Discovered it while making a bunch of Ironshield pots. FYI, you don't need an alch specialization to discover the new flasks (nor does it matter which specialization you are, if you've already picked one). Extra flask procs are possible when making flasks with elixir specialization. The new flask recipes can only be discovered by making pots that are new to the expansion. Now go forth and prosper, young lad.

評論來自 bahimi

Learned this yesterday while making Super Healing Potions, no specialization yet, so it is possible to discover flasks w/o one as mentioned above.

評論來自 raldara

Discovered while making Fel Mana potions. I have no specialization.

評論來自 13098

So you're saying if you make enough Fel Mana potions, you can potentially learn Flask of Fort.? Can anyone verify this, and if so, which other skills can be learned from making pot's, flask's, etc...

評論來自 Catharsys

It's random. I got mine off of a 300+ alchemy skill. It was my first discovered skill.

評論來自 13072

Do you know If a 375 Master Transmuter can discover anything by making grey pots...like Major Healing, Major and adepts???
Just made over 1000 pots and notthing yet.

評論來自 uphir

Which pots / elixirs are people discovering this off of? I have a theory that the type of flask could be related to that.

For me, it was Super Healing Potions.

評論來自 leeloo

Discovered this today while making Super Mana Potions on my priest. This is my 3rd discovery so far w/ alchemy. I'm a transmute specialist. What pot you're making at the time as well as your specialty have nothing to do with whether or not you make a discovery. It's completely random.

評論來自 22703

On the 2.1 test realms, these now only give 500hp and 10 defence rating.

評論來自 44173

I seriously think the discovery chance depends on what potion/elixir you're creating.
Discovered Flask of Fortification while making Super Healing potions (as most of the people above) and Flask of Relentless Assault while making Elixirs of Major Agility.

評論來自 21350

Old stats were 1500hp and +30 defense
Old mats were 20 lichen, 10 thistle, and the same one fel lotus.

The rarest item of the recipe was the lotus before, and that didn't change so IMO this is pretty much your standard item nerf. However you can now get away with farming only these mats because it's all you can use, as compared to before when most raiders were expected to farm mats for 3-4 different elixirs.

評論來自 12979

well, i made elixir of major agility when i discovered flask of fortification, and i got flask of relentless assult while making adepts elixirs. and another alchymist from my guild got 2 other flask's from making elixir of major shadow power.

i do not belive theres certain elixirs or pots that gives you a chance to learn a special flask, just that its a certain % chance everytime you make elixirs or pots.

評論來自 58789

Does anyone know if flasks can still proc of Elixirs spec?

評論來自 52665

Learned this as a Master of Transmutation, while making Draenic Wisdom. When you consider that this takes the place of both Battle and Guardian elixir's post 2.1.0, this really isnt that good a discovery.

poor me.

評論來自 Methadone

Elixir of Major Agility (B) + Elixir of Major Defense (G) = 3136 tank points
Elixir of Mastery (B) + Elixir of Major Defense (G) = 2976 tank points
Flask of Fortification (B+G) = 2898 tank points

評論來自 ravage

Just learned this while making 12 Major Healing Potions....lol

評論來自 58086

Just discovered this in shatt while making some Elixir of Draenic Wisdom's...

Not sure if this was one of the newer potions put in the game or not, couldn't recall exactly and was unsure to make them based on actually getting a discovery proc since as a warrior this pot has no value to me at all.. sure enough after making a batch of the draenic wisdom's scored one of the best tanking flasks in game <3

Happy hunting guys!

評論來自 35086

Just discovered this at level 53, alchemy 332/375, while making Elixir of Healing Power. Nice surprise ;)

評論來自 77462

Just discovered this one. Level 70, 375 Alch, second discovery, learned making a batch of 20 Elixir of Healing Power.

The freaky thing? My first discovery, Super Rejuvenation Potion (which I was a little disappointed by), was ten potions earlier.

If you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go huddle in the corner out of fear at the long odds.

評論來自 laughingnome

I'm a lvl 57 and I was making a batch of "Adept's Elixir" and when I hit 316 in alchemy I was awarded this. Seems to be random, but you don't have to be so high in Alchemy as previously stated. It requires Alchemy Lab, and so I have to find out how or where to get that. Maybe I am too low for it? A search on wowhead turned up nothing about it.
: (

oh... doing a search on the net I see that it is a place I have to go to, much like how my engineer has to go to a place to make his stuff.

評論來自 74890

Just discovered this. Was making 22 super mana pots and it hit on the last one. Gonna be interesting getting the mats. Will have to advertise. ;) Was confused at first as I have never had a discovery. Thought i had leveled in the middle of Org or something. :P

評論來自 121775

This is learned by making level 60+ potions. You get some weird message in yellow.

評論來自 64177

Requirements to make a discovery

You must be crafting a potion, elixir, flask or performing a transmutation that was added in TBC.

As a rule of thumb that's anything that is learnt from a master alchemy trainer, dropped from a mob in outland or purchased from a vendor in outland. The only real exceptions are the pre-TBC flasks that have been made available from faction vendors in outland.

NOT requirements to make a discovery

You don't need to be in outland
You don't need a mastery
You don't need to be 375 alchemy
You don't need to be level 70
You don't need to craft yellow or orange recipes to make discoveries. Even grey recipes can proc discoveries
You don't need to be crafting a related recipe *except* in the case of cauldrons (You can discover flasks when making potions for example)

List of recipes learned by discovery (accurate as of 29/01/2008)

Flasks

Potions

Super Rejuvenation Potion

Transmutes

Cauldrons - To discover these you need to be crafting the related major protection potion. Cauldron of Major Holy Protection is believed to be non-existent. The discovery of these recipes is much more likely.
Cauldron of Major Arcane Protection
Cauldron of Major Fire Protection
Cauldron of Major Frost Protection
Cauldron of Major Nature Protection
Cauldron of Major Shadow Protection

評論來自 114332

I discovered this at level 59 while leveling my alchemy with Ironshield pots. I was not aware at the time that you could discover new recipes at random, and was quite surprised.

評論來自 89250

Discovered this while making a few Elixirs of Major Fortitude. Proc'd at 324 skill at level 60, no specialty.

評論來自 189321

My first flask discovery. Discovered whilst creating Super Mana Pots. Pretty handy too, since my alchemist is a Prot Warrior!

評論來自 Kaleb

does anyone know the stats with mixologist? other than 4h duration.

評論來自 126427

I can confirm that you can still discover this flask while making the WOTLK flasks. I got it while making Flask of the Frost Wyrm.

評論來自 261533

Feel free to downrate this or correct me if I'm wrong, but at a glance, it would seem as if this were superior to the new WotLK flask which gives 650 hp. This one gives 150 fewer hit points, but you have 10 defense rating, which equates to around 2 defense @ 80. Now, if you go for the new flask, as soon as you take your first hit, "BAM!" That 150 health is gone. However, the 10 defense rating will be providing just that much more mitigation, it will be applied to your entire health pool during the entire boss fight, which are typically several minutes long.

So I am of the opinion that the new flask just boosts your pool for a bit more, while the old flask has the defense. Defense is the gift that keeps on giving throughout the whole fight. Better, I think.

評論來自 fish10

I discovered this today while making Mighty Shadow Protection Potions. This was quite a surprise since that is a Lich King potion. I didn't think Lich King alchemy would trigger discovery for lower level stuff. Also was surprised since I thought that normally discoveries occurred in the same category.

評論來自 Nachtfrostt

i have discovered this a few minutes ago and just went here to look over what the hell is this. i mean it is kind of surprising when after two years being an alchemist and a transmute master you think there is no potions left to discover and you just found a lotus while finishing your Argent Crusade daily quests and just decided to make a frostwyrm flask and then SUDDENLY it dings and you discover this. i was like "uhm... saturday morning delivers".

評論來自 Allakhazam

I can make these on DarkerKnight, learned while making some stacks of Super Healing Potions. I was already at 375 skill, the pots were gray and I had no specialization just yet.

DarkerKnight on Deathwing, Alliance Side

評論來自 Allakhazam

I was at work and my boyfriend at home (vacation for lvl-ing in BC lol) and obviously he liked the Adepts Elixir i gave him yesterday, so he borrowed my account to make a few stacks... And all of the sudden while making loads of those he discovers this recipe: it says in log "DISCOVERY! Mehduza has discovered the Flask of Fortification recipe!" If it wasnt for the screenshot he sent, i never would have believed him.

BTW! First post!

BTW! The name of the flask according to my recipe-book is "Flask of the Fortification" with a "the" in it.

BTW! I dont wanna be at work, I wanna go home and discover more stuff! :D

評論來自 Allakhazam

Mastery of elixirs will give you chances to make extras. Odds are around 20-25%

評論來自 Allakhazam

Started out at 326 on Alchemy and then I made 5 Unstable Mana Potions just to raise alchemy up some. Got to 328 and then decided to make 5 Elixir of Major Fortitudes after making the fifth I hit 332 and then discovered this recipe. Was standing outside the alchemy building in Orgrimmar and didn't notice anything special to cause this.

評論來自 Allakhazam

Delmariel on Eredar (A) can make these.

評論來自 Allakhazam

PST misamalthea on dalaran if you want this made.
it was the weirdest thing, i was making pots to level up alch in lower city and it looked like i leveled, so i checked the gen chat and bam!
DISCOVERY! Misamalthea has learned Flask of the Fortification!
so i can make it now.
requires 1 fel lotus, 10 mana thistle, 20 ancient lichen, and 1 imbued vial.
lots o mats, but it's worth it.

評論來自 Allakhazam

Well im the only 1 on alliance site on Dentarg with those. I am keeping the price at 95-100g each :) + im elixir

6 out of 10 flasks so far had the 5 others before BC =) Happy potmaking =)

評論來自 Allakhazam

Can make on Bonechewer, Horde side. Kitoria

評論來自 Allakhazam

I can make these on Gilneas, learned while making Adept's Elixir.

Nizbel-Horde Side

Edited, Feb 8th 2007 7:19am by nizbel

評論來自 Allakhazam

yeah i have had this for a while

Teitur- spirestone (A)

usually sell them on ah for 90-100g

評論來自 Allakhazam

On http://www.realmhistory.net you can view who can craft this on your realm or add yourself as a crafter.

評論來自 Allakhazam

...while making a few stacks of Super mana potions. Smolderthorn Horde, ask Carlotta to make your flasks for you!

評論來自 Allakhazam

Discovered at 320 making Adepts Elixir. Not spec in anything.

評論來自 Allakhazam

This popped for me at 329. I wonder what other recipes can be discovered?

評論來自 Thottbot

The new flasks ARE learned by creating potions.

評論來自 Thottbot

Information on BC flasks:
The new flasks can be learned via making potions that you learned in outland. You can not purchase any of the new flasks recipies, you must discover them. The chance to discover a new flask recipie is very very rare, hence dont expect to see one. There is a direct coorilation between the flask discovery and the potion you made when you discovered it. For example, only while making a +attack power potion could you discover a +attack power flask. Also, it does not matter what color (red, yellow, green or grey) the potion is, or what alchemy spec you are, when in regards to discovering flasks.

++Important Update++
It has recently been somewhat proven that there is infact no coorilation between the potion being made when the discovery occured (other then discoveries can only be made via outland potions). Sorry for the confusion.

評論來自 Thottbot

There is no connection as of making +ap pots giving flasks of +ap.

I got this from making 10 super healing pot.

評論來自 Thottbot

Got it by making Super mana pots.
Was lvl 70 and had 375 in alchy.
Real nice!

評論來自 Thottbot

The Gaarth gentleman is right. It is totally random, I was making + dmg pots when I got the AP flask. Just keep farming/making pots and hope really hard you get one. I was 349 alchemy making green potions.

But really, you shouldn't expect to find one. It's a nice thing to have, but it's too random to worth any effort trying to discover it =\

Edit: This post is based on the "For example, only while making a +attack power potion could you discover a +attack power flask." mentionned before. This affirmation is untrue.

Hope it helped =)

評論來自 Thottbot

Thus far, I have made three discoveries.

I was maxed in Alchy at the time of all three. Also, all three were high lvl potions or transmute recipies.

Flask of Relentless Assault
Flask of Shadow Fortification
and one of the Transmute ones

I create a lot of potions, but the chance of discovery IS very rare. I discovered two in two sequential days.... since then, about three weeks, nothing (and I often make 100+ pots at a time).

ALSO, I am not clear whether this is connected to being in/near an alchemy trainer or at the Lab. All three of my discoveries were in Darnass' in the Alchemy supply treehouse.

Limp

評論來自 Thottbot

I received Relentless Assault while making major agility pots. Then seriously 5min later got Arcane Fort. And it's been a month and I havent gotten another. LOL. so totally random.

評論來自 Thottbot

I discovered Assault while mixing Defense/Adept's and one more kind of elixir in Org.

One month later I discovered Fortification while mixing Strength pots in Shat.

Both discoveries occurred at the same time on the server clock.

Both discoveries occurred when I was mixing more than 15 pots of the same type.

The materials are expensive for each pot. Fortification moreso as Ancient Lichen is mostly inside instances.

The insane mana thistle camping continues...

評論來自 Thottbot

But making more than 1 pot will definitely increase your chances... since you discover them WHILE brewing pots.

Just choose a poor guy to do most of the guildmembers pots, and with a bit of luck he'll find one or two while working his ass off in front of the mailbox all day long. ;)

評論來自 Thottbot

Updated Information on BC flasks:
The new flasks can be learned via making potions that you learned in outland. You can not purchase any of the new flasks recipies, you must discover them. The chance to discover a new flask recipie is very very rare, hence dont expect to see one. There is NOT a direct coorilation between the flask discovery and the potion you made when you discovered it. Also, it does not matter what color (orange, yellow, green or grey) the potion is, or what alchemy spec you are, when in regards to discovering flasks.

You can still find the old flasks recipies on Azeroth in instances, and on vendors in Outlands if you have the right rep. However, the new flasks can only be discovered via potion making.
If someone tells you differently, they are misinformed.

(origionaly, it was thought that there was a coorilation between the potion you where making when you discovered the flask. This now appears to be entirely false)

評論來自 Thottbot

Discovered this while making Super Mana Potions this morning :)

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6694/discoverywz0.jpg

I am a lvl 70 Druid, Achimmist specialized into Potions

評論來自 Thottbot

Where's Alchemy Lab?

評論來自 Thottbot

Discovered this whilst making elixirs of draenic wisdom, (made about 30 in one go)

評論來自 Thottbot

I learned this while making Elixir of Major Strength.

評論來自 Thottbot

Discovered this while making super healing potions.

評論來自 Thottbot

got this whilst 369 and making 5 elixr of major defence....sell for 30g but not cheap to make...fel lotus and lichen are cruel drops, i actually learned mine whilst waiting for horde in auberdine, location has nothing to do with it.

評論來自 Thottbot

To confirm previous posts:

You DO NOT have to be 375 alchemist
You DO NOT have to be specced pot/xmute/elixir
You CAN proc while making grey items.

I'm 368 alchemy, no spec yet, made 50 Unstable Mana Pots (grey to me) and procced the recipe on # 47. Yay me.

評論來自 Thottbot

Can make on Bonechewer server Horde side. Kitoria

評論來自 Thottbot

I just learned this today while making elixirs of draenic wisdom. While it is entirely random (I discovered shadow fort while making just 3 elixirs of healing power), each potion does have its own shot at granting a discovery, so I went hog wild with the gathering over the past few days and cranked out over 200 potions in one fell swoop. I discovered this on elixir #153.

評論來自 Thottbot

I was at 312 alchemy today making Adept's Elixir for skillup points and learned it. Was surprising. I'm lvl 60 btw.

評論來自 Thottbot

I just discovered this but you have to make it in an alchemy lab. can anyone please tell me where the lab is?

評論來自 Thottbot

Damn its a shame they nerfed all the flasks i wish they would put them back to normal i mean 500 health? thats barly anything when it was 1500 hp that was much better

評論來自 Thottbot

woot i got this off making elixir of healing power!

評論來自 Thottbot

ha i discovered it as a lvl335 alchemist lvl 62 nice and early :)

評論來自 Thottbot

ha i discovered it as a lvl335 alchemist lvl 62 nice and early :)

評論來自 Thottbot

don't think its all great for everyone, i'm 375 elixir, and have been for at least 100 elixirs and potions, and i've yet to discover ANY new flask/pot/elixir, grats to those of you that did at lvl 51 and with skill of 301, but for the rest of us.. this waiting kinda stinks..

評論來自 Thottbot

still waiting to learn Fortification flask!
so far i can do:

Not all of them are procclearn, u can buy recipes (flasks) when u are Exalted with some areas!

評論來自 Thottbot

I was so puzzled when i first got the DISCOVERY thing! I was making 8 Elixir of Healing Power at lv53, alch lv325... I do believe that there is some link between the Flask you discover to the potion you were making at the time.

Ask Orenishi on Scarshieldlegion and I will be happy to make potions for you! :D

評論來自 Thottbot

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5654/alchemybz4.jpg
im not even speced yet, need to book from botanica to get pot master, guess why i was making the potions above.

評論來自 Thottbot

such randomness, got level 54, corpse-ran to hellfire, started potion making spree. on the last pot i made i learned this. i blame the boars.

評論來自 Thottbot

i was making some adepts elixir thing to level up alchemy, bumped me to 315, and i discovered the flask recipe

評論來自 Itsversayce

Before the consumable nerfs in Patch 2.1.0, this originally gave 1500 health and 30 defense rating, but also required 10 法力薊 and 20 古老青苔 to craft.

評論來自 Strykie

Made over 400 outlands potions and elixirs and yet to see any discovered recipe in burning crusade classic.
If you happen to discover anything, let me know.

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