Everything About Hero Talents in The War Within

Por Jaydaa Atualizado: 22/8/2024

What Are Hero Talents?Hero Talent Details

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The War Within expansion introduces Hero Talents to World of Warcraft classes. They are an evergreen form of character progression for each class specialization that introduces new powers and class fantasies.

What Are Hero Talents?
Hero Talents are new, self-contained talent trees that are unlocked for characters at level 71. Hero Talents build on the abilities and talents of current classes and specializations. Players can choose a single Hero Talent tree to activate on a character and these talents can be changed in the same way class talents can be currently changed in the game. There are three Hero Talent trees for each class (except Druid with four and Demon Hunter with two). Each specialization has two Hero Talent trees they can choose between, and each of these trees is available as an option for two specializations.

There are 11 nodes in a Hero Talent tree. The first of these unlocks with the system at level 71, and you earn 1 talent point per level from level 71 to 80, so you get every talent in the tree by level 80.

Each Hero Talent tree starts with a “keystone” talent that introduces the core mechanic and concept of the tree. This could be a new ability, an enhancement to an existing ability or cooldown, or a new buff you can trigger. The bottom talent of each tree is a “capstone” talent that builds on the core themes of the tree or adds new power to the keystone.

Each tree will offer or modify some class utility and include defensive bonuses that are useful to all specializations. We aim for all trees to be about equal in the amount of utility and defensiveness they provide. Trees for characters that can take on a tanking role may have some additional defense bonuses that will be less valuable to healers or damage dealers (DPS), such as bonuses to tank talents or cooldowns. Three or four nodes in each tree will be choice nodes where you can choose between two options.

Hero Talent TreesTalent Calculator. Death KnightDemon HunterDruidEvokerHunterMageMonkPaladinPriestRogueShamanWarlockWarriorWhat Hero Talents are Best for My Spec?

Comentários

Comentário de Dekardcaiin

Pretty excited for hero talents. Cant wait to check out Alpha.

Comentário de LuckilyDuckily

this is the most excited ive been for a new system since i started playing, god i hope blizzard doesnt choke and/or give up on it lol

Comentário de Kriszidan

I really hope Blizzard gets it together because these look pretty lackluster so far. I mean nobody cares about 5-10% dmg increase and 3% leech and so on.... We want exciting passives or new abilites or new interactions between abilites not % dmg increases and such that's just something nobody cares about in my opinion. I don't even care we only get a few of these if they are exciting just don't put in these lackluster talents that doesn't really do anything because it makes these look like a joke to be honest.

Comentário de Fleshhunter

San'layn seems to have anti-synergy with Blood DK talent Crimson Scourge. Because you cannot auto-attack someone to refresh DnD if blood plague is consumed?

Comentário de Ballagorn

I will remain on my DK in War Within, unless Prot Warrior or Pally would be able to weild two handed weapon with a shield. Or even better make Templar, Colossus and Deathbringer to do that insanity no matter of dps or tank specs

Comentário de mikedarling905

have they even said anything for monks yet?

Comentário de strayshiloh

oracle priest looks super cool, reminds me a lot of old school astrologian from ff14.

Comentário de Etamalgren

Druid of the Claw when?

Comentário de hysilla

should let monks have a glyph that lets you use weapons to attack with, like an opposite glyph of jab.
and you should let some classes use more weapons like monks with 2h swords.
Then my orc will be a blade master.

Comentário de TehLucario

Know some of these aren't well liked but I'm still excited. Work in progress and all that so hope by alpha what's not liked is ironed out a bit too. But aside from that the theming seems super fun and am excited for the final results.

Comentário de Auralyon

The absolute disrespect giving MM/BM hunters Black Arrow when it originated as and has historically been a Survival ability.

Comentário de Druidicfate

Kind of surprised no one has pointed out that these are just glyph powers.... Some of them are direct copies from ones in Wrath Classic right now.

Comentário de Ketsutoro

I'm disappointed we haven't seen any DH stuff yet. Really interested to see what they plan to do with us.

Comentário de OR3IGN

Nothing so far for Arcane or Affliction?

If I may...hero talents/abilities to lessen restrictions on Arcane would be very welcome. Something that allows movement during Shifting Power, etc.

*Blizz has seriously over-governed this spec - in an attempt to 'balance'. What should be one of the most powerful (according to lore) specs...is currently a joke & needs love.

Comentário de Arubicon

This is bs imo. All they have done is taken a specs individual abilities and now made them across all specs. The uniqeness of a charactor, desire to try ot build something different is completely gone. There is always only one spec for each class in each role that excels because the balancing is always way off. Now add in the fact that you can be a guardian resto druid, or a arcane mage that deals major fire damage or a blood dk with unholy burst or some other crap, makes this game go from going bad to getting way worse. Toons are now flooded with the need to have 3 bars to handle their abilities and even then it may not be enough. There is no diversity amongst toons. How many have a battle res, or hero now? Those were a single class per race specific and made you a value to a raid team. Now with the self heal and the other bs, you can watch a player solo a 25 key. Blizz, ya need to get back to your roots. I am not one to play classic ( you can never truly relive those first few kills), but toons were unique. Thats part of the success classic is having; old school players dont like the bs mangle of chars that are around now.

Comentário de Vuky

Druid's feral ones are great, druid is finally able to properly change forms while tanking or healing.
DK's vampire mechanic with damage reduction when on low life, leech and damage increase is great, not mentioning the full hp ally ress.
DK's apocalypse horsemans is amazing, also being able to mount while in battle.
Paladins summoning buffs for ppl to get is very cool.
Shaman's summoning ancestors is amazing, but they need a good variety to not become visually boring, and a variety of skills used too.

All other classes seems boring to me, damage modification isnt something who makes me hype, ill choose wathever talents boost more and thats it.

Comentário de piper

I am really hyped for getting frostfire back! I was super sad when they took it away. It just looks cool and gives some nostalgia bait, which I usually avoid falling for but this time? I'M INNNNN

Can't wait! Let's gooooooo!

The shatter tree is obv AOE heavy, which I don't generally go for, but I'm a casual who farms old content so I don't really NEED that, but I can see that being VERY popular for M+. Def excited to see how that looks, I bet it'll be awesome

Comentário de heatOW

I'll have to comment here since I don't have an active sub. As a warrior main eyeing specifically colossus, I think it's alright. I'm glad they reserved one tree for more down-to-earth warriors. I still don't get the 'colossus' aesthetic, I always envisioned Achilles from the Troy movie. Together with demolish and the size increase, it's like the devs want to make me feel like a dark souls boss. But anyway I think the incentives to build crit are great, I always thought it was under utilized especially since prot has a lot of crit dmg modifiers. I also like the demolish root, I like having different textures of offense, not just hit button -> attack. But I wish they would've gone about it differently.

I wished they leaned in more on our existing procs and making them hit harder, perform faster, or even behave differently when consumed alone or sequentially with other procs. I would replace an ability like this in place of demolish.
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I.e I just got a sudden death proc. I can use "demolish" to turn my next execute into a channeled execute that deals massively increased damage.

Or I just got a shield slam proc, I activate 'demolish', my proc gets stronger each second to a cap, I also gain some movement speed but I can only use defensive cds until I consume the proc. The defensives I use during this window are less effective but have less cd.

For my revenge procs, after activating 'demolish', my next 2 offensive abilities have much faster gcd, consume no rage, but are weaker.

I like the idea of this new 'demolish' being a charge-based ability, because I have the option to spend charges as they come off cooldown for smaller, more frequent impact, or I can hold charges to max stacks to spend them all at once for maximum proc enhancement. These decisions lean stronger into the martial master tactician-fantasy. Whereas the current demolish builder-spender loop feels more-of-the-same as existing mechanics. Maybe the lower charge expenditures are just stat increases to procs, with higher expenditures incur the effects I listed above. Not just for balance reasons, but also playstyle reasons; for the players who feel overwhelmed by all the choices and want simpler gameplay.

Comentário de Nightgale

Rider of the Apocalypse yea , so excited, love it . It's perfect for my beloved main DK .

Comentário de 0Aloreth

Can this guide include Blizzard's taglines for each tree as well? The most important part of hero talents is their fantasy.

Comentário de PziCrow

Hmm, what a load of garbage. Can't use any of the Hero Talent trees.

Comentário de CataFREAK74

Some of these should just not be so heavily themed. I'm an orc hunter, why would I have anything to do with dark rangers or sentinels? the theming is so off. Also, Mountain Thanes are a Dwarf thing, being a mountain thane as an undead makes 0 sense

Comentário de Lostartes

From what I read up top, these "hero" talents require you to use the same points you put into your main/spec trees. If that is the case, unless I am forced to do otherwise, I will not be putting any points into them and just use them in the normal trees.

Comentário de GhettoNinja

Trickster Rogue sounds good but press feint for dps? Very very bad game design. Delete this pls!

Comentário de meganerd18

Not quite class skins, but close enough to satisfy me for now.

Comentário de bannyvader

Where are the opinion pieces for each talent tree? They should be included in this article.

Like this one where all of the classes are organized:

https://www.wowhead.com/news/a-look-back-at-windwalker-monk-in-dragonflight-and-war-within-wishlist-editorial-337540

Comentário de EverChosen

For Ele and Enh could they not just add something to play around lightning shield to make it an actual Defensive, Something thats more than just a button you press every hour.
Make it like if you have full charges of lightning shield you take 30 percent reduced damage from all sources and then for every charge of lightning shield that gets used the damge reduction is also reduced down to 5 percent. and then give it like a 45 second to 1 min cd.

Comentário de Vraeya

Some of the spells, like black arrow (hunter) eternal flame (pally) and frostfire bolt (mage) aren't new, they are older talents removed and added again claimed to be new. Blizz took away the three trees you can spec into and seems to be headed back to them. I don't like the fact they call them new talents but I'm glad they are blending the trees again.

Comentário de Kaldonis

New and updated Hero Specialization icons. They are largely unlabeled, but some are clear.

Comentário de Setuaro

Conceptually, Hero Talents are interesting, however I feel that many people would have been much more appreciative with a way to alter the visuals of their abilities more directly instead of being forced into a theme that may not fit the fantasy of the character they've created for themselves. The Fel Fire grimoire in Pandaria was the perfect first step and since then... nothing... literally nothing. It's been squandered. It does NOT provide the kind of class fantasy everyone wants from their classes. I may just be salty as someone who's a Roleplayer with plenty of thoughts on how the Magic in lore is simply far too vague and open-ended to be good or comprehensible but their priorities for the classes have not at all been where it should be.

God knows that many Evokers for instance felt slighted when learning that they couldn't be tanks despite there being a weyrn entirely dedicated to protecting. Let's not even get us started on the fact we see a variety of weapons and most prominently halberds- that we can't even wear in-game in the end!

But I digress, barring the clear lack of interest in what the players actually want... Hero Talents seem like just another meta pick-me feature rather than actual flavouring. A feature that I believe they should either remove or change to become more of an aesthetic thing over functional.

Comentário de Nishoku

so uh, still no feral/balance

Comentário de Eighjan

THIS page needs a bigger (stronger?) focus on the main site page, to enable players with a lot of characters to be able to remind themselves of what the combinations for their pre-L71 specc.'s are...

Comentário de MelanaAdara

So does this mean we don't get to fill in the rest of our normal talents. I've just hit 71 on my first character and I'm not particularly impressed. I wanted some of the abilities I haven't got yet. I thought they'd given us extra talents so we could use them as we levelled to 80. To my mind this just makes it more restrictive. In the end we have to use all the talents on the tree we choose, so we're not getting any real choice. I'd much rather continue using the original talents. Add to that the tree I chose requires me to have the talent which lets you call out treants. I didn't choose that because I didn't want it so now I feel penalised for my early choices.
On the whole I'm not happy and will probably just ignore them.

Everything About Hero Talents in The War Within

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