Who cares about faction identity at this point. The Horde vs Alliance shtick has been played out and is utterly tiresome now. Plus we had to endure not one but two of the worst warchiefs in recent memory. (Garrosh and Sylvanas).I'd rather the two factions just bury the hatchet completely and remain allies from now on. Also PvP can go die in a fire!
I believe that it is impossible for factions to "stop existing", just as it is not possible to stop certain tensions between certain races, such as elves and trolls, which have had a conflict for centuries (despite being from the same faction nowadays).But I believe that the tendency is to stop with "let's destroy/dominate x/y people and conquer Azeroth for the X/Y faction".Anyway, if we are talkinh about Turalyon and the Mag'har orcs, we must remember that Turalyon knew the orcs from the first wars, he didn't knew a "good side" of orcs, like Jaina (with Thrall in Warcraft 3), for exemple.And we know Maghars doesnt have a good relationshipo with the "soldiers of the light"...
I'm all for unity since a lack of war doesn't take away any traditions they've built up. Everybody led by Anduin? What happened to the Horde Council? Oh, and what about Night Elf Warlocks? That still doesn't make any sense to me, especially with their heritage armor quest involves a family torn about demons.
The writers don't know how to write Horde. Either they make them villains/put them in a civil war when in faction conflict mode, or they get sidelined and the game becomes The Alliance Show when they're "working together".Dragonflight was Night Elf centric. TWW is starting off with Anduin, Khadgar, Jaina, Alleria, Moira, Dagran. And I bet that when a Horde character finally takes the stage it'll be either Calia or Lort'themar and Thalyssra, basically Red Alliance.Core Horde races are irrelevant, their old leadership killed off and the new leadership not given any development.
Hot take apparently, but I like being the RP elements of hating Alliance.It's fun to $%^& talk and get $%^& talked by my friends who play the opposite faction.I don't wanna be buddy buddy with the Alliance.Sure, we'll work together to fight something bigger, but that doesn't mean I wanna go back home to gnomes or some !@#$ in my capital.(Yes, I'm a World of Warcraft racist)
Yeah, i also do believe there should be war between factions. There should be sides, like theres on every game with factions. It was more fun when we were at war.
The horde and the alliance aren't countries though. They're alliances. I'd expect less a horde culture and more an Undercity, Silvermoon, and Orgrimmar culture. With specific subcultures for, say, the goblin minority.
what if the Horde and Alliance are not monolithic omnipresent factions and they have layers and groups within them that either pursue peace and cooperation while others are simply not into working with the opposite faction and instead prefer fighting them?
Just make it where when you create a new character you pick any race and then pick your faction. Beautiful world peace. And cow on cow fights.
Faction war stopped making sense past Cata and everything that tried to keep it going was forced or just turned into 'well actually the person pushing for it is evil and not a part of the actual faction now' so it ended up making even less sense every time. If they want to keep pvp and war mode in they can just make it some bronze dragon timeline junk to explain it away when you engage in it. Sure, we can keep the political divides and disagreements, especially with old wounds still being there, but outright physical hostility on sight needed to get dumped a long time ago.Also I want to see gnomes in Orgrimmar because with both them and Vulpera in the same space en masse there'd be some really funny aneurysms.
go away ...the faction bs is just as dumb idea that effectively cuts the playerbase in half.....