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1.	Le repaire des Crins-de-givre
2.	Les rapports

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Commentaire de swotam

This quest rewards 150 Ironforge reputation and 150 Gnomeregan Exiles reputation as of patch 2.01

Commentaire de 6107

This requires you to go to the very southern tip of the cave, to the part that looks like a "C" west of the room with the frozen pond in it.

Commentaire de 10936

Continue Quest Text (from Senir Whitebeard):

"You can't find it? My directions were very clear! We don't have much time, you've got to hurry! Don't come back until you've found the cave."

Complete Quest Text (from Senir Whitebeard):

"Ah, <name>! I didn't think you'd have much trouble finding the place, my directions are excellent, you know...

"Let me just finish up my report then."

<He brings out some paper and scribbles on it momentarily.>

"There! Well, haha, now this certainly is funny... I don't suppose, <name>, that you would mind doing one last favor for me?"

Commentaire de 41725

Frostmane Hold is 26,51
The entrance to the cave is 24,50

Commentaire de 43354

Soloed this as a LvL 8 rogue. Just hug the walls, stealth and you should be okay. However don't miss the chance to grind your way through for some nice XP.

Commentaire de 80100

You get it fully explored at 21,51

Commentaire de 34796

The nearest graveyard is in Kharanos, so if you die it is an annoyingly long run back.

Commentaire de 128842

Easyest to kill them is in cawe...

Commentaire de 62855

And add that they respawn very quickly, so running away and living is nearly impossible. All in all, it's pretty annoying.

Commentaire de 74218

It is actually relatively simple if you know how to do it. As soon as you go in the cave you can either go to the left or right. Pick the left path; it will lead you to a ledge. Jump down and head towards the right. At exactly 22,52 the quest should be completed.

Commentaire de 146853

This is quite hard... well at least it was as lvl 7 rogue

Commentaire de ecartman

I refuse to do these quests the runback from the GY is a joke and at level 7 you just don't have enough firepower to wander in the cave I level faster just grinding at low levels rather than a 4 minute runback to die again in the cave,

Commentaire de 135292

They where hitting me for about 10-13 instead of the 6-8 from the surrounding animals of equal level, in most cases I came away from killing a single troll with only 10-20% life left...And lets not even talk about aggro range !_!

This is one of those quests that make me think "What if I was someone who had just started playing the game and this was his first ever char" Not exactly the best way to "wow" new customers.

Commentaire de 134034

This quest is very annoying to do aggro range = huge, damage from trolls = huge, and they spawn fast. Also the run back is long and annoying

Commentaire de 88576

this quest is just unbeliveably stypid. its amazing how hard it is to get the 5 headhunters cause they are never there and then its stupid that the hold havent 1 spot you can find it at. searched now for 3 hours and havent still found it no matter how many comments i've followed.. a complete waste of time

Commentaire de hellsslayer

this quest might be one of the most annoying in all of azzeroth...
as a lvl 8 rogue i went into the cave stealthed. i went right at the first fork and jumped off the ledge. i then proceeded to continue to the back of the cave. there was a narrow passage and i couldnt make it through without being detected. the troll saw and attacked me i died. my first death.
then i resuredted at the very back of the cave where there was a chest. i attempted to get it but the shadowcaster saw me and killed me. my second death. then i rezzed once more and tried again this time trin to kill the shadowcaster before i got the chest. no luck i got him to about 5% and died
i then rezzed for the fourth time and was forced to hearth out... i died once more later when i tried killing the headhunters i attacked one and about 5 came and killed me after i killed the headhunter.
this quest was 6 deaths for a lvl 8 rogue i can only immagin how bad it must have been for cloth wearers...
blizzard should get rid of this quest.

Commentaire de 188789

I didn't bother to kill the trolls inside the cave. I just killed 5 headhunters in the shimmer ridge during the quest where you had to get shimmerweed and just ran through the cave. Died 3 times.

Commentaire de Lynlee

Lvl 9 Warlock just did this quest.. Follow nukedoom's instructions above. No problem with the Aggro aura. I faught 2 at once, 2 times. Feared one and killed the other. Anyone with Stealth or a pet can do this easily. Good Luck!

Commentaire de 232291

This is one of those quests that make me think "What if I was someone who had just started playing the game and this was his first ever char" Not exactly the best way to "wow" new customers.

Funny that you should say this. Today was my first time ever playing WoW.

It's refreshing to know that most of the quests aren't as annoying as this one is. I found the difficulty of this particular dungeon to greatly contrast with it's surroundings. The enemies are stronger, more aggressive, and smarter. Playing as a dwarf hunter, I died twice around level 6. I think most people who have never done this quest will go in unprepared.

I found the dungeon to be far enough into the game that the player will know how to play the game (what attacks and spells to use, what the controls do, etc.) but a little early for something this challenging. Are we supposed to team up with other players this early in the game? Or is this just a way to push people into leveling up? Either way, I'm not going back until I have some back up; either another player, or a pet bear.

Commentaire de 129597

Hey, Wow is multiplayer game! If you can't do it alone, call friends. Yes, this is a hard quest - for a 1 ppl. But for 2-3 ppl - its easy.

Commentaire de Demonoidal

This was my first account and time through the Hold and I didn't find it all that hard. I used a level 9 Mage without any special gear.

Conjure a ton of food and drink before you go in, at least 20 of each. Apply buffs and head in. Get a single troll within the very edge of your Frostbolt and then unleash Frostbolt, Fireball, Arcane Missiles, Fireball, and then what ever you need to clean up. If they try to run away, pop them with a Fire Blast. Rinse and repeat with next troll stopping to eat and drink when ever you need to. If you pull an extra troll, Polymorph the extra and finish off the first.

You don't race through the Hold but I even killed the level 11 guy with the silver dragon around his picture.

And there is a much closer graveyard now.

Commentaire de 347891

easy quest i was lev 16 when i did it wait to you are higher lev easy

Commentaire de 343182

But what if you dont have carbonite were does it end

Commentaire de 343182

yeah umm what server are you on if you are on Jubei'Thos i can help you i am a level 9 dwarve hunter and i cant even complete the quest

Commentaire de MatadorBID

I remember doing this quest waaay back on my first toon, a gnome Warlock. I walked into the cave, but all of a sudden the loading screen came up. I ended up in the entrance cave of a level 60 AV that was about to start! Battlegrounds had just been released and I had no clue what was going on since I was only around level 9 at the time. I had to get my irl friend, a level 60 Mage to rescue me.

Good times, Vanilla, good times.

Commentaire de 165543

u can do the fully explore by running in naked dieing running back rez ahead and then keep on running 2 get fully explore frostmane hold

Commentaire de 173300

It's a MMORPG guys :)
Bring a healer , extra dps and it al goes smooth !

Commentaire de 451373

I had no problems with my level 8 mage. I made sure I had lots of mana potions and just picked them off one by one. It took longer than it would have if I had gone in with a group, but it wasn't that hard.

Commentaire de 377016

Agreed w/ those who thought this challenging. I just dinged 8 as a mage, so all I had with frostbolt firebolt and the fire instant cast. i died about 4x before getting the explored. Three factors make this an usually tough quest for the level
1) Humanoid mobs, closely packed - they run away and bring friends typicaly
2) Ranged and melee attack
3) Huge aggro radius
4) Lots of damage

Usually i would finish one, drink 2x, repeat. Pulls have to be extremely careful. Plus lots of pats. Not to mention the long run to and from the questgiver.

So...if you find this one hard, wait a few levels or skip it. There is a 11 elite there, but he owned me as a weakly level 8.

Commentaire de 312797

This quest was tough on my prot pally. Sometimes I wouldn't dodge or parry an attack and I'd get hit for 1-2 damage. Even though I could 1 shot everything I had a difficult time clearing all the troggs.

Commentaire de 491449

This is the most anoying and the HARDEST quest ever -.- i was a lvl 7 mage when i started , i went into the cave being stealthy and going around the mobs at the huts , maybe a few mobs will atack u but no matter , i went in then and attacked a Headhunter ..i died i went in as a ghost and quickly resed and ran into the cave and got to about 50% of the cave and died ... then i went in agan as a ghost and got to the ledge there was some Great Father Arktics a rare mob and i resed there and didnt get Explore then i died ... i had like 130 hp with less than 100 armor OMG i got all items on durabilty 0 and i tried to get Explore as a ghost and still dint get it .. after a few hours i killed 5 Headhunters HOORAY =) but i didnt get Explore i dont get that -.- was lvl 9 when i killled the 5 headhunters ..so DONT DO THIS QUEST!

Commentaire de 466565

Best to do before lvl 10.
As soon as you kill 5 headhunters, just run trough the cave like Nukedoom said:

As soon as you go in the cave you can either go to the left or right. Pick the left path; it will lead you to a ledge. Jump down and head towards the right. At exactly 22,52 the quest should be completed.

When you explore, you can die, you simply res at the spirit healer (no penalty as you're lvl <10) that's much now. Return the quest and whoopetydoop.

Commentaire de 552079

this quest is friggin ridiculous for the level you do it at

Commentaire de Thottbot

you need to head into the cave behind the huts. enter and head to your right until it says "Fully Explore Frostmane Hold" complete.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Yeah, I experienced the same thing last night on the Durotan server. I thought it was awfully strange when I entered the cave and it changed all my channels to Alterac Mountains and said I had entered Winterax Hold in Alterac Valley. Looked up Alterac Mountains on the map to make sure I wasn't crazy. Same thing happened when I died. I didn't realize there were creatures that had ? for their level. Talk about getting owned.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Coords are 24,50 (south west of Brewnall village)- it is NOT the cave at shimmer ridge (41,34 - NE Brewnall village / Iceflow lake)

Commentaire de Thottbot

Even though you might not have seen the pop-up that says that the quest is complete that doesnt mean anything. I bet that half of you that had actually gone a full circuit from right all around and came out the left, had actually completed the quest and didn't notice it. All of you should check your quest log and see if you had actually completed it or if there really is a bug, because I have done this quest on 3 different occasions with my warrior, rogue, and mage and have never had a problem

>>I am in the Mannoroth Server<<

Commentaire de Thottbot

21,51

Commentaire de Thottbot

You need to get to 21,52 inside the cave at Frostman Hold. It's the one in the valley not the one up in the mountains.

Commentaire de Thottbot

--Getting There--
Walk the long way to the middle of Iceflow lake (33,42) and kill all normal animals you may encounter. Once you arrive at the Camp Brewnall Village (29,46) Head south West to the cave "FrostMane Hold" (24,50).

--Part 1 (Kill all 5)--
When you start see see trolls slowly pull the outside defenders 1 by 1 and then make it to the cave. just keep pulling them and killing them untill all 5 are slain.

--Part 2--
For this i reccomend if you have any items or food that will increace stamina use them now. SImply kill the forst 3-4 in the cave so its safe (carefull not to get mobbed by 2) and then run as fast as possible to the end of the entrace passage. Jump down from there onto the ice and run around that snow/ice mound in the middle and it SHOULD say (Quest Frostmne Hold - Area Discorver) or something and then you will probably die but that doesnt matter because you are under 9 simply talk to the Spirit Healer and walk the 30 feet to the quest hand in and theres 750 exp.

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Commentaire de Thottbot

A kamakaze dash around the cave is the first time it's made sense to this young Paladin to use devine prot. And if you die the trot back will use up 4/5 of the cooldown!

Commentaire de Thottbot

25,50

I don't know why its so hard to get exact cords... Here's the real cords

Commentaire de Thottbot

Possibly to make Map? Usualy play`s on Horde and this is my first Gnome. So can anyone make a map to where it is? (I sawe many said "to southwest, to north" and many things liekt hat, but from where?)

Commentaire de Thottbot

is it only one place to go? i thougth it was like 3 difrent places

Commentaire de Thottbot

Unlike other investigates, this one says fully. This means you must go all the way in. Follow the directions as given to the right. Less Mobs that way. You must go all the way to the back where the little plateau is in the middle of the cave. You must venture behind the plateua to get the disco complete.

Commentaire de Thottbot

i cant find it south of gnomeregan all i find is leper gnomes and big cranks

Commentaire de Thottbot

Forgot, the coords are 24-50 to enter the hold(just west of Kharanos) and the coords for the Explore are 21-51

Commentaire de Thottbot

Level 8 dwarf paladin. I really hate this quest. Died several times considering I'm forced to res back in the middle of 3 mobs or spirit res :s

Commentaire de Thottbot

u can go to shimmer ridge for the head hunters, but the cave there is not the right 1. u need to go southwest of brenwall villege 4 the right cave

Commentaire de Thottbot

You can also explore the cave while ur dead

Commentaire de Thottbot

27,51 its also a good place to do A Favor for Evershine
everything u need is there

Commentaire de Thottbot

Rogue: Stealth in and follow the east road up until discovered. And bring some puts if you havnt already killed the 5 headhunters.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I don't think anyone can deny this quest is really tough. Pulling more than one is very easy and in most cases hard to survive. Seeing a sea of bodies there isn't rare either.

Since you can die and spirit res easily at this level, this is what I always do. I did this on cloth classes as well:

Kill 5 headhunters in the mounth of the cave. If you get in a pinch, easy running away. When you killed them all, from the entrance of the cave, you can chose between going left or right. Go right, run straight through. Don't pull if it's not necessary, but it doesn't matter if you do pull. Run straight through; when you get in a large chamber, with in front of you a ledge, go RIGHT around it (not left!) and continue to run. This is where you'll get Fully Explore Frostmane Hold. Now look back and enjoy how a doze of trolls kill you.

Spirit res and voila. Not gonna sob for those 10s max repair costs.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I've been trying to do this quest since i was level 7/8!
I'm level 10 now, and i still can't do it! I'm gonna go try it again after reading your tips so thankyouu :D

Commentaire de Thottbot

There are many of us that don't have coords, but I know it would help a lot with locating quests. How do I add the coords to WoW? I downloaded them but they're not there :S

Commentaire de Thottbot

If this helps anybody, I ran in and got the "explored Frostmane Hold" message. It works, but it'll end up killing you. I almost made it out alive, but I ran into a "Great Father Artikus" or something like that. Needless to say, I died.
This was done on Kael'thas server, with a level
8 paladin.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Go to the cave directly southwest of Brewnall Village. The Cave is called Frostmane Hold. There is also a rare troll, level 11 in the Hold. I forget his name, sorry ;( You need to go to the right and go down the slope to the middle to get the "Explore Frostmane Hold" part done. I just ran through everything once I had the 5 Headhunters dead. I ran down to the middle at the bottom of the slope. I let them kill me, spirit Rezzed. (You don't get Rez Sickness if you are below level 10) and repaired. Then turned it into quest-giver. (He is right next to where you rez).

Commentaire de Thottbot

Where are i leav the Quest? :P

Commentaire de Thottbot

what lvl are the monster at the hold?

Commentaire de pibbz

The prequests for this quest to show up is the following from the Coldridge Valley (Dwarf/Gnome starting area)

1. The Troll Cave
2. The Stolen Journal
3. Senir's Observations
4. Senir's Observations

Some of these quests are missing from wowhead after the cataclysm. I'll fix the formatting so the quests are linkable once classic goes live.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Don't you have to kill 5 headhunters to complete this quest?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Only 600 exp for a lvl 9 rogue.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I finished this tonight after a few deaths. There is a curved path between the two large rooms. The midway point of that path was the spot where it gave me exploration compleat.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I am a Level 8 Dwarf Warrior. I am not able to find the cave entrance. I was wondering if someone could give me some coordinates to the cave entrance.

Thnx
Xfac

Commentaire de Allakhazam

What's the key to getting this quest to register you have 'explored the hold'? I've run all around the dungeon twice now (died both times) and it still doesn't register I've been there. Anyone know?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I'm a lvl 9 hunter and when i try going through the door 2 of them come at me and i die

Commentaire de Allakhazam

These guys basically owned me when my hunter was level 9. Now he is 14 and just tamed Bjarn for a pet. I killed everything in there, and just for fun sent bjarn in on that camp in the beginning and he tanked all 5-6 while I killed them. I'm just that pety lol.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Just did it today as a Lvl. 8 warlock.

Unless you have other quests to complete out in the area, it might be advantageous to make the Kharanos tavern your 'home', saving you some return travel time when you turn in the quest.

As mentioned below, correct path will be the second left once entering the cave... (immediately after the first left). You will come to a ledge that looks down on a pathway with two mobs below. Initially, I made the mistake of using a ranged attack, thinking one of mobs would just jump the ledge. Unfortunately, it ran the 'long way around' and ended up dragging 5 or 6 mobs with him. After dying, I came back and jumped down with the 2 mobs before attacking them (looking down from the ledge and to your left there should be enough space so you won't immediately aggro the first mob). After killing the 2 mobs, i followed the path (only 1 direction possible at this point) into the large room, hitting up the chest on the way. Right -before- I entered the main room, I received the 'exploration complete' message, and then hearthed back to the tavern in Kharanos.

Edited, Sun Jan 22 16:40:14 2006

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Bit weard how they all gang up on you... I died and kept rezzing then dieing again. Not very fair.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Okay so I am playing my lvl 9 mage. I got into the cave and stick to the right. then you end up in a huge room with the warlock sorta troll in the center. fight stuff in there till you "fully discover". It was a peice of cake!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

yea i cant find a way to finish this quest either.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

There's a ledge somewhere near the entrance. A chest usually spawns there, I accidentally fell and killed two trolls below. I backed up to the edge because I was low on health, but as soon as I started running into a very open area, the exploration was done.

As soon as you enter, turn left and off the little ledge.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this quest is so easy

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Don't confuse this mission with The Perfect Stout mission which has you gather Shimmerweeds on Shimmerwood Ridge (or something like that). There is only one Head Hunter there, and he spawns only once every five minutes or something.

For this mission of Frostmane Hold, make sure you're in Brewnall Village and then go directly southwest and you will run into the trolls and their cave.

I don't think the exploration part is in effect anymore. Just kill at least 5 Head Hunter type trolls and you should be good to go.

Edited, Sat Jan 1 21:14:57 2005

Commentaire de Allakhazam

You need to enter the very back of the cave to trigger the 'explore the hold'.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Did this with a level 8 Priest. Just put up my power word shield, ran down the middle path and off the ledge. Run as far into the big room as possible.Right before i died, i got the exploration complete message. Rezzed and hearthed back to Kharanos. Not too hard if you know where you're going.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I went into the cave, and veered a little left (a hard left isn't the way to complete the quest, but there is a chest that paath).

Going this way, I lept of a ledge, and as previously posted, killed 2 mobs and moved along the tunnel a few feet and got the completion msg.

For those cosmos ppl like myself, loc is 22,52

Commentaire de Allakhazam

For some reason I have diffuculty taking on more then one Frostmane Headhunter! I dunno why even, I'm a Level 9 Dwarf Warrior, and I can take a decent hit I guess, but they deal out like 9-10 Damage to me. And I've got like over 200 HP so I don't see why I can't finish this quest faster. All I have yet to do is Explore Fully, then I'm done. I'll finish it tonight, its just really annoying dying becuase these few Headhunters practically rape me.... Any tips?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Thanks for all the helpful hints on this. Having to 'fully explore' the hold blows.. I'm running a lvl 10 gnome warrior on her own, and though I was able to toast 5 headhunters I cannot survive the 'gangs' in the cave on my own. Pfft. I'll be back with friends.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

The Entrance to the cave is at 21,50 Atlas Co-ords

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I ran into the same problem. Seems to be a bug - which I hope someone fixes!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Entrace to the Cave is 25,50 Atlas

Commentaire de Sipder2

How to complete Le repaire des Crins-de-givre:

accept quest /way 46,69, 53,85
enter the cave /way 25,21, 50,90
kill 5x Chasseur de têtes Crins-de-givre
go to /way 23,07, 52,15
jump down for fully explore frostmane hold
follow the path to the right and exit the cave
return quest /way 46,69, 53,85

Video guide: https://youtu.be/bRve6_yVZos

Commentaire de Dreadalous

Free Tip: For the 'Fully Explore Frostmane Hold' part once inside the cave go straight ahead and u should see a large open cavern with a drop off. Just go left there a few yards and easy peesy.

Commentaire de eboe

Note to self for later: STOP GOING UP ON SHIMMER RIDGE FOR THIS, FOOL. Lol. I always make that mistake and die like 3 times in the process trying to hit just the right area to trigger the "explore" part of the quest. IDK what is wrong with my brain.

Commentaire de Erunehtar

The quest Les observations de Senir is NOT required to be able to accept this quest.

Commentaire de Rhynchelma

In Classic, is not a prerequisite. Level 7s can pick it up directly.

Commentaire de xLunacyx

After entering, you take a right, and brush up against that central higher up area to get fully explored.

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Le repaire des Crins-de-givre

Explorer le repaire des Crins-de-givre et tuer 5 Chasseurs de tête Crins-de-givre pour Senir Blanchebarbe à Kharanos.

	Chasseur de têtes Crins-de-givre tué (5)
	Explorer Zone (1)
	Explorer entièrement le repaire des Crins-de-givre (1)

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Je suis sur mon rapport et j'ai besoin de votre aide, <nom>. Je viens juste de trouver où se cachent les trolls, mais ils sont si nombreux que j'ai peur d'y aller.

Voici ce que j'attends de vous... Allez à la grotte, entrez, tuez quelques trolls et revenez ici.

Prenez la route au nord de Kharanos, puis quand vous arriverez au pont, longez la rivière gelée par l'ouest jusqu'au Lac glacial. Vous trouverez le village de Brassetout sur la rive ouest. Leur repaire est au sud-ouest du village.

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	Robe d'hiver chaude		Targe en pierre

Vous recevrez également :

	Targe en pierre		Robe d'hiver chaude

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Lors de l'achèvement de cette quête vous gagnerez :

150 points de réputation avec Forgefer
150 points de réputation avec Exilés de Gnomeregan

Vérifiez si vous l'avez déjà terminé en tapant :

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(287))

Le repaire des Crins-de-givre

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