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Kommentar von MarcusGaius

as far as i've noticed, dmg transfered is deducted of ammount of dmg you would recieve if attack was done on you, thus leaving remaining dmg to target(if it has less armor than you) less than plain "-dmg taken"

Kommentar von amiko

first of all, im not a pala player, nor i have experiences with them, but, im SURE the person who you put this blessing on will be able to right click it at the buff menu(next to the minimap@default blizzard ui)wich probably will remove the debuff on your self asswel, so put it on your mate, in pvp or pve(maiden and stuff), let it tick 1 time, cc goes away, and put another blessing on, im not sure if this will work, if any1 tried it plz reply

Amiko

Kommentar von 194786

Thank you Blizzard for making this seal useless

12 sec duration and 2 min cd is just stupid in compare to 30sed dur and 30 sec cd. All its really used for is pvp to break sheep and seduction witch is pretty vital in 2v2 and 3v3 ,this now comes pretty impossible. Sure it can be used in pve but what paladin is gonna remove the blessing of light to put this on the tank.

Ever sins TBC when arenas where implemented paladins have had nothing but nerfs, sure they had a buff in the retri tree but that was just because they %^&*ed it up in the first place.

This just comes to shows how much blizzard hates paladins and gives in to other ppl whining about them.

Its simple ppl don't like paladins because of bubble... ppl whine... blizzard is more likely to make changes to try and even things out what usually turns into a nerf for persons who know how to play.

Kommentar von 168146

this is an excelent spell for PVP.especially arenas. unfortunately we must wait and see if the damage the paladin takes is in turn mitigated by armor. if not... then casting it on a cloth class might bring u more trouble than u bargained for :)

Kommentar von rodmin

Is it true that you still take damage from this spell while under the effects of Divine Shield?

Kommentar von 52750

A 12 secs duration with a 2 mins cd, making us completely vulnerable to cc =(

Is this pvp nerf an intended one? hopefully they'll fix this before 11/13 =(

Kommentar von 31182

For some fights, particularly those with no environmental damage such as Patchwerk, Retribution paladins may find this extremely useful for getting more mana back from Spiritual Attunement to prevent you from running on fumes all the time.

On Patchwerk, don't put it on a hateful tank. Your healers may not appreciate that as much.

Kommentar von kalujin

Does anyone know if this works on Kel'Thuzad when he does his Frost Blast?

Kommentar von 282841

On the 3.1.0 PTR, this is a 'new' sacrifice' spell:

New Talent: Divine Sacrifice: Causes all party/raid members affected by one of the paladin’s auras to transfer 30% of all damage taken to the paladin (maximum of 150% of the paladin’s max health). Lasts 10 sec. 2 min cooldown.

Kommentar von 146438

my guilds holy paladin uses this in conjunction with bubble on the third plasma blast on mimiron during phase one after our warrior tank runs out of cooldowns in order to keep him alive

Kommentar von 300175

I find the tooltip a bit misleading... How does this work?

The damage done to the caster is transfered to a party/raid member under effect of this spell.
The damage done to the party/raid member under this effect is transfered to the caster.

Places a Hand on the party or raid member, transfering 30% damage taken to the caster. Lasts 12 sec or until the caster has transfered 100% of their maximum health. Players may only have one Hand on them per Paladin at any one time.

You can read it as:

Transfering 30% damage taken to the caster (-> to party/raid member)
Transfering 30% damage taken -> to the caster

Wich one is it? 1 or 2?

Kommentar von 732127

If used while paladin is in bubble, can you still mitigate your friend's 30%dmg received?

Kommentar von 476166

Be very wary of using this ability during heavy AoEs. If you're being hit hard, an extra 30% damage won't help the situation.

If there are ANY non-tanking Paladins in your group, your raid should have them use this combined with Divine Shield/Divine Protection, as an extra defensive cooldown for your tank. It's extremely invaluable in any situation, and saves the tank from having to use one of their own cooldowns. Protection Pallies can use this on an off-tank or main-tank.

Holy Paladins can also use this combined with Divine Plea -- the 30% damage offset will provide you with room to fully take advantage of DP's mana restoration, without having to worry about the heal reduction debuff.

Kommentar von Sephinel

This can also be used to free yourself from CC in PvP. Works best on sap/repentance/sheep as those break instantly when you take damage. Timing it is not easy, but it's extremely useful.

Kommentar von 829526

HOLY PALADINS HAVE TO LEARN TO USE THIS.

It is your main tank cool down yet i hardly see any holy paladins using it

As is almost constantly over healing you anyways, as well as if your specced into it. Transfering 30% of the damage to you could be thought of simply reducing damage taking on the tank by 30%.

Although it generally shouldn't be used in AoE situations as it doesn't reduce the damage the raid will take overall just spreads it out. Most tank deaths are not from too much damage taken, but too big of a unexpected burst taken that overwhelm the healers, this will alleviate that, if you do become nervous that you may die from it, or you do not think protector of the innocent will keep up with the damage, and you do not have mana to spare to heal the difference, it is perfectly possible to use divine protection, or divine shield at the same time as it,

Kommentar von 404185

When a player is the target of Hand of Sacrifice, and is also using a damage reducing cooldown of their own, what order are the two applied in?

Suppose the tank gets hit for 100,000 damage.

Suppose a paladin has places HoS on them and suppose the tank is also using a personal 50% damage reduction cooldown. The tank is going to take 35,000 damage in either case (50% of 70% of 100,000 or 70% of 50% of 100,000), but...

Will the paladin take 30,000 damage (meaning HoS went first, absorbed 30% of the full 100,000) or 15,000 (meaning the damage was reduced 50% before HoS was applied)?

Kommentar von Budlaorf

As of patch 5.2, this spell also removes all harmful magic effects from the target for ret only via Absolve, giving ret a bit more viability and another great reason to use this spell in pvp.

Updated for the new build. Glyph of Hand of Sacrifice will be added in 5.4. This glyph will be very useful, esp. in raids.

Kommentar von 985171

The Glyph of Hand of Sacrifice, added in patch 5.4, makes this ability a 30% damage reduction on the target, full stop. If you are proficient at casting HoS with good timing, the glyph makes it into a surprisingly powerful damage reduction spell, instead of merely a damage diffusion spell.

However, in the hands of a beginner this glyph will do nothing. Observe the fight, and look for the time when a single ally's survival is difficult and useful!

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm assuming that this spell transferrs damage FROM the target TO you. So you can protect mages and healers by taking damage for them. Am I right?

Well, I just turned 46, so I better see my trainer and find out. (New Holy Light too! Sweet! :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I think it could be very helpful..as long as you dont just suck up the damage...you can heal your self. It seems like it would be bad, but in fact its saved us a couple times now. so I like it :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

This also might be a very good spell when combined with Blessing of Sanctuary (Higher the level the more damage negated) cast on yourself.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Cuz if it was like 30yds then ud have to be pretty damn close to the person to suck up the dmg, and u could wander out of range too. I guess its good for casting on priests who accidentally got too much aggro on them while warrior tries to take it off.

Kommentar von Thottbot

It's helpful both in PvE and PvP, here are a few examples:
- In PvE even you you don't manage to take any agro, you can be a tank helper by casting this spell on the tank and healing both him and you.

- In battlegrounds, such as Warsong Gulch, cast this on the flag wearer to take some of the damage he takes from melee class, and try to stun, slow down, or kill the casters attacking the flag wearer. This spell isn't very efficient against casters but it can absorb A LOT of damage rogues cause, and usually warriors too.

- Not much mana left and you have a cooldown on Blessing of Protection while a friend's dying? Cast this spell on him to help him survive and then when you have enough mana heal him (and/or yourself).

Kommentar von Thottbot

if there are 2 pallys one a protect pally who uses blessing of sanctuary on both pallys reducing dmg on both of them by 14 and then the other pally uses blessing of sacrifice on the protect pally

soooo...

the protect pally is dealt 50 dmg
-14 dmg from bless O' Sanc'
36 dmg transfers to other pally

other pally is dealt 36 dmg
-14 dmg
22 dmg - what the other pally takes

so 50 dmg from one guy turns to 22 dmg to the other and no dmg to the first?

or does it work like that?

Kommentar von Thottbot

BoS helps A TON when fighting the third boss in Karazhan. During the fight she does an AoE repentance that incapacitates everyone in the raid for 10 seconds. Having BoS on the MT helps break the repentance and lets the paladin continue healing as normal.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Anyone know if the damage transferred interrupts spell casting?

Kommentar von Thottbot

can the damage of this proc reckoning?

Kommentar von Thottbot

as soon as i get my pally to level 46, when he learns this i am considering switching him to holy spec, or should he stay prot then switch holy in outlands?

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Hand der Aufopferung

Hand der Aufopferung

7% von Grundmana	40 Meter Reichweite

Sofort	2 min Abklingzeit

Legt eine Hand auf ein Gruppen- oder Schlachtzugsmitglied, [Glyphe 'Hand der Aufopferung': die den erlittenen Schaden um 30% verringert / 30% des erlittenen Schadens auf den Paladin überträgt] [Ablass: und alle schädlichen magischen Effekte vom Ziel entfernt]. Hält 12 Sek. lang an oder bis der Paladin 100% seiner maximalen Gesundheit übertragen hat. Spielercharaktere können immer nur eine Hand pro Paladin zurzeit auf sich liegen haben.

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Hand der Aufopferung	Magie

[30% des erlittenen Schadens werden auf den Paladin übertragen.][Erlittener Schaden um 30% verringert.]
Noch 12 sekunden

Zauberdetails

Dauer

12 sekunden

Magieart

Heilig

Mechanik

n/a

Bannart

Magie

GCD-Kategorie

Normal

Kosten

7% von Grundmana

Reichweite

40 Meter (Lang)

Zauberzeit

Sofort

Abklingzeit

2 Minuten

GCD

1.5 sekunden

Aura Proc-Chance

100%

Effekt #1

Apply Aura: [Split Damage %] (Arkan, Feuer, Frost, Heilig, Natur, Physisch, Schatten)
Wert: 30%
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

Effekt #2

Dummy
Wert: 100
PVP-Multiplikator: 1
Serverseitiges Skript

Effekt #3

Dispel (Magie)
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

Effekt #4

Apply Aura: [Mod % Damage Taken] (Arkan, Feuer, Frost, Heilig, Natur, Physisch, Schatten)
Wert: -30%
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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Kann nicht verwendet werden, während Ihr gestaltverwandelt seid
Waffe nicht wegstecken
Kein Auto-Zaubern (AI)
Zauberer auslassen
Gefährtimmunitätenkategorie
Aura zeigt auf Clienten
Abklingzeit bei Kampfende zurücksetzen

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