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Commentaire de 12070

Currently, the only way to learn this flask is to "Discover" it. In TBC, alchemists discover the new flasks by making already known potions.

Old flask recipes can be got by doing rep grinds;
Flask of Chromatic Resistance: Exalted - Lower City
Flask of Distilled Wisdom: Exalted - Cenarion Expedition
Flask of Supreme power: Exalted - Keepers of Time
Flask of the Titans: Exalted - The Sha'tar

Interestingly, There is no known new, upgraded Flask of supreme power.

Commentaire de 21979

I "discovered" this recipe while brewing an Elixir of Major Defense. Interestingly, recipe discovery puts a notification into chat, the golden "dinging" graphic, and your character does their /cheer emote. It was pretty exciting!

Commentaire de 30080

Anyone know someone that can make this on the Haomarush server?

Commentaire de 22039

I don't understand it, how do you "discover" this? Is it a world drop? You're saying when you made Elixir of Major Defence, you got a golden "dinging" graphic, do you HAVE to be a Master Elixirist to "discover" this? And when you do "discover" it, are you able to make it whenever you want?

Commentaire de PrimEviL

do you have to speccialize elixirs to do these discoveries?

Commentaire de Chillincold

Guide to discovering potions/flasks/elixirs/transmutes.

For the casual gamer:
- Make sure your transmutation is always on cooldown. (You would probably log in at the same time everyday for a few hours, so keep a few reagents in your bag and do a transmute everytime its up.)

- Make potions and elixirs that you use although buying them from the auction house maybe cheaper than buying the reagents. ( You would probably have a cash flow set back so my advice is to have your second profession as herbalism to have a continuous supply of your own reagents.)

- Make yourself known to your guildmates and in game friends that you are an alchemist so that when party/raid members run low on potions/elixirs you can make some on the spot and charge them for it. (Try to keep stock of vials and herbs for potions/elixirs that move fast e.g netherbloom, terocone, mountain silversage, felweed, dreaming glory, etc...)

- My personal recomendations to such a gamer is to be a potion master. (Please don't flame me with your never ending argument on which mastery is better. I just think that a casual gamer trying to be a mobile alchemy auction house, potions are the most likely item people run out of that are essential to a raid/heroic.)

For the power gamer:
- Your transmutation timer has no excuse to be up. (If you're absent minded or loose track of time, set an alarm.)

- Make potions and elixirs that suffice your usage. Craft the item of your chosen mastery. Spread your crafts on a few items so you don't flood the auction house with one item. You should be able to be the most competetive seller since your procs yield you extra items. ( After a week or two you will be familiar with the items that sell and those that dont. Make more of the ones that do sell.)

- Make macros to advertise yourself as an alchemist on general chat when you cross teritories and trade chat when ur at a major city. (I find that listing some of your best potions/elixirs/flasks helps because not everyone is an alchemist and not everyone knows the available items in alchemy.)

- My personal recomendations to such a gamer is to be a elixir master. (Please don't flame me with your never ending argument on which mastery is better. I just think that a power gamer can spread his liabilities as there are a lot more elixirs compared to potions and such a gamer would be able to gather materials to create flasks {falls under elixir mastery}.)

Tips
- Always have reagents in your bag. If you run low on bag space priorotise for reagents on tansmutations.

- Make frequent trips to the auction house to know prices or download a mod that helps do it for you. I have mods but I still rely on my memory for all alchemy stuff because for alchemy its not an average of price over time. Its the price on that day, that week or that month. If your server is in end game you will be looking at completely different prices of all alchemy items compared to a server that has newly begun.

- Make frequent trips to the auction house to know your competitiors. If you can't beat their prices make a pact with them (e.g. you make certain items they make certain items, or if you're different masteries you should recomend your fellow customers to each other.)

- {More for power gamers} Be up to date on how far and how fast your server is progressing. This way you can be the first to be there with the items. (e.g. I sold more than 250 stacks of greater arcane protection potions alothough i knew how to make major arcane protection potions. At this point in time we're 3-4 months into the expansion and most players are still trying to save up cash or simply can't afford the major potions. On my server now, most guilds dont need them for the curator fight in karazhan but before they were experienced in taking him down they we're willing to pay my outrageous prices to have an edge on the encounters.)

Commentaire de 53890

Got this discovered today at 2.1 patch release, shortly there after i got 5x for the first flask i made that day.

Commentaire de Pandor

Discovered this making elixirs of healing power as an elixir master.

Commentaire de Thale

I discovered it yesterday by making 20+ Elixirs of Empowerment.
Having 5/6 flask recipes now I found out that in order to do them you have to make 20+ of a recipe to get it.
This is not 100% the rule (you can be lucky to discover it with a single craft) but it worked for me (Elixir Master)

Commentaire de Ludwick

Requirements to make a discovery

You must be crafting a potion, elixir, flask or performing a transmutation that was added in TBC.

As a rule of thumb that's anything that is learnt from a master alchemy trainer, dropped from a mob in outland or purchased from a vendor in outland. The only real exceptions are the pre-TBC flasks that have been made available from faction vendors in outland.

NOT requirements to make a discovery

You don't need to be in outland
You don't need a mastery
You don't need to be 375 alchemy
You don't need to be level 70
You don't need to craft yellow or orange recipes to make discoveries. Even grey recipes can proc discoveries
You don't need to be crafting a related recipe *except* in the case of cauldrons (You can discover flasks when making potions for example)

List of recipes learned by discovery (accurate as of 29/01/2008)

Flasks

Potions

Super Rejuvenation Potion

Transmutes

Cauldrons - To discover these you need to be crafting the related major protection potion. Cauldron of Major Holy Protection is believed to be non-existent. The discovery of these recipes is much more likely.
Cauldron of Major Arcane Protection
Cauldron of Major Fire Protection
Cauldron of Major Frost Protection
Cauldron of Major Nature Protection
Cauldron of Major Shadow Protection

Commentaire de valan

learned from making a mad alchemist pot

Commentaire de 195190

Something everyone else failed to mention is that all Flasks have to be made in an Alchemy Lab. There is one 43,19 in Shattrath City

Commentaire de 172669

NOT requirements to make a discovery

You don't need to be in outland
You don't need a mastery
You don't need to be 375 alchemy
You don't need to be level 70
You don't need to craft yellow or orange recipes to make discoveries. Even grey recipes can proc discoveries

Exact, I discover flask of fortification at lvl 57 in Stormwind with craft many super-mana potions about 360 in Alchemy, green craft at this time.

Commentaire de Thorhoof

I'm currently lacking in def rating by four points. I used to use this flask on a regular basis when I was level 70, but it seems that now even though it reads "increases defense rating by 10...", it seems the defense rating is no longer working.

Can anyone confirm?

Thanks,

Ror

Commentaire de frakbt

A couple flasks were recently removed from the game (Lesser Flask of Resistance and Flask of Chromatic Wonder). Can anyone confirm one way or the other if this removed or still learnable? Thanks!

Commentaire de PerturbedDwarf

The Burning Crusade flasks are discovered while crafting other alchemy recipes. If you are a recipe collector (like me) and would like to try to learn all four of them, I would recommend crafting Mighty Arcane Protection Potion and Mighty Fire Protection Potion.

Be prepared to craft a lot of them, though. So far I've crafted around 400 of those two potions and I've discovered 2 of the flasks, so the discoveries are probably pretty rare.

Commentaire de Crieve

After many years of failing to acquire Flask of Fortification and Flask of Blinding Light and several thousand gold, I have finally acquired them both... and within 1 minute of each other.

I was making Mighty Protection Potions and opened up Ackis Recipe List's scanner while the creation process was going on. I Ctrl+Clicked the link, viewed the Flask of Blinding Light recipe in the tooltip, and on the next craft, I earned the Discovery! I was absolutely SHOCKED. It felt as though my interaction with the tooltip (aka triggering the data cache of the recipe from the server) made the discovery possible.

With this in mind, I Ctrl+Clicked the Flask of Fortification recipe in the addon and began crafting again. It did not activate for about 6 items and then it popped the Discovery! I WAS ABSOLUTELY OUT OF MY MIND WITH JOY!

I suspect that there's some sort of item reference dependency that is preventing these items from triggering and the further along we get, the less likely that an item is cached on the server. (Which would explain why it feels passively more difficult to acquire recipes via Discovery over time.)

I hope this helps someone, I intend to try the CTRL+Click trick on my next primal transmute for 100% obtainable alchemy recipes. (Curse you, Primal Mana to Fire!)

Commentaire de BlueMagician

I recently burned many thousands of Cata and MoP herbs trying to discover this (and the other TBC 'Flask Of's)...

After several nights of despair and disappointment, I made a very rare (for me) ticket to a GM; just to get an official assurance that the proc chance was still working as intended.

I know RNG is RNG, but I just wanted to know that here, at patch 6.2, they hadn't screwed the whole thing up and that I was wasting time and mats even trying.

Whilst waiting for a GM response, my click finger got itchy, and burnt a couple thousand more herbs.

Out of sheer desperation, I even parked myself at the Shattrath Alchemy Lab - it was nice to visit again after all these years, regardless of whether it really made a difference or not.

Anyway. On the third night of trying, and countless bagfulls of herb later, I managed to proc discoveries for both Flacon de fortifiant and Flacon de lumière aveuglante, whilst making Élixir du hozen fou and Potion de focalisation, respectively.

I have still yet to discover Flacon de pure mort, but will keep trying with renewed vigour, given my recent successes.

For reference, the eventual GM response was

I have checked information about Alchemy for now and can say, that everything seems to work as intended and correctly. So, there is still probability to discover old elixirs, but a bit less, than previously.

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UPDATE: 9th October 2016, patch 7.0.3, 14 months after my original post:
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Having burnt 10's-of-thousands more Felweed, Rain Poppy, Dreamfoil, Green Tea Leaf, Dreaming Glory etc etc etc - single-handedly supporting the market for legacy herbs on my realm in the process...

...I finally discovered Flacon de pure mort whilst crafting, of all things, Potion de protection contre les Arcanes puissante.

I was really starting to think that the discovery mechanism had been broken and that no-one had noticed. After all, a lot of things that used to be polished/simple/smooth/well-coded in WoW seem to have gained wrinkles in recent years - what if this was one of them? My mind was in paranoia overdrive...

Thankfully all is well it seems. At last after all this time, I'm at 100% Alchemy for recipes up to (but not yet including) Legion. Don't give up people!

Commentaire de trut3ch

Since I can't find a current thread relating specifically to Burning Crusade 'Discovery!' recipes I decided to post this in the threads relating to the 'Discovery!' Flask Recipes.

Level 100 Worgen Druid, Darkscythe-Malorne.

After having completed most of the Wrath recipes through Northrend Research, I began gathering Burning Crusade recipes. Once I was down to 'Discovery!' recipes, I came to wowhead looking for threads of the best way to discover them. There's a lot of information, but no one has provided any proof as to how they have been doing it. Most of the ways described in these threads involve either a) a lot of materials, b) a lot of gold. I found a cheaper recipe that has provided results for my Alchemists, and several guildmates Alchemists AND I've provided Screenshots.. so you know it works.

Using just the Crazy Alchemist Potion recipe (skill level 400) I've learned all the 'Discovery!' recipes except the transmutes. It only requires Goldclover x2 to craft and Goldclover is, by far, the easiest herb to farm in Northrend. It exists in at least 5 zones (although Grizzly Hills 1st and Shalozar Basin 2nd provided the fastest and easiest farm).

Also of note: During The Burning Crusade, I had a Rogue Alchemist and I distinctly remember gathering enough materials to craft ~ 1000 Super Mana Potions and I discovered nearly all the 'Discovery!' recipes pretty fast. During WoD, my wife leveled a Shaman to 70 and, using this same method, discovered all of the 'Discovery!' recipes crafting only Super Mana Potions very quickly.

At 100 on my Druid, I spent about 35k gold on materials to craft Super Mana Potions and got 0 'Discovery!' recipes. I don't want to suggest that Level played a part in her easily discovering all these recipes, but it seems odd that on a level 70 character the 'Discovery!' recipes came pretty fast on a TBC recipe and at level 100 I got 0 from TBC recipes.

I know, you're all going to say, unlucky RNG, and you're probably right, but within 100 crafts of Crazy Alchemist Potion I got my first 'Discovery!' and within 500 crafts of Crazy Alchemist Potion, I learned all the 'Discovery!' flasks.

I hope this information helps someone.

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EDIT: I submitted 2 screenshots of 2 discoveries using this method, but the guidelines state, 'do not include chat' for submitting screenshots. This is the only way to prove the method works. Hopefully, the screenshots get approved. If not, hopefully the links I provided in the post will meet with their approval. Also, you can find Darkscythe - US Malorne Level 100 Worgen Druid online pre-raid Thursdays/Sundays 7PM Eastern for help or additional information regarding any of my posts. Thanks and Good Luck!

Commentaire de BoroTuralyon

Learned this from making Elixir of Armor Piercing from wowlk (2 tiger lily)

procced after like making my 2nd one.....was making stacks of 20 of mop stuff like potion of focus and mad hozen elixir with no luck

Commentaire de Berrenger

Decided to finally get the final three "discovery" flask recipes I was missing from Burning Crusade - Flask of Fortification, Flask of Blinding Light, and Flask of Pure Death.

I purchased 500 Ragveil from the auction house and used them to create Mad Alchemist's Potions. For luck I decided to use the Alchemy Lab in Shattrath (because why not?).

It took 231 crafts to learn all three recipes. I don't know if the proc rate has been increased or if I was just very lucky, but I thought I'd share my findings. I should mention that during Battle for Azeroth I created well over 2000 of these potions without any procs whatsoever.

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Flacon de fortifiant

Flacon de fortifiant
2.5 s d'incantation

Composants:

Gangrelotus, Chardon de mana (3), Lichen ancien (7), Fiole de cristal

Métier : Alchimie de l’Outreterre
Découverte : Recettes d’alchimie d’Outreterre

Flacon de fortifiant (2)
Niveau d'objet 27
Utilise: Augmente l’esquive du personnage de 1 et son maximum de points de vie de 27 pendant 1 hour. Compte à la fois comme un Élixir de bataille et du Gardien. Cet effet persiste après la mort. (3 S Recharge)
Niveau 26 requis

Empilement maxi: 200

Prix de Vente: 50

Composants

	Gangrelotus (1)
	Chardon de mana (3)
	Création d’un chardon de mana (3)
	Feuille de chardon de mana (30)
	Lichen ancien (7)
	Création d’un lichen ancien (7)
	Pétale de lichen ancien (70)
	Fiole de cristal (1)

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	Flacon de fortifiant

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