评论来自 Calcitrant

Provides you with a choice of up to 3 schematics to learn.

you get the notes from scrapping other schematics as well as the green items picked up from scrapping

评论来自 Mithim

If you can't currently learn something from the item, you'll get the message;

There is nothing left to invent and you cannot be convinced otherwise.

You may still have recipes to learn but require points in certain specializations.

For example, to get the recipes for profession gear, you need to unlock the Profession Gear specialization under Engineered Equipment, then your Comprehensibly Organized Ideas will give new recipes.

评论来自 Qoko

If you want to max your 一堆锈蚀的碎片 yield, keep at least one invention unlearned! (so anything marked 'Invention' in the Engineering window). This includes prototypes and those learned from 为了便于理解而整理后的一些想法. For details, see the spoiler tag.

Once you learn all inventions, they no longer drop from 在废料中搜寻. This sort of makes sense, but 拆卸发明 also gives about 15 一堆锈蚀的碎片 on average so you lose out on a lot of scrap (which in turn give parts to use or sell). 拆卸发明 takes exactly two minutes a stack at Crafting Speed 75%, so in the long run this is definitely worth it. 在废料中搜寻 will give some leftover scrap (and notes in case you still miss patterns from 为了便于理解而整理后的一些想法) instead of inventions but this pales in comparison to the thousands you get from disassembling.

I can now first hand confirm this: wanting to max out my knowledge from First Crafts the only pattern I'm now missing is 逃生舱残次品: 发明 and 在废料中搜寻 give me 原型：逃生舱残次品 consistently. If you go down to just one invention just bank it to prevent learning it by accident. Every other invention will now be 无法辨识的原型 that you can 拆卸发明 at will.

I'm not sure if this effective nerf is intended but it seems to be, considering the 'leftover' from scouring after you learn all inventions.

评论来自 lexmosti

How many schematics we can learn by using this item?

评论来自 selerik

The War Within Engineering - Discovery Mechanics (A great idea, or scrap it?)
Engineers can learn 75 new recipes as of The War Within's launch, 50 of which are gated behind Discovery mechanics.

Discovery Mechanics - How it Works

Engineers get started with 在废料中搜寻, taught by their profession trainer.
在废料中搜寻 will quickly allow the engineer to discover the profession's other essential skills, standard parts, and be a rare source of prototypes .
They will quickly learn 发明, which is a guaranteed* prototype each day. (*While supplies last)

Prototypes are single-use versions of engineer recipes which teach that recipe when used.

IMPORTANT: Once an Engineer learns the recipe, they will never receive the prototype version again.

拆卸发明 can be used on unwanted or excess prototypes (including 无法辨识的原型), generating up to 10 一堆锈蚀的碎片 and 草草写下的纸条.
草草写下的纸条 create 为了便于理解而整理后的一些想法, which can only be used to learn Engineering recipes. Neither item has any vendor value or other uses.

Discovery Mechanics - How it Doesn't Work

The discovery flavor and mechanics are built around 3 abilities: 在废料中搜寻, 发明, and 拆卸发明.
If an engineer learns all 14 recipes linked to prototypes, they will never receive a prototype again.
Instead of 无法辨识的原型, they directly receive 草草写下的纸条.

What are the impacts of losing the prototype mechanic?

拆卸发明 ceases to function.
After the initial discovery/skill-up phase, 发明 also ceases to have any function.
Since prototypes (recyclable) are replaced with 草草写下的纸条 (not recyclable), 在废料中搜寻 becomes a less efficient source of parts.

How many 为了便于理解而整理后的一些想法 does an engineer actually need?

28 recipes require 为了便于理解而整理后的一些想法 to discover them.

How the Engineer allocates their Engineering Knowledge is also important, since three different sub-specialties control access to discoveries..

What about when you have invented everything?
There is light at the end of the tunnel!
When you have discovered the final recipe requiring 为了便于理解而整理后的一些想法 , you will cease to receive 草草写下的纸条 completely.
在废料中搜寻 will now have a chance to create the finished version of prototyped recipes, such as the tinker modules and potion bombs.
发明 will have a 100% chance to produce the finished version of one of the prototyped recipes.

Engineering Recipes - Source Breakdown

Discovery - 在废料中搜寻: 8
Discovery - 发明 Prototypes: 15
Warning: If you discover all Prototypes, you will no longer be able to use 拆卸发明!

Discovery from 为了便于理解而整理后的一些想法: 42

Note: All invenions that can be Prototyped can also be discovered from 为了便于理解而整理后的一些想法.
Discovery Requirement - Goggles: 4
Discovery Requirement - Profession Gear: 6
Discovery Requirement - Bracers: 4

Profession Trainer: 8
Vendors: 9
Quest Rewards: 1
Total Recipes: 75

评论来自 Hhalle567

Awesome post selerik, thank you!

Here are the 14 Prototypes, it's okay to learn all but one of them (you pick):

3 Explosives:

Potion Bomb of Power
Potion Bomb of Recovery
Potion Bomb of Speed

2 Tinkers:

Earthen Delivery Drill
Heartseeking Health Injector

and 9 Devices:

Barrel of Fireworks
Defective Escape Pod
Filmless Camera
Wormhole Generator: Khaz Algar
Convincingly Realistic Jumper Cables
Irresistible Red Button
Pausing Pylon
Algari Repair Bot 11O
Portable Profession Possibility Projector

Box o' Booms, Stonebound Lantern, and Crowd Pummeler 2-30 apparently do not have a chance of showing up as a "Prototype: "

评论来自 Eillesthis

一堆锈蚀的碎片 > 在废料中搜寻, or 发明 (better) > Prototypes you can use to learn, or... > 拆卸发明 > more scrap and 草草写下的纸条 > 为了便于理解而整理后的一些想法 > pick one of three schematics to learn

There are 14 prototypes, plus the 无法辨识的原型 which can be turned into one of the fourteen. Once you've learned all 14, Scour Through Scrap/Invent goes straight to Hastily Scrawled Notes.

评论来自 Chaugernaut

i just noticed today i was getting instead of the soulbound one. those are warbounds so im guessing since i have nothing new to learn its a way to help alts learn recipe faster ?

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为了便于理解而整理后的一些想法

物品等级：23
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使用: 研究你的笔记，选择一个新的工程学图纸来学习。

随着你在工程学领域的日渐专精，可选择的图纸数量也会增加。
需要卡兹阿加工程学 (1)
"你不确定这些碎纸上画的是什么，好在经过思考，重新排列后，这些碎纸已经可以激发出新的点子了。"

最大叠加: 200

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