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Comentário de 175315

This FINALLY allows ferals to AoE tank properly.
Wariors have Thunderclap and Shockwave, Paladins Consecriation and DKs Death and decay and Blood boil.
We had only Swipe and Berserk, both of whitch hit only 3 targets.

Comentário de 354190

Question for the bèta guys

Does it confuse you after 3 uses?

Comentário de 629499

Good little something for druid tanking. Swipe swipe swipe swipe was just boring, atleast now i have to look at the button(s) i'm pressing. Well, i assume it's an AoE...it doesn't seem to state it.

Comentário de 341063

This is gonna be... Something. In 4.0.1 That Hits Today, Druids only have Swipe with 6s CD if I am not Mistaken. That's gonna be fun :P
(Hence this ability requires 81 level)

Comentário de 169059

anyone have any idea if this will share a cd with swipe like heroic strike and cleave share a cooldown for a warrior?

Comentário de Clownslayer

This ability is amazing. I used it to tank in stonecore today, and I was stunned by the great AoE threat I got. After six months of not tanking, this really alleviated my fears that I would lose aggro. Totally awesome.

Comentário de FuxieDK

Debuff on target(s) says "Bleeding for $ over 6 sec.".. That's truely epic...

If only Goblins could be druids, then the tooltip would be correct ;)

Comentário de domie1595

I have a macro i like to use for bear tanking inclouding this and swipe:

#show Thrash(Bear Form)
/castsequence reset=5 Thrash(Bear Form), Swipe(Bear Form)

for the people that aint used to macros, this will just cast Thrash, then if you press it again, cast swipe. it got the 5 second reset, so every time you engage a new pack you Trash will be the first spell cast again.
Tho i like to still keep swipe on my bars for those situations where your missing the 10 rage more swipe costs.

Comentário de 807425

Quick question, This ability seems to have 2 parts the dmg then the dot. The tooltip is very clear on the dot (applied to all targets in range) but what about the dmg is that applied to all or just your target?

Comentário de 807425

To answer my own question, Yes the Dmg and the Dot effect all targets hit.
Also compare the Dot to 3 stacks of Lacerate and bow before Thrash for me its about twice the dmg of 3 stacks of lac.

Comentário de SoooWhoCares

Some words of warning to these macros:

#showtooltip
/cast Swipe
/cast Thrash

This one doesn't work "just fine". It only casts Swipe. Nothing else.

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=6/target Thrash(Bear Form), Swipe(Bear Form)

This macro won't let you use Swipe until Thrash is ready. Additionally when switching the target and Swipe was usable before you'll make it non-usable untill you could use Thrash and then you mustn't switch the target to do so.

Castsequence macros also never reset when they are spammed because each time the button is pressed the reset time counting begins anew. That will cause the castsequence macro to use spell by spell in the order they are listed and when finished to begin anew while the reset time is never reached as long as someone spams.

My macro atm looks like this and supports cat and bear with all 3 abilites:
#showtooltip
/startattack
/cast Thrash(Bear Form); Swipe(Bear Form)
/cast Swipe(Cat Form)

You'll only be able to use Thrash when pressing a modifier (I use alt). Without a modifier Swipe will be used.
My button for this ability is #3 so it's not so far away from that key. Also you could bind any AE skill you often use to a mouse button with an addon like Bindpad.

Comentário de SoooWhoCares

There are 2 effects triggered when using this ability:
-a direct hit attacking everything within 8y around the druid
-a bleeding dot that is applied to all targets that were hit

The bleeding dot:
-ticks every 2s, 3 times to a total 6s
-can crit for twice the damage
-bleed damage increasing effects buff the dot
-ignores the armor

Additional info:
-when used and no target exists it'll automatically chose a target
-because the bleeding dot lasts as long as the ability is on cooldown you can also watch the enemie's debuffs to see if the ability is ready

Scaling (including ):
Swipe: 7.8217 AP per point of damage -> 12.7849% AP scaling
Thrash: 9.7961 AP per point of damage -> 10.2081% AP scaling
Thrash (Dot): 19.1734 AP per point of damage over 6s -> 5.2156% AP scaling

Comentário de 408415

the more bleeds the better IMO :)

Comentário de kgurnhill

The initial damage appears to increase on targets with the mangle debuff on them :)
Tested this in Mount Hyjal on a level 81 druid, 2 worgen, one with mangle debuff on him and one without.
The worgen without mangle took 1,661 damage and the one with mangle took just over 2,000 damage! :)

Comentário de WyvernVJ

Buffs and debuffs map (5.4.2)

Buffs

Stats
Effect: +5% Strength, Agility, and Intellect
Brought by: Any Druida (Marca do Indomado), any Monge (), and any Paladino ().

Stamina
Effect: +10% Stamina
Brought by: Any Sacerdote (Palavra de Poder: Fortitude), any Bruxo (), and any Guerreiro ().

Attack Power
Effect: +10% melee and ranged attack power
Brought by: Any Cavaleiro da Morte (Berrante do Inverno), any Caçador (), and any Guerreiro (Brado de Batalha).

Spell Power
Effect: +10% spell power
Brought by: Any Mago (Intelecto Arcano/), any Xamã (), and any Bruxo ().

Haste
Effect: +10% melee and ranged haste
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Cavaleiro da Mortes (), any Ladino (), and Enhancement Xamãs ().

Spell Haste
Effect: +5% spell haste
Brought by: Balance Druidas (), Shadow Sacerdote (), and Elemental Xamãs ().

Critical Strike
Effect: +5% ranged, melee, and spell critical chance
Brought by: Guardian and Feral Druidas (), windwalker Monges () and any Mago (Intelecto Arcano/).

Mastery
Effect: +3000 mastery
Brought by: Any Paladino (), and any Xamã ().

Debuffs

Weakened Armor
Effect: -12% armor
Brought by: Any Druida (), any Ladino (Toque Místico), and any Guerreiro ().

Physical Vulnerability
Effect: +4% physical damage taken
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Cavaleiro da Mortes ( and ), Retribution Paladinos (), and Arms and Fury Guerreiros ().

Magic Vulnerability
Effect: +5% spell damage taken
Brought by: Any Ladino (), and any Bruxo (Marca do Caos).

Weakened Blows
Effect: -10% physical damage done.
Brought by: Blood Cavaleiro da Mortes (), Feral and Guardian Druidas (Surra and Surra), Brewmaster Monges (Pancada de Barril), Protection or Retribution Paladinos (Martelo do Íntegro), any Xamã (Choque Terreno), any Bruxo (), and any Guerreiro (Trovoada).

Slow Casting
Effect: -50% casting speed (-25% on players)
Brought by: Any Cavaleiro da Morte (Golpe Necrótico), Arcane Magos (Retardar), any Ladino (Veneno Entorpecente), and any Bruxo ().

Mortal Wounds
Effect: -25% healing received
Brought by: Arms or Fury Guerreiros (Golpe Mortal and Corte Furioso), any Ladino (Veneno Ferino), any Caçador (), and Windwalker Monges (Chute do Sol Nascente).

Note: Buffs and debuffs provided by pets, profession perks, items and any other NPC are left out on purpose.

Comentário de VelRav

Strange thing is that using Thrash in macros, it's always in disabled state, like if you are out of range.
Macro's are working just as expected, but "grayed out". It is rather confusing.
Even the most simple macro like (#showtooltip/startattack/cast Thrash) is "grayed out" :(

I wonder if anyone knows, what's the problem there?

P.S.: No such problems with Swipe or Mangle...

Comentário de raensen

From Guardian Guide

Legendaries
Due to the changes to the Guardian Druid scenario, legendaries can greatly increase your chance at success.
Your first legendary should ideally be Luffa Wrappings. This will easily allow you to Thrash the Inquisitor from outside his Aura of Decay with Balance Affinity
An alternative is Ekowraith, Creator of Worlds which will also allow you to Thrash the Inquisitor from outside but at a slightly smaller radius

Lets see

Ranges:

Surra: 8 yards
Afinidade com Equilíbrio: 5 yards

For Vestes de Bucha

(8+5) * 1.25 = 16,25 ~ 17 yards

or

(8*1,25) + 5 = 15 yards

For Ekospectro, Criador de Mundos

8 + (5 * 1,75) = 16,75 ~ 17 yards

So as the result looks. With Ekko you have a higher range or the same after rounding. Please point out my failure if i made one, but for me it seem to be that Ekko is the better option for simply range.

I dont understand "Thrash the Inquisitor from outside but at a slightly smaller radius"

Comentário de sadistic12345

guardian tanking guide in a nutshell

Comentário de Mozarella2006

For anyone struggling with ElvUI, as a guardian druid trying to track Thrash stacks on target, I had to use this one's ID: Surra

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Surra

Surra
Alcance de 8m

Instantâneo	6 seg de recarga

Ataca todos os inimigos próximos, causando ([95% of Attack Power]) de dano de Sangramento, mais ([32% of Attack Power]) de dano de Sangramento ao longo de 15 s. Ao ser aplicado da Forma de Urso, este efeito pode acumular até 3 vezes.

Gera 5 de Raiva.

Detalhes do Feitiço

Duração

n/d

Escola

Físico

Mecânica

Sangrando

Tipo de dissipação

n/d

Categoria GCD

Normal

Custo

Nenhum

Alcance

8 metros (Shorter)

Tempo de lançamento

Instantâneo

Recarga

6 segundos

GCD

1.5 segundos

Formulários

Forma de Urso

Efeito nº1

School Damage (Físico) (Mod AP:0.95)
Mecânica: Sangrando
Raio:8 metros
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1

Efeito nº2

Give Power (Raiva)
Valor:5
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1

Bandeiras

[Is Ability]
[Do Not Sheath]
[Initiates Combat (Enabled Auto-Attack)]
[Treat as Area Effect]
[Always AOE Line of Sight]
[Periodic Can Crit]
[Aura Points On Client]
[Allow Class Ability Procs]

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Best Guardian Druid Legendaries Legion Druid Class Changes Necrolord Guardian Druid Guide Overview of Tanking and All Tank Specs [L90 / MoP] Guardian Druid Tanking Guide (Update Pending)

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