Events with Slow Loot Methods? Ion Hazzikostas Discusses Reward Cadence in Interview with GamesRadar+

Posted 2024/11/22 at 7:38 AM by Anshlun

Ion Hazzikostas

We can always buff the rewards. We're never going to nerf the rewards, really, right? If things go out too fast and generous, we'll never pull that back. And so, while playing a bit of that guessing game of trying to pick the right values, we may tend to err on the conservative side.

Hopefully, the players understand we'll be fast and responsive if it feels like we've missed the mark. We hear the feedback from the community loud and clear.

Ion Hazzikostas

When we look at something like the 20th anniversary, there's quite a lot to do there, and there's a lot that's fresh and novel that the players will enjoy over the course of the 11.0.5 update. At the same time, we want to ensure people aren't running out of reasons to do content that they would otherwise want to do too soon.

Even if they really enjoyed the 20th-anniversary content, there was this sense of 'I already have been spending a bunch of time doing dungeons and delves and leveling these other alts. This feels like too much to ask on top of that,' That's the part we hadn't grasped until we heard the feedback loud and clear when live.

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Comment by rinkworksIn general, nothing wrong with this. However, the idea that they'll be "fast and responsive if it feels missed the mark" is demonstrably untrue if you remember early Remix. People said the bronze rewards were too stingy, and Blizzard waited a long time before even responding, and then argued and said they think the bronze rewards are about right, and they have no plans to increase them.

They did the right thing in the end. And to be fair to Blizzard, most other event buffs of this sort have been prompt. Honestly, I have no bitterness at all over Remix either -- they took care of it eventually, and I loved the event. But a little honesty about the screw-up there would have been nice.Comment by KYZ123Seems reasonable.

We've seen many times what happens when rewards are given out too generously - e.g. WoD garrisons and rampant gold inflation. It can't be taken back.

Does it suck to have a week of two where you're getting far too little? Of course. But that can be fixed and is fixed; overly generous rewards are forever broken.Comment by Greengrovegranny"We'll never nerf the rewards"

Timerunning?Comment by DaieonIn general, nothing wrong with this. However, the idea that they'll be "fast and responsive if it feels missed the mark" is demonstrably untrue if you remember early Remix. People said the bronze rewards were too stingy, and Blizzard waited a long time before even responding, and then argued and said they think the bronze rewards are about right, and they have no plans to increase them.

They did the right thing in the end. And to be fair to Blizzard, most other event buffs of this sort have been prompt. Honestly, I have no bitterness at all over Remix either -- they took care of it eventually, and I loved the event. But a little honesty about the screw-up there would have been nice.Comment by wyrdedidnt they nerf timerunning badges substantially? they've now added back acquisition methods using bronze so you can just buy timerunning badges, but it's still quite a low rate. thankfully all the 5k mounts for the 20th anni seem to drop from the world bosses, but as someone who's never paid a huge amount of attention to timerunning before now my stash of badges was never that large to begin with. to nerf acquisition at the anni start kinda sucked.Comment by ZeroEdgeirThey didn't "nerf" Timewarped Badges. They re-balanced them because they are now a Warbound currency. The rules for the currency changed, so they adjusted the rate of acquisition due to it.

Yes, you cannot get 500 per toon for 1 dungeon per TW week. It's now 500 for the 1st, and 200 (IIRC) for subsequent. And you cannot do the quest until level 30 as of this week (cause people were making level 10s, doing 1, transfer the currency, delete, repeat. Exploitative behaviour).

But they also doubled the boss drop badges from 5 to 10, and the dungeon completion were tripled (? I know it was more than doubled).

But this is all because you can now trade them between toons. Before you couldn't, so if you wanted a mount, that was an investment from one toon. Now, it can be done trivially between multiple (moreso before they lowered the additional toon rates).Comment by MarkElfIn general, nothing wrong with this. However, the idea that they'll be "fast and responsive if it feels missed the mark" is demonstrably untrue if you remember early Remix. People said the bronze rewards were too stingy, and Blizzard waited a long time before even responding, and then argued and said they think the bronze rewards are about right, and they have no plans to increase them.

They did the right thing in the end. And to be fair to Blizzard, most other event buffs of this sort have been prompt. Honestly, I have no bitterness at all over Remix either -- they took care of it eventually, and I loved the event. But a little honesty about the screw-up there would have been nice.Comment by KiorelleI do agree with the feeling that doing the Anniversary stuff is keeping me from doing other stuff, but.... The Anniversary is a set time of year. They can't -move- that. It's an anniversary! The other stuff isn't going anywhere.

So, yeah...my spouse and I have put our characters that are running the actual WW story content and unlocking things on the backburner, to focus on the awesome leveling provided by the anniversary event, with the knowledge that having our alts all levelled will free us up to do whatever we want for the rest of the expansion. That's a worthwhile tradeoff, IMHO. So what if we're a few weeks behind? We're always a few weeks behind anyway.

The only downside that I see is that I won't have Earthen unlocked in time to level one up with the anniversary event, but...meh. No big deal.Comment by markdallIn general, nothing wrong with this. However, the idea that they'll be "fast and responsive if it feels missed the mark" is demonstrably untrue if you remember early Remix. People said the bronze rewards were too stingy, and Blizzard waited a long time before even responding, and then argued and said they think the bronze rewards are about right, and they have no plans to increase them.

They did the right thing in the end. And to be fair to Blizzard, most other event buffs of this sort have been prompt. Honestly, I have no bitterness at all over Remix either -- they took care of it eventually, and I loved the event. But a little honesty about the screw-up there would have been nice.Comment by Eddafred"We'll be fast and responsive if it feels like we've missed the mark."

:/Comment by TOMRUSHopefully, the players understand we'll be fast and responsive if it feels like we've missed the mark. We hear the feedback from the community loud and clear.Comment by MillordyIn general, nothing wrong with this. However, the idea that they'll be "fast and responsive if it feels missed the mark" is demonstrably untrue if you remember early Remix. People said the bronze rewards were too stingy, and Blizzard waited a long time before even responding, and then argued and said they think the bronze rewards are about right, and they have no plans to increase them.

They did the right thing in the end. And to be fair to Blizzard, most other event buffs of this sort have been prompt. Honestly, I have no bitterness at all over Remix either -- they took care of it eventually, and I loved the event. But a little honesty about the screw-up there would have been nice.Comment by sapiensBlizzard really, really needs to consider (and respect) player (average) age - many, if not most pl probably cant no-life content any more, due to adult responsibilities.

personally TWW release forced me on a rigid schedule, had to cancel m+ for delves, raid and (completionist) open world, as my weekly gametime limit is 14h max (incl. 2-3h alt army maintenance, cuz goblin).

while i appreciate content cadence and volume, TWW s1 mythic track progression personally feels a bit "tight" in time requirements.

i would love to PvP (again), as i would love to play Arcane (alt) and do nearly everything else (luckily close to 800 mounts and toys, 35k+ AVs), but adult responsibilities > WoW.

overall Blizzard should consider progression pacing in context of content volume and cadence, i shouldnt feel forced to prioritize gear progression over content with 14h weekly - which is exclusively a time issue. as raid is 2x 3h, dungeon 8x 30-40min (incl queue simulator) = 4-5h, delves 8x 15-20 min = 2 - 2,5h, goblin 2h, open world 2h - ups iam already 4+h above my weekly budget without considering the 2h+ anniversary content a week...Comment by Swiff690Havoc dh has been one of the most underpowered and unchanged class since tww ptr & yet they haven't recieved 1 buff. None of their talents in either tree have been touched in over a year and a half. When it comes to response time blizzard you suck at everything. Enhance been topping the charts all season by a mile but who cares.Comment by Britin"We'll never nerf the rewards"

Timerunning?Comment by WizzlepantsIn general, nothing wrong with this. However, the idea that they'll be "fast and responsive if it feels missed the mark" is demonstrably untrue if you remember early Remix. People said the bronze rewards were too stingy, and Blizzard waited a long time before even responding, and then argued and said they think the bronze rewards are about right, and they have no plans to increase them.

They did the right thing in the end. And to be fair to Blizzard, most other event buffs of this sort have been prompt. Honestly, I have no bitterness at all over Remix either -- they took care of it eventually, and I loved the event. But a little honesty about the screw-up there would have been nice.Comment by SesethiIf I won a dollar for everytime Ion and their team use the "lessons learned" argument for anything I think I'd be able to buy a PS5 Pro by nowComment by MyratyCThey needed to extent anniversary event until end of January, ideally until S2 starts. Problem fixed!Comment by Dolorosa"We never pull back" he says, while pvp world quests in current maps don't give honor anymore, making impossible for non pvp players to get the tour achieves.Comment by SoulSoBreezy"We'll never nerf the rewards"

Timerunning?

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