Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds

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Comment by 557575

Im assuming this is going to be collected from ZG using archaeology. Atm the level 60 weapon of the same name and model drops from ZG, but ZG is going to be removed as an instance. Just my thought. Also, the tooltip says it's BoA, which is strange. I dunno if it's a bug or if that is intended. Either way, i have 1000 more new items to look through! :D

Comment by Strafer

Imagine dual wielding this bad boy.

Comment by biogoo

Items obtained through archaeology will be BoA.

Comment by 333232

me gusta

Comment by Siromo

I absolutely love that blizz brought this bad boy back.

Comment by Gannon

You could always get the lvl 60 version from ZG and dual wield with the new BoA version if you really wanted to.

Comment by 203804

This is the best 2H sword you can get before heroics

Comment by StaticLgtBrngr

Nice, they brought it back!

I still use the original version of this on my pala when doing baron runs and stuff, will look forward to (or attempting to) uncover and reforge this.

I always liked the original version of this because it still looked very imposing even on small / female characters unlike a lot of other weapons that scale down too much, heres hoping the new one is just as good.

Comment by Meak

''Binds to account'' Awesome! Oh wait.. I have to level from 19 to 85 first:(

Comment by LoreKeeperMobius

anyone else noticed the 3d model is upside down?

Comment by Zebeyo

Well yes but on the other hand look at the icon and look at those leather straps hanging down from the handle. maybe they changed it in the game too?

Comment by ViceVersa

One of the rare tier items in Troll Archaeology.
Requires 150 Troll Archaeology Fragments.
Keystone: Troll Tablet

Common tier Troll items:
Zandalari Voodoo Doll
Fetish of Hir'eek
Eerie Hakkari Idol
Lizard Foot Charm
Jade Asp with Ruby Eyes
Feathered Gold Earring
Cinnabar Bijou
Atal'ai Scepter
Gahz'rilla Figurine
Skull-Shaped Planter
Bracelet of Jade and Coins
Drakkari Sacrificial Knife
Tooth with Gold Filling
Fine Bloodscalp Dinnerware

Rare tier Troll items:
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds
Voodoo Figurine
Haunted War Drum

Comment by Leronroll

Chance on use: summons Linea.

Comment by pain799

look at those stats zomg

Comment by Fawful

I wonder if this will be unable to be rune forged like the BoA heirloom weapons.

Comment by 671660

epic

Comment by Nathiest

Interesting. It appears that if you hold it one way it's a level 60 item, but if you where to hold it the other way it's a level 85 item. lol take a look Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds

Comment by Butch82

Zin'rokh can be obtained as soon as you hit 450 skill in Archaeology and complete troll artifacts. If you are lucky, you get assigned Zin'rokh as your next "solve".

If you fill the three "sockets" of this solve with Troll Tablets, you can reduce the total amount of troll fragments needed from 150 to 114.

EDIT(clarification for people not knowing how archaeology works):

You fly around the world, digging up fragments for different races. You have a different "task" for each race, that can be "solved" as soon as you have collected the correct amount of fragments for that race. When you solve a task(aka artifact), you get 5 skillpoints plus that artifact in your inventory (mostly grey vendor trash) and get assigned a new task/artifact, depending on your current skill in archaeology.

For Zin'rokh, you have to have 450+ skill to have a chance of receiving it as your next task. But most likely you will have to solve a lot of grey crap before you are lucky to get it. There are a lot of people in beta with 525 in archaeology and a lot of solved troll artifacts, but still no Zin'rokh yet, whereas i got it on my first or second troll solve past skill 450. It's just dumb luck.

Comment by 673286

Whats gonna happen if we still have the original? will it get changed or removed?

Comment by Rkane

That was because of the heirloom's item level.

This has an ilvl of 359, it will be fine.

Comment by palma

I'm looking at this weapon, and all I see is 3.8 speed, which is quite enough to get me feel worm and fuzzy inside, and to put a happy grin on my face.
Anyone experiencing similar effect from slow melee weapons that are crawling back into the game?

Comment by 422544

So do you get like a quest everday and on can be Zin'rokh? Also is troll artifacts a quest. Just wondering not a beta tester.

Comment by 58807

Still technically better than pre-heroic anyway. It's best pre-raid too!

Comment by 530887

it will most likley be like titansteel destroyer in early wrath, same IL as first 10m raid

Comment by 128727

No.. Everytime you "solve" an artifact, you get an item. Most likely a common item that sells like 1gold to vendor. Then you will get a new "solve", and if you're lucky, it will be a rare artifact, as Butch82 said. Maybe a Zin'rokh artifact, and you may get http://cata.wowhead.com/item=64377. Its not a quest or a daily. If you're lucky enough, you can get this rare artifact Solve 5 times a day.

Comment by paddymew

Why the downrate?

Comment by zalomalo

Its not bad item; anyway its 100% a hunter item. :P

Comment by cryhavoc82

If Blizz isn't changing how you get your next artifact assigned, this certainly won't be as common as Titansteel Destroyer was in Wrath.

I have solved every Troll artifact except this, some of them even five times. It just is pure luck if you get it assigned as your next solve.

Comment by morbycakes

Currently best in slot pre hard mode loot by a landslide as a DK and most likely as any other 2h class. It will most likely be nerfed to be in line with all the other items of it's iLevel. Nothing even comes close as a Human even if they nerf it though.

Comment by 696828

I doubt they'll nerf the weapon damage... as Zin'rokh and Reclaimed Ashkandi have the same stats and are of a higher swing speed than the other 2-handers gained in raids. They'd have to lower the swing speed to justify a nerf. Weapon damage never has to be in line with other 2-handers of the same item level as long as weapon dps stays the same.

As for the extra strength, they may shave off 33 in order to bring it up to 359 levels... In the end, the decision between Zin'Rokh and Ashkandi will be purely aesthetic until you do heroic modes.

Comment by Supercool

While it would be nice to give the model a slight update, more than anything I wish they would flip the sword back around. Originally Zin'rokh's point was curved downward. See its spiritual successor Jin'rohk for an example of this. For that matter, see some of the earlier screenshots of the original. At some point after Wrath released, for no stated reason, the model was flipped around so the tip pointed up.

Comment by Ssateneth

Don't think anyone will be pissed that you'll have it as a hunter since you couldn't have stolen it from a legit strength-using class, but they will probably not invite you to raids due to using such an inferior weapon. Don't be a baddie.

Comment by JustAnt

Why isn't it right side up?

Comment by Firatha

This is right side up it got flipped this way in patch 3.2.

Comment by 353551

Bigger! Make the sword biggeeeeer!

Comment by 672899

This is one sexy 2h-er! MmmmM cant wait!

Comment by 680880

has anyone wonderd whats the connection of zin`rokh the destroyer of worlds and jin`rokh the great apocalypse i wish that they renewd jin rokh too like they did zin rokh

Comment by 244522

Just curious... if you send it to your DK and runeforge it, will it be impossible to send it to another toon?
I got a paladin, a warrior and a DK and they all will have some use for it when hitting 85... just wondering how enchants
affect the BoA?
Best to put a normal enchant on it and only use on paladin and warrior?

edit: lol at muppets downrating for no reason now, the new WoWHead-achievements are doing great things to this site...

Comment by 657162

That massive sword would look awsome with heroic throw.

Comment by heiden

To bad they f*cked up the looks totally when they flipped it sometime in mid-tbc, and aparently the new art team or whatever haven't realized how badly they screwed up, and doesn't seem to be able to fix it.....
Untill they make it like it was in vanilla, this got no value at all for me.. If i get it, i'll prolly just put it in the bank in case they some day realize their huge mistake.

Comment by 680880

especially tauren warr heroic throw BIGGEST HEAD SHOT EVER !

Comment by crazyfaller

So after u dig this up from archaeology and after u reforge it u can actually use it... finally blizz something GM-like but for common players >:D

Comment by foxbuster

Question: Is it possible to dual-wield it with the old version?

Comment by sorsa

So, who else is in the "I'm gona level Archeology pretty much for this babe alone" -club? *raises hand*

Comment by 721945

Hello,
Do i need level 85 to have a chance of "discovering" this item? Or can i do it on level 83 with 430 Archeology? How did it work in beta?

Comment by 554545

since duplicated tasks only occur if you have completed all artifacts of this race and your skill is not stopping you from getting rare artifacts which require higher skill, I assume that doing this will ensure it is your next task once you get 450:

~~Solve the 15th troll common artifact at 445-449~~. If 450 is the requirement to unlock the sword.

Edit: No need to be exactly 15th. just make sure the artifact which brings u to 450 is a troll artifact to avoid waste.
Confirmed lvl 85 is required. I reached 450 skill at 84 but still given those common artifacts, about 100 fragments wasted:(

Comment by 552324

As said on the crafting flavor text:
"It is remarkable that you have been able to reforge it, but also a little troubling: if the Destroyer of Worlds has returned, perhaps the Soulflayer is not far behind."

So we will defintly see a new Zul'Gurub soon.

Comment by nuthouse

/drool

Comment by 263854

I agree with his lack of logic and him getting that comment purged but i also would like to know the answer to the the question: Do you need to be level 85 before you can actually acquire this as one of your projects?

So far i have done NOTHING but archeology since the release and i am currently level 84 just from the XP i am getting from looting artifacts. I have been maxed 525 since i was in 83 and i was over 450 at level 82. As of right now i have ALL of the blue vanity items and both the level 60 and 70 BoA epics and the Skeleton mount as well as the Skeleton and Gnome pets. The only things i have yet to get are any of the level 85 BoA items.

I am actively only working on getting this sword and i just started to think it might not be possible until level 85 and im wasting my time and artifacts. I currently have found ever single common Troll artifact (there are 14 different commons) multiple times for a total of 38.I just did the math i have i have used 1248 troll artifacts. That number would be if i did not use any Troll Tablets, which i did, but i really dont know exactly how many but id fairly accurately guess that i used somewhere around 25. So i actually looted somewhere around 950 Troll artifacts. SO... That means i have cleared about 105 troll dig sites.

So those are my current numbers and i have yet to get the sword project to pop for me. I know its all random and i may be so unlucky that i NEVER see it (god forbid) but its starting to get to the point that im thinking it could be that i just need to hit 85 first and im wasting my artifacts right now. Especially considering since i have gotten every other rare item that does not require level 85. If anyone can actually confirm or let me know if they got it before 85 that would be awesome. Just to be safe im just going to level to 85 before i keep trying

Basically im trying to see if anyone can confirm they have gotten this BEFORE they were level 85 or if someone can give definative proof that it is not possible till 85. Im starting to think i wasted a LOT of troll artifacts....

Edit: I have seen numerous Armory pages that shows the activity of them getting the sword before level 85 and/or 525 so it looks like skill 450 is probably a accurate requirement and 85 is not required. Still dont know the specifics though.

Comment by 263854

I know how archeology works and i know you need to be above 450 skill BUT... Do you need to be level 85 before you actually acquire this as one of your projects?

So far i have done NOTHING but archeology since the release and i am currently level 84 just from the XP i am getting from looting artifacts. I have been maxed 525 since i was in 83 and i was over 450 at level 82. As of right now i have ALL of the blue vanity items and both the level 60 and 70 BoA epics and the Skeleton mount as well as the Skeleton and Gnome pets. The only things i have yet to get are any of the level 85 BoA items.

I am actively only working on getting this sword and i just started to think it might not be possible until level 85 and im wasting my time and artifacts. I currently have found ever single common Troll artifact (there are 14 different commons) multiple times for a total of 38.I just did the math i have i have used 1248 troll artifacts. That number would be if i did not use any Troll Tablets, which i did, but i really dont know exactly how many but id fairly accurately guess that i used somewhere around 25. So i actually looted somewhere around 950 Troll artifacts. SO... That means i have cleared about 105 troll dig sites.

So those are my current numbers and i have yet to get the sword project to pop for me. I know its all random and i may be so unlucky that i NEVER see it (god forbid) but its starting to get to the point that im thinking it could be that i just need to hit 85 first and im wasting my artifacts right now. Especially considering since i have gotten every other rare item that does not require level 85. If anyone can actually confirm or let me know if they got it before 85 that would be awesome. Just to be safe im just going to level to 85 before i keep trying

Basically im trying to see if anyone can confirm they have gotten this BEFORE they were level 85 or if someone can give definative proof that it is not possible till 85. Im starting to think i wasted a LOT of troll artifacts....

Edit(12/17/10): Ok i have seen multiple armor activity pages that shows they acquired this before they got to 525 and/or level 85 so i guess 450 probably is legit but no idea what other requirements. Either way its still a very low random chance and really not worth hoping you are just that lucky. Youll most likely end up like me and find out the hard way that you are NOT. Im currently giving up at just over 210 projects and more hours then i can count and instead getting the T1 PvP weapon that will only take me 2-3 weeks and about 3 hours of actual game play to get. GL to all you stubborn hopefuls

/waves goodbye to the last 10 days of his life

Comment by darclyght

i feel your pain man i dropped 900 troll relics the second i tagged 450 was 84 and no luck tryen to save up again on the grind to 85 but i seem to only gett dwarf now that the twilight highlands are open

Comment by ogmer

Did anybody get it in Cata?
I've solved a lot of troll artifacts, but can't get even after 50+ tries.
So, are there lucky bastards, who have got it? )

Comment by darclyght

im up to 72 turn ins without seeing it did they reduce the drop rate of it by alot or somthing

Comment by 726135

Im lvl 85 and 525 archaeology and have made countless repeated troll items and still no sword...If someone does get anything please fill us in ty

Comment by Wuxmus

I'm sitting at ~100 finished troll projects... It is simply that rare, my best guess is a 1% drop chance.
Well, best non-hardmode weapon ingame, so it's time well spend (that and I actually having fun grinding archaeology)

Comment by Senko

So, from what I've gathered, if you want this sword asap, while having a considerably succesful chance of getting it as soon as your skill hits 450, you may want to try this:

1) Pick up fragments in eastern kingdoms, (troll, dwarf, fossil), don't solve any artifact til 75 skill to utilize the skillups from picking up fragments
2) Solve only dwarf and fossil artifacts while saving up your troll fragments (granted that there is no fragment cap, which I am not aware of)
3) Grind to 450, (somewhat slower than conventional method as you are skipping out solving troll artis)
4) Once at 450, solve all your troll fragments into artifacts, statistics should imply that you'd have over a thousand troll fragments at this point, which can be turned into over 50 artifacts granted you had kept all your troll tablets

The above method again, slows down your skillgain to 450, but in return gives you a chance of getting this mighty weapon from every troll fragment you ever picked up, alternatively you can choose to start saving up troll fragments a bit later, i.e, at 200 skill, or 300, it's really up to you.

If you consider yourself lucky and expect to get the weapon right after hitting 450 with your 1st couple of troll solves, then perhaps this isn't the choice for you.

Comment by 175470

But, vat does eet do?

Comment by sorsa

Post launch: Can anyone confirm a single person, ideally with armory link, that has managed to complete the sword?

Comment by catalystical

A small tip:

Store all your Troll fragments and level off the other solves. When you hit or are close to 450 Archeology, burn them through one shot with the aid of tablets and pray hard. I have 600ish fragments and 20 tablets stored when I started burning through at 419, and got assigned Zin'rokh with ~100 fragments left. It's a good way to make a dash for 525 Archeology too.

Comment by ellmer

LOL, I forgot how the world revolved around you.

Comment by foxbuster

OK, once again. I believe I didn't make myself clear at the first time, so I was downrated...

Is it possible for a Warrior with Titan's Grip to dual-wield this weapon AND the old version of ZG?

Comment by Cromulon

You tried getting it? It's incredibly time consuming and luck based.

Comment by darclyght

can you tell us if you were 85 or not when you got it i know im going to wait till 85 on this alt before i try. i ground my dk to 85 but solved over 40 at 84 with 450 no luck an another 20 at 85 no luck so this toon im taking to 85 and doin 70.

why the new toon well its boa so i might as well get the xp for doin it on another toon.

Comment by Ravenguard10

They're different items. So yes.

Comment by Arkmage

You did make yoursellf clear, people just thought it was a poor/redundant idea..

Comment by 111957

The only thing they have in common is the name and looks.

Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds

different item number makes it possible as they are considered 2 completely different weapons, so yes, you can use both with Titan's Grip

Comment by sorsa

It sounds to me like 1% estimated 'drop' rate sounds about right.

Tip: When researching, ALWAYS use your rare fragments, the spillover is returned as normal fragments and are available right away for the next research, whereas you have to wait for another socketed research before being able to use a rare fragment again.

Comment by sorsa

Tip: When completing an artifact ALWAYS use your keystones when possible, any spillover is paid out as normal fragments and are available for the next solve right away, whereas you have to wait until the next socketed artifact before you can use your keystones again.

Comment by Foereaper

They do not use the same item ID, so yes.

Comment by 263854

Yeah im now at 130 troll projects finished and still havent gotten it so im also guessing probably a 1% chance to get the project

Comment by 626410

On 76th troll artifact created/solved after hitting 525. Everytime I solve a troll artifacts, and the next solve isn't Zin'rokh, a piece of my sould dies : (

Comment by 185317

I can confirm that you can get the 85 epics, though not this one in particular. I got both the healer trinket, and the caster ring at 84. Currently working on this one with over 125 greys done. Decided that I'm not going to do anything else until I get this weapon, even if it means Christmas in front of the computer (though I would probably be here anyway).

Comment by 263854

Also found http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/garrosh/verboten/simple

Comment by dexter98

I leveled archaeology to 450 without using a single troll fragment. By the time I reach 450, I have ~840 fragments and 34 tablets. I started solving troll fragments right away, after 34 attempts I was out of troll fragments and sadly, no Zin'rokh.

I am greatly disappointed and not sure when to do atm. If I give up now, my efforts from the last three days, which 90% of the time were spent on leveling archaeology, would be wasted. If I continue on, I am not sure how long it will take for me to get it, considering few comments here indicating that they have done more than 100 attempts and still no luck.

In order to get 100 attempts, you need~2400 fragments if you have tablets and use them every time when you have the chance. That means ~1560 more fragments for me, and considering that it took me 3 days of full play time to collect 840 fragments, it will take me another ~6 days of full time to gather ~1560 fragments and still there's no guarantee.

I think it would be best if Blizzard can post the chance of getting Zin'rokh, like 1 in 100, or 1 in 200 because that's really what I need right now, to know that if I continue, I will definitely get the sword, not 1 in 1000 chances and never get it. It will greatly boost my desire to collect more fragments, but as of now, that desire is very low, considering how boring archaeology is.

Comment by pudsley

Levelled to 450, saved all troll fragments, hit 525 in minutes from troll solves, no Zin.

2 Days and over 100 solves later and I'm losing the will to live.

What's more the poorly thought out assignment of dig sites is drivingt me up the wall, why should I have to keep visiting Dwarven and Fossil digsites when I have every single item they can offer?

Comment by elementLK

-17 ...

It was an obvious joke,
pre-bc hunters rolled on almost anything

Comment by 242170

Another Idea:

Farming with skill 525 is less effective than with lower skill because of the digsides in Twilight Highlands an Vashjir wich are all not Troll.

What if you don't learn the last skilllevel an stay at 450 through building artefacts? the chance of getting troll digsides is much higher.

Can someone confirm that you don't need a higher skill than 450?

Comment by Amatgnak

I feel the same, I started archeology as soon as servers when up, got server first 450 and 475 , no zin'rokh. I'm disappointed. It would be nice for blizzard once you get all the items solved (including blues) for one race, you should be able to turn those digsites off. I been finished with fossils since the 200's and I get nothing but those. I am very worned down and don't feel like playing the game anymore. I tried to go to kalidor and start tol'vir for the mount , and alchemy recipe but I can't until I have this weapon. So, all of you people you have it within like the first 2 solves, I hate you.

Comment by Kenpally

I don't understand why people still don't get the random drops are random. No matter how you go about this its still what seems to be a 1% solve.

I'm currently leveling in just EK not solving anything anymore until I get what I feel is an appropriate amount of troll frags + tablets combined. I have about 600 frags and 28 tablets which combined is about 900. I will be finishing off to 450 when I get about 2500ish. I'll let you know how that goes but it probably wont be until tomorrow or wed depending on how much I can farm.

-Ken (US Illidan)

P.S. - For anyone new to the farm the best way that I can tell to get troll frags is from EK before 450. If you hit 450 you will activate the Tol'Vir fragment digsites in VJ and TH. While under 450 the digsites are dwarf, fossil and troll. Everytime you finish a digsite it spawns a new one on the continent. Sometimes you get a lot of troll ones, sometimes you don't. I can average about 75 troll frags an hour so the rest of my grind looks to be a solid 20 hours. Hurray.

Tried in northrend after hitting 375. There are NE, Vykrul, Nerub and Troll sites so when you finish one its only 1/4 of being troll where as EK theres just Troll Fossil and Dwarf. Its a long grind so be prepared.

Comment by Balnagghar

Why do you need to be 450+ Skill? There seems to be no basis for that assumption, can I see a source?

Comment by sorsa

You sir might be on to something, if 450 skill is indeed enough to build Zinrokh, then buying Illustrous Grandmaster Archeology just might be quite a bad idea since the Twilight Hinterlands and especially the Vashjir digsites are a true nuisance.

Comment by 731721

Anyone got this?someone can confirm that it is on LIVE realms?

Comment by Brightstar

Going to do my best to minimize leveling while collecting Troll fragments, currently at 450 and am going to simply farm my ass off with Troll stuff, will report back if I get a large enough sampling to do a mass create while <85 to see if I get the Zin and can thus confirm you don't have to be 85 to get it to pop. Then again, I may break down and make sure I'm 85 just in case. We shall see.

Comment by 305828

I'm just posting to tell you how I got the sword.

I was level 85, Basically did nothing but Eastern Kingdoms. Used NONE of my troll fragments till i hit 440 and got too lazy to do the last 2 items... At 440 i had about 1200 artifacts and 48 Tablets. I reached 525 and was down to 400 artifacts and slowly started losing hope, till boom, there it was. If you have any questions feel free to reply.

My Armory : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/Darkspear/Alazuris/simple

Comment by 731721

Oh thanks Deltasquad03 i think thats the best way to get the sword

Comment by aggression

How can people say "You can get it at 450+ already" without even a source that you can?
No point turning them all in until you're 525, then you can be sure that you've done all there is to really have a chance.

So until no one show any proof/source of this being obtainable at 450+, then go for 525.

EDIT: I don't see why ppl downgrade my post. Because there is no single proof about anyone that got the Zin'rokh before 525. No, wowwiki do not count as source as my mom could have written it.

Comment by Panzartar

This is a terrible and boring grind, i've spent over 1000 troll fragments trying to get this sword, and heard that people got it right after they got 450 skill in archeology. As cool as this sword may be, if you don't get it after spending over 1000 fragments, i would give up, it's not worth the hours of time you could spend on grinding materials for the BS weapons.

Comment by Restroombear

I am at around 100 solves after 450.

I have come up with a plan to make this less painful.

I am now gonna start leveling arch on all of my alts saving all my troll fragments until 450 until I get it. As you probably know arch gives xp and I believe you can get from 80-83 just from 1-525 arch?

This, at least for me, will make grinding all this arch feel a little more rewarding until I find the sword. Not to mention this will eliminate the vash/twilight dig sites as well.

Edit: and hey! maybe get some extra mounts for your alts. SAVE YOUR SOUL! I almost lost mine.

Comment by Sawedoffsob

This is a BFS. In a FPS's eyes.

Comment by 732536

and yet I have to see any proof that the 450 skill is required, where did he get this info, from a gamemaster ?

Comment by aggression

Only bad thing with your way to do it is, it will take looong time to get to 450. So if you don't have a mage, I'd suggest you keep on farming them on your main.

Comment by Restroombear

Yeah, it will take a while - but overall it gives you more chances at zin in a smaller amount of time, while leveling your alts at the same time

Comment by 733159

does anyone know exactly the % this item has to be "discovered"? because I got mine on the third try and I just wanna know exactly how high % that is

Comment by Balnagghar

Hour 37 of Arching after level 450. Troll solve # 83. 1 question for Ghostcrawler... Wtf did I ever do to you?

Comment by darclyght

well thats it for me 3400 troll fragements and no zin rohk sword isnt work another minute of my life

Comment by archmagee

Silly tauren in the screenshot is holding his sword upside down

Comment by 672028

I'm 525 and only completed about 15 common troll artifacts after 450 because I was dumb and didn't save my troll fragments for 450. I keep getting too many Dwarf, Fossil, and Night Elf dig sites in Eastern Kingdoms presently.

Any tips?

I'm thinking blizzard might need to change something. We shouldn't be forced to do those 3 while Outlands only has two. Even if they keep 4 together, I still go through too many of those sites just to get to a troll. Before 450 I was getting a lot of Troll.

Comment by Astarot

Server first 450 and 525, 140+ hours farming EK for trolls after 525, 105 troll solves.

What did i ever do to you blizzard?

Comment by PHOENIXZERO

*twitch* Used all my troll fragments (had well over a 1,000 and I know it's not a lot in the grand scheme of things) at like 469, maxed it and then some... Got nothing.

Now while still going crazy and farming around getting the troll sites back, I finally break down and do the dwarf artifact that I've had since I've been building up since and after two common artifacts that required two keystones I get Staff of Sorcerer - Thane Thaurissan.... *twitches* I only had a bit over 100 fragments at this point btw so it wasn't like I did a large amount in a row.

I guess my druid has a nice weapon when I get him to 85. >_>

Thinking we all would be best off to wait until 525.... And I might be crazy but artifacts with two keystone slots might mean a higher chance for a rare on the next one... But seeing as none of the troll ones have this, I don't know...

Had some Night Elf ones too that I decided to use and that's resulted in artifact with two keystones... Bet I'll get another rare. <_<

EDIT AGAIN: I was right, just finished Unbra Cresent and the next artifact was the Kaldorei Wind Chimes. I think Blizz is trolling us with Trolls not having any two keystone slot Common items.

Comment by pipboy650

I'm up to 2612 troll fragments used equal to roughly 85 solves or so. While farming for this from the very beginning (I lvled from 81-85 farming fragments) i've only gotten 2 pets, 4 random bull*!@# items, the and .

Still trying to get this bad boy for my paladin, and congratulations too thoose who got it already :)

Comment by pipboy650

I'm up to 2612 troll fragments used equal to roughly 85 solves or so. While farming for this from the very beginning (I lvled from 81-85 farming fragments) i've only gotten 2 pets, 4 random bull%^&* items, the Fossilized Raptor and Wisp Amulet

Still trying to get this bad boy for my paladin, and congratulations too thoose who got it already :)

Comment by Wreden

Can someone confirm that you only need 450 to get this item? And if that is the case, wouldn't it be easier to stay at 450/450 since you don't need to go to vashj'ir or twilight highlands to digg?

Please confirm. Im about to get to 450 and I really want to know if I should stay at 450 or go to 525. I only want this item so it would help alot.

Comment by pudsley

Still going strong here, over 200 troll solves thus far and no Zin, be warned. (that's approximately 7000 fragments working on 35 per solve (sometimes less, sometimes more).

I'm at 525 skill, saved all my troll solves for 450+.

If you have my kind of luck you may be at this a very long time.

Comment by 734089

I just want to know if it's discoverable before level 85. I'm leveling my 2nd archeologist because my 1st is maxed with no luck on the sword, and troll dig sites are rare now that I am stuck going to Vash and highlands. My mage is 82, with 1k frags and 28 tablets. But I don't want to solve things unless I know I'll have a shot at it not being 85.

Comment by 734089

Can you discover this before level 85? I'm working on my 2nd archeologist, since my Warrior is maxed and had no luck and also because the troll dig sites hardly appear anymore now that I have to go to Vash and highlands. I have well over 1000 frags and 30 tablets on my mage, I just want to know if I should get to 85 first before solving my troll artifacts.

Comment by Kenpally

Well today was my big day. Farmed ~2800 frags before using my dwarf and fossil to hit 525. Did 84 solves at 525 and got nothing. Fun. :/

Comment by chironfeld

I can confirm that even if you don't train into Illustrious Grand Master Archaeology, digsites will show in in Vashj'ir and Twilight Highlands at 450 skill.

*edit* Clarifying skill level

Comment by 734649

Isn't it possible to just stay at artisan or master? I currently have 270/300 in skill and after reading that there will be less troll zones if I skill up higher, why not just save ALL fragments?
When I have alot of fragments, buy new ranks and level up before I spend my troll fragments.

Or is there a downside to this tactic that I haven't thought of?

Comment by 734667

I can confirm you can get this as early as lvl 75.

Comment by Invitalis

If you are going for this sword there are a few very important things.

Grind Eastern Kingdoms only. Save all Troll fragments and Keystones.

Get to 375 with Dwarf, Fossil and Night elf fragments you find in E.K. and then STOP SOLVING.

This will ensure you get the maximum fragments per dig (up to 6 per loot) but will avoid getting stupid/annoying sites in Vashir etc.

Once you have thousands of troll fragments, solve your Dwarf, Fossil and NE and skill up to 450.

Then cross fingers and profit :)

Comment by 731721

Used 2104 troll fragments+52 troll tablets to solve after 525,NO Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds.Fun times -.-

Comment by 731721

Used 2104 troll fragments+52 troll tablets to solve after 525,NO Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds.Fun times -.-

Comment by Foereaper

Got this beauty today a couple minutes ago, spent 3 days farming, had about 1200 Troll Fragments and 30 Tablets. Was so happy when I saw it pop up at about 400-500 fragments left, and that's the ONLY troll rare I've gotten.

Comment by Velasco

Zin'Rokh is currently the only troll rare artifact implemented in the game available through Archeology.

Perhaps a future patch will bring more troll goodies.

Edit: To the downvoters: Did you consider the fact, that this comment was made when version 4.0.3 was live, where Zin'rokh was indeed the only rare troll artifact?

Comment by Paulderak

Flipping the sword edge was bad idea. Very bad idea. It looks ugly and wrong. And knowing blizzard, I wouldn't bet on the sword returning to it's original look.

Comment by Lombra

Not sure to whom you replied, but mudcatred didn't say anything about how common it's gonna be. Only that it's entry level raid item level, which is correct.

Comment by smellyead

After 2 days at 450+, and having spent over 1500 trol fragments, I've still not got it yet. I'm starting to lose the will to live now, since Cata zones on EK screw over your troll sites.

If anyone knows if its better to farm on Northrend than EK for roll fragments please say so :D

Comment by 356379

Wonder how many swords I could make out of all these teeth...

Comment by pudsley

As for the person who wanted me to link achievments for the 200 troll solves? what exactly is the point of that?

There isn't any achievements for how many you solve, the 100 common solves (Diggerest) is also referring to different solves since I have never done archeology outside of Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdoms I'm stuck at 73/100.

Short of having to screenshot each mouseover tooltip for each of the 14 common troll artifacts in the game there really is no way of me proving how many solves I've done, suffice to say I hit 85 in around three days and have spent almost every hour not spent sleeping, bathing or excercising doing archeology for Zin'Rokh, I'm just that stubborn.

So, believe me or don't belive me, I'm going to keep going until I get it then, maybe I will do a you tube video showing the total troll solves just for the hell of it.

Fun Fact : Troll Dinnerware is my most common solve, I set a table to feed an army at present.

Have also done more Dwarven solves than troll at this point, seen no staff either, so casters have it pretty bad as well.

Comment by 734476

I spent the last few days farming for this and just when I was about to give up hope, got this as my next solve. Looks like I got very lucky. Since the profession is extremely time consuming I didn't save any fragments while leveling, and it took me about 20-30 troll solves after I hit 450 to get the sword as my next solve. Now that you can get 3 to 6 fragments per dig, it should make getting the sword easier although I dont know the exact % of the drop rate.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/shattered-hand/solarcyn/simple

Comment by 734208

well gratz im also about to quit hope to get lucky like U :)

Comment by 438538

Should be renamed "Zin"rokh, Destroyer of time" :/

Comment by jmcmasterj

All I have done since hitting level 85 is level archaeology. I saved all of my troll fragments (over 1000) and tablets (~20). I started solving around 440 and got Zin'rokh before i hit 525.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/mcmaster/simple

Comment by Sarne

Got it on my 3rd troll solve after hitting 450. Saved up all my troll fragments while leveling.

Comment by 735736

After a week of constant 12+ hour a day farming of Archaeology, it finally popped up in my book after a troll solve in Tanaris. Used Death Gate to port to Eastern Kingdoms to farm fragments and when I got there it had disappeared from my book... replaced with a common. Now I get to wonder if the game will think I've already solved it, thus never finding it again.

/sigh

Comment by Seref

660 Troll Fragments and 19 Tablets... No Zin'Rokh... /cry

Comment by gomjabar

How do you check troll solves? ive checked achieves but cant find anything?

Comment by 735736

There is no way of keeping track. People that tell you how many they've solved are either pulling those numbers out of their butt or actually kept track themselves.

I don't know how many solves I've done, but I have nearly every achievement. Missing only 3 more rares for the final achievement. I have well over 3,000 fossil fragments saved up because there is simply no reason to do those solves. I have been digging about 12-16 hours per day for over a week. At this point I would probably keel over from a heart attack if I knew the actual number of solves I've completed.

Comment by 735736

Ouch! 305 Troll solves... Someone please shoot me.

Comment by 343219

Do you think that is a reason to cry? You can farm that in a lazy afternoon.
After 3 evenings Im at 1000 something fragments and 41 tablets. And I am deffinatly sure that wont be enough.

Ill probably save up till 2k and 100 tablets to start my run, if I get it after 2 solves, sucks to be me.

Comment by 263854

~~Unless you have a SS showing your skill is under 525 then i would wager that you are just trying to piss people off.~~

Ok i have seen a armor activity page that shows they acquired this before they got to 525 so i guess 450 probably is legit. Still a very low random chance, currently giving up at just over 200 projects and getting the T1 PvP weapon that will take me 2 weeks and about 3 hours of game play to get.

/waves goodbye to the last 10 days of his life

Comment by GregerMoek

Worst thing about being 525; More Dwarf dig sites will spawn because of Twilight Highlands.
It's so very annoying! At least that's what I've observed, maybe this is wrong but I doubt it.

Wyrm's Bend is probably the worst digsite ever.

Edit: Now also Vashj'ir digsites, didn't see that before. Even moar painful.
Be sure to farm fragments before you hit 450 and stay there untill you have 5k fragments or something. >.<

Comment by LocutuS

well. the original zin'rokh was pretty good for hunters :P it wasnt a str sword

Comment by 331303

Was lucky enough to get this. I tried my luck and started solving these when I got to level 450. had about 1500+ fragments and maybe 45 tablets, skilled up all the way to 525 and finally got it as my next solve with about 400 fragments left. I can confirm you dont need to be level 85 to get a shot at this, I was about 50% through level 84. Still yet to confirm if it is possible to get this before level 525 archaeology sadly.

Comment by 263854

Here is some hopefully helpful information and thoughts for anyone considering trying to start this right now. Actually, this is more of a cautionary warning...

This is by far the worst grind and most painful and frustrating thing i have ever done. With other grinds, even as mindless and tedious as they might be you at least know when you will be done and how many kills or items you still need to collect and can at some point see the light at the end of the tunnel. But not with this. Yes it may not be hard to do and you have no competition... but there is no guarantee you will EVER get it! At a certian point you start to almost hold your breath and then cringe every time you solve a troll project and do not see what you were hoping for. And every time you see a dig site pop up in AJ or TH you want to just punch someone from blizzard.

The only reason i was so intent on getting it, and doing it fast, was to get a huge jump on the PvP season. But now that the season has started i find out that you can get an equal weapon in the second to third week of Conquest point collection and it makes me even more furious that i wasted so much time on this. The fact that this weapon is BoA gives it some extra worth and being able to give an alt a boost when you first level them is nice, but if you know anything about wow you can almost guarantee there will be other items released that are better and easier to obtain with-in a few months. With most items that take a lot of time and effort they usually are top of the line and hold up for a while, which is what i though this would be... but there are already numerous other 2hers that are much easier to obtain and are much less of a gamble if you will actually ever get it or not such as the PvP weapons which are just as good and guaranteed.

The fact that Archeology is random with EVERY aspect (dig site spawns, project chance, token drops) makes farming for this pretty much a HUGE gamble of just wasting a LOT of your time.

After wasting the last 10 days of my life i truly think that archeology is very poorly executed and broken as far as reward and enjoyment of your time spent and i hope that it is drastically changed soon. So unless you just LOVE wow lore and stupid vanity items(with way to long of a CD btw) or you really dont care about wasting countless hours in the hopes of being one of the lucky few then dont even bother till they change it.

I know this post might get down rated and purged but unless you really disagree with what i said then please dont down rate this. I hope that you and others at least have a chance to read this and possibly heed my warning. This really can be incredibly demoralizing and infuriating and make you want to just quit wow and ruin all the other amazing things they did with cataclysm... and this probably will be the case for you too. So honestly consider this before you get all pumped up thinking you are going to start Archeology and plan to get this weapon. But if you still are going to go for it then... Good luck! because that is all this is, pure chance, but im done getting TROLLED by Blizz!(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##hatman555##DELIM##

Comment by Osmigos

I saved troll fragments until I hit 525 and got this in just 3 projects. I think being the only troll rare item really helps the chances.

Comment by jmcmasterj

I believe it. If you look at my armory recent activity you will see that I got Zin'rokh before hitting 525.

Comment by 263854

Well that started getting down rated fast lol. I should know better then try to actually help anyone who plays wow...but from the time i spent trying to get this sword i apparently love wasting my time.

By GregerMoek 1 hr 41 min ago (Patch 4.0.3)
Yea, the randomness is too intense in this profession. I'd like the spawn sites less random at least, possibly something like... Whenever you dig troll artifacts another troll digsite appears on the map while having a fixed number of race-digsites. I guess this would make it too easy to level up though...

It definitely is the randomness that makes this so maddening. And for being an ILLUSTRIOUS GRAND MASTER Archeologist you would think you could chose what type of artifact you are hunting for. I wouldnt mind the fact that i still havent gotten it and that its a random chance to get this project if i didnt have to clear 8 Dwarf sites and and 4 fossil sites and fly up and down the continent twice before i get to do 1 troll dig site.

You should be able to pick what type you are collecting, its still a random chance to get the right project if they want to make it more difficult they could just have active sites at one time and/or even travel between all the continents while searching for specific artifacts to get a new specific site. Its making me pick up 2k+ fossil/dwarf artifacts that i dont even need and never am going to use. It would be like having to need to pick up herbs before a mining node will spawn, herbs that are grey and vendor for 0g.

Comment by 263854

Compared to how much most people are farming to try to get this right now and still nothing, yes that is... which is ridiculous.

Comment by 736279

2600 Troll fragments and over 80 Troll keystones after 450 and nothing. This is literally the most luck-based find in all of WoW. If you managed to find it in under 1500, consider yourself the luckiest person you know, and go buy a lottery ticket.

Comment by AjaxDesperados

I didnt save troll fragments and i going mad of this. Now, with 525 digging troll's areas is more tougher with more locations is available in Eastern Kingdoms. Can i reset my skill? Omg...

Comment by Soji

I'm aiming to do Archaeology purely for this item.

My plan (correct me if my thinking is wrong):

Dont skill Archaeology past 100 purposefully as it unlocks other possible digging sites(increasing the chance of Troll sites).
Save all fragments, especially from Troll.
Solve all except Troll at the same time when a large amount of fragments have been obtained.
Solve all Troll last and hope to RNG the item.

Does anyone see a problem with that method?

Comment by AjaxDesperados

So, I suck.... Nice profession. Stupid Blizzs burn in hell!

Comment by 355804

Am I correct in assuming that because the sword isn't Unique-Equipped and is Bind to Account, you could have an 85 Warrior dual-weilding 2 of these, provided to were lucky enough to have it 'drop' as a project on 2 characters?

Comment by Arrent

This item is actually harder to farm fragments for past 450, since EK gains 2 digsites in each Vashj'ir and Twilight Highlands.

I guess I got lucky though, 15-20 Troll Projects since I hit 450 and I'm making it now.

Comment by 355804

Ok, thats kool. I thought that only applied to Unique-equipped, but I checked this.

Comment by 736605

Aah, 68 solves and counting! Maybe I put numbers for tomorrow lottery too!

Comment by 736636

ok so i just found out that items do repeat even though you havent completed all the other possible commons.

Comment by PHOENIXZERO

I'm up to 88 solves, not going to do any more until I have enough fragments to reach 100, if I don't get it with that I think I'm going to have myself committed. I seem to be getting rares from everything BUT Troll... Makes me wonder if the rare rate is just that much out of whack with other categories..

I wish I could give up but I'm not going to let Blizzard's RNG gods beat me. >_<

Comment by 263854

Well like i said i wast trying to talk trash, its just hard for me believe someone has that many more done when i have done nothing but archeology for almost the entire day every day. I just wanted others to know that it really takes a long LONG time and the process of collecting the troll projects is very slow going.

Comment by Lenus

I believe that a lot of ppl, try to research about this thing.
only 1 thing I can say that, This is seriously hard , rare and RNG

i capture a vdo when i solve 8XX trolls only artifact since my skill was 470
and result is .......
here my vdo link on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LXnCDI-Vk

i recommend anyone who are not start doing archaeology yet, go find something else to do. it very time consuming and hopeless sometime.

gg

Comment by Lenus

Comment by 510610

i recomend for anyone lvling archeology to get 100-450 solving only fossiles. cuz if ur aiming for the 20 rare solves its the best way. maybe solving some nightelf wont hurt becuse u will fly around in kalimdor alot for tol'vir. but if you want the trinket or something else from nightelfs. dont solve them ofc.

trust me. it takes alot longer to lvl like that. maybe 3 tiems longer. but its worth it.

becuse. you really dont wanna survey in eastern kingdom after 450. it sucks balls.

the reason i started to think about this is only becuse of the reason that fossiles only got 2 rares. and u get them early on, and u can only get them once.
so id like to think that ur chance of getting something good is higher when u start solving something else.

Comment by 730079

I saved 900 dwarf and 1500 troll frags, plus 30-40 charms each, used them at 485 and got 2 blue items from dwarf and jack @#$% for troll. $%^& lady luck in her dirty ass.

Comment by Hean

Just because it's a joke, doesn't mean it's a good one.

Comment by Heph

Has ANYONE gotten this at 525? I hope it's not a case like the JC trinkets that wouldn't drop once you're 85.

Everyone who has gotten it so far seems to have been between 450 and 525.

I saved all my troll fragments and am now at over 150 artifacts solved at 525 for troll. FML.

Comment by makzmakz

This would be very interesting to know, leveling my alt with arch now since I failed at it with my main with 1600 fragments. If idd it's bugged at 525, you might wanna stay at 450 while solving...

Comment by makzmakz

Btw, does anyone here know if there is a difference in the troll spawn rate whether or not you constantly farm the troll sites with highest priority? I.e. is it worth travelling all the way down to Stranglethorn if there is a troll site there, even though there are several dwarf etc. just where you are?

Comment by ethicaodini

Top 10 reasons you'll end up committing suicide before obtaining Zin'Rokh

10. You haven't spoken to your significant other since Level 1 archaeology.
9. Red, Green, Green, Green, Green... WAIT WTF WHAT HAPPENED TO YELLOW?
8. You used to like dwarves but now absolutely hate the dwarven race and anyone who plays it.
7. You leveled past 450 not realizing that you'll now have to dig in Vash'jir.
6. You leveled to 450 including using troll fragments.
5. You are overjoyed when you see anything in STV.
4. You realize that digsite that just popped in STV is the fossil one, you begin to throw things.
3. You leveled to 525 on or before 12/9 and still working at it.
2. One of your friends links Zin'Rokh in guild chat with the words "sweet" or "yay"
1. RNG, RNG, RNG AAAAAAAAAH!

Good luck! I know I'm still working on it.

Comment by tapoo

Unless its a dwarf with 310% speed i dont think its worth the time. You will get less frag than digging with a 525

Comment by 492590

Why was anyone expecting it to be easy to get the best weapon in the game from a secondary profession that requires you to right click a sparkle? After completing The Insane achievement pre-nerf, farming this weapon is like a vacation.

Comment by ledbullet

i got mine today :D. I am 525 skill and have solved about 100 artifacts total. about 20 troll. i didn't use any special farming tactics just kept digging whilst in the 30 min dps dungeon queues and got it that way.

Comment by Geddeh

No, It will say "Requires Runeforging" which is a skill only DKs can attain.

Additionally, if you send it to your DK with an enchant on it and runeforge it afterwards, you'll lose the enchant. (works vice versa, also)

Otherwise there are no restrictions to enchants for this weapon yet.

Comment by foroli

&*!@ you

Comment by 510610

really dont solve any troll or dwarf fragments until u have 2k of each. eastern kingdom is a nightmare after 450

Comment by Blackbeardswe

Any warriors wet dream, including mine.

Got 44 troll artifacts atm still no drop.
And yes like a previous poster I hate dwarves, i hate nelfs, and i hate, i hate!, I HATE! vashjir.

Comment by sylderion

Hello there, one question... you can put a rune in this two handed sword as Death knight with Runeforging?
Becouse this is a Bind on account item :S

edit: ok just saw a guy with it, i was worry about it, nvm and Good Luck!

Comment by 737953

Just got this after an incredible luck streak with this proff. I found myself with the mount and 5 other rares before hitting 445. At this point i had just over 1000 troll pieces saved up and wasnt sure if i should go for it or save up another 1k aftter reading about people not getting it after 200 + solves. I went ahead anyway and had it come up after only 5 solves leaving me with over 800 troll pieces left and 28 tablets.

All i can say is dont give up, because the damage increase of this weapon compared to the 346 blues is huge not to mention its incredible looks. Im chuffed to get this less than 2 weeks into the expansion will last a looong time.

Comment by Kenpally

Did 84 solves at 525 from saving frag. Been going at it the past few days and another 50 solves, still nothing doing. Lame.

Comment by 217667

I had 4000 fragments and 101 tablets. Used all at 525.

Went through em all. Nothing. Cutting off my right man parts because it's less painful.

Used 1600 dwarf frags + 35 rune stones @ 525 and nothing for that either.

Comment by Random771452

why should I have to keep visiting Dwarven and Fossil digsites when I have every single item they can offer?

you have http://www.wowhead.com/item=64489] from dwarf sites already? Getting that is just as hard as Zin, along with any of the others. Give it to your caster alts, it's gona be difficult to replace that too

Comment by 258138

Total solves:

Dwarf: 94
Fossil: 39
Night Elf: 21
Troll: 145

No Zin'rokh or Staff yet. I know I should just give up and do something else. But it kills me knowing how much time I have invested with nothing to show for it.

Comment by uranux

Believe me if I say this is not a 1% chance ... probably a 0,6% or something ..

In a while i will resolve something around 10000 fragments and 250 troll tablet .. if the result will be negative .. i think i'll have something to say and write on Blizzard Forum

Comment by 687753

This is the method I am using to obtain this:

1) Dig solely in EK.
2) Level archaeology to 100 by digging alone.
3) Solve all fossil, NE, and dwarf artifacts until 375 (you can get 6x per dig @ 375)
4) Stop solving and obtain at least 500 (I'm going for 1000) of both dwarf and fossil fragments.
5) Use the fossil to level first, followed by the dwarf to hit 450+.
6) Use your 3000+ saved troll frags.
7) Cross fingers and profit.

Good luck!

Comment by makzmakz

Just figured out one important thing.

While digging, make sure to always dig the troll sites with the highest priority. This will "unlock" that site to be spawned again, and that can happen as soon as your next dig site is dug (lol the gramar?).

Comment by Malthael

Just used the tip to save all the Troll fragments untill 450 - then skill on it to 525. Had a total of around 2400 troll saved up, and only got crap from it. Going to continue farming for the sword, since I've been farming for way too long to give up now. I really feel sorry for the rest of you that haven't gotten it yet.

Comment by furyform

Got it on my druid, now I just need an alt to use it :s haha

As for completing the weapon, the archaeology data for completing it sheds some possibly interesting info :) I just don't feel like spoiling it

Comment by Momentum

can anyone confirm if it is possible to get to skill 450 and just not buy the upgrade to 525. then solve all your troll stuff and get the sword.

i mean if you dont use the higher skills u wont open the rest of the sites and thus can farm away in EK but i`m not sure if it will increase decrease the chance to get this sword.

Comment by 738512

ive seriusly been farming this thing for 4 days straight Still no succes...

Comment by 362823

Got it yesterday: 150 troll artifacts. Uploading a screenshot also, had bout 450 skill when it showd up in my archeology.

Comment by makzmakz

~~Ok there is still noone in this thread that can prove that they got it at skill 525. Starting to think that is is bugged in the same way that the jc-trinkets were.~~

~~- All of the success stories so far have gotten it between 450-524.~~

~~- All the fail stories (you guys who have been solving 2k+ fragments) have been at 525 a long time.~~

~~Please, if anyone can confirm that they got it AT 525 I would be very thankful.~~

EDIT: This was wrong, since Alazuris got it at 525.

Comment by Komby

128 artifacts solved, 61 on my Death Knight, 67 on my warrior after I realised you cant farm for s*** above 450. Spendt around 30 hours straight on my warrior, 1766 frags and 44 tablets on my warrior alone. Not a single f****** thing on him either. Around 4500 frags in total from both if you count the keystones.

I even grinded to Field Marshal in vanilla, atleast there, it was a f****** reward in the end. Whats my reward for this? A !@#$ty mount thats gonna be as unpopular as the retarded horse?

Way to go blizz, you made me quit this game for good. Brilliant new profession. Just on par with this whole terrible expansion. Hope you lose half of the people who bought Cata for this single profession alone, and you will deserve it.

Comment by 43311

ALMOST anything? Man, they rolled on Everything.

Comment by TNC420

Been farming this since Arch came out I have found 12 rares and not this. Starting to lose hope.

Edit: I have established that I'll probably get all the other rares all the achievement grow old and die before I get this.

Still gonna try lolol xP

Comment by GulDAnWar

Soooo, I just turned in my 1700 troll artefacts when I hit 450 skill, as expected nothing. However the master question is now, how do you guys keep farming troll stuff when you are at 525?

EK proves rather %^&*ty imho, with twilight and Vashj'ir in the play

Comment by 709990

Blizzard tied you down and forced you to level Archaeology and try to farm this sword? That's rough.

Comment by GulDAnWar

Yeah figured that much, trying to get rares from NE/Dwarf/Tolvir for titles and funs and maybe they will remove completed races digsites at some point in the future :P

Comment by DivineOne

Must have been lucky then. For me it was troll project nr 27 :).

Comment by pibbz

Here is the proof that you can get it after 450 skill.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8070/hihiih.jpg

Comment by gamemaster3000

And you got it as a priest, too! **shakes fist**

Comment by 739019

Lol yep...wow, over 200. I'm currently at 76 and it's driving me insane, been maxed at 525 since the 10'th.

Comment by gomjabar

get the mod Archy...so much better grinding

Comment by 735792

Reading the previous post I realized that I'm lucky: I got the sword after solving around 70-75 troll artifacts. It is a hard work to get it and considering that some people finished over 100 troll artifacts I think it's safe to presume that the drop rate is below 1%.

But: DON"T GIVE UP!....it's worth the hassle.

Comment by 457442

over 1300 fragments used, 35 keystones and no sword, at level 85 with 525 arch, sigh..^&*! isnt worth it, big waste of time..

Comment by 254368

I just got this bad boy last night. Had about 850 fragments and 37 tablets. The sword popped up on my second to last solve. I was at 525 skill. I took a SS for proof.

http://img255.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot121910200728.jpg/]

Comment by 288456

Here's a quick guide that I made while reading the comments here and my own in-game experience. There's two methods here you can use. These steps below are best used in Eastern Kingdoms.

Method 1:

Farm all fragments and don't solve any troll fragments from skill level 1. This is probably the best way to obtain as many troll fragments as possible, but unfortunately it's also the slowest since you'll rely only on Dwarf and Fossil artifacts to level.

Method 2:

Farm all fragments and solve all artifacts until level 375. At about level 375, the maximum fragments you can earn per dig site increases to 18 instead of 15. Earning a max of 3 more per digsite makes a difference. Personally, I chose this method because the other method was painstakingly slow and I needed to see some progress.

Whichever method you choose is up to you, just make sure you have farmed about 1500 - 2000 troll fragments by the time you get to 450.

Steps:

1) Level archaeology to level 100 by collecting fragments, but don't solve the artifacts until after 100. You receive skillups for each fragment you pickup while under 100, so use that to your advantage because after 100, you don't get any skillups.
2) After 100, level up archaeology to level 445 by using either method 1 or method 2.
3) Once you're at 445, keep farming until you have enough troll fragments to solve ~100 artifacts. This should be about 1500 to 2000 fragments. Do not level past 450 until you collect enough troll fragments! Once you hit 450, digsites in Twilight Highlands and Vash'jir become active. These sites are huge and take away from troll digsites, so you want to avoid them while you're still farming troll fragments.
4) Once you've got enough fragments, solve them all. Be sure to use the troll tablets on every artifact you can! If you run out, buy some from the AH or a friend. Don't solve any artifacts without a tablet because this will only use more fragments. Solving all the troll artifacts should easily hit you to 525.
5) If you're lucky, you'll get Zin'rokh in the above step. If you don't get it and still want to pursue it, try farming troll fragments in Northrend. It'll be much harder now, but not impossible.

Comment by gomjabar

pibbz that screen is interesting. cause the question is can you get it at 450 without advancing arch past 450. But your right at 450 and you did advance. Did you get it, then advance it?

Comment by TomBombadil

Archeology Anonymous:

Hello, my name is George and I'm an addict.

I started off leveling Archeology trying to kill time in between raids, since my guild were slackers and couldn't level or gear up as fast as I did. I never read any guides, just picked it up, figured out I should dig up to 100 and then solve, solved everything after 100 just to get skill faster. I was hoping to get the tol'vir bug mount, maybe, nothing else.

I leveled up to 450 in 2 days and went to dig my first Uldum dig site ... got Ring of the Boy Emperor as my first project. My main's a warlock so ... I got hooked. I managed to complete it in 4 hours, with some luck and insane digging in Kalimdor.

So I went online and checked what the other epics are. Obviously the staff and Zin'Rokh caught my eye.

I already had 525 archeology so I found out how screwed I am with EK digsites. I tried digging for 2 days but Vashj'ir finally cracked my sanity.

So now I am leveling my alt (warr) through Archeology only. Digging in EK only, saving up all troll & dwarf, gonna solve only fossil and the few NE.

I know some suggest you should prospect dwarf until 375 so you can unlock the 3-6 fragment drop rate, but that basically screws your chances at the staff. Since I want both the staff and the sword (or at least either, yet I am THAT greedy :p), I'd rather do it with fossil only. Besides the difference between 3-5 and 3-6 is only 1 fragment on average per dig site. (since 3-6 can only drop 3, 4 or 6, but not 5).

Started today and as of now I have ~350 dwarf, ~300 troll and ~300 fossil. Gonna reach 375 with fossil and see how many troll&dwarf I have then.

Comment by 570472

I got very lucky on my Zin'rokh.
As soon as I hit 450, I started spam-solving troll artifacts. Zin'rokh got rolled after only 6 solves.

Good luck to all those hunting this awesome entry-level raid weapon! Stick with it.

Comment by 731721

3100 Troll Fragments 80 Tablets used and NOTHING.gg really FUN profession

Comment by 739815

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv7JPDwwuCw

I have a hunch. Since they started implementing the "transmuting in zone x gets you element y" in alchemy, i figured solving artifacts in certain spots might affect (effect?) what you discover. So i did this in a troll dig site to be safe.

Comment by 739868

I just got this! I watched Mooglelord's video and caved in and solved 1800 of my 2400 fragments. I was also in a troll survey site as recommended by Mooglelord. After 450 skill, I've solved approximately 3500 fragments to successfully obtain the sword with 600 fragments leftover.

Comment by linkhyrule

Good riddance nub. Pretty pathetic that THIS made you quit.

Comment by thedevilmyself

Yes, let this be a warning to anyone considering pursuing this sword. I have been at it for 2 days as well, completed over 50 troll artifacts (all after 450) and am still on the hunt. This takes forever and i'm doubting myself lately and yes, losing my sanity.

PS thankfully while i was typing this deathwing just put me in my place by a mid-air collision with him. rofl. Stood in the flames my ass - the flames stood on ME!

King Knub

Comment by Ultimos

As im sure you all know by now when you have a rare item in your queue the fragments from that race become rarer than usual, my method for maximizing the amount of fragments i get from trolls was simple, bring rares into the queue for all the races besides troll 2/4 sites were always troll for me after i did this. Good Luck! (I got this sword after 4000 fragments and 100 troll tablets, it took 3 full days to farm all of this but considering the speed on this and its current stats even the sword from nefarian wont replace it, in fact this is BiS until heroics IMO for a UH dk)

Comment by Mellro

i remember when people had this back in classic woW im glad they brought it back and ressurected it form the dead glad they didnt change model either! :D

Comment by drakoz

Does anyone know if you have to be level 85 to get ZR to pop up?

Comment by Atrea

I received this item a few days ago, after quite a few Troll solves. (I didn't count them.)

I can confirm that you can get it after reaching 525 skill, so there is no truth to the "Can't acquire at higher than 450 skill" nonsense.

Comment by 656149

What i did was that i leveled from 0-450 without using 1 troll fragment or troll tablet- and started solving when i hitted 450.
I got it after 9 solves- ( 495 skill ) had 1700more troll fragments to use and a 51 tablet soo kinda sucked:p

Armory is http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodfeather/runosaurus/simple

Comment by 739693

First char, main, solved ~2000 frags past 450, no drop.

Second char, lvld to 83½ from 80 thru arch, ~2000 frags past 450, no luck.

Third char, since im not really a fan of alts, currently leveling thru arch from 70, 73 and counting atm.
will get her to 85 thru arch and solve the frags i have then, currently at ~1k frags, 5-7k at 85 perhaps.
I'd rather grind for the insane again twice then go thru this for no reward.

It will all be worth it when It finally pops tho.

best of luck to everyone else farming for this, lets hope xmas comes early =)

Comment by Goraki

This reminds of my first epic I ever gotten. I was carried through ZG on my old warrior, now I have to redeem myself on my new warrior and get the new one.

Edit: So, This will show something, I'm not going to stop farming it, and it is 9:35 (P.M)... and I'm not stopping until I get it, and I've already done 35 troll archs, so wish me luck :D

Comment by Kirbymorph

If you want to get this "easier", save all troll fragments until you are 450 and only skill up/solve the other ones until then.

Comment by Ripez

@Mooglelord

I would like to know, was the troll dig site "active" where you were. Just wondering cuz all tips to have beter chances to get this will be used ;)

Edit: To others who got Zin'rokh already: When u got this to ur solve table did you make your last solve at troll digsite or did it happen somewhere else like in Orgrimmar? And if it happened at troll digsite was the digsite active or not?

Comment by 182004

I finally received this in my project book after a week of spending 5-10 hours a day doing nothing but Archaeology. I power rushed Archaeology to 450 and saved all of my troll fragments; I had 1250 fragments saved up. I used them all, and had no Zin'rokh. So I spent the next few days continuing getting troll fragments. I think I had to clean up Vash'jir for EK about 20+ times, drove me nuts. But this is mainly words of encouragement: how bad do you want it? Keep working hard, and it will eventually show up in your project book.

Here's a picture because everyone loves pictures:
http://i53.tinypic.com/qxqqub.jpg

Good luck everyone, and don't give up. It's definitely worth the investment of time.

Comment by zarbuchan

Waiting for an ancient Warrior hero who played in classic to obtain this and dual wield the 60 and 85 versions.

Comment by 741426

Ok so I leveled 81-85 almost purely off of archeology, except for the occasional dungeon run for sanity sake. I had roughly 2000 troll fragments. I used them all and no luck, I had to take a break to gear up for raids then the last 8 days i've been at it again and tracking how many fragments i farm each day and using them at the end of each day. I have used just over 6500 fragments at this point in time, I have every dwarf and fossil rare and much to my anger i still get those spawns. Some things I feel like have been happening are: you get less keystones at cap but more fragments (don't know how this effects overall productivity).

Anyways, i have yet to get my zin'rokh. At this point i'm about to slip from sanity and... well we all know the rest. Is anyone aware of factors that affect procing zin'rokh and or something that may make me unable to proc it? (I didn't start using my trolls till 450 and i'm 85.)

Comment by 741430

According to http://www.wow-archaeology.com/archaeology-faq,

" What is the chance that I find a rare artifact?

When starting a new archaeology project the chance of getting a rare project depends on your archaeology level and the number of projects you have completed for that race before.

You cannot complete the same rare artifact more than once. "

I know it might be a BS site and pose no relevance , but this actually sounds right. read some blue post about this saying that all the rare artifacts are there to be discovered. If it was a matter of pure luck, there wouldn't be an achievement for digging up all the 20 rare artifacts, that would be a feat of strength.

From my experience with blizzard designing achievements and feats of strength (and i know what i am saying here, got 10K achievement points on my main), achievements are there to be earned by anyone, while feats of strength are the "harder or almost impossible" to achieve. If i think about the legendary weapon drops, or very rare mount drops, there is a feat of strength for them because them dropping for you is a matter of pure RNG. not to mention that you split you chances of getting the legendary/ mount with everyone else in the party.

Now, some rare artifacts should be harder to find, they are the equivalent of top non-HC raid weapons. it would be silly to just give them away( everyone would be running around with these weapons if all you needed to do is solve 20-40 troll artifacts and got it).

So, adding all these together,i don't think it's a good idea to start up archeology on another character just because you got 525 and you got the cataclysm zones to spawn dig sites. My logic points to the fact that every troll common artifact you solve get's you closer to getting the sword. Sure, some ppl are lucky bastards and get it on their first 25 solves, others get it at 100, others dont get it after 200. But this counting towards an achievement points to the fact that the chances of this sword popping up as a project increase as you complete more artifacts.

Just think about it.. apply the same logic to all the other hunted rares.. the dwarf staff, the tol'vir staff, weapon and mount. if this was pure RNG, getting the professor title would be harder and take longer in time then farming for all the vanilla legendarys put together( one MC run takes about 1 hour :P ) and there are feats of strength for each of those.

Comment by 738531

Standing at 175 completed troll artifacts (post 450) and still nothing. Sanity? What is that? I think I lost it when I reached 100 completed. I would be inclined to find out what the internal % chance of getting this as the next to solve artifact is, because at this stage, even RNG does not explain why I still have not found this yet.

Comment by LuckySleven

Total RNG finding this weapon

Comment by Keter

I'll never admit defeat, I'll get this sword yet.

Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering sword; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee

Comment by 462843

i figured i'll farm ZG before it got removed to get the sword and have it popped automaticly to the lvl 85 version... never been so wrong about it T_T farmed 4000 troll artifacts and burned them after each other never procced guess u need %^&*loads of luck as the 200 times i been there and never gotten then tiger mount dropped, i think trolls hate me :(

Comment by gomjabar

I hit the no return point on farming zinrokh 50 solves ago. Its do or die. I cant stop and have wasted 40 hours of farming with nothing to show for it. It could be my NEXT solve! Btw found this on another site.

/run print("Total artifacts"); for x=1,9 do local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(x); local a =0; for y=1,c do local t = select(9, GetArtifactInfoByRace(x, y)); a=a+t;end local rn = GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x); if( c > 1 ) then print(rn .. ": " .. a); end end

shows your solves.

Comment by 288456

Can anyone confirm if keeping a rare item in your queue from a certain race makes those fragments more rare? A user posted that it does earlier, and I'm trying to confirm it myself. Right now, I have a Night Elf and a Dwarf rare in my queue. However, after an hour of farming, it does seem that dwarf and night elf fragments now seem to be much less than before I had the rares in queue. Now I'm getting nothing but troll and fossil fragments.

Comment by aggression

Solved over 100 trolls after I dinged 525, 2 weeks ago. No luck. :)

Working on my mage at the moment. Not done any quest at all, it's lvl 83 now, through archeaology only. :) Only level my skill with fossils. All way to 525.

Comment by 304943

Just in case someone haven't posted this script here, I'll do it again.

This script till tell you how many completed of each artifact you have. Just open up you "Completed Artifacts" tab under Archaeology and run this in the chat:

/run print("Total artifacts"); for x=1,9 do local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(x); local a =0; for y=1,c do local t = select(9, GetArtifactInfoByRace(x, y)); a=a+t;end local rn = GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x); if( c > 1 ) then print(rn .. ": " .. a); end end

Credits to Unko who first showed me this script. Thanks Unko, it works great.

/offtopic

I'm currently on 120 completed Troll Artifacts, I'm not giving up. :)

Good luck everyone.

Comment by 738999

loosing all hope! 185 troll solves, and no Sword!

Comment by godded

Got mine today 1900 fragments and 41 tablets used.

Finally I got lucky for once. Had 2100 farmed and thought I'll give it a shot, it's christmas after all. :P
Good luck to all out there, dualwielding it with the old Zin'Rokh for the luls.

Edit: Btw I did take the advice and stayed below 450 to maximize the troll farm.

Comment by Adins

Just a "minor" upgrade to latest version ;) Im glad to be owner of one of these babys.

Comment by 288456

Doesn't seem correct for me either. I solved over 50 troll artifacts last night and even more today, yet it only shows 9.

Comment by 742346

Hey guys!
I just got this bad boy today, few minutes ago, after 5 days of farming. I just started to level archeology, and at about 200, I stopped to use the troll fragments, only leveled in EK, from dwarf and fossil solves. 2 days ago I stopped at 440, because I don't wanted to unlock the cataclysmic digsites, having more chance on trollsite spawns. So I ended up with 40 tablets and 2060 fragments. Back in OG I used all my dwarf and fossil fragments to level up to 525, had about 880 dwarf fragments, and 650 fossil ones, and some Nelf ones also. At 525 I just started to solve the troll fragments, praying to god it will pop up, which happened when I had 1258 fragments and 20 tablets left. So it is obtainable at max skill, seems from 450-525. I didn't solve all of the 14 common artifacts before, so there is no influence from this side also. Best way is to save the fragments, so you can get the RNG better to work imho.... but I don't really have any good or better idea.
Best of luck to all of you,
Greetings,
Walda - Ragnaros EU

Comment by 288456

I believe the new digsites become active at exactly 450

Comment by Mosg

I multibox. I farmed my 4 Death Knights to 450 skill without completing a single Troll artifact and then recorded me completing all four character's Troll artifacts.

In total, 211 Troll artifacts solved post-450 skill. Know how many Zin'rok's I got?

Zero.

http://www.justin.tv/mosg2/b/276192682

^^Video or it didn't happen.

Comment by 742764

I know this item's a real #$%^& to get, but I'm fairly determined. Got my albino drake, now I'm moving on to this. I'll get it eventually ^-^.
A big thank you to all the people who posted info on requirments to get it, you all rock.
-Lost Avalon.

Comment by Lykurgos

I'm skill 450 now with 1800 fragments and 46 Tablets, but I'm lv 84, do i need to be 85 to have a chance to get it?

Comment by uranux

No you dont' need it. I already seen an image of a player who has discovered it at 84.

Comment by uranux

Btw ... 4000 fragments here and 100 tablet. Going for 10.000

Comment by contextproblem

Just had the project pop up for me. Things to note:

-Completed a gray with before it, no keystone used

-No other rares in my other race queues atm

-Was stood in an exhausted Troll site in STV

edit - screenie removed

Comment by Lykurgos

Got it in my last try! Used 1800 fragments.