Are Players Receiving Less Raid Loot in Season of Discovery Phase 3?

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As has been said in other posts, to compensate, each boss in ST would need to drop AT LEAST 8-9 pieces of loot. And thats with a lot of room. If you dont count 2 ids per week but 2.33, its closer to 10 per boss.

As it stands, we arent even at 6 on average.
Josh GreenfieldThe Wild Gods

It’s 5 or more items up from 2 and set piece tokens are on every boss. You’ll gear up fast and there’s a lot of other sources for gear to tide you over until you get to things from the raid. We toyed with even more drops per boss but it really just started to feel not quite right. In general going forward I think we want to try to aim for you have options between different activities to gear up so we don’t just have raiding be the only thing you ever want to do to progress.

Especially at 60, we have a lot of vectors for this (crafting, pvp, reputations, dungeons, and potentially more wild gods-esque deterministic systems). This feels better to us than just throwing the kitchen sink at you in the raids.

Comment by turtlesaurNo, our 10 man raid group wasn't able to scale to 20, so we have to pug it for some of our roster, and thus MS > OS rolls. I've yet to receive loot on 2 lock outs, which was some 13-14 boss kills. Which is conceivably 25% of the lock outs already if we stick to 8 week phases.

It feels bad being told "well there's other ways to get loot" what's the point? Perhaps if we had a better looting system like personal loot. As it currently stands with the rotation of players into the group, I'm unlikely to even finish my tier set raiding every lock out.Comment by TwentyfoursHaving out side of raid gear be better or equal to raid gear does not solve this problem. People will just want better raid gear to drop...Comment by FelspethAre you saying I cant get full bis in 2 lockouts? OMG! unsubbing this garbage game then.. Thats outrageous!
On the other hand, getting 1 piece of loot per lockout is kinda nice so I have a reason to continue raiding each week on my mainComment by MarkizzNo, our 10 man raid group wasn't able to scale to 20, so we have to pug it for some of our roster, and thus MS > OS rolls. I've yet to receive loot on 2 lock outs, which was some 13-14 boss kills. Which is conceivably 25% of the lock outs already if we stick to 8 week phases.

It feels bad being told "well there's other ways to get loot" what's the point? Perhaps if we had a better looting system like personal loot. As it currently stands with the rotation of players into the group, I'm unlikely to even finish my tier set raiding every lock out.Comment by turtlesaurAre you saying I cant get full bis in 2 lockouts? OMG! unsubbing this garbage game then.. Thats outrageous!
On the other hand, getting 1 piece of loot per lockout is kinda nice so I have a reason to continue raiding each week on my mainComment by gna582Honestly, it depends on how long the phase will last.
If they actually run it for 3 months => all is fine
If they shortcut it again => sad lifeComment by RikipapaNo, our 10 man raid group wasn't able to scale to 20, so we have to pug it for some of our roster, and thus MS > OS rolls. I've yet to receive loot on 2 lock outs, which was some 13-14 boss kills. Which is conceivably 25% of the lock outs already if we stick to 8 week phases.

It feels bad being told "well there's other ways to get loot" what's the point? Perhaps if we had a better looting system like personal loot. As it currently stands with the rotation of players into the group, I'm unlikely to even finish my tier set raiding every lock out.Comment by ShockSpinHonestly, it depends on how long the phase will last.
If they actually run it for 3 months => all is fine
If they shortcut it again => sad lifeComment by wingofbenuNo, our 10 man raid group wasn't able to scale to 20, so we have to pug it for some of our roster, and thus MS > OS rolls. I've yet to receive loot on 2 lock outs, which was some 13-14 boss kills. Which is conceivably 25% of the lock outs already if we stick to 8 week phases.

It feels bad being told "well there's other ways to get loot" what's the point? Perhaps if we had a better looting system like personal loot. As it currently stands with the rotation of players into the group, I'm unlikely to even finish my tier set raiding every lock out.Comment by saiadarDear wowhead-team,

Would it hurt to stick to valuable content instead of this drama-seeking nonsense? It's quite embarrassing the see every time something like this gets mirrored into our Discords.

Sincerely,

Loads of peopleComment by InsceneAlways great as alliance to see shaman loot rot. Hope horde is getting tons of plate healing gear. Doing the math it should take 4ish weeks for everyone to get their MS set which is fine. But the other stuff is .... well kinda not great if it's not BiS at least somewhere some fight etc.Comment by FLambdaI personally am all for driving more people to join guilds and get in a static group. Its a healthier and better experience than rolling the dice on a pug group every week. stop being lazy about interacting with the community, and you'll have a better time playing, I promise.Comment by Naraka33I'm fine with it. My only issue is I already only log in once a week, for 2-3 hours, then I have nothing interesting to do. I'm not really into alts or PvP. I wish there was more to the game. Some dungeon content that actually rewards you something. The incursion were a nice PVE touch but the fun lasted like 2 days.Comment by klarThe biggest problem of classic is loot barely matters, buffs and consumables are an insane powercreep which makes every item upgrade negligible.
There's no point upgrading a Phase 2 item with 9 spell power to a Phase 3 item with 9 spell and 5 int when the consumables give astronomical amounts of stats and increasesComment by TimeofdeathI love how he says in the post each boss drops 5 items with 2 more being tier tokens. well im sorry to say. but my guild has cleared up to Hakkar in 2 locks outs. and the most that we have ever seen was 3 piece of gear and 2 tokens never have we had more then 6 items on a boss including the toys added...that aren't gear............ not to mention the god awful amount of shaman mail drops......as an alliance guild we have DE'd more gear then we have handed out to our raider.........so no most of my guild wont be geared by the end of this phase. nor does what mr.greenfield says make any since. literally lying to us.Comment by MilfeboiI love how he says in the post each boss drops 5 items with 2 more being tier tokens. well im sorry to say. but my guild has cleared up to Hakkar in 2 locks outs. and the most that we have ever seen was 3 piece of gear and 2 tokens never have we had more then 6 items on a boss including the toys added...that aren't gear............ not to mention the god awful amount of shaman mail drops......as an alliance guild we have DE'd more gear then we have handed out to our raider.........so no most of my guild wont be geared by the end of this phase. nor does what mr.greenfield says make any since. literally lying to us.Comment by SchlossRitterHaving alternate vectors for upgrades is nice, outside of one issue, armor sets. If I'm getting my chest piece one place, boots another, wrist another, etc, how am I supposed to ever get a set bonus? Granted, the bonus is mostly icing, but it's still nothing I've ever gotten as a semi serious player, even after increased effort lately to catch up with content.Comment by GetbloodyPlease add items to the Emerald Wardens at revered and exalted stages.Comment by JotaRandomok you could run 3 times a raid, then you get 2 pieces per run so that 2 * 3 = 6 but now Sunken them to 1 time a raid for now is 5 * 1 = 5 therefore mathematically IS less loot at least raw lootComment by New2wowbniceNo, our 10 man raid group wasn't able to scale to 20, so we have to pug it for some of our roster, and thus MS > OS rolls. I've yet to receive loot on 2 lock outs, which was some 13-14 boss kills. Which is conceivably 25% of the lock outs already if we stick to 8 week phases.

It feels bad being told "well there's other ways to get loot" what's the point? Perhaps if we had a better looting system like personal loot. As it currently stands with the rotation of players into the group, I'm unlikely to even finish my tier set raiding every lock out.