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Kommentar von Nordigo

This is one of the new talents coming up in 3.1. -patch. I'm no theorycrafter, so I'm just going to say what it says on the tin; This talent gives your renew an instant heal property, (think of it as the spell heal glued on top of it) and also adds to amount healed per tick. I'm no good at maths so I can't say how much, but I'm sure someone will show up here with the numbers. :)

Kommentar von 319936

Healing version of shadow's Improved Devouring Plague.

It make Renew can crit (does that mean the 1st point is more important than 2nd and 3rd?). So you can have Surge of Light and Holy Concentration by cast Renew. Look like making Renew little like Regrowth. But with Glyph of Renew, Renew will only have 4 ticks (25% per tick off course), so the direct heal part is lower than each tick of the healing over time part. It's not so bad but it's a talent that only increase one spell and need 3 points. Compare to its position, it's not so good.

Kommentar von 319936

I face the problem between the choice of Divine Providence Rank 2 plus Empowered Renew or use all 5 points on Divine Providence. Can some one help me that?

Kommentar von Artea

I look forward to this. Holy priests need an instant heal.
The initial heal does not heal for too much, but what else is there that is always instant (Surge of Light might not be there when you need it).
Circle of healing is stronger but expensive and on a 6 second cooldown.
The closest thing to an instant "heal" is Power Word: Shield on a 4 second cooldown.

I raid with about 2500 Spellpower raidbuffed and this talent I would roughly give me (188% + 15%) 203% of my spellpower as bonus healing to renew so that would be (2500 x 2.03 +1400) x 0.15 = ~971 (1456 crit) Instant Heal. Not a huge amount considering the amount of spellpower. But it is cheap and fast.

It will be pretty useful for healing through debuffs that you can't dispell. Poisons for instance, your renew can top up the damage that was already taken from any previous ticks, and then continue to top them up for the duration. Similar to how Glyph of Dispel Magic works to top up those that have taken damage from a dispellable debuff.

Also an added bonus to this talent is you will be able to crit! This means another of holy priest bread-and-butter abilities will have an opportunity to crit. Surge of light, and clearcasting will proc.

Kommentar von amgyn

do renew ticks crit? or just the initial heal?

Kommentar von 318094

I've enjoyed this talent ever since I got my one point in it (that's all I can spare right now and I just wanted the privilege of having a crittable Renew). As much time as I spend glancing over people's bars with a simple renew (even if their hp is full sometimes), this being an insta-heal which can proc both Surge of Light and Holy Concentration is great. I'm actually considering whether or not I might invest one or two points out of Serendipity which is convenient but doesn't have many opportunities (at least so far for me) to take advantage of that convenience and place them into rank two and/or 3 of Emp. Renew. I'm going to be bold and say that Renew will probably be the most common Holy Conc. proccing spell you'll use in most light situations. Flash, Greater and Binding don't start playing a role as much until crap starts or is about to start hitting the fan.

But here's a question: does the insta-heal part of Emp. act as an additional 5/10/15% of what your hot aspect already gives or is it taking a small portion of the total hot and putting it up front for the insta-heal? I'm certain it's the former, and I'm really hoping it is.

Kommentar von 275627

So does the inital heal equal 15% of the total amount healed, or 15% of 1 tick? Because 15% of 1 tick isn't that much.

Kommentar von 114933

This work well with glyph of renew.

If your renew heal 5000 hp total (5 ticks), the spell 'll insta heal by 750

With glyph:

Your renew heal 6250. ( 4 ticks), the spell 'll insta heal by 937

THis is correct? Anyway it's just broken theorycraft.

Kommentar von RogueLeader

Since most Holy priests seem to be only dropping one point in this for the initial crit chance, I'm going to go ahead and say this is still a solid choice to max out. A lot of constant and consistant raid damage (Mimiron) or even just tank damage (Vezax) will get a lot more out of points 2 and 3, and there are many similar raid and heroic bosses (Heroic Black Knight) where this duly amazing. Remember, it adds to each tick not just the added initial heal.

Kommentar von 319936

I still have a question. If I have to choose between Mental Agility Rank 3 and Empowered Renew Rank 3, like this talent to this one, which would be better? Can some one help me and explain the reason?

In other word, for a holy priest,

1st, 10% mana save for Circle of Healing, Renew, Prayer of Mending, Power Word: Shield(have to admit that it's a good spell even for deep holy priest), Guardian Spirit(small,but better than nothing), Abolish Disease, Dispel Magic, Holy Nova(ok, we seldom use it) and priest's buffs(only usefull when someone back to life during the fight).

+ 5% bonus for Power Word: Shield.

2nd, 15%+15% bonus for Renew and bigger chance to Holy Concentration and Surge of Light.

+ 5% mana save for Divine Hymn(long cd and huge mana cost, rather use Inner Focus every time to cast it) and Greater Heal(not a frequently used spell even for holy priest).

Which one would be better?

Kommentar von 124415

Empowered Renew.
For Holy, go with something like this spec.

Mental Agility is nice but a 10% saving isn't really a must, you have alot of mana regen tools now and the fights shouldn't be last really long enough to make you run out of mana (and CDs).

Also, learn to LOVE Serendipity. It's one of your biggest AoE helper.
Don't glyph for Flash Heal, most if not all your Flash Heals should come from Surge of Light proccs.

This if you're a Renew spammer, some priests stay out of it and only get 1 point for the chance of proccing SoL.

And try to get 3/3 Improved Healing if you see yourself casting too much Greater Heals, with Serendipity it's faster than 5/5 Divine Fury (and more helpful for raiding purposes as well).

Kommentar von Meggie

The empowered effect does not downrank then used on lower level characters. One can heal a level 1 player for a couple of thousands every GCD.

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