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Comment by randomplayer

This proc + Chain Lightning = AoE madness!

Comment by Benegesserit

The proc seems weak. Only a 15% chance and the dot takes 10 second to complete its duration. A lot of trash won't even last that long. They really should have made this a direct damage AoE like the trinket from the same raid.

haha i love all the rage votes for people who now have looter's remorse because this weapon is garbage. l2 Lightning Rod.

Comment by 183742

As a boomkin I am absolutely loving this. When I won it I was a bit shocked and nearly felt bad as I'm not terribly far from finishing my legendary staff, but I kept it to see how I'd like it. I have had it proc every single time I use shrooms, hurricane or starfall. It makes up a fair amount of my dps on aoe. I like having a macro to switch out to it and my offhand for things like the aoe phase on Yor'sahj.

Comment by Salazans

It's unaffected by Spell Power and it can Crit.

Edit: Why downvote the truth? If you think I'm wrong come on and point it out.

Comment by Blackspirit

The poison proc from this is affected by Solar Eclipse, you can even see the tooltip on the weapon change to reflect it.

Comment by 912859

**Important Update!**
After the December 13th, 2011 maintenance, it's become exclusive for Druid, Mage, Priest, Shaman, Warlock

Some items were recently reclassified. This is one such item, so you might find yourself in possession of one of these items and are no longer able to use it. If you looted an item from Looking for Raid which replaced another and you need Game Master assistance to recover your old item, please place a petition with the new item name, that you can no longer use it - and the old item name you need restored.

More information, and a full list of the affected items, see the Customer Support post.

As a part of the on-going evaluation of Looking For Raid and the loot system, we have recently implemented a change to the Looking For Raid Need Plus system. Weapons, trinkets, rings, neck pieces, shields, offhand items, and the Robe of Glowing Stone are now class-restricted to their intended users. With the speed at which a Raid Finder group moves through a zone, we’ve found that it makes it challenging for players to evaluate loot decisions – by class restricting these items, we hope that the natural behavior will have a more positive set of results for everyone involved. This change will not apply to normal or heroic raid or dungeon loot rules.

Source: Nethaera - Blizzard Entertainment's Community Manager

Comment by Mahoro

On my mage, under the least ideal condition (single target), the proc accounted for roughly 2% of my total damage done over the course of 6 minute against training dummy. That's simply 2% DPS increase, which equates to about 520 DPS. The problem is that this doesn't scale very well with gear (only with crit).

Comment by Tengir

Very usefull when farming old dungeons for whatever reason.. (Cloth etc.)

Also the damage Molten Armor ( Molten Armor) deals to attackers when hit, apparently counts as a spellcast and causes Blast of Corruption (the effect of the dagger) to proc.

Comment by xayse

have it on my elemental shaman. tested it on dummy units, have some calculations here.
uptime of DoT is about 33%, can be critical. made about 2.5% damage, that gave me profit of ~550 dps, not sure if that is better than any of secondary stats.
When spamming chain lightning on 4 dummy units, DoT made 5.1% of overall damage, that was actually about 1685 dps, that is slightly better, though DS is not crowded by AoE fights, so profit of this proc is not awesome

Comment by nekrot

Opinions on this vs. caster dagger. Is it worth losing the haste/crit/hit?

Comment by pthor1234

The proc from this weapon can proc Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor. This can also BE procced by Molten Armor.

Comment by 170256

Does this scale with the warlock felhunter shadowbite and increase its dmg?

Comment by Mahoro

Apparently Polymorph can trigger the effect, making it a quite dangerous weapon when you need to CC... I'd imagine Fear and other similar mechanics work the same.

Comment by 842101

Scales down on resilience targets, did some testing with a warrior in 4.3k resi kit:

Dummy: 1543 dmg / 2 sec. 7715 dmg total.
Resi target: 850 dmg / 2 sec. 4250 dmg total.

As a pvp warlock, I see this weapon useful for comps like Shadowplay. Especially because warlocks are mostly not the best target in 3v3, they will probably go for your healer. You can do with less resilience. RLS/MLS might be a pain since smart players will use the proc to break blind/polymorph, although its very tricky to time well.

Since it is a weapon you can always get T1/T2 pvp weapon, when your opponents run TSG or and cleave combo, you can switch into more resilience on demand in the arena.

Comment by Skizzer

Does the Proc scale with Solar Eclipse from Moonkins?

Comment by 327600

Also in my damage set are the trinkets 397 Cunning of the Cruel and 384 Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor

Test 1 on a clustered group of 3 Raider's Training Dummies - approx 10mil dmg over 7.7 mins / 21.7k DPS
Weapon used - 397 Scalpel of Unrelenting Agony (from my heal set)

mind flay 33.1%
shadowbolt volley (cunning trinket) 16% / 48 count
vampiric touch 15.6%
mind blast 11.5%
shadow word: pain 9.4%
devouring plague 8.5%
lightning bolt (capacitor trinket) 3.1% / 40 count
improved devouring plague 2.5%

Test 2 a clustered group of 3 Raider's Training Dummies - approx 10mil dmg over 7.6 mins / 22.5k DPS
Weapon used - 390 Raid Finder Rathrak, the Poisonous Mind / each proc of the dagger ticks 5 times over 10 seconds

mind flay 29.3%
vampiric touch 15.6%
shadowbolt volley (cunning trinket) 15.2% / 48 count
mind blast 12%
shadow word: pain 8.8%
devouring plague 7.7%
blast of corruption (rathrak dagger) 5.5% / 270 count (read 270 ticks of the DoT - 54 procs)
lightning bolt (capicitor trinket) 3.3% / 38 count
improved devouring plague 2.4%

Finally a 3rd test just for kicks on a stand-along Training Dummy
For this I just reapplied my DoTs over a period of 5 mins to see how often all of my items procced

vampiric touch 33%
shadow word: pain 20.4%
devouring plague 17.5%
shadowbolt volley 14.1% / 10 count
lightning bolt 6.5% / 15 count
improved devouring plague 4.6%
blast of courruption 2.7% / 30 count (read 30 ticks - 6 procs)

Comment by redandgray

Blast of Corruption is the actual proc.

Comment by 792908

I am having the proc cause unintentional side effects soon after obtaining it. For example, the poison gets applied to a cc'd target which then breaks the cc or worse pulls an additional pack. In Magisters Terrace near the entrance fighting the first large packs and the proc is being applied to the group of bosses you face before Kael'thas on the floor below. It's out of control.

Comment by 883276

I have just looted this from LFR, can anyone suggest the Off-Hand item I would/could use to pair with it. I am an Arcane Mage if this helps... Thanks

Comment by 942707

@ bigzee2uk i would suggest the Orb of the First Satyr for your offhand as it is a very overpowered item stats wise, failing that possibly the Demonic Skull *Reforge the spirit into Haste*

Comment by BrightBrown

I HAD been looking at this (and the Orb of the First Satyrs from Peroth'arn, which I don't have), but this Ti'tahk, the Steps of Time dropped for me first. Think I'll stick with the staff because in raids, the big Haste proc is more useful I think.

Comment by 966604

For anyone looking for a transmog set built around this, I thought I'd share the combination I came up with. I liked the palate they used for Heaven in D3, so built on the blue-green and brown-gold theme of the dagger over a pure white robe.

Head: Crown of the Ogre King
Shoulders: Aurora Mantle
Chest: Mooncloth Robe
Bracers: Runed Spell-Cuffs
Gloves: Heavy Linen Gloves
Belt: Girdle of Nobility
Shoes: Curate's Boots
Weapon: Rathrak, the Poisonous Mind
Off-hand: Fetish of the Primal Gods

Here's the full set.

If you can give your toon either dark brown or bright blue hair, it'll round out the look quite nicely :D. Hope you enjoy!

Comment by 986938

any increased magic damage, damage or nature damage increases the proc's damage (obv), as stated by others, doesnt scale with anything else (sp, crit, haste etc etc)
a quick list of effects that increase nature damage i could come up with is: (i wont add spells/effects that increase all ur spell/ or damage like Owlkin Frenzy Shadow Power Mana Adept
elemental shamans: Elemental Mastery Elemental Precision
balance druid: Moonfury Balance of Power Moonkin Form Eclipse (Solar)

Comment by Cianxo

In the comments for normal version of Rathrak, they say ICD is 15 seconds with 15% chance to proc per spellcast - dots do not proc it.

Can crit, but is not benefitting from spellpower nor haste.

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Rathrak, the Poisonous Mind

Twilight
Item Level 390
Binds when picked up

Main Hand	Dagger

647 - 1,203 Damage	Speed 1.50

(616.67 damage per second)
+293 Stamina
+195 Intellect
+2,607 Spell Power
Durability 80 / 80

Requires Level 85
Equip: Your harmful spellcasts have a chance to poison all enemies near your target for 7716 nature damage over 10 sec. (Proc chance: 15%, 17s cooldown)

Sell Price: 36 2 11

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