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Kommentar von Kaziel

While I'm not in beta, I would imagine that it gives a magical resistance bonus equal to your level, not just stuck at 57 forever.

Kommentar von d3nyd

During alpha, this didn't give spell resistance. Now it's by far the best tanking and even the best PvP Presence (debatable of course).

Kommentar von SheriffK

Combined with the bladed armor talent...this would seriously allow for some sweet +AP...

i would even consider using it for dps<_< ...if it weren't for the 45% threat increase lol^.^

Kommentar von 170325

use for pvp and boom lots of attack power

Kommentar von d3nyd

Whoa, +45% threat? Didn't it used to be 25%?

Kommentar von frmorrison

When a DK is attacking another Melee class in PvP, this is the Presence that should be up. 45% more armor is amazing mitigation.

Kommentar von 69024

Does this stack with the resistances given from Frost Aura?
(Or the talent Acclimation?)

Kommentar von 30515

Does this have any use in pvp ? like if youre kited - you switch to frost, and can survive much nicer vs melee or caster (also with resistances from frost tree ).

Kommentar von 238371

it takes a frost rune to switch to it, and if you were in unholy since its pvp, another unholy rune to switch back. i dont think its really worth it.

Kommentar von 124740

Did anyone notice it was changed to The death knight takes on the presence of frost, increasing total health by 10%, armor contribution from items by 60%, and reducing spell damage taken by 5%. Increases threat generated. Only one Presence may be active at a time?

Kommentar von Pirwzy

I like how it doesn't reduce damage dealt, like Warriors' Defensive Stance does, but still gives higher threat generation. I suppose from looking around at talents and gear and stuff that Death Knights might not have the HP and Mitigation that Warriors or Paladins will have on their plate, so maybe this lets the DPS go faster to kill the boss before the healers run into trouble from the additional healing required in a Death Knight tank?

I dunno, just postulating.

Kommentar von 80916

Easily one of the most powerful spells in the game due to how much is changed when you press one button. It's really due to this that DK specs are not immediately determinate of their tanking ability.

Massive health increase, as if talents and gear weren't enough.
Essentially adds the equivalent of a shield for the Death Knight, as shields do tend to exceed 50% of a tank's armor value.
As if DK's didn't generate enough threat with their DPS (which is pretty high right now), you get an across-the-board threat increase.

A DPS DK could easily pop this after the tank dies and take over a pull to keep the group alive. It's just that good.

Kommentar von 240416

A question:

The ToolTip says -5% Spell Damage

The Aura text according to WoWhead is -5% All Damage.

Which is accurate?

Kommentar von d3nyd

This is being changed to 80% increased armor and 15% less spell damage taken.

Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13393389855&sid=1

Kommentar von 216897

can you give this to people?

Kommentar von 267327

dont be calling me a hater or anything. as a death knight frost presence is a big help if i were to pvp in blood pres ill get 3 shotted by an arcane mage and hunters but i have noticed that when fighting paladins i see no difference in mitigation in either blood or frost presence the physical dmg yes is mitigated but when ever they hit me with holy based magic i see no difference in mitigation i still get critted for like 10k dmg in 3secs i was screaming: "NERF RET PALLYS!" like many other non pallys then it dawns on me there is no such thing as holy resistance wich means a pallys holy spells will not be mitigated by the 15% of frost presence. its not that they need a nerf tho i think they shudnt have so many stuns but blizz maybe shud make holy magic resistable like arcane or nature based magic.

i have said my piece. and ps. resilliance still plays a part right? i currently have 312 resill just a few pieces of savage glad set

Kommentar von 247767

The frost presence scaling of armor no longer applies to trinkets, rings and amulets as of patch 3.0.8.

Kommentar von 372004

My 80 death knight tank uses Frost Presence alot and it says "increases total health by 10%" but when i use the spell it doesn't increase my health, is this because of a new patch or what?

Kommentar von 163020

This is clearly the best way to tank rogues.

Kommentar von knarel

alright in 3.3 it reduces dmg taken by 8% does this stack with my armor's 63% reduction? or does it just add to armor.

Kommentar von 202865

is it just me or I think they should make the threat generated to 60%
Just to be like rightous fury, but not too OP

Kommentar von 503640

It seems the spell ID for Frost Presence will get switched around with Blood presence, which makes sense, considering that the Blood tree will be the only dedicated tanking tree come Cataclysm. Our current Frost presence effects are still there, but with a change in name, also, Improved Frost Presence is being moved to the Blood tree and being renamed accordingly.

Kommentar von 664892

Rune cost removed for Cata! :D

Edit: Apply Aura: Mod Threat (127)
Value: 100
What?

Edit 2: Apply Aura: Mod Threat (127)
Value: 125
What?

Kommentar von 664892

Yes, I know, but I thought that it was an error, just like Righteous Fury description, "Increases your threat generation while active, making you a more effective tank" -.-

Kommentar von majinvegito123

As of Patch 4.0.1, Blood is now the tanking tree for Death Knights.

Kommentar von fox112

There are many new tanking trinkets that increase armor. I believe it was changed so this does not stack for druids. Does it stack for Deathknights?

Kommentar von Ymirjarik

(all IMO but downrate if you must)

I don't see why blizzard doesn't outrightly give us a solid shield and several skills to boot, most of our blood talents only work properly when we're damaged considerably (which i must argue isn't the case for 90% of the other classes) and we generally have management issues if someone either a) doesn't know a typical rotation or b) is between poorly to even decently geared (even back when max Def. Rating was a must for all tanks, a fashionably geared dk still couldn't hold that much against some of WotLk raid bosses or other such events) or c) get's caught between an extensive rune cooldown stage (which i've run into quite often).

Speaking from my own experience with the class since its first appearance, i feel more comfortable with a solid shield % rating and some shield CD's then trying to count 5 seconds and timing a near useless "shield"-like talent that's involved with blood presence. Not to mention the loathesome "lol it's a failknight, time to reque" that seem to be everywhere these days.

Kommentar von 834740

I think Frost DPS are stupid on WOTLK and they are still stupid on Cata. Blood DPS are the best for WOTLK. And now the SUCK on cata. Then we go to Unholy wich I preffer to like but Blood was a lot better.

Kommentar von themeii

Newest beta changed stamina portion of this

Blood Presence now increases Stamina by 25%, up from 8%.

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Effekt #1

Apply Aura: [Mod Stat - %] (Ausdauer)
Wert: 20%
PVP-Multiplikator: 0.5

Effekt #2

Apply Aura: [Modifies Threat] (2)
Wert: -100%
PVP-Multiplikator: 1
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	Knochensturm

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Apply Aura: [Mod % Damage Taken] (Arkan, Feuer, Frost, Heilig, Natur, Physisch, Schatten)
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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