pet melee attacks we will gain
1 Overwhelming power = about 1-2 more atk per 10-15 second window , frenzy or not .

1 more second of frenzy (azerite trait) increases the amount of time that frenzies can overlap, and this can compensate for haste if you think pets auto attack (incl.with Companion!) is not benefiting from big attack power procs that you want them to benefit from, but disfavors the use of a 'reserve barbed shot' unless their duration will exceed a reserved 9 sec frenzy! , however, im not so sure this is the best choice if you are able to have 2-3 frenzy active when you are strongest (dance of death / cooldowns / trinket procs)
dance of death (agility worth 15-45% stronger base attacks; strong synergy with wrath/aspect!) proc tends to increase *after* the first barbed shot fired, and your pet (cleave/melee) will be able to carry our high crit %, and our fluctuating attack power to pump the DPS , provided the pet is attacking fastest when the agility (mastery too!) peaks the highest!

stacking /not stacking your barbs is basically the only control the hunter has to ride the RNG waves ! your pet attack do not increase the likelihood of procs so frenzies may be mismanaged if drained right away.
pay attention to procs that affect Agi,Haste,Crit and spend Barbs to make the most use of them!

the amount of beast cleave targets is also a decider and again, does not change the likelihood of procs.. for example, island expeditions - use your MD&Beam, then ms/cleave, hold maybe one frenzy for a good proc but use it liberally since packs tend to last less than 40- seconds and you want to end combat with no spare barbed shots left or wasted frenzy time

评论来自 yoshif4n

For BFA:

I'm not quite sure why no guide mention this, but the BLEED (aka, DOT on target) effect DOES NOT stack, nor refresh in a contagion manner (like Lock for example).

So any time you cast barbed shot, try to do so in a new target. Especially at high crit ratings (where is quite common to overcap) dont just spam barbed on the same mob hoping that all damage will stack, because it seems like it doesn't.

Every time you refresh barbed shot in a target, whenever there are any more targets availables, you are losing between 20 to 80% of the damage (less because every cast comes with a Stomp and BW CD reduction, but Barbed shoot's bleed damage is still a considerable damage source).

So in single target, just refresh it (don't overcap). But any time there is cleave or AoE situation, try to spread the bleed among many targets.

(Here I'm hoping to see some confirmation from more experienced people to see if this is true or not, because I'm quite puzzled that no written article mentions it)

NOTE:

This doesn't change the normal rotation you must do with barbed. Just that you should cast barbed in aditional targets instead of the same one if possible

评论来自 Phasha

If you want to track the 狂乱 buff (that this spell gives to your pet) with WeakAura or TellMeWhen, use Spell ID 272790. And set the watched unit to be your "pet".

评论来自 Mightylink

This is one of the most interesting abilities I've seen in the game, instead of just spamming it you need to time it properly in order to maintain 3 stacks. It feels really satisfying to see my pet with 90% attack speed.

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倒刺射击

倒刺射击

天赋

40 码范围

瞬发	18秒充能

2 充能

射出箭矢撕裂敌人，使其流血，在12秒内造成[([57.7% of Attack Power]) * 5]点伤害。如果再次施放倒刺射击，所有剩余伤害都会叠加到新的倒刺射击效果上。

在8秒内生成(5 * 8 / 2)点集中值。

魔法增益

倒刺射击	流血

每2秒遭受([57.7% of Attack Power])点伤害。
持续12秒

法术细节

持续时间

12秒

类型

物理

机制

流血

驱散类型

n/a

GCD目录

普通

成本

无

范围

40码 (较远)

施法时间

瞬发

冷却

n/a

GCD

1.5秒

效果 #1

Apply Aura：Periodic Damage
间距：2秒 (AP mod:0.577)
PVP 倍率：1.2

效果 #2

Dummy
价值：5
PVP 倍率：1
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[Is Ability]
变形时无法使用
[Initiates Combat (Enabled Auto-Attack)]
光环出现时开始计时
[Do Not Auto Select Target with Initiates Combat]
[Always Cast Log]
[Periodic Can Crit]
[Aura Points On Client]
[Rolling Periodic]
[Allow Class Ability Procs]
[Nameplate Personal Buffs/Debuffs]

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