Guardian Druid Review of Elune's Chosen Hero Talents - Strong Fantasy But A Lot of Filler

Posted 2024/03/07 at 10:35 PM by Pumps

8 new Hero Talent Trees

Hero Talents are an extension of the Talent system designed to explore class fantasy with a third talent tree, separate from your class and specialization. With the release of Alpha, Blizzard has previewed most Hero Talents Trees coming in the next expansion, The War Within.
The War Within Hero Talents Overview

Our Guide Writers have provided initial first impressions on the Hero Talent Trees revealed so far. Check out all of our released Hero Talent reviews in our new Editorial Section.

Wowhead Editorials

Chosen of Elune Guardian Druid ReviewUpcoming Talent Tree Changes?Lunar BeamFury of EluneLunar BeamFury of EluneMoon Bear a-risin'Fury of EluneLunar BeamNode by Node Analysis

- Leeching 10% of ALL damage dealt to enemies in the Lunar Beam could be quite strong, especially with Rage of the Sleeper already granting so much leech. Also the potential reduced CD on beam could give this great uptime on a solid amount of leech which is great for bear as Frenzied Regeneration healing is more sparse.

- Another very cool talent. Making Thrash deal arcane damage, what a great concept in this Arcane themed tree! Elune's Favored is the first talent that comes to mind, we could potentially have an incredible amount of self-healing incoming at a consistent rate which would make Guardian feel very strong, as gaps in our healing is one of the biggest downfalls of Guardian.

- This could be great, depends on the proc chance and whether or not it is solely from activation of an arcane ability. In combination with this could easily mean massive uptime on Lunar Beam which with would mean a monstrous mastery boost and a huge amount of leech to boot.

- The mastery boost on this is pretty significant, Lunar Beam would become a very significant offensive and defensive cooldown on a very short cooldown. Short, strong cooldowns are the best.

- This could be a really fun talent, similar to the Torghast power that summoned Moons on moonfire ticks. Will it be able to summon multiple Fury of Elune beams? That would be very fun.

- Hopefully this doubles with Twin Moonfire. Good talent though, rage gen is always appreciated.

- Good, adds a bit more flavor to the playstyle in a non-invasive way.

- This is also good, adding to the gameplay is a great addition, especially in a few small ways like this, nothing astronomical changes, just pool a bit of rage before you press Lunar Beam so you have more to utilize in the damage window.

- Damage of Lunar Beam is pretty low, so increasing it doesn't make a huge difference. We also can't really gauge how hard Fury of Elune will hit as we won't know what the coefficients will look like and whether it will be affected by the massive 50% Bear aura yet. It's also on a choice node with one of the better talents .

- Only 10% Arcane damage while Incarn is active, that seems very weak? Convoke is awfully tuned for bear currently and this doesn't make up for it but that doesn't mean it can't receive a huge buff in TWW and be viable for us again. Think is a thumbs down because it's weaker than most single points in our regular spec tree. It's also on a choice node with potentially one of the strongest talents .

- 3% arcane damage? this is an incredibly weak and boring talent. Ain't nothing heroic about this node. Also competes with one of the potentially best talents .

- This seems incredibly underwhelming for a "HERO" talent. This is worse than most talents in our regular tree. I don't think hero talents should have these kind of weak filler nodes.

- Another very weak filler node, unless a fight has specifically dangerous arcane damage.

- A strange middle ground between this and Infected Wounds. Probably don't need both. In mass aoe you aren't guaranteed to have moonfire on all targets which would make this very niche. I think it could be replaced and made into something a little better and more interesting.

- This is extremely niche and i think has no real place in a Hero talent setting. Who is using wild charge off cooldown? When will this 3 seconds be useful in PVE?

Final ThoughtsbalancedLunar BeamBoundless MoonlightMoon GuardianGlistening FurLunar InsightLunar AmplificationAtmospheric ExposureMoon DustElunes GraceStellar CommandLunar CallingThe Light of EluneAstral Insight: IncarnationArcane AffinityLunationThe Eternal Moon

Comment by MarkElfPretty much addressed my main concerns for bear. The Bal/Bear tree has a decent chuck of just flat-out useless/dead nodes. While using Lunar Beam (and Fury of Elune which we don't have) is interesting but we don't currently take it or at least I don't for any content. Warrior is apparently get some tree changes for TWW so almost safe to assume druid and other classes receive changes too. Some additional CC like a moon beam (same thing as Moonkin's solar beam silence) would be neat.Comment by PlaidiatorWould be cool if one of the talents made crescent moons orbit around you dealing damage to enemies they pass through. What else would really sell the moon bear theme?
Oh! The moon tattoos on bear shoulders should glow blue if you have this talent tree!Comment by TernelLunar beam is a joke and should be removed.

Also incarnation itself is pretty awful, demanding 5 talent points to be a mediocre 3 min CD.Comment by SproketsIf lunar beam was also a 'sigil of chains' that would peak my interest. would be nice to play a different build, its such a shame lunar beam was so undertuned this pass. maybe season 4 it might become a choice so we can actually press the buttonComment by LamakoonAwe jeeez, so far none of these "hero" trees make me hyped.Comment by MyFingerIsOnCDIf lunar beam was also a 'sigil of chains' that would peak my interest. would be nice to play a different build, its such a shame lunar beam was so undertuned this pass. maybe season 4 it might become a choice so we can actually press the buttonComment by Cimegs5088Wait...not one of three hero talents for all druid spec?Comment by Arthas2183Im not impressed with hero talents so i wont be picking any i'll continue to play the game without them, i play for fun so these wont effect my game play at all.Comment by PumpsWould be cool if one of the talents made crescent moons orbit around you dealing damage to enemies they pass through. What else would really sell the moon bear theme?
Oh! The moon tattoos on bear shoulders should glow blue if you have this talent tree!Comment by johntravolta342Im not impressed with hero talents so i wont be picking any i'll continue to play the game without them, i play for fun so these wont effect my game play at all.Comment by DeadarthWait...not one of three hero talents for all druid spec?Comment by MorrddI mean, the article title could just be shortened to "Hero Talents - Strong Fantasy But A Lot of Filler" and still be perfectly on point...Comment by Morrdd(p.s. Excellent analysis Pumps, thank you!)Comment by CornellAKABCMUgh. Honestly, with all the negative things regarding Hero Talents going around, I think we would've been better off with the talent system we have right now and just get more points through the 71-80 experience.Comment by WillowwhispWhere is Sunfury?Comment by ScaryfoxUgh. Honestly, with all the negative things regarding Hero Talents going around, I think we would've been better off with the talent system we have right now and just get more points through the 71-80 experience.Comment by ShuurahI liked the article

However, the thumbs down session mostly mentioned numerical talents

But, in these early stages, numbers don't count that much

And, in the possibility of airing like this, it would be better than some awkward interaction, no?Comment by ElunarioGlistening Fur: instead of adding a flat baseline magic resist of 3% (which is still pretty low), Blizzard should rather add an active magic damage mitigation skill to the guardian toolkit.Comment by RazorgrinUgh. Honestly, with all the negative things regarding Hero Talents going around, I think we would've been better off with the talent system we have right now and just get more points through the 71-80 experience.Comment by DanimalultratypeReplace Lunar Beam with a Full Moon or Orbital Bombardment, have them apply the Moonfire dot, and apply a mastery/leech bonus. Lots more fun to play

Even better - Orbital Bombardment that teleports you to the destination (so the basically the exact ability that Evokers have). Bears could use a trample style movement ability