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评论来自 Blastor

This is a 20% haste increase, not a 20% increase in casting time.

It actually boils down to a 16.66% faster cast speed.

The tooltip will be updated in a future patch.

评论来自 116195

8.33 second casting time on teleport/portals..... JUST CHECKED IT OUT! im thinking twince about respecing.

评论来自 coniferous

I know a lot of mages have been complaining that icy veins is not particularly useful, but, i've found that the 16.66% faster cast time is really nice. And increasing the amount that it freezes the enemy is a flat dps increase, epically if your specced into shatter and ice shards.

I would estimate its a 14-15% dps increase for mages while activated (assuming that you have the ice shards, shatter, and frost bite talents. )

Some handy things to know...

- Stacks with blood lust
~~- freezing effect will proc off the chilling effect of improved blizzard~~ No longer applies due to the changes in IV
~~- the freezing effect will not proc if you do not have any points into frost bite.~~ No longer applies due to the changes in IV

~~There needs to be some testing into if it will increase the casting time of channeled spells~~ Yes it will.

Pretty spiffy!

Edited for the changes to the spell.

评论来自 54491

imao , it is a pretty nice dps boost for frost mages in pve. just a nice combination with the eye of quigmirran+ icon of the silver crescent (two easily achievable trinkets) ur frostbolts have under 2 seconds casting time (dont mention bloodlus/heroism)

评论来自 Blastor

The freezing effect is all but useless in a raid environment for pve due to the mob getting constantly hit by 15 other people, but the increased haste is useful.

For the shatter PvP build, the freezing effect adds a substantial amount of shatter possibilities.

All in all, this is one of the few talents that gives a great benefit to both the PvE and PvP frost mage.

评论来自 46812

Note that IV does not just work with frost spells, but with every spell you cast.
So you can get off a short poly or scorch too, which might be very handy for pvp situations.

评论来自 StoneLegion

Its not a bad talent but I still recommend clear casting for leveling builds for firemages since I think you would get more out of it. This great though for pvp/raiding builds.

评论来自 Killa

It DOES work with channeled spells, reduced Blizzard rank 2 from a 8 second cast to a 6. If it still calculates the ammount of damage for an 8s blizzard or a 6s one i dont know.

评论来自 121059

I could imagine that this talent will be nerfed in the future for this sole reason, i still hope that it doesnt get nerfed though, anyway, here goes:

Troll racial = 30% Less casting time
Icy Veins = 20% Less casting time (works for all moves)
Bloodlust = 30% Less casting time

This boils down to 80% less casting time if they're all stackable, which in turn provides a 1.2 second pyroblast, not counting any other spell haste items you currently have.

If i'm mistaken, please correct me. Thanks.

First post btw ^^

An example of a perfect raid dps spec that fully utilizes the above tactic is this https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/talent=of0E00fzxIzwZxx0zZbhG0o

Again, if i am mistaken please correct me.

评论来自 Lectris

Stacks with troll racial(berserking).

评论来自 Mutre

I read the patch notes and it wont stack with Heroism, Blood Lust and Power Infusion (tho the last isnt a haste buff).

评论来自 116326

is it gd now in patch 2.4?
looks great in my point of view.. 20 secs of solid casting...

评论来自 Flameenix

/Use Icy Veins
/Use Icon of the Silver Crescent

as a hotkey...

= Happy PvP/PvE mage. :)

(Reccomended macro).

Oh, and USE THIS WITH YOUR WATER ELEMENTAL!

Since water ele's benefit off the same trinket buffs and Icy Veins, this is especially useful! Once again for both PvP and PvE.

评论来自 140772

https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=18230 is broken..

..but to make it work, keep it on your bag and use the following:

#showtooltip Frostbolt
/cast Presence of Mind
/cast Arcane Power
/cast Icy Veins
/use Icon of the Silver Crescent
/cast Frostbolt

(Copied that from wowwiki, http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros_for_mages)

评论来自 203333

As a Fire Mage with Icy Veins, you can create a macro which activates several cooldowns and short-term consumables with one click, something along the lines of:

#showtooltip Icy Veins
/stopcasting
/use Destruction Potion
/stopcasting
/use Flame Cap
/stopcasting
/use Hex Shrunken Head (or any damage trinket you use)
/cast Combustion
/stopcasting
/cast Icy Veins
/stopcasting
/cast Fireball

This will give you 20 seconds of extreme damage, but it does come with the drawback of locking out your mana gems and mana potions. Therefore, it is only advisable that you use this macro if you have a Shadow Priest at hand to provide mana regen or if mana is not an issue. As a final note, you might want to ensure that Scorch has been reapplied right before you use this macro, and that there is no foreseeable situation which will silence you or otherwise stop your casting in the next few seconds.

评论来自 241100

Very useful spell. Just pop Icy Veins if your Ice Barrier is on CD when you're drastically low on health/mana and evocate. If you use Glyph of Evocation it works wonders - a 6.4 second, uninterruptible 60% heal in tight situations. Gotta love the ice.

Also received a new casting animation as of 3.0.1.

评论来自 theyas

"Casting speed of all spells increased by 20% and reduces the chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting by 100%"

It's a good thing this isn't reflected in the actual buff :o

评论来自 Dejmos

Ice Floes reduces the cooldown to 2:24

评论来自 Z3PH

Is it possible to use this and arcane power at the same time? Or they share cd?

评论来自 165543

If you wanna be a retard pull a bunch of mobs use IV and blizz urself. This can be used to AOE grind non CCable mobs the only problem is that you will usually die to those said mobs unless you have a ton of health or a healer.Also you can use this if you wanna AOE grind mobs that use ranged abilities that would otherwise have a nasty pushback making you run oom and die.Thats right this spell means no pushback for blizzard!

评论来自 danroe

Incase you want to know, the icon is a frozen heart.

评论来自 Dogatehw

Note that this is spellstealable, and it's quite obvious to another mage if you have the buff up due to its characteristic glow.

评论来自 Chromededome

Is this spell on the global cooldown?

评论来自 299060

Using this will put a 20s cd on any on use Trinket you have equipped.

评论来自 glacialhawk

This may be me just being ignorant, but is this spell only available through the frost talent tree or can it be learned if you are another spec?

评论来自 Naeco

Hastens your spellcasting, increasing spell casting speed by 20% and reducing the pushback suffered from damaging attacks while casting by 100%. Lasts 20 sec.

Accelerates your spellcasting, granting 20% spell haste and reducing the pushback suffered from damaging attacks while casting by 100%. Lasts 20 sec.

New and improved Icy Veins is now minty fresh!

(Referring to "Excel-erate your breath!" TV commercial)

评论来自 Qoko

After starting to play my mage alt actively endgame I must note some subtleties regarding macroing IV in relation to other Frost cooldowns (Mirror Image and Alter Time), as I initially recommended to macro this to Mirror Image.

In 5.4 mages glyph IV, because the glyphed 冰冷血脉 will circumvent haste cap problems during Time Warp. Glyphed, macroing IV to 镜像 is baseline bad. Images do not benefit from a glyphed IV at all, and it basically wastes one GCD used for a FFB, Ice Lance or Frostbolt. Macroing IV to any of these is not recommended either, because you don't know beforehand which procs you have when activating IV. Tl;dr, macroing IV to a GCD spending spell is not recommended. 镜像 should be cast seperately (preferably before IV, so you don't keep it 26 seconds long off cooldown).

There is however a recommended way to macro IV to Alter Time: Taraezor covers everything you need to know and I will not repeat that here.

评论来自 Thottbot

I think this is best used when you are completely spec'd as frost mage and have your ice barrier. The shield prevents damage from anywhere around 550-750 depending on the skills rank. It has a two minute cooldown, which obviously coldsnap could turn to zero. Not to mention it'll lower your 25-21 second cooldown on your nova.

HOWEVER, blizz has really screwed frost mages by not including ICE BLOCK as a cooldown that is effected by coldsnap. If you read coldsnap's text, i believe this to be misleading because ICE BLOCK is obviously a frost spell.

oh well, can't win them all...

btw... here's my method for AOE:

ice barrier
aggr on mount,
frost nova
get 30 yards distance (blink works, but waste of mana)
i.blizz, i.blizz
Cone of Cold
ice block
Frost nova
Cone of Cold
**Cold Snap**
ice barrier
frost nova
**evocation if needed**
get 30 yards distance
i.blizz, i.blizz
Cone of Cold

can you say exhalted with argeant dawn?

评论来自 Thottbot

-The chicken not frost spell is, yoda said.

-Do you think he might be using bugs to his advantage? Luke said.

-not impossible that is.

评论来自 Thottbot

im a 52 mage and i came up on that quest in un'goro i went on and completed it but i never received the cold snap spell. Did Blizzard take it away or am i missing a step?

评论来自 Thottbot

This commentary page is about the talent "Icy Veins" now

评论来自 Thottbot

I can confirm that as of 16/01/08 taking Icy Veins and POM will not give you an instant teleport.

The tooltip on the teleport reports it has a casting time of 8.33 seconds, but even with POM activated, it still casts as normal.

评论来自 Thottbot

i already tried that with troll berserking and POM/teleport...

it doesn't work, by the way.

评论来自 Thottbot

fire mage gains ice block wow imba!
so what..
frost mage gains icy veins, and they still have cold snap and 4 min ib cd
there's absolutely no point in making a fire mage for pvp.
frost>fire
enough said.

except if you dont have a girlfriend and you need to one-pyro-shot some ppl to rise your ego lol

评论来自 Thottbot

As of now I am 50 arcane 11 fire (Arcane Missles/PoM Pyro)Spec. If you are or plan to be arcane missles spec (with a load of bonus spell damage) and you do a lot of pvp along with pve, keeping the PoM pyro is probably your best bet. However, if you plan to do almost all PVE dungeons and raids(even if you have the Spellfire set as I do), It really pays to re-think that PoM pyro and place those 11 points in frost to get Icy Veins. Using PoM pyro in raids, if your a good Mage like I am, is sometimes not the best choice for if you crit the threat will not only haunt you, but most likely kill you if you dont use Ice Block : ). Using Icy Veins with Arcane missles (and hopefully you were smart enough to put 2 points in Arcane Subtlety), will yield more and faster DPS without risk of seeing your life flash before your eyes if you got decent tank. Safe, fast, and awesome DPS during those crucial raids will really make the guild/raid leaders see you as an asset (as long as you dont brag lol). So it's just a cool thing to try out if you got the Arcane Missle spec and some high bonus spell damage. You got nothing to lose except a few gold for respec and a lot to gain. Have fun with it!

评论来自 Thottbot

For the first time ever, I'm kinda happy that I'm a Troll Mage. I wrote a macro so now I can active this and Berserking simultaneously with one button. I call it "Icy Berzerking?" Pretty kickass combination. Almost makes up for not having Will of the Forsaken or Mana Tap/Arcane Torrent.

评论来自 Thottbot

is there a point to this spell? I dont know of any good use for it....

评论来自 Thottbot

The new buff is really good, Hunters will now face a mage with the ability to cast against them...

评论来自 Thottbot

UPDATE ON THE SPELL AS OF PATCH 2.4

It now takes away the increase of chilled to hit, but now instead makes you immune to pushback on spells. This does not mean in ANY WAY that you are immune to silencing or CD attacks like kick and pummel.

This is amazing for now both fire mages and frost mages. I (as a 70 fire mage) have noticed that this is amazing for raiding and PvP as well. It's great for raiding because it signifigantly lowers your cast time for spells like fireball, scorch, frostbolt, and it may even cause arcane missiles to shoot faster. When I use this and my Quamirran's Eye procs, I have a cast time with fireball for 1.99 sec!
This is also great for PvP because it makes mages much better against hunters (especially BM) because the will not have to rely on their instant cast spells and will be able to pull off a whole 3 second cast.

But that's just my two cents...

评论来自 Twotoesmcgee

Classic Anniversary Servers - this does actually reset the cooldown of Ice Block

链接

冰冷血脉

冰冷血脉

瞬发	3分钟冷却

加快你的施法速度，法术急速提高20%，在施法时因受到伤害而承受的施法推迟时间缩短100%。持续20秒。

魔法增益

冰冷血脉	魔法

法术急速提高20%，在施法时因受到伤害所造成的施法推迟时间缩短100%。
持续20秒

法术细节

持续时间

20秒

类型

冰霜

机制

n/a

驱散类型

魔法

GCD目录

n/a

成本

无

范围

0码 (自身)

施法时间

瞬发

冷却

3分钟

GCD

0秒

效果 #1

Apply Aura：Mod Spell Haste %
价值：20%
PVP 倍率：1

效果 #2

Apply Aura：Modifies Pushback Reduction （9）
价值：100%
PVP 倍率：1
受影响法术:

	暴风雪	变形术	制造法力宝石
	烈焰风暴	唤醒	变形术
	变形术	造餐术	召唤餐桌
	霜火之箭	变形术	变形术
	变形术	冰霜之颌	寒冰箭
	火球术	灼烧	奥术飞弹
[Show 8 More]
	炎爆术	奥术强化	奥术冲击
	补充法力	制造黑暗符印	火球术
	补充法力	烈焰风暴

标记

变形时无法使用
[Do Not Sheath]
不产生威胁
[Reset cooldown upon ending an encounter]

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