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Kommentar von 884267

Is the AoE effect shared? Because if it's not, it seems like healers will actually place this on enemies, and DPS will place this on... probably tanks? That's a bit weird, but okay..

Kommentar von Budlaorf

I'm guessing as dps you will use this on teamates or yourself for AoE dmg and on the enemy for single target dps

Kommentar von 746315

Highly versitile spell.
Can be used on an enemy to top off nearby allies.
Can be used on an ally to top off their health and hit any enemy nearby.
Can be self-cast for a moderate heal and decent AoE damage.

Kommentar von Kioko

The look of this spell is pretty simple. A single beam will hit each target (max. 6) in either green (Heal) or red (Damage), using the main-target or player as base.

The damage or heal done by it is not being divided among the targets, making this a very useful ability that includes support for the healer or DD's every 20 seconds.

Kommentar von Lordplatypus

Quite versatile, and a nice way to replace our old divine storm as an "Fire And Forget" Aoe, Just macro it to target yourself and BLAM

Kommentar von 928712

I made a short macro for this:

#showtooltip
/cast Holy Prism; Holy Prism

If you press your keybind with shift, it will heal you and do AE dmg. If you press it without the modifier, it will do singletarget damage and AE heal.

Kommentar von 304593

Can anyone confirm if this will un-stealth rogues and the like (when cast on yourself)?

Kommentar von 1002364

I dont know if its bug, but looks like AoE dmg part does not cancel repentance.

Kommentar von 852431

I've found this spell to behave oddly when fired at an enemy target.
It basically attempts to heal any friendly target, regardless of whether you could normally heal them or not.
For example, I've often seen it heal my crops on the farm, or an Alliance player (I'm Horde) who was walking by.
I don't really know what to make of it, just wanted to share the info.

Kommentar von guardian84

This spell is NOT a smart heal (ie it does NOT heal the 5 most injured raid members within 15 yds if you used this on a hostile target). If you used this on a hostile target, the heals can crit and will heal any ally within 15 yds of hostile target, including pets, minions, guardians, etc.

If you compare the figures, this talent has a slightly higher throughput than Light's Hammer and Execution Sentence in theory. However, the fact that it is not a smart heal results in mostly overheals in a 10man and 25man raid environment, especially if your raid setup has a lot of pet classes (hunters, warlocks etc). And the fact that you cannot rely on it to heal the correct targets when you need it to is just risky for a lot of situations.

I personally tried this talent for a couple of weeks and found that having no control over who you can heal and itself not being a smart heal was just subpar compared to Light's Hammer.

If you are running heroic dungeons, this spell may be more useful compared to being in a raid environment.

Kommentar von Whackyo

This spell will knock enemy stealthers out if they are within 15 yards of the friendly target getting healed

Kommentar von 771811

Did a little math on this one for my fellow holy pallys.
http://fooplot.com/plot/4gb4zbodd6

y axis=Healing
x axis=Spellpower
Lightest blue is healing from: Hammer des Lichts over a minute for 25 stacked players.
Middle light blue is healing from: Hammer des Lichts over a minute for 10 stacked players.
Middle dark blue is healing from: Hammer des Lichts over a minute for 5 stacked players.
Dark blue is healing from: Hammer des Lichts over a minute for 1 player.
Yellow is healing received from having the enemy in the prism from Heiliges Prisma and healing 5 players cast 3 times during a minute
Orange is healing received from having an ally in the prism from Heiliges Prisma and healing 1 player cast 3 times during a minute
Red is healing received from having the enemy in the prism from Heiliges Prisma and healing 1 player cast 3 times during a minute

The moral of the story is that Hammer des Lichts is better for (burst) healing 7-25 stacked people(7 is where it actually crosses over). Heiliges Prisma is better for healing 1-5 people 3 times a minute.

Also:

TLDR: Since 5.2 this spell appears to start measuring the 15 yards from the edge of the boss' hit box rather than the centre of the boss.

I believe they have made a minor change to this spell in 5.2 that actually makes it a lot better on certain fights. I killed Garalon earlier today and noticed when I cast Heiliges Prisma on his body, the spell worked differently.

Pre 5.2
Casting Heiliges Prisma on Garalon's body did damage to him but did not heal any one. Because his body is so huge no one was within 15 yards(from the centre of him) to receive the heal(assuming they were following mechanics).

Post 5.2
Casting Heiliges Prisma on Garalon's heals up to 5 players within 15 yards outside of his hit box.

I had noticed that the "range" of the heal(when the enemy is in the prism) seemed bigger since 5.2, but I think I needed to see it on a boss like Garalon to hypothesize/understand why.

This makes this spell much better for fights like Horridon.

Let me know if anyone can confirm that they are also noticing this.

Kommentar von 480061

Paladin Holy: This is a MUST for RBG!

We doesn't have any AOE to defend capping (...I miss U, Holy Wrath TT______TT), so we must be creative with Holy Prism:
/cast Holy Prism
With this macro we cast the spell on us, so it will proc the 5 beams to the enemy.

You can have a button like this:
/cast Holy Prism; Holy Prism
It will use the prism like normal f you don't press any mod key (alt, shift, ctrl), and at yourself if you did.

And don't forget to track the CD! Better with NeedToKnow or Weak Auras ;)

Kommentar von GeckoKid

Currently seems to be bugged and would pull neutrals or enemies alike when cast on an enemy if they're close enough, without actually damaging them at all (apart from the target of course). I thought it was quite odd while doing the Thunder Isle dailies and I have critters attempting to attack me, and then proved it the hard way when I was only trying to pull a Direhorn Hatching, where its parent got very angry (as they would I guess...) and sent me quickly to the grave.

Kommentar von 5427

Since as a healer I usually use this spell for it's healing, I made a following macro:
#showtooltip Holy Prism
/use Holy Prism
This targets the first harmful target in strict order. Ctrl forces to cast it on my current target, friend or foe. This way it's easy to use it on cooldown without paying too much attention for targeting.

Kommentar von 1127944

while raiding on my ret I've found execution sentence to be much better, both for dps and as healer support; however I mostly pvp and holy prism is far more useful imo.

Prism is great for burst, though admittedly it can be a bit tough to work into the burst rotation. Midfield scrum on bg the utility is excellent and it can't be dispelled like execution sentence.

Kommentar von 997771

The main benefit of this spell is its versatility:

There are four situations to use it:

1 Target needs to be attacked (cast at enemy target)
Multiple Targets need to be healed (cast at enemy target)
Multiple Targets need to be attacked (cast at friendly target)
1 Target needs to be healed (cast at friendly target)

I use a macro that allows me as a Prot Paladin to choose whether to cast it at myself to heal me and hit multiple targets, or to cast it at my target and heal my nearby allies, and also lets me to cast Holy Prism on any mouseover target as a Holy Paladin:
/cast Holy Prism

As a Holy Paladin, I use this in conjunction with Vuhdo, which lets me see any friendly target that needs to be healed as well as the targets of my various tanks. As a Prot Paladin i generally reserve the ST heal for myself.

Kommentar von 3vilMoW

I run Prot in a heroic 10 man raid guild.

As a tank I'm really not trying to do as much damage as my fellow raiders, I'm more trying to keep them alive so they can kill the boss. For that matter I run with http://www.wowhead.com/spell=114165.
I find it more useful.

Boss about to AoE the group? Hit the boss with this to help out the healers (with full vengance stack I've seen me do heals for close to 300,000 on multiple people). May not be a smart heal, but that little bit still helps my healers out.

Need to pick up adds that just spawned? Cast it on myself. Decent healing, along with massive healing aggro and damage beams to get at least five adds. Perfect for H Sha of Prides Reflections and Immersius's Congealed Sha droplets.

Off tank covered with adds? Cast it on him to get a fill a chunk of his life and give a decent wack from 40 yards away to those annoying adds. That's the longest attack range for a pally, besides http://www.wowhead.com/spell=114157.

Hammer des Lichts may have AOE healing and Damage, but it depends on the group/ mob to stay in that one place. has single target damage OR healing, so if you use it on an add or friendly that dies halfway through, IMO you wasted the ability and still have to wait for its 1 minute cooldown. I can use 3 prisms in that time.

In all this is just my opinion. Even though it's raw numbers may not be comparable to the other two talents in the tier, it far outweighs them with it's versatility.

Kommentar von Tenjen

i am not seeing the beams when used on large bosses, is it just not hitting people because its out of range or are the visuals disabled in a raid setting?

Kommentar von 1455595

The paladin can need the holy prism

Kommentar von Axcelsior

As a level 60 ret pal, I just tagged each mob with the Red Rider Air Rifle first. Rotes Erbsengewehr

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Heiliges Prisma

Heiliges Prisma

Talent

2.6% von Grundmana	40 Meter Reichweite

Sofort	45 sek. Abklingzeit

Feuert einen Lichtstrahl ab, der sich aufteilt, um eine Ansammlung von Zielen zu treffen.

Wenn der Strahl auf ein gegnerisches Ziel gerichtet wird, fügt er ihm (648% der Zaubermacht) Heiligschaden zu und strahlt [(688% der Zaubermacht) * 1] Heilung auf bis zu 5 Verbündete innerhalb von 30 Metern ab.

Wenn der Strahl auf ein verbündetes Ziel gerichtet wird, heilt er es um [(1587.6% der Zaubermacht) * 1] Gesundheit und strahlt (245.7% der Zaubermacht) Heiligschaden auf bis zu 5 Gegner innerhalb von 30 Metern ab.

Erzeugt 3 Heilige Kraft.

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Magieart

Heilig

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GCD-Kategorie

Normal

Kosten

2.6% von Grundmana

Reichweite

40 Meter (Lang)

Zauberzeit

Sofort

Abklingzeit

45 sekunden

GCD

1.5 sekunden

Effekt #1

Dummy
Wert: 102
PVP-Multiplikator: 1
Serverseitiges Skript

Effekt #2

Give Power (Heilige Kraft)
Wert: 3
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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Kann nicht verwendet werden, während Ihr gestaltverwandelt seid
Waffe nicht wegstecken
Kein Angriff
Ermögliche Zauberreflektion
Nicht im Zauberbuch bis erlernt
Zauberwirken überschreibt im Zauberbuch
Ermögliche Procs von Klassenfähigkeiten

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Heilig Guide: Talente Holy Paladin PvP Guide Heilig Guide: Rotation Legion Paladin Class Changes

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