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Kommentar von perculia

Updated list as of 8/27 of all the affected abilities. A lot of them have changed since first datamined in June, will keep updating with changes.

Feral Druid: Baumrinde, Berserker, Spurt, Anstachelndes Gebrüll, Überlebensinstinkte, Tigerfuror
Beast Mastery Hunter: Zorn des Wildtiers, Camouflage, Rückzug, Totstellen, Schnellfeuer, Stampede
Marksman Hunter: Camouflage, Rückzug, Totstellen, Schnellfeuer, Unterdrückender Schuss, Stampede
Survival Hunter: Schwarzer Pfeil, Camouflage, Rückzug, Totstellen, Schnellfeuer, Stampede
Windwalker Monk: Belebendes Gebräu, Furorfäuste, Fliegender Schlangentritt, Stärkendes Gebräu, Transzendenz: Transfer, Zenmeditation
Enhancement Shaman: Totem des Feuerelementars, Wildgeist, Aszendenz, Gunst des Geistwandlers, Schamanistische Wut, Totem des Erdelementars
Assassination Rogue: Mantel der Schatten, Entrinnen, Schattenklingen, Sprinten, Verschwinden, Vendetta
Combat Rogue: Adrenalinrausch, Mantel der Schatten, Entrinnen, Mordlust, Schattenklingen, Sprinten
Subtlety Rogue: Mantel der Schatten, Entrinnen, Schattenklingen, Schattentanz, Sprinten, Verschwinden

Kommentar von qbari

Item proc is called Dextrous.

It is still listed under uncategorized spells by Sep 18 2013.

Kommentar von 998499

For hunters with this (the LFR version) with 2 upgrades, it will have the following affects on your CD's.
All specs:
Stampede goes down to a 3.76 minute CD, down from 5 minutes
Disengage ( with crouching tiger hidden chimera) is a 7.52 sec CD down from 10. Without CTHC it is a 15 sec CD down from 20
Camoflauge- has a 45.1 sec CD, down from 1 minute
Rapid Fire - has a 2.26 minute CD, down from 3 minutes
Feign Death - 22.6 sec CD. down from 30 seconds

Survival:
Black arrow - has a 18 sec CD, down from 24

Marksmanship:
Silencing Shot: 18 sec CD, down from 24
Beast Mastery:
Bestial Wrath: 45.1 sec CD, down from 1 minute

Kommentar von 771086

I can only assume there's some kind of weird tech math I know nothing about at play here like how Mannoroth's Fury increasing aoe size by 500% makes it like 1.25 times as big instead of 5 times. But can somebody please explain how 33%(upgraded) increased recovery rate is only 25% shorter cd time instead of 33%?

Kommentar von mudplayerx

This trinket is fatter than my wife's mom!

Kommentar von bergurhallgrims

Enhancement Shamans

Ability Min. LFR LFR Upgr.
Fire Elemental 5 3.82 3.76
Glyphed FE 2.5 1.91 1.88
Feral Spirit 2 1.53 1.50
Ascendance 3 2.29 2.26
Spiritw. Grace 2 1.53 1.50
Shamanistic Rage 1 0.76 0.75

Kommentar von SoooWhoCares

*eye twitches* Silencing Shot ? SILENCING SHOT ? Oh sure: BM-Hunters get Zorn des Wildtiers and SV-Hunters get Schwarzer Pfeil on a lower cooldown timer so MM-Hunters don't get that bonus for Schimärenschuss. That's totally ok... not !

"...of your six major abilities" my ASS !
-Chimera Shot is the shot you get by chosing that spec
-Chimera Shot is one of the MM-Hunter's most powerful shots
-Chimera Shot is part of the MM's rotation
...but not one of the "six major abilities" ? Just &*!@ you, Blizzard. #$%^ you.

Shame Readiness was removed. I'm quite sure this item was designed before that decision was made.
Every Hunter get's Stampede, Rapid Fire, Feign Death, Disengage and Camouflage on a lower cooldown but then also one DPS relevant cooldown - except for MM (insert "HAHA !" here). Sucks. Just sucks. !@#$ing Silencing Shot.

Kommentar von Rokozan

I have tested this trinket in PvP zones and got strange results.

First of all CD reduction works like as follows:
a: Duration of skill's cooldown (e.g. 60 seconds for Shadow Dance)
x: Recovery rate percentage (24 for 501 item level)
b: Reduced duration of skill's cooldown

Formule is: b = a/1,x

As the supposed duration of Shadow Dance's CD with this trinket in PvP Zones should be 60/1,24 = 48,4 seconds, the duration of Shadow Dance is 56,1 seconds (a recovery rate about 7%) when I equip this trinket in battlegrounds.

I renewed my Cache, WTF and Addons folders but nothing changed and wrote a ticket to GM but couldn't gete any satisfying answers except that they haven't got any bug reports like mine.

Does someone have any idea?

Kommentar von jerodast

"perculia" provided the list of applicable abilities below. Here's that information in grid format:

Vanish***
Combat Rogue

Offense	Mobility	Defense
Feral Druid	Berserk	Tiger's Fury	Dash	Stampeding Roar	Survival Instincts	Barkskin
Windwalker	Fists of Fury	Energizing Brew	Flying Serpent Kick	Transcendance: Transfer	Fortifying Brew	Zen Meditation
Enhancer	Ascendance	Fire Elemental Totem	Feral Spirit*	Spiritwalker's Grace	Earth Elemental Totem	Shamanistic Rage*
Offense	Mobility	Defense
Beast Master	Bestial Wrath	Stampede	Rapid Fire	Disengage	Feign Death	Camouflage
Survivor	Black Arrow	Stampede	Rapid Fire	Disengage	Feign Death	Camouflage
Marksman	Stampede	Rapid Fire	Disengage	Feign Death	Camouflage	Silencing Shot**
Offense	*Mobility*	Defense
Assassin	Shadow Blades	Vendetta	Sprint	Evasion	Cloak of Shadows	Vanish***
Subtle Rogue	Shadow Blades	Shadow Dance	Sprint	Evasion	Cloak of Shadows
Shadow Blades	Adrenaline Rush	Killing Spree	Sprint	Evasion	Cloak of Shadows

* Feral Spirit has a healing component; Shamanistic Rage has a mana saving component
** Silencing Shot may be offensive or defensive
*** Vanish can provide a tiny damage boost to Assassins. It is a legitimate damage cooldown for Subtlety rogues.

Remember, comparing abilities one-to-one between classes is difficult - there's no rule that says those 3 shaman cooldowns add more dps than those 2 rogue cooldowns. However, comparing abilities between specs can be useful - for instance, an improvement on Black Arrow is clearly more PvE oriented than a Silencing Shot buff. Hopefully this chart can help you decide whether the trinket focuses on the things you want it to for your spec.

Kommentar von Kinta

Assassin Rogues

Vendetta - 1.53 minutes

Shadow Blades - 2.29 minutes

Sprint - 45.8 seconds

Evasion - 1.53 minutes

Vanish - 1.53 minutes

Cloak of Shadows - 45.8 seconds

Subtlety Rogues

*see above*

Shadow Dance - 45.8 seconds

Combat Rogues

*see above*

Killing Spree - 1.53 minutes

Adrenaline Rush - 2.29 minutes

Kommentar von Trinity007

This item Garantierte Konsequenzen combined with Item - Hunter T16 2P Bonus the 2 set bonus of hunter gear
means you can actually fire Schnellfeuer evry minute greatly inceasing your DPS .

Kommentar von hawkswin

I wonder how the +16 is going to affect this. What priority does it have as far as valor upgrades?

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