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Comentario de 136810

This is the bread and butter seal, especially in early levels. If you don't want to dig into the Retribution talent tree, this is your seal for melee holy DPS. Two-handed weapons add more holy damage on hits than one-handers.

After level 6, throw down Seal/Judgment of Crusader then put up your Seal of Righteousness for maximum holy DPS on a single target.

Comentario de persiarash

Judgment of Righteousness also delivers a nice packet of threat, of course that effect is boosted through the talent Improved Righteous Fury which boosts Righteous Fury.

Also the slower your weapon is, the more Holy damage is added to your damage.

Comentario de JamieK

I personally like this seal, over Seal of Command....believe it or not, i like this one more cause it bloody procs every hit.

From experience, by the time the crappy SoC proc'ed a single time, this seal had matched or did slightly more or less damage.

Maybe its a level 70 seal, but at level 20, SoC sucks big time..

Comentario de 169060

Is this the seal that make ur char like having wings on back? is it? just asking..pretty cool having wings..XD

Comentario de Theyos

For those wondering what all the letters mean in the description:
MWS = base weapon speed
SPH = holy spell power
AP = attack power

Comentario de Syphid

In the latest Wrath Beta build, this and every other seal's duration was increased to two minutes, and none of the seals are consumed by the new Judgment spells.

Comentario de 109245

Entering some numbers in the formulae given in the tooltips i got following numbers for the bonus damage done every hit:

Seal of Righteousness: 840

Seal of Blood: 431,55

Seal of Command: 352,43

138 DPS weapon
3.5 speed
3000 AP
900 spellpower through the Sheath of Light talent

(v3.0.1.8714)

Either i got the math wrong, forgot something important (crit maybe?) or Blizzard has yet some work to do to get these balanced :P

Comentario de 160281

So according to the above posts, this does more dmg w/slower weapons, so in LK prot pallies will be using slow warrior/rogue weapons to maximize Hammer of the Righteous. Woohoo, time to go ninja some ^&*! :D

EDIT: Although it does look like its a bit unbalanced atm, I can't see them removing AP scaling, since our gear will now be synced w/Warrior/DK gear which will have STR on it for threat and block value.

Comentario de Athene

The formula for SoR seems wrong to me.
With my 2500 AP, 750 spell dmg and 3.5 wpn speed I should get an avg damage of 390 per hit, but I don't even hit 300 on the beta server.
Alot ot the ingame tooltips give me wrong damage numbers, so I guess Blizz is just lazy updating the tooltips and official formulas:\

Comentario de JamieK

the simple solution is to make Seal of Command work on EVERY hit.

problem solved.

Comentario de bghs2003

This seal compared to Seal of Vengeance/Corruption:

In order for this seal to do more dps than a fully stacked SoV/Cor you need to have 50% more spell power than attack power

SP = 1.5 AP

A fully stacked judgment of SoV/Cor will always do more damage than a judged SoR equal to 1/80th of your attack power and 2% of your spell power

.02 SP + .0125 AP

Granted, it can take a little while to get a full stack on SoV/Cor so keep that in mind

This seal compared to Seal of Blood/the Martyr:

In order for this seal to do more dps than SoB/M your weapon damage per second, factoring in your crit chance, needs to be less than 20% of your spell power plus 10% of your attack power

.2 SP + .1 AP = WDPS * (1 + Crit%)

In order for this judgment to do more damage than a judged SoB/M your weapon damage needs to be less than 32% of your spell power and 20% of your attack power

.32 SP + .2 AP = WD

Comentario de 241537

Just wondering but is this still the default spell for a holy pally?

Comentario de Ilmryn

I just did a small test and found out that the spell still benefits from both Spellpower and Attack power but in fact not from weapon speed.

I was using The Turning Tide while doing the "Blowing Hodir's Horn" in Storm Peaks. The weapon speed was 1.68 (item +haste).

Without BoM = hits for 216/217.
With BoM = hits for 250/251.

When i added 145 spellpower through the use of a trinket (while still having BoM on) it hit for 265 constantly.

Using Judgements of the Pure or any other way to increase the weapon speed did not seem to affect the numbers at all.

My two cents.

-Ilm

Comentario de flameroller

The gutting of spell power scaling on this spell needs to be reverted instead of giving a 25% damage increase to all judgments (leaving the ap scaling as it is now) or perhaps change it to "Increases the bonus spell power of your seal and judgment spells by 25%" meaning instead of (1+0.2*AP+0.32*SPH) it would be (1+0.2*AP+0.57*SPH). Currently with 2k sp judgment with this seal would do (human level 80 atp is 522 naked) (1+0.2*522+0.32*2000) = 745 untalented (931 with judgments of the pure). My way makes it deal 1245 (2490 crit) which is very little at 80 and only slightly higher than it used to be with 1k spell power!

P.S. My attack power is very likely off by 10 or so as I can't see exactly what it is since I can't play and my pally is still 70 (I'm poor :'[ ) so I'm using a character developer (chardev.org). End results will probably only be off by a few

Edit: Changed crit figure to reflect ranged crit bonus rather than spell

Comentario de 256123

Patch 3.0.9 notes:

Paladins

* The duration on all Seals has been increased to 30 minutes and can no longer be dispelled.

Taken from http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/

Comentario de 314926

A tip: use faster weapons if u want more damage. (eg for tanks)
If u hit more with the weapon u will have more damage dealt by the Seal of Righteousness. Of course, damage dealt will be smaller if u have slower weapon, but its already better damage.

Comentario de 353175

Holy damage does not decrease depending on magic resistance and armor. Good variant agains the tanks classes!

Formulas

MWS = 1.8 (fast) 2.6 (slow)
AP = 500
SPH = 500

Formula for Seal of Righteousness strikes - MWS*(0.022*AP + 0.044*SPH)
fast weapon: 1.8*(0.022*500 + 0.044*500) = 1.8(11 + 22) = 1.8*33 = 59
by the 27 sec you can deal 15 strikes with 59 damage ever 1.8 sec
885 total damage over 27 sec

slow weapon: 2.6*(0.022*500 + 0.044*500) = 2.6(11 + 22) = 2.6*33 = 85.8
for 26 sec you can deal 10 strikes with 85.8 damage ever 2.6 sec
858 total damage over 26 sec

Formula for Judgement of Righteousness
1 + 0.2*500 + 0.32*500 = 1 + 100 + 160 = 261

P.S. Even for high AP and SPH this seal deal little damage =(

Comentario de firebolt145

Just got my first pally, how do I 'unleash' said power? I have tried right clicking the buff, it dispels it but doesn't seem to do any damage.

Comentario de SvZurich

Cast the seal to have it up. Now each swing you do will add that damage to it (up to roughly 7 procs per minute on this seal). When ready to unleash it, cast one of your 3 Judgements.

Back in the day, judging would drop the seal, and seals only lasted a few minutes. Now you just trigger the seal's effect and it stays up. Much better.

Once you get Seal of Vengeance (if Prot) or Seal of Martyr (if Ret), you will likely never use this seal ever again.

Comentario de bigmike

Just started a paladin alt today and this skill is learnable from your trainer even though you know it already.

Comentario de 318568

A holy pally that's not dual speced can use this before they get seal of vengeance.

Comentario de 216537

can this ability not crit at all? The seal I mean. Not the judgement. Reason I ask is was auto attacking a heroic targeting dummy and went to get food. Came back a little while later and had over 300 swings and not 1 seal crit.

Is this just horrible luck or can this just not crit?

Comentario de 414183

In case you're a noobadin, like me, you should understand that 'releasing the energy' as described in the spell text is done by using a judgement...which you don't have until level 4, so hang in there.

edit: correct level, thanks.

Comentario de 154349

maybe ret paladins won't be worthless for pvp and pve in 3.2

No... just no...

Retribution will no be "useless" in 3.2 in either pve or pvp.

The changes to Seal of Vengeance/Corruption (which I noticed you did not mention) should be an overall buff to Ret dps, and the exorcism change will just make you have to pay a little more attention (as opposed to LOL THIS NO CD NO MORE I USE THIS NOW).

PvP-wise, Retribution has it easy. There are a lot of hybrid class+spec combos (elemental shaman, enhancement shaman, balance druid, fury warrior) that are at much more of a disadvantage than retadins are. Furthermore, have you read the exorcism changes? Usable against players again, yes please.

Basically, this boils down to looking at the new Seal of Corruption/Vengeance and saying "Hey wait, that's just Seal of Blood/Matyr but with a stacking dot!" and realising this isn't the end of the world.

If you really think it is, go back on your DK now that Ret isn't FOTM.

Comentario de Ryuji2

There's been alot of discussion lately about which is currently the best Ret seal to use in PvP. Some say Vengeance/Corruption if you have a healer or are fighting against a team that can't dispell and some say Command for those that can dispell. But lately I've been hearing and even tested SoR out and the judgement damage is somewhat like SoB/tM used to be back in the beginning of Wrath, with judgements critting for quite alot of damage.

Comentario de 244981

Theorycraft really isn't my thing so I could be way off here, but would this https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=33504 actually have a use now or are https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45510 and https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=42853 still the best available Librams at the moment. Not counting newer stuff of course.

Edit: If you are going to downrank me for this suggestion back it up with some facts because from my own testing of the SoR libram vs the Divine Storm libram the SoR libram is without any doubt giving me higher DPS.

Comentario de 148552

i have been wondering if there is any difference between "All melee attacks deal" from SoCom and "granting each melee attack " from SoR, do these spells procs from same abilitys or not? Like, do they both proc only from normal white attacks or do they also proc from CS and so on? I'm just a bit confused :D

Comentario de 158834

Crusader strike will proc the Seal of Vengeance/Corruption DoT stack, but Divine Storm will not.

To combine what's been said:

Auto Attacks: Proc SoC, SoR, and SoV (both the DoT and the extra damage effect)

Crusader Strike: Procs SoC, SoR, and SoV (both the DoT and the extra damage effect)

Divine Storm: Procs SoC, SoR, and SoV (the extra damage effect, but not the DoT)

Comentario de 549921

This seal currently has the highest Judgement damage, even surpassing 5 stacked Seal of Corruption/Vengeance, because this is also the only seal that triggers seal damage on Judgement, which also makes this the preferred PvP seal for most Retribution Paladins, for added burst and pressure.

Also it's worth noting that although this seal cannot crit (Judgement can crit, of course), the seal damage is unavoidable, meaning once the attack hits, seal will be triggered no matter what. The seal damage of SoR, unlike others (SoC, SoV) cannot be dodged/parried/blocked and cannot miss. Can still be absorbed though.

Comentario de Albo125

For those that are not very good at reading those wacky formulas, i have made some testing:

Unbuffed my damage from judging would be 18 Holy damage.
Buffing myself with Blessing of Might gave me 22 Holy damage.

Therefore, at level 9 at least, 5 AP = 1 DMG

(Dont know if this formula changes at higher levels, will test again later)

*Edit* Yes, i tested it again at level 14, 5 Attack Power translates into 1 more damage to the enemy when re leas ing this Seal.

Comentario de Thottbot

not sure what that amount of damage is, anyways its around 2-5 nothing great

Comentario de Thottbot

The slower the weapon, the more damage. Drakefist hammer, being nice and slow, gives big crits. Slow weapon with +spell dmg/healing is perfect weapon for this seal. Bleeding Hollow hammer, Gavel of unearthed secrets...etc. I see 1500-1800 Judgments from Drakefist. Just imagine the possibilities.

Comentario de Thottbot

lol on the second screenshot

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Colma al paladín de espíritu sagrado durante 30 min, otorgando en cada ataque cuerpo a cuerpo [Mainhand weapon base speed * (0.022 * Attack power + 0.044 * Spell power)] p. de daño Sagrado extra. Un paladín solo puede tener un sello activo a la vez.

Desatar la energía de este sello infligirá (1 + 0.2 * Attack power + 0.32 * Spell power) p. de daño Sagrado a un enemigo.

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Valor: 20188
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
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