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Comment by Streammz

It may just be me, but the voice line of this NPC sounds like the same voice actor as Ana from Overwatch.

Comment by SirZooro

Ve'nari may be a reference to Lord Vetinari from Terry Pratchett's Discworld books. Vetinari is the ruler of the city of Ankh-Morpork. In young age he joined Assassins' Guild, where he got an excellent academic education. Assasins often work in secret, so name of Ve'nari faction - Purveyor of Cyphers - may be reference to this.

Comment by archey01

This is what Ana was too busy doing to help us capture the point.

Comment by sarahhh

Voiced by Aysha Selim - who also voiced Ana Amari in Overwatch.

Edit:

Shohreh Aghdashloo confirming she did NOT voice Ve'nari: https://twitter.com/SAghdashloo/status/1331694001481801731 (Ty Locusta)

Aysha Selim's IMDB confirming she DID voice Ve'nari: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8494809/ (Ty Tamazon)

Aysha Selim confirming on Instagram that she is the voice actress for Ve'nari: https://www.instagram.com/p/CIB6h-2hqzz/
(Ty Nayade)

Comment by PinkWolf

Loved her voice acting! Odd that she says she's trapped there but doesn't want to come with you when you escape the maw...

Comment by Pekins

Her voice acting sounds a lot like Shohreh Aghdashloo from the TV show The Expanse.

Comment by HandsomeJon

Does anyone else hear a female Tommy Wiseau?

Comment by Vedney

It's going to take a while to stop seeing her as Ana.

Comment by Reignac

Best new character in the expansion by far. Her voice is carrying a lot of it.

Comment by becky99888

It appears that the torghast upgrades are account bound as i can't see the torghast upgrades i brought on my main(Vessel of Unfortunate Spirits and Bangle of Seniority) on ve'nari on my main alt today.

Comment by Volleynova

I won't lie, I don't like her voice. Takes me out of the game, because it sounds so similar to Tali's race in Mass Effect.

Comment by Norainjs

Who the hell is Ve'nari? I don't know any Ve'nari. If I did I would certainly tell you all about them, but I don't.

Comment by Aisenfaire

Based on comparison between my characters' purchases from her:

Permanent Torghast upgrades are account-wide.
Permanent Maw upgrades are character-specific.

Possibility Matrix

Permanent Torghast Upgrades - Account-Wide	Permanent Maw Upgrades - Character-Specific
Vessel of Unfortunate Spirits	Encased Riftwalker Essence
Extradimensional Pockets	Animated Levitating Chain
Bangle of Seniority	Animaflow Stabilizer
Rank Insignia: Acquisitionist	Sigil of the Unseen
Loupe of Unusual Charm	Soul-Stabilizing Talisman
Ritual Prism of Fortune

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Also, for the curious:

Once you get better rep with her (I'm not actually sure which rep level because I didn't check for a while), her answer changes for the gossip option when you talk to her./

Q: What happened to the other brokers who came into the Maw with you?

A: None of the others survived. Only me.

The Maw, as you are well aware, is a dangerous place. And while traveling in a large group may provide the illusion of security, in reality it just makes you a more tempting target.

We learned that the hard way. Our numbers were whittled away until there were few enough of us left to hide ourselves. That slowed the hunt.. but did not stop it.

When I alone remained, I accepted the truth of my situation. Solitude offered the best chance of survival.

At least until you arrived.

Comment by airtoast

Reputation Grinding with Ve'Nari:

Weekly quests are not as important, like doing the jailer event. Save that for after all of these other priorities are done on a given day, and then if you have the capacity, go for it.
IMPORTANT NOTE: While doing this, don't kill ANYTHING you don't have to. If you can escape, run away, go invisible, polymorph / hex... cc away. The more things you kill, the higher your jailer tier will go. You want to avoid this going up too fast too soon. Get this stuff done first. Killing regular monsters (non rares) or monsters unassociated with quests is going to hold back your rep gains.
Get the daily quests and do them first.
Next make sure you do any progression quests.
If you haven't done the weekly quests, now do them.
Now it's time to check in with Ve'nari. Look at your stygia, and your rep. If you are sitting on a huge pile of stygia, don't do that. Stygia is fairly easy to get compared to reputation. Reputation is your most
important currency right now. If you have a few hundred, ok fine save it and move on to the next priority. But if you have over 800 or so, spend it if you aren't confident you will survive the next step.
Next is rare farming. One of the best ways to do this is to look in the group finder. However, when you do this, be in Oribos. If you join a raid group for instance while in the Maw, you may be phased out of that group.
Trust me. You don't want to run all the way to the Tremeculum, only to find you are phased differently than your group. So join a group while in oribos, and THEN go to the maw and join up with them.
Rare farm as much as you can.
So while you are rare farming, you will get closer and closer to that ever so lovely maxed out jailer tier. When you get there, you will start stacking a debuff that makes it impossible for you to heal at all. This is NOT game over. But it IS the critical time at which you should decide whether reputation, or stygia is more important to you. If you die at this point, unless you are with a group that is watching your back... you will probably permanently lose that 20% stygia.

A note on rare farming:

Again: Don't arbitrarily kill things. Run away. Focus on rares. Rares are the little skulls you see on your minimap.
The best thing you can do to maximize your efforts and rewards is to be in a group with people who communicate well and don't leave you behind. You may need to settle for a large raid group, but try to get people on discord, or go with friends.
Optimally, you would make 1-3 groups of 5 people, and communicate on discord so that the individual groups can all do the quests, but all still face roll their way through the entire zone smashing rares into pudding on the ground with minimal effort.
There are a number of stars on the map. Look for those. These are summonable encounters, and provide 100 rep for these kills. These make the jailer angry though.
Once you've gotten close enough to maximum jailer hate, make a decision about your stygia stores. If you are rollin in stygia, but close to capping a rep level... maybe call it a day. If you are rolling in it but you have 3 more days of rep to grind... spend it, or just don't worry about it. If you approach your farming like this, you will see that getting stygia is a cake walk.
Not to beat a dead horse (no horses were harmed in the making of this post) but don't focus on stygia. Focus on reputation. Reputation is the only thing that will allow you to open up the items you need in order to actually spend stygia. Prioritize Rep. Prioritize Rep. Prioritize Rep.

Comment by Bananasaur

Just wanted to add my personal opinon. Ve'nari's voice is absolutely gorgeous! I love it. Aysha Selim does one hell of a good job.

Comment by wowheadsk

It's quite hilarious the sigil she sells to stamp your body is sold for 666 stygia. They no longer are even trying to hide it.

Comment by DocBronner

The first rule of Ve'nari's refuge is...you never talk about Ve'Nari's refuge.

Comment by Xlsfd

From what can be gleaned off the scarce infos, it seems likely she committed some sort of transgression against Cartel Ve and seeks to escape punishment for it.

Comment by BerettaNEWarrior

So I think Ve'nari's the Nathanos Blightcaller of Shadowlands. She's the smirking smartass who puts players in their place, who is in fact more important that you and will always be more important than you and who's help is 100% necessary to rescuing your "friends" so bend the &*!@ing knee and know your role, Maw Walker. She's the Mary-Sue dropped in our path because somebody had a great idea about creatively writing an minor character that bloated into the "must appease" faction of this phase of SL.

I /spit on Ve'nari. Can't wait to be done with her.

Comment by trest

Ve'nari’s “reputations” (aka judgement, worthiness, or trust) have different names than normal faction reputations.
There are 6 stages, with increasing amounts of reputation required to progress to the next stage:

Rank	Rep to next rank
Dubious	1000
Apprehensive	6000
Tentative	7000
Ambivalent	7000
Cordial	21000
Appreciative	(done)

See Neryssa’s Ve'nari Reputation Guide on Wowhead for full details.

Comment by Prebez

Veneria. She's Biggus Dic*u's second wife. After Incontinentia.

Comment by Rudy199

So for my alt I need 42k reputation just to socket my item? This is so terrible.

Comment by Aurleis1

Patch 9.0.5 added Broker Traversal Enhancer to the list of permanent (account-wide) Torghast upgrades for a cost of 875 Stygia and requiring a Tentative reputation.

Comment by Lisq33

The NPC reminds me of Stratos, a god of air from video game Sacrifice, especially when she's shaking her "floating" head. And the "stygia" we collect is a name for Charnel's (god of death) realm in Sacrifice as well.

Comment by Lindseynk

How do I get the head for her to turn in to get the quest to go into toughest to find someone could someone please help me cause my other toons got the But one of my toons don't have the quest thanks

Comment by weltallica

Imagine gatekeeping a world boss behind a rep grind.

Comment by Clawmarks

The Ve'nari with this NPC ID may now appear to some players as translucent and magenta in color. Her dialog indicates that, with the Jailer's defeat, she feels it is finally worth the risk of Cartel Ve's notice to venture to Zereth Mortis.

In Zereth Mortis, players may find:

a charred broker corpse at the Creation Catalyst marked as belonging to Ve'nari. Players wearing Engineering goggles will receive additional text indicating that there are "inconsistencies" with what is, at first glance, a horrible accident.

Players may receive mail from Ve'nari with a parting gift, explaining her current whereabouts.

It may be worth noting that while mounted on the Ensorcelled Everwyrm, the Guiding Orb on the mount's back, which summons Xolartios, disappears when close to Ve'nari in her refuge in the Maw. I was wondering if there was anyway to get the NPCs to interact...

Comment by Pyreiella

Ve'nari if you repeatedly click on her:

"Just because I have infinite time, does not mean I have infinite patience."
"You know, not all of my previous associates met their end at the Jailer's hands."
"Long have I observed the Mawsworn torture their victims. Perhaps you want a demonstration."

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I have been curious about Ve'nari since we met her and recent developments with her character have me more curious! I hope this means we'll see her around Azeroth and maybe in the Caverns of Time :D

Comment by gunshi

Ve'nari: "Did you come here to trade? Or to waste your breath."
me: "I came here listen to your voice."

Comment by Orielnight

YO has Ve'nari always been dead next to the creation catalyst console in ZM? Or am I just now realizing it?

Comment by wrathzz2016

If you have an alt which has never done any Shadowlands content and has never been there before Threads of Fate was removed, there are a few things you need to do in order to unlock Ve'nari's reputation and vendor:

Pick up quest from Mograine in Orgrimmar/Stormwind (in Valley of Strength for Horde, Stairs leading to Stormwind Keep for Alliance). Skip the campaign when prompted. This will take you directly to Oribos.
Accept first quest in Oribos, which will lead you into the city.
Speak to the quest turn-in NPC, Overseer Kah-Delen, to skip the campaign.
Turn around and speak to Tal-Inara to select a Covenant. You can also speak to Tal-Inara to unlock Zereth Mortis as well. After selecting, pick up the next quest from Tal-Inara.
Follow a few quests for your Covenant (such as going to your Sanctum, pledging allegiance, selecting your soulbind, and implementing a conduit). Select campaign skips when prompted.
The final quest of this chain will tell you to go back to Oribos to speak to Bolvar Fordragon. Speak to him and once again select to skip the campaign. This officially unlocks Ve'nari and being able to mount in the maw.

This is particularly important so you can purchase the Animaflow Stabilizer in order activate the flight path to Sanctum of Domination if you're farming it for mounts/transmog. If you're needing to transfer Stygia to purchase it, go outside and kill 1 or 2 mobs to get a few so it will pop up in your currency tab in order for you to transfer from another toon.
*Note: this does all assume you've completed the entirety of the Shadowlands campaign on at least one character.

Comment by VadeX

If you have an alt army that's able to do Shadowlands content, you can farm the rep fairly quickly.

From spawning in Stormwind on an alt that's never touched Shadowlands, I've been getting 3000-3250 rep in a half hour. Since this is a warband rep, you can rinse and repeat the dailies and rare kills on alts that haven't done them.

Just follow a guide to skip the campaign all the way to Korthia, then before going to the Maw talk to the cartel person that follows asking about Ve'nari. That quest gives rep too. Follow what quests Ve'nari gives you, killing rares along the way to end up with the 800 Stygia by the time you return (taking into account Stygia you'll get from quest rewards). Cash in your quests and the 800 Stygia for the 1500 rep and youre lookin at 2.5k to 3.5k rep altogether.
Edit: Add in a trip to Korthia at the end to kill Ve'rayn. His head turns in to Ve'nari for 2k more rep, massive! /way Korthia 61 57

Done with that alt, on to the next

Edit: Realized after writing that this was done during Shadowlands Timewalking with the 50% rep bonus, so it may not be as quick for you but is still the quickest way I could figure out.

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Ve'nari <Purveyor of Cyphers>

This NPC can be found in The Maw .

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Ve'nari yells: Be careful! It's trying to draw you in!
Ve'nari yells: It's calling more in!
Ve'nari yells: Look out! Something is coming up!
Ve'nari says: A very profitable effort, indeed.
Ve'nari says: Ah! I am receiving. The signal is very poor. Find a new location to relay.
Ve'nari says: Ah, Maw Walker. I was wondering when you would show up.
Ve'nari says: Although I am certain there's nothing to be concerned about there...
Ve'nari says: And my cartel does not handle envy particularly well. Those who assigned me here years ago are now sending assassins to destroy me.
Ve'nari says: At the top of my list is an Inquisitor. His position has risen. I would be most generous were his existence to cease by your actions.
Ve'nari says: Be on alert. No doubt the Jailer's Eye will be upon this place.
Ve'nari says: Because I was able to anticipate your request, it just so happens I have already acquired a portal device that leads into the tower.
Ve'nari says: Better, but still distorted. Try another placement at a lower elevation.
Ve'nari says: Cartel Ve will continue to send operatives after me, but eliminating Ve'rayn affords me significant time.
Ve'nari says: Come, Maw Walker. I believe we have much to discuss.
Ve'nari says: Did you think they'd take the word of an assassin?
Ve'nari says: Do not ask how it was obtained. Simply consider it a gesture of goodwill that you are now obligated to repay. I look forward to our future transactions, Maw Walker.
Ve'nari says: Do you not long to see the realm of the First Ones for yourself?
Ve'nari says: Enough chuckling. Gather the stygia I require and return with haste. Your cypher awaits!
Ve'nari says: Farewell. Please do not tell anyone you saw me. And if you find yourself leaping into this maelstrom of gloom again, I do hope you'll bring along something interesting to trade.
Ve'nari says: First he'll turn the soulseekers on you. Then the towers. Then his kill squads. And after that... well, you don't want to know. Surgical and meticulous--that's how you stay alive.
Ve'nari says: For that is what we are, <name>. Partners. From now until our last flame flickers.
Ve'nari says: Fret not, mortal. A day at most away from his gaze, and the Jailer will turn his attention elsewhere. Then it will be safe for you to venture out again. To acquire stygia. For me.
Ve'nari says: Greetings, my friend.
Ve'nari says: I acknowledge the irony of me creating this rule despite my current inability to depart this place. You may laugh--briefly--without causing offense.
Ve'nari says: I asked for your help, Locus-Walker. Instead, you've dragged the Harbinger to my dome.
Ve'nari says: I have been woefully misrepresented! I can be a good friend, a useful friend, to those in need. And everyone is in need of something.
Ve'nari says: I have the means to keep us hidden, as I have before.
Ve'nari says: I must ask you to brave its perils and bring me remnants of the spirits that linger there.
Ve'nari says: I must confess, I was not certain you would return. Do not take this as a compliment.
Ve'nari says: I possess a device that will take us to a safe enclave near this landmass. Once we arrive, it is imperative that you stay close.
Ve'nari says: I suggest we travel there together. While you search for your waystone, I will determine what potential profits lie in store. For both of us, I mean.
Ve'nari says: I think not. Maw Walker, let us end this nuisance.
Ve'nari says: I will dispense with the usual warnings and disclaimers, as your unique combination of courage and foolhardiness would render them moot.
Ve'nari says: If they realize that you are my trading partner, I suspect they will eagerly end you in an effort to harm my prosperity.
Ve'nari says: In closing: Do not betray me.
Ve'nari says: In exchange, I will inform you if I discover any commentary on your dialogues with Ve'rayn among her records.
Ve'nari says: Interesting! Are those glittering objects... feathers?
Ve'nari says: Interesting! I've made an adjustment to the device to modify the destination coordinates.
Ve'nari says: It is remarkable what you can find discarded in the Maw. I pride myself on recognizing a valuable asset when I see one.
Ve'nari says: Learn what you can inside the Warrens, mortal. My research continues.
Ve'nari says: My cartel has been sending agents into the Maw for some time. A dangerous assignment, but the lure of valuable information has a certain appeal to my kind.
Ve'nari says: My eco-domes are constantly under attack. Not by Wastelanders and Shadowguard. Worse! Void grubs. Stomp them out before they pupate.
Ve'nari says: My fellow brokers whisper legends of this place. A magnificent city filled with treasures, its location a closely guarded secret.
Ve'nari says: No, Ve'brax. You will leave the Maw... but you will never return to the cartel.
Ve'nari says: Now that the Jailer's noticed you, you're doomed. Anything of import you do in the Maw will catch his attention. And attention is exactly what we don't want.
Ve'nari says: Now that we know there are mortals who can leave this realm, I suddenly find myself in what is, shall we say, an enviable position.
Ve'nari says: Perdition Hold is teeming with activity. I must know why.
Ve'nari says: Reports I intercepted from the Mawsworn indicate that the Jailer has been seeking a realm called Korthia.
Ve'nari says: Rule 1: Always have an exit strategy. To ensure one's continued existence within the Maw, one must maintain a plan of escape at all times.
Ve'nari says: Rule 2: Keep a low profile. The Maw is no place for theatrics. Get in, get what you want, and get out... while endeavoring to retain your limbs and other possessions.
Ve'nari says: Rule 3: Trust is earned, and information has a price. You recall the cypher I gave you? That's right--you are now in my debt.
Ve'nari says: Rule 4: Maintain a list of those who might wish to end your existence. Do not flatter yourself; your presence on this list is among the least of the Mawsworn's functionaries.
Ve'nari says: Rule 5: Be audacious, when the situation demands it. The Mawsworn rarely expect this.
Ve'nari says: Rule 6: Implement new concealment measures regularly. The Mawsworn never stop devising new ways to find us.
Ve'nari says: Rule 7: Betrayal is inevitable, even from those close to you. Especially from those close to you.
Ve'nari says: She brought down our defenses, and her Wastelanders are destroying the domes. They must be stopped.
Ve'nari says: Should you encounter others of my cartel in the Shadowlands, they are not to be trusted.
Ve'nari says: Soul-Scribe has betrayed us.
Ve'nari says: Stay close and obey my every word, lest the Jailer's Eye reduce you to stygia.
Ve'nari says: Stop them at the source, so we can return our attention to Soul-Scribe.
Ve'nari says: Take this experimental cypher. Should it function as I expect, entering Perdition Hold should not result in your sudden demise. Probably.
Ve'nari says: That Xy Cartel has lost control of the docks. I need someone competent to sort it out for them.
Ve'nari says: That took quite a bit of stygia... but I suppose that's the cost of doing business.
Ve'nari says: The Jailer has used enormous chains to pull a broken realm into the Maw. I caught only a glimpse, but I have a suspicion of what it might be.
Ve'nari says: The devourers seem to be coming from the Annex.
Ve'nari says: The good news is that you're safe here in my refuge. Not so out there. Remember, should a tragic fate befall you, some of that precious stygia might slip through your fingers.
Ve'nari says: The scent of anima betrays your presence inside Perdition Hold, mortal. Turn back!
Ve'nari says: There you are! I trust my bag isn't too heavy for you. Come along, then. We have much to do.
Ve'nari says: This cypher will dampen your aroma in their Warrens. Bring me the runes which animate these fiends, that I may better understand their function.
Ve'nari says: This is no time for idle chatter, Maw Walker. Come, we have much to do.
Ve'nari says: To the River of Souls you must go. Gorgoa flows through the Maw, delivering damned souls to their fate.
Ve'nari says: Torghast, eh? Once I told you that your friends were being held inside, I knew it was only a matter of time before you came to me for aid.
Ve'nari says: Tread carefully when the Eye of the Jailer falls upon you, mortal. It would be frightfully inconvenient to lose a trading partner with such potential!
Ve'nari says: Utilizing one of my more interesting devices. I'm afraid it will prove quite painful for you.
Ve'nari says: Were you not assigned to Korthia for your intellect? Your curiosity? Perhaps your "purpose", my friend, is not to hoard knowledge, but to share it with those who would put it to use.
Ve'nari says: What an admirably specific question... the answer to which I can only hypothesize.
Ve'nari says: With our defenses down, there is nothing to keep the devourers out. My people stand no chance.
Ve'nari says: With that thing dead, we can return to the real problem.
Ve'nari says: You are not equipped to enter the Beastwarrens, mortal. Turn back!
Ve'nari says: You have done me a great favor. Ve'rayn had proven herself... problematic for some time.
Ve'nari says: You really shouldn't linger here. The Jailer doesn't like having his toys taken away... even ones he discarded. Go on. Back to Oribos with you!
Ve'nari says: You were transferred, yes?

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