Ve'nari Reputation Guide - Maw and Stygia Farming

By Neryssa Updated: 2021/06/26

Ve'nariThe MawThe MawVe'nariChanges to Ve'nari Reputation in 9.1

With the removal of the Eye of the Jailer through Chains of Domination quests, you no longer have a daily limit to farm Ve'nari reputation.

However, to compensate for the removal of the Eye of the Jailer, Ve'nari no longer offers weekly quests, with these quests now being turned into dailies and giving reduced Reputation and Stygia.

Ve'nari now has a Paragon reputation, granting you Mysterious Gift from Ve'nari every 10k reputation beyond Appreciative.

With the effects of The True Maw Walker gained during the first chapters of the Chains of Domination campaign, Ve'nari reputation is no longer required to gain access to Perdition Hold or Beastwarrens. You must still grind reputation to gain the quests that grant the achievements Prepare for Trouble! and Make it Double!.

There are several new ways to gain reputation with Ve'nari:
The weekly quest The Cost of Death allows you to exchange 0 Stygia for 1000 Reputation with Ve'nari.

All the new Maw rares and most of the Korthia rares give reputation with Ve'nari, giving 100-150 Reputation per kill.

The first Tormentors of Torghast event done every week grants 200 Reputation with Ve'nari via Phantasmagoria.

Killing Ve'nari's investigator Ve'rayn in Korthia starts a quest that gives a one-time 1000 Reputation with Ve'nari, Ve'rayn's Head.

The Archivists' CodexVe'nari Reputation RewardsVe'nariThe MawVe'nari

Dubious - 0/1000

Apprehensive - 0/6000

Tentative - 0/7000

Ambivalent - 0/7000

Cordial - 0/21000

Appreciative - Max Level

Item

Cost

Reputation

Notes

Cypher of Relocation

0 Stygia

Dubious

Teleports you back to Ve'nari's Refuge. Must be in The Maw to use. 20-minute cooldown, has 5 charges.

Vessel of Unfortunate Spirits

7 Stygia

Apprehensive

Permanent Torghast upgrade. Makes it so your first death in Torghast is not applied to your death counter.

Extradimensional Pockets

0 Stygia

Apprehensive

Permanent Torghast upgrade. Allows Obleron Anima Powers in Torghast to be used in higher amounts.

Soultwinning Scepter

5 Stygia

Apprehensive

Casts Twinned Souls on yourself and a target ally, increasing all stats for both you and an ally by 5% while in The Maw. Buff will go away if you move more than 100 yards away from each other. Has 10 charges.

Oil of Ethereal Force

5 Stygia

Apprehensive

Increases your movement speed by 150% and grants invisibility from Maw enemies for 15 seconds. 5 minute cooldown, has 5 charges.

Prepare for Trouble!
(Perdition Hold Access)

Tentative

Reaching Tentative unlocks the quest Rule 5: Be Audacious. Completing this quest grants you Cypher of Obfuscation, which will remove the effects of Exposed Anima in Perdition Hold.

Bangle of Seniority

5 Stygia

Tentative

Permanent Torghast Upgrade. Grants Broker vendors inside Torghast a chance to offer uncommon Anima Powers to sell.

Sigil of the Unseen

6 Stygia

Tentative

Permanent The Maw Upgrade. Grants immunity from The Jailer's Mark cast by Assassins that are invoked with Eye of the Jailer level 3.

Animated Levitating Chain

0 Stygia

Tentative

Permanent The Maw Upgrade. Allows usage of several Grapple Points scattered across The Maw.

Animaflow Stabilizer

0 Stygia

Tentative

Permanent The Maw upgrade. Activates a teleporter within Ve'nari's Refuge. This teleporter is a one-way travel to the Tremaculum, on the northern portion of The Maw.

Maw-Touched Miasma

0 Stygia

Tentative

Surround yourself with miasma, dealing damage every second to any Mawrats within 15 yards of you. Lasts 30 minutes. Only usable in Torghast.

Sticky-Fingered Skeletal Hand

0 Stygia

Tentative

Attempts to unlock certain locked doors and passages in Torghast. 1 minute cooldown, has 4 charges.

Make it Double!
(Beastwarrens Access)

Ambivalent

Reaching Ambivalent unlocks the quest Rule 6: Concealment is Everything. Completing this quest grants you Cypher of Dampening, which will remove the effects of Otherworldly Screeching in the Beastwarrens.

Soul-Stabilizing Talisman

5 Stygia

Ambivalent

Permanent The Maw upgrade. Grants immunity to Soul Brand cast by Abductors that are invoked with Eye of the Jailer level 4.

Ritual Prism of Fortune

5 Stygia

Ambivalent

Permanent Torghast upgrade. Permanently increases the chance of receiving Epic Anima Powers from Anima Hoards in Torghast.

Phantasmic Infuser

0 Stygia

Ambivalent

Destroys 100 Phantasma to empower yourself for 30 minutes in Torghast. The item is reusable.

Memory of Jailer's Eye

6 Stygia

Ambivalent

Unlocks the Memory of the Jailer's Eye legendary at the Runecarver. Killing an enemy grants you the Third Eye, increasing your Primary Stat by 1% for 10 sec, stacking up to 7 and increasing the duration by 1 sec for each additional stack. The duration of the Third Eye is increased by 50% while in the Maw. Can be crafted on Head, Shoulder or Waist slots.

Loupe of Unusual Charm

0 Stygia

Cordial

Permanent Torghast upgrade. Grants a chance to obtain reduced prices on Anima Hoards sold by Broker vendors.

Rank Insignia: Acquisitionist

5 Stygia

Cordial

Permanent Torghast Upgrade. Grants Broker vendors inside Torghast a chance to offer one Rare Anima Power to sell.

Recipe: Crafter's Mark II

0 Stygia

Cordial

Teaches you how to craft a Crafter's Mark II, an Optional Reagent that increases the item level of the piece of gear being crafted.

Possibility Matrix

5 Stygia

Appreciative

Permanent Torghast Upgrade. Improves Anima Hoard orbs in Torghast by allowing them to always have at least two options of Anima Powers.

Broker Traversal Enhancer

5 Stygia

Appreciative

Use: Allows you to see and use hidden teleportation points in Torghast.

StygiaStygiaVe'nariThe MawDying while within The Maw will cause players to lose 20% of their current Stygia!A Note About Corpse RunningThe MawStygiaIMPORTANT:gone for goodThe Eye of the Jailer

IMPORTANT NOTE: With Patch 9.1, Chains of Domination, you are able to completely nullify the effects of the Eye of the Jailer by completing the storyline up to the end of chapter 3, Focusing the Eye, as the Eye of the Jailer will retreat from watching over the Maw to become a boss in the Sanctum of Domination raid.

The information on the Eye of the Jailer is being kept on this guide for historical purposes.

The Eye of the JailerThe MawThe Eye of the JailerThe Maw

Tier 1: Eye of the Jailer: Soul Beacon - Soulseekers are now hostile to you.
Mawsworn Soulseeker are mobs that roam around the Maw and are usually neutral. They are heavy hitters with abilities like Decaying Blast and Focused Annihilation.

Eye of the Jailer: Soul Surge

Soul Surges will be cast at your location periodically. If hit, you will suffer heavy damage and chained to the floor. The chains can be broken by clicking them.

Eye of the Jailer: Hunted

Periodically you will get the Hunted debuff. With this debuff, the next time you enter in combat, an Assassin will spawn and attempt to kill you. They are not very dangerous mobs, but they cast The Jailer's Mark, which will further increase your Eye of the Jailer threat.

Eye of the Jailer: Winged Abductors

Every so often, a Stygian Abductor will abduct you and slowly fly up, inflicting you with Soul Brand. Once the Abductor is high enough, it will cast Quietus Strike and hurl you away. You can kill an Abductor before Quietus Strike happens, but make sure you have a Goblin Glider Kit or other forms of fall damage to safely land.

Immediate Extermination

Each stack of Immediate Extermination reduces healing taken by 10%. With a new stack being applied every 20 seconds, you have a little over 3 minutes to get out of The Maw before the debuff fully stacks up. Once at max stacks, you will take 10% of your max health in Shadow damage every second.
In addition to Immediate Extermination, you will receive the Eye of the Jailer debuff, which reduces all Stygia and Ve'nari reputation gains by 100%. You can still turn in quests with this debuff, but mobs and rares/events will no longer grant Stygia or reputation.

Gaining Access to Ve'nariVe'nariLevel 60

Friends in Dark Places (Kyrian)

The Soul Contact (Necrolord)

Do What We Cannot (Night Fae)

Back into the Darkness (Venthyr)

Ve'nari

Setting the Ground Rules

Rule 1: Have an Escape Plan

Rule 2: Keep a Low Profile

Rule 3: Trust is Earned

Ve'nariThe MawStygiaGaining Reputation With Ve'nariVe'nariThe MawThe Eye of the JailerAcquiring Maw Lore ItemsVe'nariDeciphering Death's IntentionsRaresThe MawKorthiaDeadly SeriousThe MawBetter to Be Lucky Than DeadConquering KorthiaSpecial EncountersHandling His HenchmenThe MawIt's About Sending a MessageDaily QuestsVe'nariStygia

Acquisition: Blazing Ingots
A Shadowed Fate
Disrupting the Flow
Torment for the Taking
Misery's Company
A Monument to Vengeance
Sundered Souls
Acquisition: Runeforged Shackles
Drowned and Torn Asunder
Acquisition: Crystallized Stygia
A Suitable Demise
Dust to Dust
Eye of the Scryer
The Jailer's Share
Misery Business
Death Motes
Grathalax, the Extractor
Disrupting the Cycle
A Spark of Light
Words of Warding (Perdition Hold)
Power of the Colossus (Perdition Hold)
Forces of Perdition (Perdition Hold)
Acquisition: Stygic Ore (The Beastwarrens)
Rodent Removal (The Beastwarrens)
What They Know (The Beastwarrens)

Wrath of the Jailer EventsStygiaTormentors of Torghast EventsPhantasmagoriaStygiaReputation BoostsDarkmoon FaireDarkmoon Top HatWHEE!

Comments

Comment by Norainjs

Who the hell is Ve'nari? I certanly don't know them.

Comment by NiccoloM

When you unlock Perdition Hold, you get a third daily quest each day.
Whoever wrote this guide better get on with the different areas of the zone.

Comment by niholas

Not sure where the third daily is today (8/12), I have cordial rep and still only see 2 daily quests.

Comment by LarryRui

There is a WeakAura has improved Blizzard's eye of the Jailer.
https://wago.io/xOLvG0S0F

This WA mainly solves the problem that the Blizzard's eye of the Jailer does not display detailed threat values, while trying to keep the interface simple and beautiful.

Features

Showing current threat tier and details
Customizing color at different threat tiers
Hiding blizzard's eye of the Jailer to save screen space
Animating amounts of threat increased
Threat tier tooltip (same as default UI)

Hope it helps.

Comment by Rusteeze

Not sure if this gets read but I really hope it helps!
I've made a full route guide with ve nari in order to get 1500 rep a day after the daily hand ins. I also located all of the guaranteed drops as a part of Deciphering Deaths Intentions in order to maximise rep ASAP to get those sockets & torghast upgrades unlocked. Basically getting the maximum rep each day entails finishing the daily quests while at 5 threat, yes which is possible even after the change to the stacks resetting when at max threat. By focusing just on the 600k+ HP Rares you get 100 rep per kill and the same threat as killing a daily objective or smaller rare (which reward 40 or 80 rep respectively).
With the chance at the Maw Mount being in the beast warrens unlocking ve nari rep will be a huge advantage to getting early sockets on pieces.

I've been able to farm all but 4 of these items which has helped me get 6200 rep into cordial, including finding the guaranteed spawn location of several of the items:

Tormentors Notes (35.77 45.55)
Tormentors Box (72.59 17.62)
Wailing Coin (Odalrik)
Warsworn Orders (Cyrixia)
Words of the Warden (19.37 33.42)
Korrath's Grimoire:Aleketh (Dath Rezara)

These alone will help you get 700 rep at least (without human or Dark Moon Faire buff) as they reward 100-150 rep and can be turned in even at max threat.

Let me know if you've got anything extra to add as well, it would be great to start a detailed thread for rep grind with ve nari so we can get those sockets early!
Really hope this helps

TL;DR - Kill 600k+ HP rares, finish dailies up to 90% then 100% at threat 5, get as many of Deciphering Deaths Intentions (Achievement) items as possible

Full Video Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YgFcwKcEmo&t=78s&ab_channel=Rusteeze

Comment by florex8

Every time I leave Ve'nari to go into the maw I expect to hear "You're powered up, get in there"

Love it! <3

Comment by SR84

Seems like the Maw and Torghast aren't really terribly useful for casual players. Torghast is fun..don't get me wrong.. but everything seems to require massive amounts of grinding.

Do the maw so torghast is easier... do torghast so you can travel the maw easier.

I see a legendary or two but.. am I missing something?

I do enjoy running Torghast but I thought maybe it would play into slightly more casual play too.

Comment by Earther

The table for what she sells is incomplete.

May be missing other things, but the one I noticed was Encased Riftwalker Essence.

Comment by Socairnone

And does anyone recall Bliz saying that rep grinding would be a thing of the past come this expansion.

So they might not call it rep .... but it seems if you have a toon that is a crafter there is more (not called rep) grinding in this expansion and with more factions than any other previous expansion.

I'll also add that I have always resented having to run out of the ordinary content to get the patterns or recipes I need make the items I want and to pick up mats I need to make them.

Comment by grimnotepad

Assassin's Soulcloak should be something you can buy from her once you access perdition hold

Comment by bootsandcats

At the very top of this page, under the

"Daily Route on Farming Ve'nari Reputation"
Here's a TL;DR guide on how to farm Ve'nari Reputation:

There is a bullet point that says

Pick up and complete any dailies you see in The Maw, these should be scattered around the map. Each daily quest grants 75 Reputation and 140 Stygia, but also grant a full level of Eye of the Jailer threat when you finish the quest's objective.

This should be corrected to "also grant half a level of Eye of the Jailer threat when you finish the quest's objective".

Comment by 2124517

This guide harbors misinformation. Ve'nari rep is not account wide.

Comment by AriesShion

It might also be useful to note that while the permanent upgrades for Torghast are account-wide -- meaning that once you buy them on your main you won't see hem offered to your alts -- the Maw upgrades don't appear to be.

Comment by SugarInFurs

>However, to compensate for the removal of the Eye of the Jailer, Ve'nari no longer offers weekly quests, with these quests now being turned into dailies and giving reduced Reputation and Stygia.

Can't have TOO much fun!

Comment by AriesShion

Note that certain rares/bonus objectives (e.g., Odalrik, Sousmith) now only give 40 rep (44 with Human racial Diplomacy bonus), not a minimum of 80 as clamed here.

Comment by Scaryfox

I apparently only got to the third tier since I have some progress on killing the assassins. I couldn't imagine the 5th one albeit you can probably teleport out.

Ve'nari Reputation Guide - Maw and Stygia Farming

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