Yeah, it also has the awful RNG pattern learning alchemy used to have which was removed for being awful design but was totally fine for engineering to be given.
Easy to learn recipes?RNG... after 1600 recyling attempts... 1 recipe.
They need to give Enji a good toy or something to sell or cool enchant, it's pretty underwhelming this expac.
It's super expensive (engineering has always been, but this is really bad) and SUPER RNG-I haven't learned one recipe yet. Still waiting while I am nearly max leveled.
one of my main wants for engineering has been to move mail armour from leatherworking to engineering i feel like it would fit pretty well since mail is made up of small finicky parts the same way engineering devices are but i just don't think it'll happen
This looks horrible. Recycling is the only source of those engineering mats and at the same time most of the things engineering makes only needs those mats and not the normal crafted parts (which are down to only two. No bolts for the first time in I think ever for engineering). I actually made significant gold crafting bolts and parts in dragonflight and tww. Now I don't know if that will remain the case.Crafting Speed also doesn't effect recycling, so if recycling parts is the main "gold maker" then it adds a significant amount of time to sitting around crafting.
Recycling is a $%^&ing awful system. Here, spends hundreds of thousands of gold on crafting reagents in order to actually be able to use your profession!Whoever thought of this needs to be flayed alive.
so we went from the scrap system that was a net gain in materials if you did any content, to this system that manages to be a bigger drain on your resources than disenchanting...and engineering still is not profitable at all. WTF
They really should have taken the scrapping feature from BFA (tossing them in a machine to salvage parts) and made that an engineering feature, learning stuff that way. Really, that should just be available to all crafting profs.
I agree, this change has destroyed Engineering , NOT HELPED IT. It is now a profession limited to only the wealthiest of players that can afford to throw away hundreds of thousands of gold in order to level it.
Not to mention they put a ilvl cap on old engineering enchants like goblin glider for cloak. If Blizzard wants it to be this useless, I get the message loud and clear. I'm unlearning engineering after having it on this character since vanilla. Seriously I hope whoever designed engineering and made these changes loses their job.
Was this written by a bot? On what planet is forcing us to mulch things of ACTUAL VALUE better than an easily farmable mob resource? You'd seriously have to never have touched the game itself to understand how this is terrible and a massive downgrade.Unrelated but
Kinda sucks, I haven't learned a single recipe from recycling.
I wasn't sure it was working because its so rare to learn anything. It feels almost broken? It also seems like you need to learn the recycling spec and then level it to 10 to even get a chance to get any recipes, so if you follow the wowhead leveling guide you wont learn anything for the first 25 levels and you'll waste a bunch of recipe chances. Is there a higher chance for rare materials? What about higher quality materials? Totally unclear. Horribly obfuscated. Legitimately made more confusing than ever. The idea that this was a solution to the profession being "complex" is unbelievable. Dropped about 50k on the cheapest materials possible and learned absolutely nothing, so I can only hope thats because higher rank materials have a more reasonable chance to proc recipes (which if that is the case, it should be made clear in the menu somewhere). I learned most recipes almost immediately in TWW.
I made a brazen declaration that I'd level every crafting profession in Midnight to max. ...this one, however, sure as heck won't be one of them. 🤦♂️🙄
"This will make Engineering significantly more accessible for alts,"Why not simply make scrap parts warbound?It's such a chore having to craft materials both for recycling and for actual crafting.