Heart of the Valorous Buff Returning, Level 2 Garrison Screenshots and Calculator Updates

Posted 2014/07/09 at 12:29 PM by perculia

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Heart of the Valorous ReturningHeart of the Valorous2-week period between May 30 and June 10

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Beginning Friday, July 11 at 9:00 a.m. PDT, through Monday, July 14 at 9:00 a.m. PDT, we’ll be applying the Heart of the Valorous buff which will increase the rate of Valor Point gains an additional 100%. Don’t wait to get in on the action!

Mike Morhaime Discusses Diversity at BlizzardStarcunninga letterThe original postStarcunning's Tumblr

Dear ,

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns about your experiences with our games. I appreciated the points you made, so I shared your letter with others on our teams here and included it as part of the ongoing discussions we’ve been having on the subject.

I want to start by saying that we’re grateful to have such a diverse and passionate player base, and we want everyone to feel welcome, safe, and included in our games and communities. We have made some mistakes in how we’ve communicated about this and how we’ve reflected it in other ways, but we are working to improve. As Dustin mentioned in his apology for the comments you called out, we take the topic of inclusiveness seriously, and we don’t want any of our players to feel we are being insensitive in how we portray our characters.

There have been times when we’ve been seen or painted as being uninterested in hearing feedback or making changes. I want to be clear that this goes against the philosophies and core values on which Blizzard has been built and continues to operate. We will always listen, and we will always work hard to make games that appeal to as many people as possible.

We are very conscious of the issues you raise and are discussing them more than ever, at every level of the company, in an effort to make sure our games and stories are as epic and inclusive as possible. Blizzard’s employees form a broad and diverse group that cares deeply about the experiences we are creating for our players. And we know that actions speak louder than words, so we are challenging ourselves to draw from more diverse voices within and outside of the company and create more diverse heroes and content. We are also actively looking at our story development and other processes to ensure that our values are fully represented. We’ve always believed that positive, lasting change comes from examination, discussion, and iteration, and this applies as much to story as to gameplay. There is no reason why inclusivity should come at the expense of an amazing game experience.

I speak for everyone at Blizzard when I say that we will always remain open to feedback and discussions to help us improve. This will be an ongoing process for us—it’s likely that we will make mistakes again in the future, but we will continue to listen, learn, and grow. We care very much about what you think and what you’re getting out of our games, and we’re committed to reflecting our core values in our words as well as our actions.

I just want to close by saying thank you again. It’s clear that you care very much about your experiences in the games you play and that you believe our games can again deliver experiences that you value. We recognize how fortunate we are to have players who believe in us.

Sincerely,

Mike Morhaime

Garrison Calculator Updates

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Level 1: One small and one large plot.

Level 2: Two small, one medium, one large, Herb Garden Level 1, Fishing Shack Level 1 Lunarfall Excavation / Frostwall Mines Level 1 also unlocked.

Level 3: Three small, two medium, two large.

Level 2 Alliance GarrisonsLunarfall Excavation / Frostwall Mines Level 1Fishing Shack Level 1Menagerie Level 1Herb Garden Level 1Barracks Level 1Alchemy Lab Level 1Alchemy Lab Level 1Barracks Level 1Mysterious FlaskGift of the DraeneiShadows Awaken

Alliance: The Mysterious Flask, The Young Alchemist, The Missing Father, Shocking Assistance

Horde: The Mysterious Flask, The Alchemist, The Apprentice, Avenge and Reclaim.

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Comment by unoshilooks great so farComment by Wilson4721Oh man I'm getting so damn excited for this! I want it nowwwwww xDComment by 214269looks great i just disaprove that they reduced the max plot count to 7 nowComment by 335450I will miss having the fourth small plot.

The two support buildings (salvage yard, to get building materials and gold; and the storehouse, to increase the amount of storage for daily shipments in other buildings) are just too useful to not have.

Which leaves one plot open.

With a dual-gathering alt, you have the farm and the mine (both "free" plots) and the barn (medium plot; but has more than just leather). So that leaves the third plot open.

With a gathering/crafting alt, you have one of the "free" plots and the prof building for your crafting prof. Again, no problem.

But with a dual-crafting alt, you have to either abandon one of the support buildings, or one of your prof buildings. And that doesn't make me happy.

I LIKED having at least one set of plots where I don't have to make hard choices. :-( I could put armor-crafting buildings on my dual-gathering and gathering/crafting alts' garrisons (and have a leftover plot on the dual-gathering alt's garrison).

And with dual-crafting, I wouldn't have to make a hard choice.

Now, every aspect of garrisons is about hard, very unfun choices.

Edit: Gaaaaahhhh! Just saw (based on another person's comments...) that they reduced the medium and large garrison sizes, as well.

If this stays, it may be the final nail in the coffin for WoD for me. Garrisons were something I was excited about, even as they trimmed away tons of other stuff, but it's becoming less and less exciting...Comment by SweetTea123WoD can not get here fast enough.Comment by 335450"Interesting decisions are the key to good design."

Heh. Also, there's just being cruel. The decisions for medium and large were bad enough (get only 3 out 5, each). Now they're horrendous (get only 2 out of 5, each).

I think it's time for another hiatus for me.Comment by 214269well no really, to me at least being able to choose 3 out of 5 sounded like a good trade overall but now with 2 its like u are forced to choose, like pretty much the barracks is a must because of the followers boost and all then u have the armory that gives u the free roll which its also nice to have and before i could like place lets say for me the workshop cos i wanted a more militarize style for my main but now i just cant have that.

it reduces the size and again forces me to make way harder choices for something that was already fine and its less and less fun, then again hopefully they will reconsider /praysComment by mhess3654All of this sounds awesome, but I would like to know if the mats from the profession buildings are going to be BOP. That will ultimately influence my choice of buildings, or will the mats be like our current farms. I like to use multiple toons for my different professions.Comment by CaeruleI just can't believe they nerfed Garrisons again!

Used to be 3 Large plots, 3 Medium plots and 4 Small plots for buildings in Tier 3.
Now it'll be 2 Large plots, 2 Medium plots and 3 Small plots for buildings in Tier 3.

I was already finding it near-impossible to pick between buildings! Blargh, I'm going mad! :(Comment by 335450I had taken a year off (due to illness leading to exhaustion, and after recovery, just couldn't face going back to WoW).

Garrisons drew me back. But they're too generic--I want my garrison to be Pandaren/Mogu, darn it!

Then we couldn't put them where we wanted. (I always liked Nagrand.)

Then they limited the stat-shifting gear to WoD only, meaning I had to keep grinding for heirlooms (after spending four months grinding Darkmoon Faire and Argent Tournament), if I want to play a prot warrior or paladin, an elemental shaman, or a balance druid.

Then they moved the capitals away from the cool new cities (which, I'll be first to admit, they weren't central enough to be transport hubs, even before the faction capitals got moved to Ashran).

Then they started rolling in some of the specializations into perks (taking away some of the "interesting choices"), meaning some specializations I wanted weren't selected to be perks.

Then they took away the heirlooms tab, which means that all my alts have to STILL juggle heirlooms (and I don't get to withdraw multiples, so I can run multiple alts at once).

Now they are taking away almost half of the garrison buildings.

I'm done. I'm unsubbing. I'll come back for the anniversary and the pre-WoD launch month, to get whatever anniversary presents they offer and to see the opening of the Dark Portal, but that's it. I'm exhausted again, and am not happy with what they're doing with WoD.

Give me flight back, give me the heirloom tab, and make the garrison building less teeth-gnashingly "interesting decision"-y. And then I'll boost my last 6 alts on my main server, plus an Alliance DK, and happily play WoD.Comment by Kaerfemagshthey got rid of a large & medium plot? WHAT?Comment by 214269they got rid of 1 plot of each sizeComment by 335450they got rid of a large & medium plot? WHAT?Comment by RankkorI HEAVILY disapprove of the nerfing of the plots.

"Interesting decisions are good design" is a poor excuse. We already had to make a heavy set of decisions the first time around, with 5 types of large buildings and us only having 3, and 5 medium with us having to choose 3, and 10 small buildings with the option to choose 4.

I could understand (to a degree) reducing the number of small plots, but the large and medium plot cut was COMPLETELY uncalled for.

Now, no matter what I choose, I'm gonna be missing out on something I badly want and can't have in any way.Comment by DartVaderWell, maybe if they add the barracks and the storehouse as a permanant slots, like the mine, it could be ok... but honestly, I think don't think this nerf makes for "interesting" choices at all. I think they should go back to 3 medium and 3 large. I mean, as far as the two I mentioned goes, what kind of a military garrison- which this is- DOESN'T have a barracks for the soldiers or a storehouse for their supplies? just doesn't make sense. I mean, even if we have to give up the mine or herb garden as permanent things I'd be ok with this, personally- since those don't seem to be part and parcel with the very idea of a garrison. Oh- and the armory seems by it's very nature to be essential for a garrison as well- at least one that hopes to survive very long.Comment by CasCassCaschI just used the garrison calculator and noticed the pet hut isn't showing for the alliance.
I think its should be.
T1: 1 small 1 med 1 large
T2: 2" 2" 2"
T3: 3" 3" 3"
But i'll make due with what's given.Comment by perculiaI can't check now since things are down but I don't think the pet plot is showing up on the in-game map. It would be in the blank area at the top, to the left of the town hall. I saw the area with pet toys when I had upgraded to Level 2, but not at Level 1.Comment by 173647Personally I have nothing against small plot downsizing since when choosing 4-th my only criteria was "does it look cool". However going to 2 on medium and large kinda contradicts "Pretty large, but not large enough to have everything" now it looks more like "you can have few and regret cutting back on others". Just like with capitol changes this is a bad one.

Would be ok if we could somehow through game-play acquire those 2 "lost" plotsComment by WhildOMG at all this whining about changes before WoD even goes live. It's a good thing that they're making the garrisons about tough choices. I don't want everything given to everyone.Comment by 335450OMG at all this whining about changes before WoD even goes live. It's a good thing that they're making the garrisons about tough choices. I don't want everything given to everyone.

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