this is disgusting. whoever developed this talent tree needs to be banned from video games for being so boring. there is no point in taking a havoc dh anymore as vengeance has darkness. havoc now is about jumping about with vengeful retreat and glide, fel rush at least was a serious playstyle that helped get you closer to your target at times or reposition, what is the point of gliding for no reason and vengeful retreating for damage/fury. im so appalled, im muslim and im even considering drinking rn. thats how bad i want to escape life. there is officially no reason to bring havoc to raids, vengeance even brings chaos nova now. in fact, in m+ why bring havoc at all. they managed to even cap Eye beam to 5 targets now. no sinful brand metamorphosis for uncapped. we are going to suck for big pulls and bring nothing a vegeance can bring, in fact we will struggle to compete with vengeace for big pulls. great, our tank spec is the only thing viable for m+ now, even damage wise.blizzard, in all my years i was the last to lose faith in you, but you really messed up big time. at least sinful brand allowed you to have a playstyle similar to having a pet, where something is constantly doing damage, allowing you to focus on mechanics more, now you brought back the mash buttons braindead playstyle to all that complained that sinful brand was boring because they played demon hunter 'for fun' (aka not seriously or at a high level)you have brought the skill cap down, the purpose havoc had in raids, the chill was removed. so if we are not at a target, we deal 0 damage. well done to everyone that complained until blizzard made only the class you wanted. everyone saying "it's fun". i hope shadowlands never ends, i might quit wow.
I have some concerns regarding talents:1. They "force" you to play with "The Hunt" ability which was my least favorite... why no sinful Brand option at least?2. From a quick look it seems to me that as a havoc you need to use Fel Rush/Vengeful retreat in your rotation which also I dont like. I dont see a build/path that does no buff these abilities and makes them into the rotation..
I really hate this illusion of choice.Removes Vengeful Retreat, so later we can choose it as a talent.Great game design, blizz bravo /slowclap
dh talent tree in a nutshell: removed eyebeam always crit'ing and called it a talent, removed the 3 talent choices and made momentum the only choice, removed the snare from vengeful retreat and called it a talent, removed the 10yd range from our interrupt and called it a talent, removed the fury regeneration from consume magic and called it a talent, removed consume magic and called it a talent, removed covenant choices and made you a night fae by force as you have to take the hunt, removed imprison and called it a talent, removed a fel rush charge and called it a talent, removed haste buff from eyebeam, nerfed it by 33%, then called it a talent. next they should remove all our abilities, nerf them, then make them a talent. so easy to make a talent tree, just remove everything from baseline and make it a talent. wow
They missed the chance to just remove dh. Sad
As for "you haven't really even thought about why 'sinful brand playstyle' is boring.", there's nothing to think about. It's a single target dot you apply, which forces you into a very linear and boring "rotation", that punishes you for not sticking to it, risking losing the buff. It also relies on rng procs to keep up. It has almost no power in AoE outside of Meta, which is a 4min cd (3-3.25ish with 4set), because you will at most stick dots on 2 targets before the pack is dead. Now, you might say "so just use your normal AoE rotation in this scenario", but then you're left with no legendary and no covenant ability. Your Unity and Cov ability are useless in that scenario, and you're at a massive disadvantage compared to classes that heavily benefit from their own versions of it. Yes, they could iterate on the ability, but at the end of the day, there's an extremely high chance that it will force you into the same playstyle with same downsides yet again, or something very similar to it, with very little room to improvise and reiterate.And since you're so knowledgeable and a high level DH, please do provide me with your r.io profile, so let's see what experience you got to back you up ^^.
