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Comentario de YariniCeteri

This achievement is done entirely in P1 of the fight, and P2 will start after roughly 3 minutes so you have that long to do it. The boss will put out 3 debuffs at a time called Rune of Damnation. When this debuff expires you're knocked up into the air and you do a burst of damage to the raid. It's intended that you jump into the numerous holes around the room to blow up in there and avoid the raid damage.

For the achievement, there are 6 Progenitor orbs hanging in the air above the room. In order to collect them you need to be knocked up by the debuff and fly through the orbs. You can do multiple (up to 3) on one set of debuffs if people can get there ahead of time but the raid damage can be a little iffy this early on and you get enough runes to not have to do more than 1 per anyways, so I'd recommend just aiming for 1 orb per set of runes.

They spawn during Runes and seem to despawn between sets, but you can see them glow gold and disappear if you collect one so just keep track of which ones you collected. This is what they look like.

Here is a map of where they spawn. One is in the air above each of the world marker in this screenshot, and for orientation sake the boss starts where that big green circle I drew is. We found that standing on the borders of the hexagon that world marker is in with your back to the world marker was the most consistent way to collect them. I outlined the borders you want to stand on with red. Certain classes like DH and druid can also semi-reliably get them with Wild Charge/Glide even after jumping in the holes as well, which saves some raid damage.

Once you've got all 6 the achievement will go white and you can kill the boss.

Contact me if you need help with the achievement, always happy to help guide people!
Btag: FrostyShot#1667
Discord: Yarini#9999

Comentario de Tbzz

The Jailer - Aviación condenada
- Collect all 6 Progenitor Orbs in Phase 1. Defeat the boss.
- Orb Locations / Orb Image (by YariniCeteri). Orbs float high above the arena. Placing world markers is recommended.
- Use the knockup from Runa de condenación to reach. You get knocked upwards and backwards. Orbs are only visible while the runes are active.
- Collect at least 1 orb per set of Runa de condenación. There are 6 orbs and exactly 6 sets of runes.
- Safe method: Have all 3 players affected by runes go for the same orb every time. Group on a world marker and walk into the 3 nearby holes. Correct sides are marked white in the locations image.

Comentario de selcat

Took a lot of tries, but our group finally got it by having people step just on the edge of the hole facing away from where the orb is, jumping first, then pressing forward while in the air. You can also have multiple people jump into the same hole so you can get a second attempt on the same orb.

Also, do not spin your camera around too quickly, as it will spit you out on the opposite side.

Comentario de neareida

Just completed this achievement tonight. Raid size was 20, 4 healers. We didn't jump in holes to catch the orbs. We had a person with the bomb just stand at the edge of a hole with their back facing the world marker and let the debuff expire. It seemed much easier to collide with the orb this way. The other 2 people in that bomb set would either jump in holes to spawn pillars for LoS or would run far to try to get another orb. The damage was healable with 2 bombs going off on the platform, but 3 bombs was spicy. I recommend if you do this method to make sure you have a pillar close to the raid for Relentless Domination. Otherwise, our raid got it on the first try with this method and found it much easier after we had wiped several times trying to line it up while jumping in holes.

Comentario de Turowai

Adding to Neareida's comment, you may in fact have to use this trick near the end of phase.

During the phase, after every set of bombs, some other holes close up (randomly chosen).
Several times we ended the phase with the final orb's holes (all 3 of them) annoyingly already closed... we thought this was the end (and cursed blizz for screwing us like that...).
We did however find that you could still get them by just letting the bomb go off while you stood on the closed hole, as if you had jumped into it

Alternatively, if there was a nearby open hole, a DH could use it and doublejump+glide to still reach the orbs.

We also found it worked well to have at least 1 player in the first set of bombs attempt to get one of the orbs on the 'last' set. We all went clockwise throughout, and had this other member go to the first anti-clockwise one... in an attempt to get them while all holes open.
Don't overdo this though... it became quickly confusing and overwhelming trying to get more than 1 orb every time... you have plenty of time, play it safe.

Also, Hunter disengage can be helpful if you feel you're not quite high enough, or at the wrong angle (you want to jump into the holes directly straight head on, with your back facing the middle of each marked area (where the orbs are)

Comentario de pokakap

This achievement takes place during phase 1.

During phase 1, when a player has Runa de condenación you can see six Orbe de progenitor high in the air. A player must use the knock up from the rune to send themselves through the Orbe de progenitorto collect it. All players need to do to collect a Orbe de progenitor is fly through it.

You get 6 sets of Runa de condenación so as long as you get at least one per Runa de condenación, you will be ok. You must also bring up at least one pillar (by going into a hole) in order to prevent mind control from Dominación implacable. So at least 1 pillar per group of two Runa de condenación needs to be used to bring up a pillar.

You go up and backwards when the Runa de condenación expires, so it's best to position yourself at the edge of a hole aligned with the a

Video guide: https://youtu.be/x5tuKz75OCI

Comentario de violintides

The best way to do this achievement is to have one person just stand on the edge with their back to the world marker that marks where the orb is, and without jumping into the hole, you'll just get knocked back into the ball when you get thrown up at the perfect angle!

Here's a link to the video of us killing it to show you how we did it! :) Hope this helps!
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1639389064

Comentario de Darklyss

For those jealous people, the answer to "Can only two people do it?" is YES. I just did it with my partner after aproximately 10 tries. You gotta be very precise, but its totally possible. Hell yeah.

Comentario de Clypse

This achievement is, in fact, soloable *with Morgan Freeman's voice*
I was able to do it with a 477 BM Hunter solo.
Pet was tanking boss all the time.

There is 6 Runa de condenación casts until P2 starts (unless you DPS him too fast).
The orbs spawns over a triangle location in the middle of each side of the hexagon.
If you position yourself with your camera facing top-down, you will see the orb over your head during the Rune.

Solo, there is no room for mistake grabbing the orbs, but it's very easy not to miss them.
Position yourself on the tip of the triangle that is facing the edge of the platform.
I was facing my camera top-down (I don't know if that changes anything).
I could see about a 1/3 of my toon overshoot from the orb.
That way, I was grabbing the orb 100% of the time.

I suggest starting with the orbs farther away from the boss.
After the 3rd orb, you get pulled to boss for Opresión
If you get pulled through the Hearth in the middle, you will die.

After each 2 Runa de condenación, he will cast Dominación implacable.
Be sure to hide behind the pillars or you will get charmed.

When the achievement turns white, burst the boss.
Watch out for Runa de compulsión, but I was able to kill him without him casting it.

Hope it helps!

Comentario de LaffiBoozegnome

Stupid achievement. I tried solo, boss despawns, I try with another person, boss despawns. He doesn't even do the pillars properly.

Comentario de GRAVIORA

I was able to do this solo in patch 11.0 on my hunter and created a video you can watch showing how I did it.

https://youtu.be/ZjEasAu1GFY

The point of the achievement is to collect 6 progenitor orbs (entirely in phase 1) from around the room when you get launched up in the air from rune of damnation. You simply need to get your positioning right and it is incredibly easy to do. essentially within the 6 room segments on the outer part you will stand in between 3 holes and you can position yourself on the line on the ground next to the hole to get launched into the orb every time. Once you collect all 6 orbs you can nuke down Zoval and send him back to the shadowlands.

Comentario de jamesa2552

This isnt impossible to solo but oh boy is it a pain.

You need to have pillars up to avoid Relentless Domination otherwise the boss will despawn if he hits you with it, but, sometimes you jump over the orbs and miss them, or you get randomly teleported back to the ground etc. You will only get exactly 6 bombs during phase 1, if you miss one you will have to start again

Comentario de Katarzynah

Tried to do this with friends - first as three "non-gliding" character (Mage, Druid and Hunter).

The first set of bombs, almost align with Damnation (the mind-control). So you have to make sure that you LOS the first spell.
We tried 5-6 times with non-gliding character, and decided that our Mage swapped for Demon Hunter. VERY EASY - as gliding characters (Demon Hunters or Dracthyr) can simply grab the balls in the air.
Did it first try with Gliding Character.

Comentario de takwow0

Solo'd as Sub Rogue 11.1

Boss seems to always spawn pillars by default on the opposite side of room so you have to jump into the pylon hole just before it explodes, launching yourself up into the air, collect the orb and spawning the pillar.
Then you can LoS the mind control, rinse and repeat x6 at each orb spawn location.

Fairly easy once you get the hang of it.

Screenshot indicating positioning: https://imgur.com/a/GvDFkqj
Orange marker shows where orb will spawn, character is positioned on the edge of the pylon hole where I would jump to spawn the pylon and simultaneously collect the orb.

Edit: on a side note, I found that if you list a group in the Premade Groups you are able to drop raid markers so you can keep track of where everything is.

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Derrota al Carcelero después de recolectar 6 orbes de progenitor en el Sepulcro de los Primeros en dificultad normal o superior.

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	6 orbes de progenitor recogidos (1)

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Sepulcher of the First Ones

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