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Commentaire de BlizzardCS

MISE A JOUR 28/10/2014: Nous n’avons reçu aucun nouveau signalement à ce sujet, il semblerait donc que le problème soit complètement résolu. Merci à tous pour votre patience et votre compréhension. :)

MISE A JOUR 14/10/2014 : Ce souci devrait être maintenant corrigé. Si vous rencontrez toujours des problèmes à ce sujet, merci de nous les signaler afin que nous puissions les analyser plus en détails.

~~Si vous ne voyez pas l’animation de ce sort en spécialisation Ombre, pas de panique ! Il s’agit bien d’un problème identifié et en cours d’analyse par nos équipes.~~

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Commentaire de Omnicrom

One of the new Level 90 Priest Talents as of Beta Build 15508

The tooltip says it does "Divine Damage", since the schools are listed as Holy and Arcane it may be that Divine Damage is a mix of the two like Shadowfrost or Frostfire damage.

As for the spell itself it's certainly interesting. All of the level 90 Priest Talents are now AoE Heal/Damage and Divine Star seems to be the middle of the road in getting good functionality. Halo is focused on the user and Cascade seems to work best when spread out but Divine Star seems to be about getting a good straight line of fire so it will probably be ideal in organized groups.

Commentaire de KeleturShask

Looks like Shadow gets its own version of the spell, and it's Etoile divine.

Commentaire de Farmbuyer

The "Divine" school of magic is Holy + Arcane. If the target is immune or resistant to one of those, the other one will be applied; whichever does more damage.

Similarly for shadowpriests, "Spellshadow" is Shadow + Arcane, and works around the prohibition of casting holy magic while in shadowform.

Blizzard started doing these combos way way back, including for NPCs (e.g., lots of monsters in the original Naxx40 would do Plague damage (Nature + Shadow), specifically for players who were trying to gimp the fights by wearing lots of resistance gear). The entire list of combinations of schools of magic is here, for those of you who haven't spent the last few years staring at combat logs. :-)

Commentaire de 175315

"Returns to you" means that it then travels to you, or that it returns to the destination where it was cast?

Commentaire de Niveaulos

UPDATED! (The original post took me too long to do and wasn't satisfying because I simply used 15'000 spell power, so I thought I'd do it this time with some graphs.. I won't post them as a picture in here but I'll give you the links to fooplot.com.. :)

For those who don't know exactly how to read a graph: There are 2 axes:
horizontal: The x-axis which represents the amount of spell power
vertical: The y-axis which represents the amount of healing/damage done per "x" spell power given

So in the following example you would do 20'000 healing/damage with 10'000 spell power (or 10'000 healing/damage with 5'000 spell power).

http://fooplot.com/plot/olwivoysr5

The question for me was, which one of the three lvl90-Talents to use as a Disc-Priest in PvP. My Problem as Disc is mostly the lack of Mana during a battle and of course, doing damage and healing enough as well. So my factors are:

Mana
Healing
Damage
Cooldown

Note: The following graphs are colored. Unfortunately I couldn't find a way to describe them directly on fooplot (please let me know if there's a way)

Red: Etoile divine - Damage
Purple: Etoile divine - Healing
Blue: Halo - Damage
Light blue: Halo - Healing
Green: Escalade - Damage & Healing

Here's a little overview of the three different spells:

The average of each spell:
http://fooplot.com/plot/897yv8kdxz

Now let's put them down on the same level again. The mana first:

Adjusted to 4.5% base mana (-> Divine Star):
http://fooplot.com/plot/ongj2jdd7i

Note: You've got to zoom in a little because now they all get closer to each other.

And last but not least - The cooldown:

Adjusted to 15 seconds cooldown (->Divine Star):
http://fooplot.com/plot/kfguw11qq9

Now a few other aspects:
Etoile divine: Useful in arena to detect stealth enemies, like rogues or druids. You can do it either at the beginning of the fight or when they use vanish or shadowmeld. Also, the spell is "casted twice" which means you have doubled luck chance of gaining a procc. You get a lot of heal during a "Zerg" or in a 10/25 raid whilst the group is on one spot or in a line. But in dungeons you have to take care so you don't pull unnecessary adds. The spell is casted in the direction you're looking, so you're quick enough to just spin with your mouse. And of course: it does the most DPS / HPS

Escalade: This is great for healing a dungeon, because you will heal up to 15 targets at once, almost independent where the members are standing. You won't pull any adds because the spell doesn't heal and damage at the same time. But using this on an enemy can pull the whole room because it bounces to "idle" NPCs. Of course, it can be a disadvantage in PvP, because it doesn't hit a target more than once, and wont heal or do damage at the same time.

Halo: Unfortunately they've nerfed this spell so you're no longer able to hit stealthed enemies. The advantage here is the fact that you can use it for bursting down your enemy, or save your ass in trouble (but remember: it won't heal you for the highest amount, because it reaches it's best effect at 25 yards. And you have to position yourself good, to get the best out of this spell). Using this spell in a Dungeonroom full of trash is a suicide commando!
Halo could do alot more/less when I would've calculated with the minimum and maximum of healing/damage instead of taking the average amount. If I have some free time I'm gonna add some graphics (even though I'm "scared" the graphics get flooded)

After these few graphs and personal opinions we can all see, that Divine Star became a major buff with patch 5.2, because I didn't calculate the "fact" (or 90% chance - whatever you want to call it) that Divine Star hits the target twice!

If you wonder: I (still) use Divine Star

Please correct me if I did something somewhere wrong and please tell me whether you do understand the graphs. Otherwise I'll search for some time to post some of the tables I did with Patch 5.0.5 :)

Hope my English isn't too bad, I'm Swiss. Swiss Chocolate! :D

Commentaire de 1091386

If it helps any, It's easier to see your allies if you turn on "show friendly name plates" ("Shift V" if you hadn't switch it on your keybindings) and position yourself in a path to get the most healing out of this talent.

Commentaire de 319936

Etoile divine now deals 40% more damage and 133% more healing, and its radius has been reduced by 33%.

(Note: All the following calculations are based on 15500 sp)
so, if we use damage/cd to calculate the damage per time (dps/hps):

Etoile divine 16,814/15=1,120.9; 1,120.9*1.4=1,569.3(Damage) 1,120.9*2.33=2,611.7(Heal)
Escalade 25,220.5/25=1,008.8
Halo 50,375/40=1,259.4(Damage) 84,099/40=2,102.5(Heal)

if we use mana/cd to calculate the mana per time (mps):

Etoile divine 4.5/15=0.3
Escalade 9.0/25=0.36
Halo 13.5/40=0.3375

if we use damage/mana to calculate the mana efficiency (dpm/hpm):

Etoile divine 16,814/4.5=3,736.4; 3,736.4*1.4=5,231.0(Damage) 3,736.4*2.33=8,705.8(Heal)
Escalade 25,220.5/9.0=2,802.3
Halo 50,375/13.5=3,731.5(Damage) 84,099/13.5=6,229.6(Heal)

also we should notice, especially for dpsers, more cast cost more GCD, if consider this, Halo is easy winner on dps.
the thing really matter is, for Etoile divine, it's the hardest to get the best effect. and Escalade is the easiest one to get the best effect.
so, if counting to IDEAL situation, Etoile divine is actually the winner, Escalade is the looser.

@Niveaulos (thx for discussing), ~~lyom~~ ~~(shame you for dirty words)~~:
all the numbers are correct, but the way is wrong. damage/cd is the result for damage per time (dps/hps). mana/cd is the result for mana per time (mps), but if what we want is mana efficiency (dpm/hpm), is just damage/mana. the result of Niveaulos is actually dps/mana, we can clearly see what is wrong. the "mana" is the mana of a single cast, but the fact is, shorter cd spell cast more times than longer cd spell. so, we should replace the "mana" with "mana/cd". so, the math turn to be (damage/cd)/(mana/cd), ok, that's just damage/mana. so, the advantage of the short cd spells (Etoile divine) the result shown is not true.

Commentaire de BlizzardCS

UPDATE 28/10/2014: We didn't get any further report, so it seems like the issue is indeed totally fixed. Thanks all for your patience and understanding while we were working on it.

UPDATE 14/10/2014: This issue should be fixed by now. Please, if you are still experiencing this issue let us know so we can look into it. :)

~~If you don’t see the animation of this spell while in Shadow spec, do not panic! This is a known issue and we are already investigating it. Sorry for the inconvenience, we’ll keep you updated.~~

Commentaire de CircleofHealing

Just swapped to this spell on my talent tree.

Amazing spell in PvP zergs in AV and Isle of Conquest. Screen just lights up with green numbers.

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Etoile divine

Etoile divine	Niveau 90

Talent

4.5% de la mana de base

Instantanée	15 s de recharge

Vous tirez devant vous une Etoile divine qui parcourt 24 mètres en infligeant 4717 points de dégâts du Divin à tous les ennemis et rendant 1 points de vie à toutes les cibles alliées à moins de 4 mètres de sa trajectoire.

Après avoir atteint sa destination, elle revient à vous, toujours en infligeant des dégâts et prodiguant des soins à toutes les cibles sur son chemin.

Buff

Etoile divine

Exécute une vérification de la cible.
15 secondes restantes

Détails sur le sort

Durée

15 secondes

École

Sacré, Arcane

Mécanique

n/d

Type de dissipation

n/d

Catégorie GCD

Standard

Coût

4.5% de la mana de base

Portée

0 mètres (Soi-même)

Incantation

Instantanée

Recharge

15 secondes

GCD

1.5 secondes

Effet #1

Apply Aura: [Periodically trigger spell]
Intervalle : 250 millisecondes
Multiplicateur JcJ : 1

	Etoile divine

Effet #2

Trigger Spell

	Etoile divine

Marqueurs

Pas d'icône d'aura
Commence les tics à l'application de l'aura
Autoriser dans l'état banni

Etoile divine

Buff

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