I don't know if this is the same for the Arcane Tomes, but this cannot be a coincidence as it has happened to be at least a half dozen times in game. While farming for Aldor rep (usually at Death's Door), I will kill a mob that drops a Fel Armament. If I kill another mob RIGHT AWAY, it too will drop a Fel Armament. It seems that the drops of these items are on a timer and perhaps for a 10 second window, all mobs that can drop one of these will. This is purely speculation but this has happened to me quite a few times. I suppose if this were true theoretically you could find out the time between "windows" to make farming rep easier. Just curious if others have noticed this trend.

評論來自 halo131

Yeah definitely Legion Hold in Shadowmoon Valley if you are looking to get some of these. I've been here for about an hour and a half grinding Netherweave cloth and I've had 6 of these drop plus 37 Mark of Sargeras.

評論來自 33819

increases rep by 350

評論來自 Malto

Since Tuesday April 10th, those and Arcane Tomes seem to have lowered drop rates. Their % drop chances decreased on this site and I've heard many stories of guildies who were farming these intensively and then suddenly (Starting April 10th after the patch) it never dropped.

I myself experienced this lowered drop rate. I farmed 5 hours with my bro (Warlock-Priest: VERY efficient) and I'd say we killed about 300 mobs which drop Fel Armaments and we got 2 to drop. Before the patch I remember we got 6 in 2 hours.

I enslaved the elite in Legion Hold and so we were able to kill about 4 mobs a minute.

Cannot be just me. I heard too many comments about it.

評論來自 Purebeef

I farm Fel Armaments in Deaths Door in Blades Edge Mountains. Also, I am a prot warrior and its slow for me - faster and higher DPS groups would wipe the floor with this place from end to end.

I got 6 here yesterday in a few hours - that might have been luck.

評論來自 48268

OK LISTEN UP the best place to farm these i would say is in forge bases oblivion/gehennas in northwestern netherstorm as well over there there is also a good quest chain and tons of green drops so go there at 70 and youll be rich in under a day GL :P

評論來自 moptop

It seems Deaths Door in Blades Edge has been nerfed in 2.1.2? Usually after an hour of farming I end up with 30 marks and 3-4 fel arms. So far I'm up to 2 hours with a total of 9 marks and 0 fel arms.

Anybody else experiencing this?

評論來自 73949

I have been grinding both SMV and SL for these items with no luck at all. Hours of time and no drops. I did get lots of netherweave and marks for my labors as well as ez kills and some green stuff to disenchant. Stay off the road in SMV! A roving mob will kick your GulmusMaximus if they see you farming the area.

評論來自 Pixiez

Ok ok ... but where do we turn in the Fel Armament?

評論來自 captbud420

The drop rate is a joke, just like mote of earth, quicker to do quests make money and buy them.

評論來自 78251

You can always expect to see a handful of these to drop in a Shadow Labs run, along with the Marks of Sargeras. Of course the downside of that is you'll be rolling against other people for it. You're better off farming for them yourself in SMV.

評論來自 closed

i found that a good place to farm for these is Death's Door in Blade's Edge

評論來自 81639

Practically impossible to get these to drop. The droprate sucks bigtime, even from the Shadow Council Warlocks & everything around them at Legion Hold. Ive been there for 6 hours straight, yet not a single drop. I reccommend you all to buy this stuff from ah from the uberfarming ppl that actually sits 24/7 farming these to make a profit... Profit... Pfft

評論來自 56004

I got four fel armaments by grinding the wrathbringers in Forge Base: Gehenna located in Netherstorm in 20 mins. I kid you not.

評論來自 81639

And how come noone has made some math? =)

To get from neutral to exalted with Aldor it requires 42.000 reputationpoints as with any faction. This is equal to 120 Fel Armaments :) Good luck hunting!

評論來自 85923

The human racial increases rep gain to increase by 10%, which means:

Fel Armament - 385 rep per turn in - Neutral to Exalted = 110 Fel Armaments
Mark of Kil'jaeden/Sargeras - 275 rep per turn in - Neutral to Exalted = 1528 Marks

評論來自 Jeremypwnz

i was in a Slabs group the other day and 7 and of these dropped within about 15 minutes!! I dont know if it was luck or w/e. im just lucky i was the only aldor!!!

評論來自 Freedomstone

Each one of these babies give 79 rep with sha'tar even though you cant see it in the combat log You get rep..

評論來自 113820

While grinding for Mark of Kil'jaeden in Terrokar Forest 5 of these dropped.
(Grinded 229 marks. Enough to get honored)
Dropped off Cabal mobs.
Pretty nice to get these aswell as the marks. Even though the droprate is only 0.9% (Must be wrong) I got 5. So the droprate is HIGHER than 0.9%.

評論來自 125484

I agree with the previous poster these are where the cabel guys are and the place is great, i was grinding the marks i got 110 and 4 of the fel armamants, i also got over 10 greens aload netherweave over 200 and about 100 runecloth, my bags were stuffed, i was only picking up the marks and silver by the end i was probaby there for maybe 2 hours, the drop rate on the marks was very impressive as well. I am level 70 and I only recently deceided to go Aldor, however i have semi-ground deaths door and shadowmoon valley, without much success..

To be honest even though i can use the marks any more i would still grind the arments here until i find a better place and this time i will empty all my bags, and sell the marks..

評論來自 Febreze

we got 8 in one Shadowlabs run today. huge drop rate in there.

評論來自 139137

If you were to trade a Fel Armament for some Sargeras how much Sargeras would you ask for?

評論來自 140778

That is not an even trade. if it were to be even as far as rep. It would be about 14 marks of Sargeras per Armament, however that doesn't take into account the Holy Dust part of the equation.

Short Version. . .not worth trading Marks for Armaments

I have had success farming these at Forge Base: Oblivion and Ghenna in Netherstorm. The mobs aren't too terribly bad as far as spawn rate and number of mobs.

評論來自 105782

Anyone working for the burning legion can drop theese. That includes orcs that are affiliated with the legion, such as the Kil'Sorrow clan, I thought that was pretty self evident.

評論來自 64110

Either my luck has run out but i'm getting tons of marks instead from Death's Door, Netherstorm, SMV. It can take upto an hour (or longer) before i see an armament, not that i'm complaining just saying ;). On the other hand, i can get two scryer books within an hour. Ah well.

Regardless the best spot i've had was in Netherstorm the forge camps, fast respawn rate and the other thing there's usually nobody there (depends on realm). You'll get 70+ marks and at least 5 armaments (if you're lucky) with one ammo pouch/quiver.

評論來自 Atahan

what is the scryers drop ??

評論來自 114817

I farm Marks of Sargeras at the Arklon Ruins and have definitely received Fel Armaments from Artifact Seekers.

評論來自 Kurasu

I have noticed that with the opening of QD, Arcane Tomes and Sunfury Signets have gone *WAY* down in price while Fel Armament has gone up in value. If you are farming for money, these are definitely the way to go nowadays. Trade channel used to be about 50-50 with people looking for Fel Armament and Arcane Tomes on my server, but now it's nearly 90-10 when I've watched. Also, people are offering 2-for-1 or even 3-for-1 in some cases.

Simple matter of supple and demand here, but unless they open a new area that drops the Marks or Armaments, even Scryers will probably do well both rep-wise and enchant-wise with farming these and offering them to trade for books.

評論來自 Mousa

Is there a way to exchange that, and other Aldor items for Scryer's???

評論來自 120730

Might be obvious, but you can carry more than 250, but they stack in 250's.

評論來自 159774

Personally I found the best place to farm these at is Legion Hold (click for map) in Shadowmoon Valley alongside farming for Marks of Sargeras. A decently geared level seventy should be able to kill several demons without the need for a break in this area.

評論來自 111622

There's gotta be a way to Farm Aldor rep besides spending over 6 million gold on these things, they're 3 times the price of Arcane Tomes (Scryer Equivalent).

評論來自 152977

Mine dropped off in the shadow tomb while i was on the quest http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10881

評論來自 arkov

Hey Blizzard thanks for making these 3x more valuable than 's. Makes it a real pain for us Aldor.

Why couldn't they have just made the QD dailies so you kill an equal amount of demons and blood elves?

評論來自 152717

These seem to have a good drop rate in Shadow Labryrinth. Whenever I run it (regular, not sure about heroic) I see as many as 7 or 8 drop in a single run.

評論來自 269816

These things, along with the Fel Armaments have hit 25g/30g bid/buyout on my server as a standard.

Don't know why there's a sudden price increase, maybe it's a number of things: gold inflation, people already exalted want shoulder enchants, DKs, and achievement?

評論來自 296905

If you don't wanna use it for rep it mostly sells for 7 - 8G ea on AH :)

評論來自 305493

I think the best place to farm FEL ARMAMENTS is in the netherstorm at ARKLON RUINS. Th ratio was 12 beast----8 fel armaments.

評論來自 223475

Arcane Tomes and Fel Armaments are becoming very expensive to buy from AH, there is high demand now, main reason is when you search what enchant can i do to a shoulder item people understand that it is much easier to enchant a shoulder item with the older enchants cause

a) older enchants are cheaper
b) older enchants are only a bit inferior to new ones
c) you need time to get rep with The Sons of Hodir and money plus you might don't know where to even start getting rep with them,
however you probably are already honored at least with Aldor or Scryers so you can go enchant your shoulder item immediately!

compare enchants:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28903
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28881
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44129

評論來自 102246

Do you have to be on the quest for these items to drop?

評論來自 Goddessa39

After having the quest for a week, I FINALLY got one from a Cabal Abjurist at the insides of the Shadow Tomb, a little stone temple looking thing on the NW of the Bones Wastes...

評論來自 Htoo

Guys. Try Shadow Ladybrinth on Normal difficulty. (if you have the key.) I've seen a BIG Increase of Fel Armaments there than in some places like Legion Hold (I barely get ANY there.) I've also seen a pretty good amount of Netherweave Cloth there.

評論來自 Shubi

Here is list of items you need to rise your REP with the Scryers or Aldor in Shattrath City :

For < The Scryers >

Firewing Signet ( 250 rep - per 10 ) price about 4g
Sunfury Signet ( 250 rep - per 10 ) price about 0,64g
Arcane Tome ( 350 rep - per 1 ) price about 40g

<<< in REP recieve: 14 Signets = 1 Tome >>>

For < The Aldor >

Mark of Kil'jaeden ( 250 rep - per 10 ) price about 2,64g
Mark of Sargeras ( 250 rep - per 10 ) price about 0,1g
Fel Armament ( 350 rep - per 1 ) price about 7g

<<< in REP recieve: 14 Marks = 1 Fel Armament >>>

------------------------------------> Total number required: <------------------------------------
(240 of any Signets or Marks are required to go from friendly to honored.)
(1,320 Sunfury signets or 1,320 Mark of Sargeras to go from honored to exalted)
(94 Arcane Tomes or 94 Fel Armament to go from honored to exalted)

評論來自 livelongfrog

I got mine to from the mob at 41:58 in Terokkar Forest.

評論來自 Drest

I don't seem to be able to link these in-game at all. I tried shift-clicking, and also using Wowhead's "Link" button to copy/paste the link into game chat. It just prints the item as plain text. Arcane Tomes, and all the Scryer and Aldor marks link just fine, but these do not.

Is it just me? Why's it only that one item?

Many people just ignore plain white text in trade chat.

評論來自 Darkicon

An easy way to farm these and Marks of Sargeras is to go into the Shadow Labyrinth on normal mode and aggro every mob in the first room and just AoE them all. As a hunter, I'm partial to using a pet to gather them all up, MD'ing to my pet and using Multi-Shot with Serpent Spread. Usually only takes 2 shots to kill them (Plus 1 tick of Serpent Sting).

It takes me about 3 minutes per run (A lot of that time is from looting). I'm averaging 1-2 Fel Armaments, about 17 Marks of Sargeras, 1½ stacks of Netherweave Cloth, 10g in loot, about 7g in vendor trash and probably like 500 Lower City rep (I didn't count that) per run.

Since there is a 5-instances per hour max, you might wanna make your way up to Blackheart's room as well. In there you don't need to run around aggroing every, just aggro Blackheart but watch out because he does Mind Control and the Malicious Instructors have a lot more health than the trash. If you are a hunter and doing Blackheart's room, do not think by having your pet aggro Blackheart, all the trash will go to your pet, they seem to almost always go to you. Simple solution: Feign Death until they're on your pet, pop MD and Multi-Shot them to your pet.

評論來自 Vlad

You can use this script (like a macro, just paste it in the chat) to know how many items you need to turn in to Exalted (only counting the 魔化武器):
/run local k=IsSpellKnown local s,b,r=select(6,GetFactionInfoByID(932)),1+(k(20599)and .1 or 0)+(k(78635)and .1 or k(78634)and .05 or 0)r=42000-s r=r<0 and 0 or r print(format("You need %.1f %s to Exalted.",r/(350*b),select(2,GetItemInfo(29740))))

評論來自 764081

"Shadowmoon Valley, at Legion Hold"

Confirmed. Killed about 12 of the mob before it dropped.

評論來自 Levnik

Addon called "Get to the Point" on curse. It hasn't been updated in a couple of years, but it is still functioning.

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/get-point.aspx

I turned in 150 fel armaments in Zang, in about 3 minutes.

評論來自 474983

As an 85 Hunter with 312 (Uldum) level gear, i did full clear 2x and received 7 fel armaments and close to 100 Mark of Sargera's each run, confirm, more time looting that killing

評論來自 849346

I did two full clear w/ my 85 lock in Shadow Labyrinth and got 112 Marks of Sageras and 9 Fel Armaments. The 2 runs took me only like 10 minutes. I wish I came here before and see how easy it was instead of wasting money on AH.

評論來自 Biffsterr

Shadowmoon Valley, Legion Hold, it's the Shadow Council Warlocks you want. I killed a couple dozen mobs outside of the hold and Fel Armament didn't drop. I started killing the warlocks and got three in about ten minutes. The warlocks respawn very fast and a few times I even got a double spawn which would have been really annoying had I been around level 70 instead of a level 85 tankadin with 140k health.

評論來自 zaheer12a

I decided to farm Shadow Labyrinth after reading some of the comments and here are my results. I farmed all the trash on HEROIC mode before the first boss, except ONE group of mobs around a pillar. I did this to avoid activating the boss. Then I proceeded to the room with the second boss and cleared all the trash there. I looted all the mobs and went back outside, used my Traveler's Tundra Mammoth to sell all the greens, greys and other vendor items (I made bandages out of Netherweave cloth and vendored these as well). I could do this five times in just over an hour. The net gain was:

428 Gold
15 魔化武器
186 薩格拉斯印記

I was already exalted with Lower City so I don't know how much rep this would have gotten.

PS. I did this as a Demonology Warlock

評論來自 snuggzies

Guild 10% Rep Bonus + 10% Hallow's End Buff gives you about 420 rep per turn in (non-human class). Compared to 350 rep which you normally get that's a huge difference on farming when you want to go from Neutral/Friendly to Exalted. Thus making Hallow's End holiday the perfect time to grind these for Rep (and Marks too).

評論來自 423937

So, just a noob question. I mean no idiocy, but can these be sold on the auction house?

評論來自 Preye

With patch 5.0.4 as a fresh 85 ret paladin i was able to clear the place and loot it in 11 min on average. I looted 5 armaments and 50 marks on the average run. Before the patch I was getting 2 armaments and 50 marks per run, so this is definitely the place to go.

評論來自 jstrahan

Using an 85 Human mage, I could only get these in SL. Even when I completely cleared out the other three areas, absolutely no Fel Armaments (and this includes Sethekk Halls. :) )

評論來自 Turpentine

Since there were only incomplete reports on drops and how long it would take to get from Neutral to Exalted, I decided to commit to the Aldor and get the few recipes for Leatherworking that are available. I did not want to quest for this and the only quests that I had to complete were the one started by the Haggard War Veteran and the escort through Shattrath City, following the translucent Elemental. Then it was straight turn-ins for 薩格拉斯印記 and 魔化武器.

As a level 90 Hunter (ilvl 517 LFR geared) I first completed Shadow Labyrinth on Heroic mode.

This produced the following:
54 薩格拉斯印記/6 魔化武器

Next, I completed Normal mode Shadow Labyrinth with the below results:
60 薩格拉斯印記/2 魔化武器

I am always interested in better statistics/drop rate listing than just "Woot, it dropped for me the first time!", so I decided to to a full max dungeon per hour experiment and completed 5 x Normal mode Shadow Labyrinth later in the day. The results were as follows:

Dungeon 1: 54 薩格拉斯印記 & 8 魔化武器
Dungeon 2: 59 薩格拉斯印記 & 5 魔化武器
Dungeon 3: 63 薩格拉斯印記 & 3 魔化武器
Dungeon 4: 63 薩格拉斯印記 & 7 魔化武器
Dungeon 5: 61 薩格拉斯印記 & 3 魔化武器

Shadow Labyrinth is sadly not an instance that provides a quick exit after you kill the last boss, so you will have to run all the way back. These 5 instances took me exactly 48.5 minutes, with the majority of the time running with Aspect of the Cheetah. I spent more time looting than killing.

The grand total for the 5 instance farm was 300 薩格拉斯印記 & 26 魔化武器.

Thus, the Aldor reputation you can expect from this, if you are in a lvl 25 guild (non human character), is:

30 x 10 薩格拉斯印記 turn-ins. 275 rep x 30 = 8,250 reputation
26 x 1 魔化武器 turn-ins. 385 rep x 26 = 10,010 reputation

So, about 50 minutes of dungeon work will net you a total of 18,260 rep with Aldor (again, this is higher if you are a human character). The total reputation from Neutral to Exalted should be around 42,000. So about 10 dungeon runs of Shadow Labs ought to give you what you need to get to Exalted with the Aldor (given that you have to do a couple of quests before being able to turn these in). And if you start with 魔化武器 turn-ins, you can safely skip the entire 基爾加丹印記 turn-in portion, as these do not drop in the Shadow Lab instance.

評論來自 1145462

I ran heroic Shadow Labyrinth 9/15/13 and walked out with 6 or 7. Definitely a good place to farm.

評論來自 Nopeace

#showtooltip Fel Armament
/script SelectGossipAvailableQuest(1)
/script CompleteQuest()
/script GetQuestReward()
Right click on the NPC who you turn the 魔化武器 into and press whatever button you have this bound to. This makes turning in any rep item a breeze. I suggest binding it to the mouse wheel for nearly instant turn ins.

評論來自 1381195

My first run, i did Shadow Labs four times. Once on heroic, and three normal and obtained 11 Fel Armaments.
My second run, i did Shadow Labs 3 times once on heroic and obtained ONE Fel Armament.

It seems it is hit or miss.

評論來自 1227777

As of 6.0 Patch for WoD pre launch - very few of these are even lootable from Artifact Seekers near Area 52 above the Arklon Ruins. I killed 40, looted 3 - no Fel Arms. I am going to try shadow labs. Best bet might be to just purchase these on the AH.

評論來自 Seniade

Farming these in 8.2 for rep. The best non-dungeon area I have found is the Twilight Ridge in western Nagrand (Outlands). Clearing the area takes approximately 3 minutes on a low movement melee class. Respawn of the area was starting by the time I was looping back around. One clear netted me about:

魔化武器 x8
薩格拉斯印記 x 42
基爾加丹印記 x 38

Personally I have been clearing Heroic Shadow Labyrinth and Normal Shadow Labyrinth until I get annoyed with running through the dungeon (1-3 tbh) and then switching to Nagrand.

評論來自 geekySmurfer

Dropped of the first boss 海爾瑪大使 in 暗影迷宮 on Heroic

評論來自 Poehring

Be prepared to face the wrath of the RNG gods. As of writing this, I've been farming both Legion Hold and Shadow Tomb for 3 hours, and have not had one drop.

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