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Kommentar von 53267

Amazing skill, this will make kiting a warrior a lot more dangerous, it's kinda the Warrior's Deadly Throw.

Kommentar von 164598

I just got this. Exactly what it says on the box, it's your attack power + 1 as damage. Bit of an odd choice, but either way it's going to hurt.

It'll certainly have its uses in PVP, but its obvious use is in pulling while tanking. No more stocking ammo for warriors anymore!

Kommentar von Anigav0639

I've got a few questions that I'm hoping someone could shed some light on.

1. Is this ability tied to any of your weapon skills? For example, if you have a main hand sword, would it count as sword weapon skill, thrown weapon skill, or neither?

2. If you're chucking your weapon at a mob/player, does it leave you disarmed until the mob runs up to you and you pull your sword back out of its face?

and most importantly...

3. Does the throwing animation show your sweet glowing epic sword flying through the air, or does it just look like the generic throwing dagger?

As far as question 2, I'm guessing it just sort of magically returns to your hand after you throw it (what if the mob/player runs away and you never see your sword again), but I was curious if there were any unique mechanics regarding that.

edit: bad grammar

Kommentar von makron

It's cheap and it is ranged. Beatuiful thing.
Just so you don't forget, warriors are now the last class with deadzone, this will be really nice to damage classes like mages who tend to stay in there.
Cast time of 0.5s means just you have to stop to do it, it is fast enought :)
EDIT: in next patch nerfed to 1min cooldown, making it more than pulling tool than giving an usable ranged attack :-/

Kommentar von 204641

Even though it has a 1 min CD, still nice to pop this if a mage tries to frost nova you o:

Kommentar von 206256

Pulling casters:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=12958

<3

Kommentar von 45840

From playing around with this on Beta it will be quite a powerful tool, it's instant cast and can be used in melee range all the way out to 30 yards. This very much ups a warriors burst potential and definitely will be great when combined with Gag Order.

To answer an earlier question or two, this does not disarm you. I am unsure if this is tied to weapon skills, I never gained weapon skills from using it but if I had to guess I would say that it would as it requires a melee weapon.

Kommentar von 219222

Combine it with shooting your gun when appropriate for that extra smidge of aggro. Every little point counts at the initiation of combat.

Kommentar von Mayhew

This can be combined with shooting and charging to front-load threat on a target. Shoot the mob, Heroic Throw at it, then charge it to gain rage for your next ability.

You can also put threat on three targets right away: Shoot target A (melee), Heroic Throw at target B (caster), and charge target C (caster or melee). The silence will make the caster run to wherever you charge, so that you can more easily get them in position for a Shockwave.

This seems like it will be wonderful for letting DPS lay into a mob relatively early on in a fight.

Kommentar von Vaerondis

Anyone else get the scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail in their head from this skill? Y'know, the bit where the black knight throws the sword between the eyes?

I can't wait!

Kommentar von 97510

i can't wait for deep fury warriors throwing around their 2handed weapons, it's gonna be epic!

Kommentar von 246776

I assume that fury warriors will have about 4k ap with battle shout on lvl 80, so this ability will hit for 2000-2100 and crit for 4k

Kommentar von 145487

Yes, this ability will be useful for providing initial threat on a boss. That's nice, and will give a second or two more dps on a boss encounter.

However, this ability is a huge boon to Protection Warriors for PvP. With the many changes to the Protection tree, especially the Warbringer talent, as well as the addition of this ability's buff from Gag Order, Protection Warriors are definitely a force to be reckoned with for arenas.

Kommentar von Nemasis

Interesting choice of an icon that Blizzard gave it.

It happens to be the same icon as https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28767 which warriors were using in higher tier raid instances in BC as a method of pulling fast moving patrols. Coincidence?

Kommentar von 73011

How did Heroic Throw get the 12 in (12 + AP*0.50)
Blizzard Employees in conversation:

Employee 1: "Ya heroic throw does pretty decent damage, but it should be a little bit stronger, it's only doing AP*0.50. That's not nearly enough. Last night this *@&%in blinky mage got away from me with 13 hp, 13! I would have had him if Heroic throw did the damage it was suppose to do!"
Employee 2: "You know what, you're right man. I'm gonna talk to Frank, i'll see what he can do about it."

The next day...

Employee 1: "So any news from Frank?"
Employee 2: "Yes, i told him about your dilemma and he decided to help you out."
Employee 1: "Awesome! What's the change?"
Employee 2: "Remember how Heroic Throw was doing (AP*0.50)? Well, now it does (AP*0.50 + 12)!"
Employee 1: "....Frank's a mage isn't he?"
Frank: "Yeeeeeep. You're welcome."

Kommentar von Anarchy

Heroic throw can give weapon skill up, depending on your main hand weapon.

Kommentar von darkdog

A prot warrior can use this as a "improved deadly throw" for pvp that mage kiting slilence him for 6 seconds.

Kommentar von Skullraze

Can proc Enrage, Deep Wounds+Trauma, and Sudden Death but does not generate rage points.

Kommentar von 233437

IMO, this skill seems a little underpowered (damage-wise, althought it's probably not meant to be a main DPS skill anyways). It doesn't do much damage to begin with, and it has a 60 second CD. I mean, of course it's better than nothing and its great as a way to pull, but come on... Fan of Knives (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=51723) has (well, is going to) no cooldown at all, and deals a lot of damage to everything around you. This only hits 1 target for "eh" damage...

Just me ranting here about DPS warriors :P

Kommentar von 138937

The 12 dmg idea really is kinda odd ball. If they gave this at like lvl 10 or 20 and let the AP scale with level and gear it would prolly make more sense.

Kommentar von Aedalas

Heroic Throw resets the swing timer, time accordingly.

Kommentar von 178572

You would think with how lacking the abilities we got 70-80 compared to nearly every other class who almost all got great new abilities, they would have at least made this do weapon damage seeing as how we are throwing the weapon at them. I'm sorry, but throwing my gigantic axe at someone is probably going to hurt them more than what this does, if anything it would hurt more than a regular swing too.

Kommentar von 182762

This is a great move for pulling as a Protection Warrior. Not only does it provide you with an ammo free pull (i.e. never running out of ammo half-way through a raid), but if you improve it with https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=12958, you can pull casters with ease. In my opinion, one of the best things Blizzard has done for Protection Warriors.

~~Lloroy - Gorgonnash US

edit: Fixed the link

Kommentar von 89733

I guess all those warriors that used https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28767 for pulling finally got their wish, I wonder if blizzard used the same icon as an 'homage' to our old friend.

Kommentar von Flaks

Probably posted elsewhere too but any ability that does damage modified from something + a set amount of damage uses the static damage increase as the threat modifier.

Kommentar von 136247

I must ask, since it says weapon and not weapons, does this throw both of your weapons when you use it? Titan's Grip with two Betrayer of Humanity would look pretty sick :P

Kommentar von 226081

Can it crit?

Kommentar von 110266

Yes, it can crit.

Kommentar von 333276

Titan's Grip -- Only throws main hand weapon.

Also, if you are in a lower area and skilling up a weapon, it counts toward the skill up. I was leveling staff just for the heck of it, threw it, and gained a skill up.

Kommentar von DarkFelixRO

I'm not so good with macro's but if anyone could tell me a macro to link this to a yell "Hey, <targetname>, think fast!", they'd have my eternal gratitude.

Kommentar von 268079

.....What's so heroic about it?

Kommentar von Lukrid

This attack sees its true glory when you swap to dark herring as your main hand weapon before using it. Now, you're chucking a fish at your opponent. Doesn't get much more offensive than that, and since you can swap weapons in combat, you can start combat with that fish to the face, and then swap to your regular weapon.

Kommentar von 42047

Heroic Throw seems to work with Sweeping Strikes, but only when you are in melee-range.

EDIT: It seems if you have a mob in melee-range, activate Sweeping Strikes and Heroic Throw another mob at range the mob in melee-range will take damage from sweeping strikes.

Now to find a use for it!

Kommentar von Xbander

This is only effective for Warrior tanks to pull/regain aggro from a distance. But considering Taunt, Warbringer, and Intercept, is this really that useful?

Certainly not for DPS Warriors, with the exception of killing a fleeing enemy who is down to nothing on health. But for PVP? Worthless. Too much of a cooldown, or not enough damage. I've thrown my Titansteel Destroyer at mounted players, only to see them gallop away, barely scratched (and I'm dismounted in the process). The only people it kills are clothies...when they're almost dead...and it crits.

Paladins' Hammer of Wrath owns this all day long.

Kommentar von Aenonar

I kinda like to pull, especially bosses with: (imp)Bloodrage - (Battle Shout sometimes for even more dmg/threat) - (imp)Heroic Throw - Warbringer Charge - Shield Block(while charging) - Shield Slam

Creates heavy starting aggro as you generally reach the boss before the throw lands, and then instantly slam with double block value. The dps can start right away with no problem at all. Plus it looks damn awesome to pull off that combo flawlessly :>

Kommentar von 168437

Using this + Argent Skeleton Smasher looks like you're throwing a german hand grenade!

Kommentar von 293501

This ability, according to the Wowhead tooltip, does the same amount of damage as https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=64382, but obviously do vastly different things. Interesting to know, especially if you're in battle stance and trying to finish of a pesky clothy in pvp.

Kommentar von 230590

too many silly things to do with this attack

don't like someone? throw a fish at them
think paladins are overpowered? nerf them
maybe trying to help clean up
throw your fists up in anger!

and whats even better, you can race and beat your thrown object to the target with a charge lol

Kommentar von Kyzen

It's ridiculous how many times this has helped me with getting that final blow in pvp from fleeing enemies. Especially rogues and feral druids who pop their sprint ability hoping to get away and bandage / heal up. ;D

Kommentar von Restobeef

WoTLK: Warriors can now disarm themselves

Kommentar von Dalnathris

In addition to all of the helpful information posted here, Warriors, this ability is your friend when it comes to those pesky hunters, as it ignores Deterrence. I'm not sure if this is a glitch, as the tooltip for Heroic Throw does not specify what it bypasses, but there you have it.

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Wirft Eure Waffe nach dem Feind, verursacht (12 + Attack power * .50) Schaden (basierend auf Angriffskraft). Erzeugt ein hohes Maß an Bedrohung.

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School Damage (Physisch)
Wert: 12 (AP mod:0.5)
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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Waffe nicht wegstecken
Kann nicht ausgewichen, pariert oder geblockt werden
Initiiere Kampf (aktiviert Auto-Attack)
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