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Kommentar von 114410

Does CoD gain damage under the affects of Zandalarian Hero Charm? or any other spell damage increase trinkets?

Kommentar von 123516

so i have a few questtions, if u dont have a minion does it still become ur pet, and is it me opr does this spell NEVER work

Kommentar von 87957

This spell is taken from the WC3 ultimate skill of Pitlords called "Doom", where the targeted unit would suffer a huge amount of damage over time and would (no matter what) die from the effect, spawning a doomguard in its place.
Unlike the WoW version, the WC3 version was uninteruptable and would last until the unit died, meaning that NO MATTER WHAT the spell would kill the unit and make a doomguard spawn in its place.
By uninteruptable, I mean that it was undispellable.
It sure would be awesome if the WoW version was like that... but it would be slightly over powered...
However, like the WoW version, the WC3 version could not be used on heroes, so this is still fairly true to the original.

Kommentar von 95219

just wondering, can you use this on, say, a pet or minion in pvp?

chaos and pandemonium, hilarity ensues, etc.

Kommentar von 104502

That's...a lot of damage. With a decent amount of spellpower, and Amplify Curse, this thing is going to be blowing for 15k+ with very little work involved.

Still, fairly useless on anythig except bosses, demons, and elementals.

Kommentar von 230679

so if you can't use it on people and nothing yields experience for an 80 because it is max level, so what can you use it on now?

I know kind of noobish question, but gelt i needed to ask and do you use it on bosses like kara etc.

Kommentar von n4rt0n

why don't they make it simple just saying "targets with "green level" or higher" and "not castable on player"? =P

Kommentar von 222908

because this is technically a dot it cannot crit but with the new afflic talent
talenthttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=58437 this can crit

Kommentar von 178572

I never tried it, but can you cast this on players pets? I would assume you can. Just never tried. Might be a good way to cause a ruckus and ^&*! off hunters or other warlocks when their pet just takes a huge chunk of damage a minute later. Since it's not the most noticeable spell.

Kommentar von Destral

You couldn't use it on critters before anyway because they wouldn't stay in combat the required amount of time for it to blow up.

Kommentar von Onijitsu

which is lame.

Not lame. This is simply such a powerful spell -- even with the one minute wait time -- that Blizzard's only alternative would be to take it away from us. Be glad you have it for your other nefarious purposes. It's not ONLY useful for making Doomguards. You can also use it to make a substantial reduction in your target's health, if they are a boss, once a minute. Or to put it on a second target, which you don't expect to be able to kill within a minute. It's almost a "fire and forget" spell. In fact, it has been reported that Curse of Doom does not break polymorph, since it causes no damage until a minute is up.

Kommentar von 157377

Tired of seeing this be used on HC bosses as a arcane mage D: I wants CoE!
And I don't know any HC bosses who lasts more then 1 min these days. Just plain stupid to use over CoE, when noone benefits from CoD D:

Kommentar von 195289

Ticks every 15 seconds for Demonology, before haste, giving 4 ticks total and completely replacing Bane of Agony in all situations. No cooldown to boot.

Not to mention random demons popping out during fights. Do want.

Kommentar von jaraii

Any word on what it summons with bane of doom? Is it a normal doomguard or what?

Kommentar von Vergilius

In cata this ability has been changed, it now deals damage every 15 seconds (still lasts 1 minute) and each tick has a 20% (50% with talents) chance to summon an Ebon Imp to assist you in battle.

Kommentar von Xiamaru

There is a weird issue currently. The spell clearly states it procs every 15 seconds, and so does the debuff you put on your enemies. However, when you link your spell in the chat, others will see a tooltip that states it procs every 30 seconds.

Testing it is quick and easy, and it is 15 seconds. This is hardly a surprise, and I can't imagine anyone NOT knowing this. But just today, some druid claimed to know it should proc every 30 seconds, and I was stupid and blind, and god knows what else, because I didn't know. He told me to check the internet, and lo and behold, 15 seconds interval between procs. The issue came when I linked the spell to show it, and people started laughing, saying "well, it DOES say 30 seconds. Guess you were wrong".

Not really anything big, but it DOES matter when deciding between Bane of Doom and Bane of Agony. Currently at level 22 (my new toon), my Bane of Doom deals more damage every 15 seconds, than my Bane of Agony does on a full, 24 seconds duration. This means all cases where enemies lasts more than 15 seconds, Bane of Doom will be superior. If it had lasted 30 seconds, it wouldn't have been worth it, but with 15 seconds, it is.

Kommentar von 702831

Would the damage transferred from Bane of Havoc also constitute additional Ebon Imp procs? Or would the damage transferred be counted only as damage done by Bane of Havoc?

Kommentar von 634254

Bane of Havoc doesn't spawn ebon imps. Nor can it stack with Bane of Doom

Kommentar von 572669

Preatty better than older spell "course of Doom"

Kommentar von Beace

So, Bane of Agony is pretty much useless now except maybe for an affliction lock lock leveling and killing mobs in under 15 seconds? Or am I missing something?

Kommentar von 232596

anyone notice that bane of doom can cast on player in pvp now?

Kommentar von 18154

To anyone who cares to weigh-in. My questions are:

1. I have found that my Ebon imp does about 1k of dps or dmg have to recheck, but is good source of dps and worth using BoD in raids?
2. What exactly does it mean by "... and only one Bane per Warlock can be active on any one target"? I assume in raids the locks will have to decide who uses which Bane from start to finish. This can become heck since Banes depend on encounter. Also the Bane can factor in on a warlock's dps.
3. As in 2 above, if you have 3 bosses let's say like in Gruuls Lair, can we only have 1 Bane in that entire encounter active? (okay huge boss with HUGE adds)
-- So now not only do we coordinate curses but banes as well... Sheesh Blizz help a girl out.
4. As a destro lock I have found BoA to be less useful since BoD does dmg after 15 secs. And with the cata expac, even trash mobs take at least 15secs in raids so therefore BoH would be most useful on trash and BoD on bosses.
5. Now we locks can have Ebon imp, Summoned Minion and a demon active all at once. If you use a companion also, you're sure to draw a crowd.

PS Warlocks are cool even if we get nerfed every patch @.@

Kommentar von kerrymayall

I've noticed something though; the ebon imps, which you have no control over, will attack cc'd mobs if they happen to be the closest targets to where they spawn. I unfortunately learnt this the hard way on first boss of heroic Throne of Tides after i had used glyphed fear on one of the witch adds that appear - the ebon imp having proc'd from BoD being on boss.

Just something to be aware of on CC intensive fights with the best solution at this stage being to position yourself as close to skull target as possible for any potential ebon imp spawns to latch onto.

Kommentar von DarkBladeSethan

Demon specced I have issues with demons breaking CC.Trapped or Feared (with glyph ofc), I keep my felguard on passive at pulls. While still passive I send him on tank's target,yet he decides to occasionally charge into a CC. Tho a very useful ability in PvP,in PvE is annoying, only thing I noticed I can to is to disable the autocharge.But sometimes even that won't keep my demon going rampage on cc'd mobs

Kommentar von oncmonkey

ok i have used it like 500 times now on my lock and not one proc of it does it have a min level to proc my lock is lvl 34 and demo
plz help me sounds like a sweet spell if it works

Kommentar von butcher098

Question: Would Haste increase the proc rate for summoning the demon guardian?

Kommentar von midnightlynx

Since Bane of Doom isn't effected by haste, it's clear it doesn't work like other DoTs.
Has anyone tested whether its final tick can be clipped, or if it just refreshes the duration like standard DoTs?

Kommentar von gremlinoutcast

I've tested to see if the last DoT was clipped if you refreshed early and was surprised with what I found out. Not only does refreshing early NOT clip the last tick... it can add time past 1 min.

Ex: To test it I did it with a stopwatch in my hand. I casted BoD and 10 seconds later cast another. The tick still went off at 15 seconds and every 15 seconds thereafter until completed. I did it again but this time casted another BoD when it had 20 seconds remaining; every tick happened at 15 seconds intervals based on the original cast.

Take home: Refresh whenever...just dont let it drop.

edit: to try and prove/disprove myself... i again pulled out the stop watch and began casting BoD on a dummy continously. The tick went off at every 15 sec interval still even while i was refreshing it... the damage happened AS i was putting on a new BoD (for the 17th time already). So yea... WHENEVER :)

Kommentar von 860115

Current version 4.2
Here is some interesting facts about BoD, mostly a pve perspective

It will keep its original damage based on your stats/buffs when you cast it. This includes procs like power torrent, if your power torrent procs before a tick, the tick will do just as much dmg as it would have if your power torrent had not procced. But if your power torrent procs before you cast it, all the ticks will be like it has power torrent.

This means it might be worth the global to refresh a high time duration low damage BoD if a trinket procs or something. And your big cooldowns are over a minute away.

Testing on a dummy, as demonology when darkmoon card volcano procs, and i refreshed a 0 buffs BoD and the ticks gained ~2.2k in damage, that would lead to ~11k(5 ticks explained below), which is probably not worth a global, but it would be if you were moving, or if a phase transition was happening soon. But if a trinket and something else such as engineering gloves/power torrent/tailoring cloak i got roughly 3.5k more dmg per tick(17k 5 ticks) which is indeed worth a global if your big cooldowns are a long time away.

For affliction on the dummy, BoD has a lot of modifiers increasing its dmg by a %, so with just the darkmoon card proccing and refreshing it, it ticked for over 5k more each time. I could only imagine if there were several things stacked and you refreshed it.

It is most definitely worth it to refresh a low damage one if you are able to use a felhunter demon soul, and especially metamorphosis AND demon soul together if you are demo. that will make it hit for well over twice as hard. Really you want to shoot for refreshing it when that happens, and a trinket procs together, if you refresh it then and the full 5 ticks of it, would be a significant dmg increase

Also when the BoD gets refreshed, the duration goes up to 1 minute and whatever seconds was left before the next tick of the previous BoD. When it counts down to the 1 minute point, that tick will be of the NEW cast instead of the old one. And then it will do the regular BoD 4 ticks. That means 5 ticks of the new cast. assuming you don't refresh it again at some point.

That means if you have a good one going, and you refresh it before it finishes, you will LOSE DPS. It is better to wait untill it falls off and then cast a new one in that situation.

This also means if you refresh a bad one, with a good one, you'll get 5 ticks of the good one.

Another interesting idea. for Demo starts, typically you coe, meta/on use trinket/demon soul macro with felguard, shadow bolt, felguard ww, immolate HoG BoD corruption immolation and shadowflame if ur close then you soul burn to instant summon your felhunter out. b/c its higher dps but you want the felguard for ur first demon soul. Anyway......
Typically when i start a fight, my power torrent and darkmoon card volcano proc at the same time 2-3 casts in, If i cast BoD TWICE it would give it that 5th tick of that super high dmg. on a dummy with no raid buffs, it ticked for 28k Now with the felguard demon soul its darn close to 1 sec gcd to cast BoD My shadowbolt only hit during that for 19k so getting an extra 28k+ tick over a usual 12k bod tick(after the minute) + roughly 10k sb(since sb is ~2 sec cast time/2 for 1 global) that would be a whopping 6k damage increase O.o probably more raid buffed And it would be a good idea period if your still moving close to the boss so you can cast the melee range stuff. Must go to elitist jerks

But ignore all that.

The most practical use of all this, is if you have a high damage BoD going, don't refresh it early.
If you have a low dmg one going, and you use your big cooldowns, make sure you refresh it before it ticks again so you maximize its ticks

Kommentar von 594361

I have a rogue main but recently i made a lock. Id have to say using bane of doom is a great way to tag a rogue and to force them to CoS, due to its long effect even in pvp. Just a hint for you locks that hate rogues :]

Kommentar von 305827

I havent tried it yet but It should be most fun way to gank in cata. Cast it on low level player and hang around , /dance , /cheer or leave him on his own doom :)

Kommentar von Arnen

I don't think I've ever actually seen the imp proc, and my lock's lv57...

Is it worth using agony over this on non-boss mobs at low levels, since stuff usually doesn't even take 15s to die?

Kommentar von 819591

Im an Affliction Warlock. I mostly just pvp. Anyone know a good site for info on Affliction warlocks? I dont really know what to use in what situations. Thanks

Kommentar von dobroanon

Well, okay, i checked out my recount after Dornozmu fight as my afflic, we were with shaman who used BL after each hourglass, so it was like 2BLs on me for the most of time. Usually, i use BoD, but here i tried how will it go with Agony. Here's the results.

Agony was on for 40 seconds, and it did 72k dmg. (Under both BL and Hourglass buff)
BoD has ticked 11 times wich is equal to 175 seconds, and it did 310k dmg.
So, using a calculator, its easy to see that:
Agony: 1800 Dps
BoD: 1770 Dps

Having nearly the same dps, but Agony benefits from 2 BLs, and BoD does not. So, i assume that BoD much more better for single fight bosses, as well as it easier to renew it and does higher dps than Agony.

And now the question: could it be useful if i try to go mastery+crit afflic instead of usual mastery+haste?

Kommentar von Itsversayce

Mists changes

Exclusive to the Demonolgy specilization.
Requires to be active (Cannot cast in Dark Apothesis).
Replaces Verderbnis on your Action Bar when you enter , but stacks with it.
Summons a Wildwichtel every time it critically hits.
Benefits from Spell Haste like other DoTs.
Single target limit removed.

Kommentar von Facico

I just realized the icon is of two cartoony eyes with a bunch of evil looking eyes around it.

Kommentar von evanbloom

I need to get this Morbo soundclip and use it in a playsoundfile macro...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQYeqz_9c0

Kommentar von akke

How much is absolutely massive? :o

Kommentar von 223371

A very hastened curse of doom. No mention on the duration of the curse itself.

Kommentar von rodalpho

The devs told us exactly how 7.0 Doom works at the link(s) below.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743504316?page=18#346

I'm pasting it here as they typically delete the beta forums after release.

Q: Does Doom operate like a standard dot, with a partial tick at the end of the duration if haste allows?

A: Doom does have partial ticks on expiration like any other periodic (noting here that you typically wouldn't let it expire in a normal rotation). The partial tick does have a prorated chance to generate a Shard and an Impending Doom proc.

Kommentar von marciowb

This data is out of date. Where we read: "Apply Aura: Periodic Damage Value: 1 every 20 seconds (SP mod: 5)" it is wrong, because it isn't a periodic damage (it isn't a DOT), but a damage after end of a time.

Kommentar von theraafa

I was kinda lost when it came to Doom's behavior until yesterday. After some research, I finally managed to understand how it's working in Legion. So...

For those of you who still don't get how Verdammnis is working after 7.0.3:

• Verdammnis is still a common DoT debuff and, as such, it will do ticks of damage after a specific period of time.
• Most DoT spells, like Agonie and Feuerbrand, have fast ticks, with a few seconds between each. Verdammnis is unique in that sense, having extremely slow ticks (at least when compared to its sisters in other specializations). These ticks CAN be hastened by increasing your Haste% - same damage in less time.
• Refreshing Verdammnis and taking advantage of the old "Pandemic" mechanics will NOT delay it's damage - it will STILL tick every X seconds, based on your haste (original value = 20.0s).

Hope that was helpful somehow.

Kommentar von Gaviscon69

One thing to note is that doom will not break sap when applied.

Nor will it break invis (obviously) while it is counting down.

Kommentar von Itsversayce

~~This spell was removed in 8.0.1. See Fluch der Verdammnis for the current version.~~
This is again the correct spell ID with Patch 9.0.1.

Kommentar von stefanw1337

This is such a BAD spell to have. I remember when discovered this in vanilla. It did tremendous amounts of damage after 20 seconds or whatever, compared to other spells. And if a mob died to it, it had a chance to summon a Doomlord. Don't know if that is still the case?

Now it does like 1/2 of that it did in vanilla. And remember the damage is through the roof these days.. Game kinda already need a squish again..

So not only does it do BAD damage, it's useless on any other mobs than bosses, because everything dies before X seconds has even gone. Dude, I can't even get off a Shadowbolt often before I need to change targets on trash. And it gives 1 soulshard every 20ish seconds. What a joke of a spell..

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Belegt das Ziel mit drohender Verdammnis, was sofort (104.406% der Zaubermacht) Schattenschaden verursacht und nach 20 Sek. Gegnern innerhalb von 10 Metern (290.928% der Zaubermacht) Schattenschaden zufügt. Fügt Zielen über 8 Ziele hinaus verringerten Schaden zu.

Das verzehren eines 'Dämonischen Kerns' verringert die Dauer von 'Verdammnis' um 3 Sek.

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Dazu verdammt, gewaltvoll zu explodieren. Fügt Gegnern im Umkreis von 10 Metern (290.928% der Zaubermacht) Schattenschaden zu.
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Effekt #1

Apply Aura: [Dummy]
Wert: 8
PVP-Multiplikator: 1
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School Damage (Schatten) (SP mod: 1.04406)
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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Apply Aura: [Dummy]
Wert: 3
PVP-Multiplikator: 1
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