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Comentado por 366497

Finally an heirloom weapon for all the Enhancement Shamans out there.

Comentado por Dunia

This would give you very good reusable dual-wielding weapons for leveling a Shaman, Rogue, Warrior, & Death Knight.
The only class you could not reuse this weapon for dual wield leveling would be a Hunter.

Depending on what remaining classes you would like to level up, 2 of these maces could likely be the best all-around choice over the daggers or swords if you need to be frugal with your badges, shards, seals, etc. They might not be the optimal stats for each class or spec, but they are certainly viable while leveling.

You could quite easily level every class with 2 Venerable Mass of McGowan, 1 Bloodied Arcanite Reaper, 1 Dignified Headmaster's Charge, and 1 Charmed Ancient Bone Bow.

Too bad Blizz picked this item for their heirloom mace. I would have much rather seen either a Beautiful & Unique Fight Club or a Magnetized Mallet of Zul'Farrak (even though the mallet was not always an equippable weapon, nearly every pre-TBC player had one in their bank)

Comentado por Muir

This has had it's dps reduced to 120.0 at level 80 in the latest ptr patch, all other stats are unchanged.

Comentado por Nighteyes

In general, from what I've seen of heirloom weapons, they will usualy be on-par with a blue item within 1-2 levels below the current level of the character. So while if you do get a dropped item at-lvl and itemized for your class, it will once again be better to use the heirloom a lvl or 2 later.

also, scrolls of weapon enchants are still useable on heirloom weapons.. confirmed personaly with a +7 weapon dmg chant on a weapon vellum 1.. not sure if the Outland and Northrend chants work.. but the old Azeroth ones will stick.

Comentado por dezziedc

This could be good for a twink Rogue? How would this item rate against the standard list of main hands that are considered good for a rogue?

Comentado por 317502

gotta love typo's:

Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 19 (35.29% @ L1).

Comentado por neomasterc

improved version of Mass of McGowan

Comentado por 430449

This thing has 120 some DPS, but now needs its stats changed too. I really hope Blizz finds out about its OP stats to match its lower DPS. Otherwise, i wasted on the Venerable Dal'rend's Sacred Charged b/c of this mace.

Comentado por 427962

Anyone know what will buy These (IE Emblems of Heroism Valor Conquest Triumpth* or If its gonna be bought With Champion's Seals) and if so How Much of Said Currency*?

* Spell Check :)

Comentado por 266285

I believe you're going to buy it with either Emblems of Conquest or Champion's Seals, depending on who you're talking to.

There's a vendor at the Argent Tournament who sells heirlooms to people with the Crusader title for Champion's Seals, while the guys at Dalaran will probably either have the new heirlooms added to their entourage or another vendor will be implemented for them, either way they'll probably cost Conquest emblems due to the way they're changing emblems next patch.

Edit: Any reason why you guys are downranking? At least provide some info about how I'm wrong before downranking.

Edit: As of the release of Patch 3.2.0, it is official that there is a NEW vendor at Dalaran who now has ALL heirlooms, and sells them for Heroism emblems.

Comentado por 229018

I'm almost inclined to think the damage will be reduced, unless i am missing something this BoA item is better then or equal to all 10 man naxx and most of 10 man ulduar weapons(barring hard modes) in terms of raw damage output. The only downside would be the inability to enchant it with proper 80 enchants. Still though, the thing has more top end then Calamity's Grasp.

Don't suppose it really matters though, with the new dungeons naxx is going to be easier then kara was at the end of BC, and Ulduar hardmodes will likely be taking on the same aspect that timed ZA runs had.

Comentado por 361340

Does anyone else think this item name is a bit funny?

Comentado por Rhut

@ 49...

68-127 Damage
(35.0 damage per second)
+6 Agility
+10 Stamina
Equip: Increases attack power by 9.
Equip: Increases critical strike rating by 4.

Compared to other slow weapons in the bracket:
Thrash Blade Bloodrazor Bonesnapper Gryphon Rider's Stormhammer and Ribsplitter with comparable 7/7 agi/stam

So for at least Enhancement shaman, this is now the best weapon in the bracket.

Comentado por 330207

What would be better heirlooms for a levelling rogue, two of these maces, or the pve sword and dagger ?
EDIT: A Troll Combat rogue, to be exact

Comentado por geppel

Can you put windfury or other elemental enchants on it? I only ask because DKs couldn't enchant the arcanite reaper.

Comentado por 201510

2x15agi enchants should work nicely :)

Comentado por Hirru

Are the current stats for a level 1 character? I'm confused to why there is no stats on this weapon, or any of the other newly added bind on account items.

Comentado por 420098

Hi, I am an enhancement shaman. Is there any reason to get two of these rather than two Grimhorn Crushers?

I don't raid, PVP, or do many instances, so my gear options are limited to what I can get solo. I am also not great at figuring this stuff out, so forgive my ignorance. I appreciate any help. Thanks!

Comentado por 260968

From what I've seen of the supplied screen-shots... am I the only one who sees this looking like the Hammer that Thor uses? The Mjǫllnir?

Comentado por Tygeer

Can anyone think of a reason that this costs 15 Champions seals more than Dal'rend's (75 vs 60) but the heroic badge cost is the same for the each(40 padges per)?

Am i missing something?

Comentado por Gawwad

Are shaman enchants (rock biter etc) visible on these if you enchant them with +15 Agility for example?

Comentado por Stigmata

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems superior to Dal'rends in every way except for some tiny stat trade off.

Comentado por ZeroStar

The Currently listed stats are Incorrect.

(Currently listed on Wowhead at Level 80)
Venerable Mass of McGowan
Binds to account
One-Hand Mace
349 - 524 Damage Speed 2.80
(155.9 damage per second)
(1415 feral attack power)
+29 Agility
+44 Stamina
Requires level 1 to 80 (80)
Item Level 1
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 19 (35.29% @ L1).
Equip: Increases attack power by 39.

(According to In-Game at Level 80)
Venerable Mass of McGowan
Binds to account
One-Hand Mace
235 - 436 Damage Speed 2.80
(120.0 damage per second)
(913 feral attack power)
+29 Agility
+44 Stamina
Requires level 1 to 80 (80)
Item Level 1
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 19 (35.29% @ L1).
Equip: Increases attack power by 39.

The damage range is VASTLY lower... And here I had my hopes up! :(
Don't make the same mistakes I did! I had prepped for 80, only to have to change my set-up right when I leveled!

Comentado por 18933

wowhead seems to be mixing up the stats. This is the stats for 2h weapons. On the 2h weapons they list stats for caster weapons. And on caster weapons it lists stats for 1h melee weapons. Just bugged for now

Comentado por Kingrames

I'm not sure if this is still relevant, but a while ago, there were a few shaman healers that were dual-wielding to get two spellpower weapons. Blizzard responded by nerfing all spellpower weapons to be main-hand only. This, however, is a weapon that can be used in the off-hand, so it does in fact change that again. Does it matter? probably not. I imagine talents have changed quite a bit since then but it's a bit of interesting trivia.

Comentado por 456593

never saw this but its pretty nice,i just got crusader title

Comentado por Bluespark

How would dual wielding this as a combat rogue be? good bad or fugly? Thinking about purchasing a set of these for my rogue/shaman leveling.

Comentado por Macharius

would this be a good item for leveling a prot paladin? and if not, what would?

Comentado por lock101

I just had to disagree with an above poster. It might be easier to buy heirloom items with the champions seals, but unless you were already exalted with all your faction's major cities, it can be quite a pain to unlock the Vendor(imo way too much bs to do just to be able to use a vendor) to be able to use the champion's seals on heirloom items. Anyways, I just did pick up 2 of these for my shaman and haven't got to use them yet as my shaman is just 32 atm, just did decide to start leveling a shamy a couple days ago, can't wait until I can dual wield as I've heard its a ball.

Comentado por JohnsonQPew

After the shoulders and chest, this should be your next priority for leveling an enhancement shaman. Ideally, you want to have two by the time you hit 40 and get dual-wield.

The BEST strategy from 1-40 would be to use a 2h heirlooms, either the Bloodied Arcanite Reaper or the Repurposed Lava Dredger. However, if you don't have one of these sitting around -- or you aren't keen on purchasing one for your shaman when it will only see 40 levels of use -- one of these, combined with a nice shield, will do very well for getting you through most of 1-40 (while its twin waits in the bank for the light of day).

The reason is that, unless you're willing to spend gobs of money constantly updating your weapon with twink pieces and other assorted rares, the dps on this weapon as a 1 hander is better than any 2h you can reasonably acquire on the auction house.

I find that MOST green "of the x" 2h weapons have 10 level tiers -- so that you'll find a new selection of green weapons with a level requirement of 11, 21, 31, etc. At the required level -- i.e. at 21 -- the mass is only slightly behind the new green weapons, usually something on the order of half a point of dps. Then, as it scales throughout the next 10 levels, it quickly exceeds the 2handers.

From 1-31, when you're using rockbiter or flametongue, the speed/damage range of the weapon doesn't matter so much. As a result, I think you'll find using a mass with a premium enchant (crusader, lifestealing, fiery, +15 agility) along with a shield will be more convenient and better for most of those 30 levels.

The one exception to this strategy is that when you hit 31, you really want to get a 2hander because the damage range will be more favorable for your new windfury weapon. But, by the time you get to 35-36, you'll find the scaling on the mass has gone up enough that the damage range once again favors using it with a shield for the last 5 levels before dual wield.

Then at 40, pop out your 2nd mass of mcgowan, and enjoy 30+ levels as a hammer twirling god of death!

Comentado por jahf

i ended up buying this with badges and getting the trinket with the seals, rather that wasting the 15 seals on this from crusader vendor.

That post deserves to be marked up (it was at zero). The cost comparison for the Mass vs Trinket:

Venerable Mass
40 Badges
75 Champion's Seals

Balanced Heartseaker
40 Badges
60 Champion's Seals

Trinkets
50 Badges
75 Champion's Seals

If you are trying to max out your BoA purchases using both badges and seals then it is a total waste of 15 Champion's Seals to buy a Venerable Mass with them. Use badges for this weapon.

Comentado por xgold

Wowwiki says:
Classes: Rogue, Shaman, Death Knight, Warrior (levels 20-59), Druid

Questions:
- Why Warrior (levels 20-59)?
- Why not Paladin?

Thanks.

Comentado por Kallech

Wowwiki is oversimplifying things by assuming that the only leveling spec for warriors is fury, and the only leveling spec for paladins is retribution. The random dungeon finder makes it easier to level as alternate specs. And, as you'll see, it's really a matter of spec.

Warriors

Paladins

Levels 1-9, no spec yet: Much like warriors, you'll breeze through these levels with a two-handed weapon.
Levels 10-80, Protection: Again, much like prot warriors, this makes a fine tanking weapon for leveling as prot. Pair it with a nice shield. Have a nice day.
Levels 10-80, Holy: I guess you could wield this, but it's kind of silly to do so. If you're leveling Holy, you're more than likely leveling through healing random 5-mans, and unfortunately (since paladins are barred from using staffs), your only options are the Blessed Hammer of Grace or Devout Aurastone Hammer. Get one of those instead.
Levels 10-80, Retribution: Like Arms, this is built around wielding a two-handed weapon. Might I show you something in our Bloodied Arcanite Reaper line of heirlooms?

Comentado por Zulatomten

Stats @ lvl 19:
29-54 Dmg
(15.0 Dps)
3 Agi
4 AP
4 Stam
2 Crit (0.68%)

Shadowfang Sword
29-55 Dmg + 4-8 Shadow Dmg
(17.8 Dps)
Proc: Shadowy Bolt 30 Dmg

Assassin's Blade Dagger
20-39 Dmg
(15.5 Dps)
3 Str
4 Agi

Legionnaire's SwordHorde / Protector's SwordAlly. Sword
28-53 Dmg
(15.0 Dps)
4 Str
2 Stam

Scout's Blade Dagger
18-34 Dmg
(15.3 Dps)
4 Agi
2 Stam

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Summary:
Venerable Mass of McGowan is a Very good twink weapon on 10-19
If you dont have alot of gold to spend on Shadowfang

Comentado por kalisperis

Great for my tankadin...

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168 - 313 de dano	Velocidade 2.80

(86.00 de dano por segundo)
+29 Agilidade
+44 Vigor

Requer nível 1 to 80 (80)
Equipado: Aumenta em 19 a taxa de acerto crítico.
Equipado: Aumenta em 39 o poder de ataque.

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