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On a Pale Horse

On a Pale Horse
Requires Death Knight
Requires level 61

You become as hard to stop as death itself. The duration of movement-slowing effects used against you is reduced by 30%, and your mounted speed is increased by 20%.

Spell Details

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School

Physical

Mechanic

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Dispel type

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GCD category

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Cost

None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

n/a

GCD

0 seconds

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Mod Mounted Speed % - Doesn't Stack with Anything
Value: 20%

Effect #2

Apply Aura: Mod Mounted Speed % (ground + flying) (12)
Value: 20%

Effect #3

Apply Aura: Mod Mechanic Duration % (Snared)
Value: -30%

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Comments

Comment by SteveThePirate

A Death Knight Talent. Possibly a biblical reference (allusion):
Revelation 6:8
I looked, and there was a pale horse! Its rider's name was Death, and Hades followed him. They were given authority over one-fourth of the earth to kill people using wars, famines, plagues, and the wild animals of the earth.

Seems kinda Death-Knight'ish to me.

Comment by howlermonkey

retadins get a talent like this but gives -50% disarm duration and +15% mounted speed.
c'mon, blizz, if retadins get +15%, why cant DKs?

Comment by Zulsokni

Unholy Presense increases DK's unmounted speed by 15%.

So look at it this way, Pally's get a talent that increases their unmounted speed, and a spell that increases their mounted speed.

DK's, on the other hand, get a talent that increases their mounted speed, and a spell that increases their unmounted speed.

Instead of another 30% stun/fear reduction, we also get a 15% attack speed increase.

Pretty much the same thing, except we get unholy presense at 70.

Comment by ripred

Wait, so how does this work?

Let's say I'm on a 270% flying mount. How does this talent calculate my new speed?
1. 270 + 20 = 290% speed
or
2. 270 * 1.20 = 324% speed

Comment by Aaro

I really wish this was more useful. At 2 points, and in the Frost tree, this is a fairly expensive convenience talent. It's great for PvP, but even PvE'ers would love that faster mount speed attached to something more interesting.

Comment by Fawful

Does anyone know if this works with the guild perk "mount up"?

Comment by Hijou

Well....I might be mistaken, but.... "This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects." seems to suggest no.

Comment by Loetek

The big plus to this talent is not that mount speed increase. its the snare duration reduction which is a NEED if you plan on doing PVP in Blood spec. Stack in the Snare reduction Meta Gem and the Bone Shield glyph to catch and crush your enemy.

Comment by MJMPsycho

I see all the time that people don't know how to calculate the speed after these talents are in use.
When you have a mount with +310% speed, your total speed is 410% which is your Mounted speed. 410*1,2=Your new total speed with this talent. Your total speed is 492%, so this talent will give you a 392% mount.

Comment by Vipral

The guild perks stack with all other effects, even ones that say they don't stack with similar effects.

Comment by Atrumara

This was probobly answered but Does this ability increase your Flying Mount speed as well?

Comment by robspierre

Does NOT stack with Mount Up. Tested this also with addon MonkeySpeed.

Comment by Czrbonium

Talent Analysis
Not a damage increase, but a utility talent, On A Pale Horse provides assistance whether you are on said horse or not. The increase to mount speed is always welcome as a way to cut down travelling time. The 30% reduction in snare uptime is also welcome, as it allows the DK to rush into (or out of) battle more quickly.

Soloers will want this talent, so that they can go in between their quests while levelling much faster than without it. However, in a dungeon and raid environment, you are rarely mounted. The snare reduction may see some use in instancing, however, it shines greater in PvP, where snares are thrown about like confetti at a tacky wedding.

My talent analyses are always able to be edited if people believe I've missed, or wrongly included something as significant.

Comment by d4fF

This is a very good talent.

I have a warrior lvl 85. Have the 10% buff from guild and 310% riding. In the characterscreen his speed when mounted and in the air is listed at 451%. ((100+310)*1.1)=451.

I also have a DK lvl 71 with 280% riding with this talent maxed out. His speed is ((100+280)*1,2)=456

So if you have a DK and have a frostspec (which you should have anyways for soloing/questing) you basicly have Master riding without having to spend G's on the skill. You even fly faster!

Comment by Superchief

Hey guize Noobcake here. Juts so u know, in case teh other half of the comments about mounted speed before this didn't tel u, this talent make u fly FASTAR! Hur hur, bet u dindnt' kno that did U? Me smart zug zug. I juts tested et with my brane. Here my rocket science: e=mc2 + 3.14 / 300% times the square root of 1337 = fastar. I'm gunna mine dem mineral nodes fsater den U!

Comment by Rankkor

When you build a Stables (Level 1) you gain these abilities:

Enables the capture and training of special mounts on Draenor. Also allows you remain mounted while interacting with objects in outdoor Draenor zones.

These abilities are in your Spellbook & Abilities Frame under the Spellbook tab (bottom) and General tab (top right). As you search through you will find Silver Dollar Club.
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When you upgrade to Stables (Level 2) you gain an additional ability:

You will no longer get dazed by enemies while riding mounts in outdoor Draenor zones.

And the spell listed in your Spellbook is Dragoon.

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When you upgrade your Stables (Level 3) you gain an additional ability:

Increases mount speed in Draenor by 20%.

And the spell listed in your Spellbook is Master Scout.

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MOVEMENT SPEED
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I hear discussions and talk of whether or not this speed buff stacks with others, and I realize that they, like me, did not notice the one of most incredibly important Patch Notes for the expansion. Everyone is up in arms over flying in Draenor, and no one has even realized how slowly they are riding in Draenor.

The NEW approach to "Movement Speed" (Speed Buffs) is a terrible NERF that I have noticed and wondered about for weeks. It never made sense to me until I read the LAST section of:

The Iron Tide: 6.0.2 Patch Notes
(http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/15682579#movement_speed)

Take for instance a character that had a racial or class speed buff of 5%
(the two that come to mind are much more robust Heart of the Crusader/On a Pale Horse),
a guild perk speed buff (Mount Up - all guilds have it today) of 10%,
and let's add the Stables (Level 3) buff of Master Scout which equals 20%.

So we'll use three buffs - 5%, 10%, and 20% (for this example we will consider them all to be stackable).
Much of the confusion lies in the fact that speed is measure in percent of normal running speed. Walking speed is 40% and when adjusted for in-game distance it is equivalent to 5.784 mph and running of course would be 100% and 14.46 mph.

The Maximums are:
An unbuffed character Running@100% (14.46 mph),
Journeyman Riding allows Riding@200% (28.92 mph),
and
Master Riding allows Flying@410% (59.29 mph) .

------------------------------- MoP --------------------------------------

In Mist of Pandaria (MoP) speed buffs would be calculated multipicatively against the base speed then added to that speed so:
Running:
100% x .05 (05%) = +05%
100% x .10 (10%) = +10%
100% x .20 (20%) = +20%
100% + 05% + 10% (Stables buff is only mounted) = 115% (16.63mph)

Riding:
200% x .05 (05%) = +10%
200% x .10 (10%) = +20%
200% x .20 (20%) = +40%
200% + 10% + 20% + 40% = 270% (39.04mph)

Flying:
410% x .05 (05%) = +20.5%
410% x .10 (10%) = +41.0%
410% x .20 (20%) = +82.0%
410% + 20.5% + 41.0% + 82.0% = 553.5% (80.04mph)

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Today speed buffs would be calculated additively and only the highest speed buff is used:
Running:
100% + 05% = 105%
100% + 10% = 110%
100% + 20% = 120%
The highest buff is +110% (Stables buff is only mounted)
110% (15.91mph) ===> -5% (-0.72mph) in speed from MoP.

Riding:
200% + 05% = 205%
200% + 10% = 210%
200% + 20% = 220%
The highest buff is +220%
220% (31.81mph) ===> -50% (-7.23mph) in speed from MoP.

If they ever let us fly again.
They have at least slowed it down.
Be certain that even the folks from Irvine can handle it.

Flying:
200% + 05% = 415%
200% + 10% = 420%
200% + 20% = 430%
The highest buff is +430%
430% (62.18mph) ===> -123.5% (-17.86mph) in speed from MoP.

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In MoP, I was flying along at 451% with Mount Up (410% x 1.1 = 451%)
today in WoD I am flying along at 420% with Mount Up (410% + 10% = 420%)

Just think, by the time they give us flying our max speed may be 250% ... just to make sure folks living in Irvine can keep up.
(By the way, Irvine is a city built in the valley where I was born and raised. A population in that valley of 3k is now 3Mil. I am "Old and Slow".)

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