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Comment by 665258

James Cameron's character uses this.

Comment by 101632

this is probably better for PvP but Bloodbath actually comes out ahead for PvE by a bit, and by a lot if it bypasses armor for the calculation of bleed dmg

Comment by Jacobstx

FOR KHAZ MODAN!

It's been nine years.. I only hope that you turn white too.

That'd make the nostalgia complete.

Comment by Baracuda

I was going to pick Storm Bolt at first but then I saw this talent, not only will it give non-fury warriors a "Death Wish" again, but we'll all finally get the Avatar ability from WC3 :D

With any luck it'll make our character HUGE too!

Comment by 443457

1. It increases your size by 30% and doesn't stack with other size increasing effects (as expected).
2. It adds a light grey hue to your character. Naked it resembles the silverish colour of the Warcraft III ability, but with gear on it gets much darker, close to black or brown with some gear sets.
3. The transformation is preceded by a shout like animation and a small effect, similar to Recklessness.

Comment by Tyrosus

So so so SOO making my warrior a dwarf.. Then...
/cast Avatar
/cast Stoneform
/y FOR KHAZ MODAN!

Comment by 696346

It's not on the global cooldown and it has the same cooldown as , so you might as well save time and action bar room by macroing them together:

#showtooltip
/cast Avatar
/cast Skull Banner

It's probably not a good idea to use this in PVP due to the situational mobility you get from intervening to your skull banner.

Comment by Nesharil

Using this ability while sitting on a chair or a bench doesn't cause your character to stand up.

Comment by Arikara

Getting nerfed to no longer increase rage generated in patch 5.1

Ie it becomes useless to tanks...

Comment by Thorngral

So next patch this is just a flat 20% damage boost on a 3 minute cooldown? Hello Avenging Wrath.

Comment by Vythrin

In MoP beta, Storm Bolt and Avatar were on different tiers, so I was going to roll a Dwarf Warrior and spec into Avatar and Storm Bolt and never use any abilities besides those and Thunder Clap. I was so disappointed when Blizzard changed it.

Comment by Lintian

"Avatar State, yip-yip!"

Comment by Lordplatypus

BEARDS BLOOD BOOZE AN THUNDER!

sigh, for the uninformed, this is one of the better lines for the Dwarf Mountain King from WCIII.

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Comment by smackthekids

Level 90 Warrior Talents for beginners:

With the massive list of changes to Warrior in 5.4 (as well as the repeated nerfs to Avatar since MoP), a lot can factor in to which talent yields the best "overall" DPS and utility, and for players new to the Warrior class it can be confusing, such as whether you're Fury Warrior, Arms Warrior, or Protection Warrior, whether youre Single-Minded Fury (1 handers x2) or Titan's Grip (2 handers x2), whether you picked Bladestorm talent or not, whether you have and use the Cooldown Reduction Trinket(s), as well as the quantity, quality, and type of enemy (PvE vs PvP, Dungeon vs Raid, Single vs Multi targets, etc).

Avatar Unfortunately, has been nerfed down significantly since the release of MoP, and is generally only best in limited situations currently. Together with the longest cooldown of the Level 90 Talents, it mainly shines in situations where absolutely every ounce of burst counts, as it's a flat damage increase to all direct & indirect abilities, DoTs, and autoattacks for nearly a half minute, as well as a root/snare break; useful in very 'limited' Arena situations.

Here's a rough breakdown for complete newbies.
This list will ensure you're maximizing your Warrior as you continue to learn and hone your skills. Over time, as you master your Warrior, the talents will be purely up to you and your unique situation(s).

Rule of thumb for Level 90 Warrior Talents:

PvE (Dungeons/Raids):

Multi-Target: (multi adds / multi-bosses / cleave)
All 3 Specs
---
Single-Target: **(With Cooldown Reduction Trinket)
Fury Single-Minded Fury
--- -or- Storm Bolt
Fury Titan's Grip
--- Storm Bolt
Arms Warrior
--- -or- Avatar (100% Dependant on encounter's need for frequent burst vs higher burst DPS)
Protection Warrior
--- Storm Bolt -or- (Storm Bolt for instant, high threat and damage w/ Vengeance; or Bloodbath due to it not using / freeing up a vital Global Cooldown)
Single-Target: **(Without Cooldown Reduction Trinket)
Fury Single-Minded Fury
---
Fury Titan's Grip
--- Storm Bolt -or-
Arms Warrior
--- -or- Avatar (100% Dependant on encounter's need for frequent burst vs higher burst DPS)
Protection Warrior
--- Storm Bolt -or- (Storm Bolt for the high instant threat and damage with Vengeance; Bloodbath due to it not using up a vital Global Cooldown)

PvP (Arena, BG/RBG, WPvP): (See note at bottom)

Large BGs/RBGs - Offensive: (Deathmatch/HK/KB offensive focused play)
Arms Warrior
---
Large BGs/RBGs - Defensive: (Survival focused esp: CTF or CC-heavy play; defensive focused)
Arms Warrior & Protection Warrior
--- Avatar -or- Storm Bolt (Dependant on roll such as Flag Carrier or Flag Defender; dependant on team-mates' CC abilities.)
Arenas, Small BG/RBGs:
--- Situational ---
Note: When playing with a tight knit team; one in which both their and your success and failure heavily depends on each other, Always coordinate with your team before-hand for serious or rated matches. The stun of Storm Bolt, the semi-CC Break and burst of Avatar, and the Bleed/Snare of Bloodbath must be weighed against your team-mates' abilities, skill, roles, and team utility (CCs, Offensive/Defensive CDs, Heals, etc).
WPvP: (World PvP / Open world; non-instanced)
- Preventing being ganked / avoiding WPvP
--- Storm Bolt (Enough time to stun enemy and leave combat / mount up)
- Engaging or Ganking others intentionally in WPvP
--- Situational ---
Note: If attempting to engage intentionally in WPvP, always assess each situation / enemy as a unique encounter and decide on the best method of taking him/her down before engaging in combat.
Note from Main PvP Header (Fury / Fury Talents in PvP / WPvP)
--- Fury is just bad in legitimate / Rated PvP. Any talent is "viable" or passable, but due to their reliance on the enrage mechanic to trigger damaging attacks, as well as rage-starvation issues, it is not recommended to play Fury in PvP.
However, situationally in WPvP with heavy PvE gear, Fury has astonishing burst

Comment by smackthekids

Tired of those annoying people always trying to duel you outside of Orgrimmar !

Here's the answer to all of life's problems:
Avatar + Grow x 2 + Drums of Rage + Mr. Smite's Brass Compass + (either Vrykul Drinking Horn or Darkmoon Firewater) + Using Kiril, Fury of Beasts to proc Fury of the Beast buff via attacking with using Glyph of Mighty Victory when the duel begins =

.....................
..........................................
....................................................................

**opponent cancels duel**
** Opponent changes underwear **

Comment by Th3KoolAidman

Warning: If you are tanking Mark of Anguish in SoO, beware that Avatar WILL remove the mark from you, because it counts as a root. I learned this the hard way :(

Comment by Adunai

In the description below picture 6, there is a typo, it should be "the", not "they".

Comment by St3f

Still not viable after 3 years. Don't take this talent!

Comment by MRTF

Strange, I remembered that Avatar made you immune to all CCs. Including stuns in WC3.

It just doesn't make sense to me how Bladestorm makes you immune to stun (you're spinning around, I'd get a headache by doing that).
Yet in Avatar form, where you transform into a colossus, it doesn't make you immune to stuns?

I don't think Muradin would approve this.

Edit: It seems I got mixed up with the spell immunity. You can see the info here if you're interested: http://classic.battle.net/war3/human/units/mountainking.shtml

PS. I still think that Avatar should possess at least more defensive bonuses than Bladestorm.

Comment by curajacaster

I used to always avoid this ability cause it just seems lorebreaking if you're not playing a dwarf but now it's baseline and the only damage buff available so I have to use it. I wish there were some sort of glyph that just makes it look like berserker rage with glowy red hands instead of turning into giant stone. My warrior is a human and he doesn't know magic (so even thunder stomp and shockwave are a bit of a stretch too) so it just seems a little too magical imo.

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Avatar

Avatar

Talent

Instant	1.5 min cooldown

Transform into a colossus for 20 sec, causing you to deal 20% increased damage and removing all roots and snares.

Generates (100 / 10) Rage.

Buff

Avatar

Damage done increased by 20%.
20 seconds remaining

Spell Details

Duration

20 seconds

School

Physical

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

n/a

Cost

None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

1.5 minutes

GCD

0 seconds

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Value: 20%
PVP Multiplier: 0.75
Affected Spells:

	Slam	Hamstring	Shield Slam
	Victory Rush	Heroic Throw	Deep Wounds
	Cleave	Rend	Thunder Clap
	Revenge	Overpower	Mortal Strike
	Bloodthirst	Shockwave	Shattering Throw
	Storm Bolt	Dragon Roar	Colossus Smash
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	Impending Victory	Skullsplitter	Warbreaker
	Siegebreaker	Onslaught	Wrecking Throw
	Thunderous Roar	Odyn's Fury	Rend
	Devastate	Reckless Flurry	Gushing Wound
	Spear of Bastion	Condemn	Condemn
	Condemn Off-Hand	Ancient Aftershock	Repulsive Pennant
	Ancient Rubble	Ionizing Strike

Effect #2

Give Power (Rage)
Value: 10
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #3

Apply Aura: Mod Auto Attack Damage %
Value: 20%
PVP Multiplier: 0.75

Effect #4

Apply Aura On Pet: Modifies Periodic Damage/Healing Done (22)
Value: 20%
PVP Multiplier: 0.75
Affected Spells:

	Slam	Hamstring	Shield Slam
	Victory Rush	Heroic Throw	Deep Wounds
	Cleave	Rend	Thunder Clap
	Revenge	Overpower	Mortal Strike
	Bloodthirst	Shockwave	Shattering Throw
	Storm Bolt	Dragon Roar	Colossus Smash
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	Impending Victory	Skullsplitter	Warbreaker
	Siegebreaker	Onslaught	Wrecking Throw
	Thunderous Roar	Odyn's Fury	Rend
	Devastate	Reckless Flurry	Gushing Wound
	Spear of Bastion	Condemn	Condemn
	Condemn Off-Hand	Ancient Aftershock	Repulsive Pennant
	Ancient Rubble	Ionizing Strike

Effect #5

Apply Aura: Mod Resistance % (Arcane, Fire, Frost, Holy, Nature, Physical, Shadow)
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #6

Script Effect
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #7

Apply Aura: Mod Size %
Value: 30%
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #8

Apply Aura: Modifies Cooldown (11)
Value: -1.5 seconds
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Cleave

Effect #9

Apply Aura: Modifies Cooldown (11)
Value: -1.5 seconds
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Bloodthirst

Effect #10

Apply Aura: Modifies Power Cost (14)
Value: -200
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Rampage

Effect #11

Apply Aura: Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Value: 50%
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Thunder Clap		Shockwave

Effect #12

Apply Aura: Modifies Cooldown (11)
Value: -50 milliseconds%
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Thunder Clap

Flags

Is Ability
Cannot be used while shapeshifted
Do Not Sheath
Can be used while sitting
Generates no threat
Remove auras on immunity
Unaffected by school immunity
Aura Points On Client
Allow Class Ability Procs
Nameplate Personal Buffs/Debuffs
Prevent Jumping During Precast

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