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Commento di 1633

Looks like it's only useful if you're allied with the Scryers. Aldor folks should just AH them.

Commento di 11256

It's a repeatable quest to get Reputations with The Scryers (350 for each tome). I farmed about 6 of those in 2 hours at the Manaforges in Netherstorm.

Commento di Alarius

It appears that these are the equivalent of Fel Armaments for the Aldor.

Scryer's save them, Aldor's sell them.

Commento di 25051

Used for reputation with the scryers, can be turned in in Shattrath City

Commento di Tremere1

Ok, Im a level 64 Warlock. I killed these guys around the mana forge for about 2 hours and didnt get a single tome and the only signet I got was off a rare guy. So either these are set to only drop for players above a level higher than mine or I have the worst luck in the world. I killed gaurdsmen, and casters, basicly everything that was around the building there, mostly 68-69 level mobs. I plowed through them at a pretty good pace, they are fairly squishy given thier level compared to mine. I recomend waiting till your 68+ to try to grind for tomes I guess, deffinantly dont try it at 64 or lower. I could understand the tomes being rare but not to see a single signet seemed a little strage to me since the firewing singnets drop like 1 for ever 4 or 5 mobs you kill.

Commento di 17506

These are turned in to Voren'thal the Seer in Shattrath @ 42,91 (upstairs next to the Grand Master Enchanter) for Scryers rep. You get 350 rep per Arcane Tome. You also get an Arcane Rune in return, which is used for shoulder item enchants.

Commento di Sunlesssky

Units have a low drop rate of lower level guys. Firewing point can drop them, but the rate sucks bad. For solo, i suggest West of Area 52 killing the guys there. Those same guys drop Sunfury Signets, https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=30810 . You can get the arcane tomes off higher level guys in Instances, but there is a better chance for you to go solo them at Mana Forge B'Naar.

Commento di 29282

I find that actually farming for the aldor easier, for i got many Fel Armaments and Marks of Kil'Jaeden off the Cabal north of auchindoun, and trading them for Arcane Tomes allowed me to get about 6 or so arcane tomes within about 2 hours.

Commento di 35459

If you are buying items for rep, Sunfury Signet are more cost-effective. At the time of this post, you can buy about 20 Sunfury Signets (500 rep) for the price of 1 Arcane Tome (350 rep). As the market changes, tomes may become more cost-effective, but you shouldn't pay more for a tome than 14x the going rate of a signet, if all you want is rep.

Commento di 35106

I have had very good experience at the Ruins of Karabor. It is northeast of the Sanctum of the Stars in Shadowmoon Valley. I got about 50 Signets and 5 tomes in an hour.

Commento di 38382

At what level can you start turning these in? Or do you have to have a certain amount of rep before you can start turning these in?

Commento di WhisKiTo

I get it from a firewing mob In terokkar :)

Commento di 36567

drop rate off mobs in shadowmoon seems to have been greatly reduced post 2.1.0.

Commento di 91784

How many tomes does it take to get from revered to exalted?

Commento di 24111

I found one in Sealed Box, don't see it listed.

Commento di 112022

If you are honored its about 94 tomes without doing q's...

keep grinding :P

Commento di 82808

The best way to get these is to go to some TK dungeon. Probably the biggest droprates are there and the trash isnt that hard with a group is it? The other oprion i suggest are the Black Temple terraces. There they drop quite often too. Some good coincidence makes me drop them eveetime i come there from the first mob ^^

Commento di 123504

very good drop rate in all the mana forges in netherstorm sells great too

Commento di 128952

i cant turn in my tomes when i go to that voren'thal the seer. there is an white (!) on the top of him and he doesn't say anything about the tomes when i talk to him anyone know what's wrong?

Commento di 128952

you need to be lvl 70 to turn these in!

Commento di 69115

My favorite spot to farm these for when I need shoulder enchants...

Manaforge Duro in Netherstorm. Lots of casters with low armor, easy to steamroll over them as a physical damage class.

Outside the black temple, on the rise tot he north of the Dragonmaw Fortress. They spawn very close together here. Good for AOE farming. They do have a heal however, which heals for a lot and casts fast, need to watch out for that.

Commento di 134095

These also give 175 spillover rep into Sha'tar until you're max friendly 5999/6000.

Commento di 130589

i chouldnt return arcane tome i got attt by some elmentals or something so how can i return it

Commento di 178919

I looted 3 of these in a row at Manaforge B'naar in Netherstorm.

Just got lucky I guess...

Commento di 69029

You could get from Neutral to Exalted with 120 Arcane Tomes or you could collect 1680 Sunfury Signets

Commento di 170735

On my server these babys go for 5-7g :)
No point farming yourself:P

Commento di thesm

I got about 3 of these in 30 mins or less doing dailies in Isle of quel'danis.

Commento di Kinta

On my server at least, the cost for these, and the signets, both plummeted the moment the SSO dalies hit. The Dawnblade mobs drop them both like no tomorrow. Used to be easy to trade a tome for an armament, but now I'm seeing deals popping up like 2-3 tomes for one armament.

As of right now, they're going for 6 gold each, with about 8 pages of them on the auction house.

Commento di 319029

Yeah best place i've found so far to farm these as well as signets are the manaforges west of Area 52 you wont get too many tomes but u get a pretty good amoung of the rings.

Commento di 223475

Arcane Tomes and Fel Armaments are becoming very expensive to buy from AH, there is high demand now, main reason is when you search what enchant can i do to a shoulder item people understand that it is much easier to enchant a shoulder item with the older enchants cause

a) older enchants are cheaper
b) older enchants are only a bit inferior to new ones
c) you need time to get rep with The Sons of Hodir and money plus you might don't know where to even start getting rep with them,
however you probably are already honored at least with Aldor or Scryers so you can go enchant your shoulder item immediately!

compare enchants:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28903
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28881
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=44129

Commento di 247540

How do i get to Tempest keep, if im lvl 65?

Commento di 30273

Scarlet Crusade (Horde) Market Price as of 5/10/09 (I scan 7x a week)
1x Arcane Tome 19g69s (350 rep) + Arcane Rune (56.26g per 1000 rep points)
20x Sunfury Signet 18g56s (500 rep) 99s each (37.12g per 1000 rep points)

Commento di Artoo

To get Exalted from Neutral you need exactly 100x of these.

Commento di 495191

If you're just starting out with the Scryer quests, you'll likely try farming the blood elves in Terrokar first. In an effort to save -a lot- of time and headache, I would recommend just buying the one required for the quest off the AH.

Commento di Fingulfin

Fun macro I made:

/run sig_c=GetItemCount(30810); tome_c=0+GetItemCount(29739); sig_r=sig_c*25; tome_r=tome_c*350;print("Scryers Rep:", sig_r+tome_r);

This will count the amount of tomes and signets you have, multiply the rep value for each (25 per signet, 350 per tome) and then add the two values.

In other words, it counts the amount of signets and tomes you have and tells you how much rep they are worth =D

Commento di Allakhazam

I had one of these drop yesterday, and I do not have any quest for them.

Commento di Allakhazam

I got my first one this morning from a Firewing Defender in Trekkor Forest after killing well over 100 various Firewing mobs. For those of you like me who sometimes miss the mobs buried in the drops list, know that there is a chance, probably not a good chance but a chance, to pickup on one of these long before you move on to the Sunfury mobs.

Edited, Sep 27th 2007 10:11am by FBTS

Commento di Allakhazam

2 = the lvl 64 shoulder enchants, 8 = the lvl 70 ones.

scryers need arcane tomes.

i have 2 of the fel armarments (aldor enchant) for trade for arcane tomes on Horde Bonechewer, contact Heph for straight up 1:1 trade.

Commento di Allakhazam

-These books are used for a Scryers only quest, it is repeatable
-The runes rewarded are redeemed at the Scryers bank for shoulder enchants
-Books are world drop, anyone can find them
-Books are useless to the Aldor except to sell or trade

Before you have turned one of these in there is a quest available that you DO keep in your quest log. You might as well abandon it until you find a book however because all it does is take up space, you can find books whether you are on the quest or not
Once you have turned in one book it becomes repeatable and you cant carry a quest around in your log.

Commento di Allakhazam

who much gold do you get for one on your server?

Commento di Allakhazam

First of all these drop from all blood elf mobs that can drop signets and tome. They are almost same drop rate so no particular mobs can be farmed to get alot of them. They sell approximately for 25g in my server's AH.

If you have never returned any tomes before you can get quest from Scryer's tier in shattrath city. You can get this quest, ofc , if you are with Scryers and not Aldor. The quest givver is in the middle building on 2nd floor. When you complete quest because you returned a tome he will not have "!" anymore but a blue "?" as all repeatable quests are so you can find a tome and return it afterwards. those that are aldor should trade it for Fel armaments but i recommend you selling it THAN buy fel armament because tomes are more expensive.(in my server)

With returning the Arcane tomes you get a type of tocken which you can return for various shoulder enchant in the Scryer's bank. You also get reputation(dont know how much exactly) when you turn in a tome. I bet i cleared everything. Good luck!

Commento di Allakhazam

lol I got it on my 29th kill, who woulda thought =D

Commento di Allakhazam

Too bad that those blood knights are in a group of 4 and defending a 70 elite...

I found them at 52,66 btw

Commento di Allakhazam

running through the firewing camp on my way to another quest when one knocked me off my horse, one of these dropped, 1st kill ever on these mobs, too bad i'm Aldor lol

Commento di Allakhazam

42,91 - Inside the seer's library, 2nd floor

Commento di Allakhazam

running through firewing point doing a quest and i killed a random firewing bloodwarder it dropped i was like awesome,
later killing in kil'sorrow got a fel arnament to drop too xD good thing i'm scryer

Commento di Allakhazam

Arcane Tomes are needed for Scryer reputation as well as when turned in, they give you tokens which can be redeemed for various shoulder enchants.

2 Arcane Runes = Level 64 shoulder enchant (Requires Honored rep with Scryers)

8 Arcane Runes = Level 70 shoulder enchant (Requires Exalted rep with Scryers)

Each Arcane Tome awards you 350 reputation with Scryers).

Each Sunfury Signet awards 25 reputation when turned into Magistrix Fyalenn right outside the main Scryer building. You can also alternatively turn in 10 Sunfury Signets for 250 reputation.

Hope this resolved any and all issues brought to anyones attention when happening to stumble across these said items.

- Kryptik Horde (US) Terokkar

Edited, Mar 4th 2007 2:43pm by Kryptk

Commento di Allakhazam

Do you have to have the quest in order for these to drop?

Commento di Allakhazam

I bought one in an AH for 2g and some change.

Commento di Allakhazam

Are they only use for Scryers Quest?

Commento di Thottbot

Used for the Scryers' shoulder Enchants.

Commento di Thottbot

Do these drop without the associated quest being in your journal?

Commento di Thottbot

If your level 70 and need more Scryer faction then head to the tempest keep with a nice party. You will see about 2-5 drop an instance.

Solo grinding just farm them in Netherstorm.

Terokar Forest isn't the best option. I farmed 2 levels when TBC was released from 60.. Luckily i had nice mage gear from naxx so had no problems. By the end of my second level i'd collected 6 tomes and about 500 rings.

Prices varey on the AH. Expect to pay 10-15g for them, but don't pay more imo

Took about 10 days to ding Scryer Exalted through trade, farming and instance running (60-70). One of the easier factions to ding exalted with

Commento di Thottbot

These are turned in to Voren'thal the Seer in Shattrath @ 42,91 (upstairs next to the Grand Master Enchanter) for Scryers rep. You get 350 rep per Arcane Tome. You also get an Arcane Rune in return, which is used for shoulder item enchants.

Commento di Thottbot

Fel Armaments drops off demons in most high level areas. (Also low area, but much lower drop rate there.) Arcane Tomes drop off blood elves in most high level areas. (Eclipsion Point in Shadowmoon, all the Manaforges in Netherstorm.)

Commento di Thottbot

These seem to be hard to keep track of, so here is a summary of which tokens go where:

Aldor:
Mark of Kil'jaeden 25 rep Adyen the Lightwarden, Aldor Rise, Shattrath
Mark of Sargeras 25 rep Adyen the Lightwarden, Aldor Rise, or
Harbinger Saronen, Altar or Shatar, SMV
Fel Armament 350 rep Ishanah, Aldor Rise

Scryer:
Firewing Signet 25 rep Magistrix Fyalenn, Scryer Rise, Shattrath
Sunfury Signet 25 rep Magistrix Fyalenn, Scryer Rise, or
Battlemage Vyara, Sanctum of the Stars, SMV
Arcane Tome 350 rep Voren'thal the Seer, Scryer Rise

The Marks of Kil'jaeden or Firewing Signets can no longer be turned in after you reach Honored reputation. Turning in the Fel Armaments and Arcane Tomes also rewards you with Holy Dust or Arcane Runes that can be turned in at the faction quartermaster (found in the faction's bank) for your choice of shoulder slot enchantments.

Don't sell a Tome or Armament if you can't use it - trade it 1:1 for the one you need - you'll often hear this happening on global and trade chat.

For detailed lists of Aldor and Scryer rep quests, vendors, etc., see the Faction and Reputation section at: http://www.#$%^&*!@#$.com/wow/burning.html

Commento di Thottbot

Not necessarily...I'm human and when I turn in these signets one at a time as opposed to ten at a time, I get 28 rep sometimes, so I think regardless it works out anyways and it's not that big of a deal...

...well, at least for impatient people. :P

Commento di Thottbot

Every other single turn-in will say it gives 27, then the next will give 28, then 27, and so on. It *actually* gives 27.5 each time, but the game just rounds it off on screen instead of visibly tracking the decimals.

Commento di Thottbot

As soon as players are exalted and have their enchant, they won't need them anymore, but still loot them --> prices will drop considerably. Expect 5g each on AH if you have the patience to wait until everyone else is exalted, and give them away.

Commento di Thottbot

You get reputation with Sha'tar if you're not already honored with them (and although it doesn't appear in the chatlog, verify the reputation pane and you'll see it)

1x Arcane tome = 175 Sha'tar reputation

Commento di Thottbot

These Arcane Tomes drop also in Terokkar Forest, by the mobs at firewing point.

Commento di Thottbot

ok this is prolly a nub question, but... is the only way to get friendly with scryers is turning in the arcane tomes? because i'm neutral with them and i can't turn in any of the signets. Plz help me i'm so confused.

Commento di Thottbot

How many of these bad boys does it take to get from Revered to Exalted? ty in advance :D

Commento di Thottbot

It will take 60 Arcane Tomes to get from Revered to Exalted (21,000 reputation). At at least 10-15g per tome, you're looking at a 600g+ cost.

Commento di Thottbot

got 5 tomes in about 15 mins from blood elves around manaforge duro :p

Commento di Thottbot

The absolute BEST place I have found to farm for both the Tomes and the Sunfury Signets is the right-hand wing of the Black Temple (can't remember the name off the top of my head) where the initiate demonhunters are going to town against one another. As a tankadin, I regularly pull 6-8 of these guys and usually pickup 2-3 signets and .25 Tomes. In an hour yesterday I earned 32 Signets and 5 Tomes. Plus all the gold they drop and they drop MONSTROUS amounts of Netherweave,which sells easily on the AH for 4+ gold a stack.

Commento di Thottbot

They are dropping like candy i find now. In general money is flooding in much more then it had been...

I suspect they are doing the same sort of thing they appeared to do before TBC release, and increasing the players equipment and money before ToLK release.

This is also evident by the proposed changes to PvP in the next patch, no diminishing returns on PVP kills = easier to gain PvP equipment... same as prior to TBC, only that was the introduction of the honor/marks currency system.

The next patch notes also include other items which makes one think they want people richer and better geared asap, BoE drops from world bosses anyone?.

Perhaps i am speculating over something they have announced? I have not however, seen anything about it.

Commento di Thottbot

i just handed in handed in 69 of these tomes and got only 4000 into revered :( thought i would have been exalted lol. im level 64.

Commento di Thottbot

Easiest place to farm these babies is on the Isle of Quel'danas. Look for Marksmen and snag them whenever you can. The marksmen themselves are pretty weak and do don't a lot of damage (hits me for about 300~ mail). Another good place to farm these is in Manaforge B'naar. Kill the engineers specifically.

Hope this helps. =)

Commento di Thottbot

wow i tried getting it off the warp engineers and then i killed them all then i decided to kill the captin and it drop off of him

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