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Сообщение от ArgentSun

@Uruthmic, thank you for the report, the article has been corrected.

@Quickhorn, I hadn't heard about that. I'll edit the article, but do you mind linking the blue post, blog, or patch notes where the change was mentioned?

Сообщение от 436173

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Сообщение от ArgentSun

Maloriak (like Magmaw, Omnotron Defense System) was written up by Malgayne, since I myself was pretty busy at the time. I haven't "proof-read" his articles yet, which is why things like that pop up here and there. I'll go fix that and then go over the entire page for Maloriak, making sure the rest is accurate as well.

Сообщение от Orranis

There was one thing I saw on Cho'gall which made me wonder a little bit, and that was to kill the Adherents on Cho'gall for the melee, which, unless you're moving Cho'gall (in which case you should probably state something along those lines), will have the oozes spawn right on top of your raid which would be BAD. My guild followed Tankspot and killed them by the stairs, but I think you have to either kill them further from Choggy or specify that Choggy should be moved off them.

Сообщение от ArgentSun

This (and Sinestra) are Ashelia's article, so I'll pass on the feedback?

Сообщение от Orranis

I guess... I mean, it's not like we have a PM system or anything to tell them *HINT HINT*. And you
mods have that special forum we once found.

Сообщение от glyneth

I was just reading the Article on Rohash in Throne of the Four Winds:

You will want to split your raid before engaging the Djinn. Anshal and Nezir will require a tank each; Rohash can be tanked by a spellcaster/ranged DPS. Each platform will require healing as well - you can split your healers evenly. As far as DPS goes, you want no DPS on Nezir (initially), your casters on Anshal, and your melee on Rohash. If you can't split your DPS evenly between Anshal and Rohash, put more on Anshal.

You don't want the melee on Rohash, because he puts up the tornadoes that will keep melee from staying on him, I believe.

Сообщение от Ashelia

Сообщение от AmiYuy

Bastion of Twilight
Valiona and Therion

The info for Валиона and Тералион is very misleading in regards to Fabulous Flames and Twilight Meteorites and I just suffered through a group who believed this write-up even though they were told it was wrong.

Phase 2:
# Fabulous Flames is Theralion's other ability, but unfortunately there is nothing you can do to counter it.
This is correct, however it seems you got part of it's description pasted under the Meteorites' area.

# While flying in the air, Valiona will shoot Twilight Meteorites at players in the ranged pile. Unlike Dazzling Destruction, those actually target the player, so moving won't save you - it will, in fact, kill you. You want your ranged pile watching for the Meteorites, and as soon as they see the void zone spawned after the hit, moving in a direction chosen prior to the fight. You don't want to move too much either, as you may end up covering your entire room with void zones - just outside the edge of the black circle will be enough.
The "void zones" are Fabulous Flames' effect on the ground. They are NOT related to Twilight Meteorites.
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Fabulous Flames is a randomly targeted ability that, if you have people at range, will usually hit them. It forms a large black "void zone" on the ground that ticks for large amounts of damage that the person targeted and anyone nearby must move out of.

Twilight Meteorites can be targeted at anyone in the raid and are shown by a purple arrow over the target's head. When they land they do a large amount of damage that is split by everyone nearby (like Blackout), so it is imperative that those targeted are in a group of people.
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Strategy-wise for Twilight Meteorites, the best way I have seen it accomplished is to have the melee group on the tank in Phase 2 and the ranged spread about the room, so that Engulfing Magic does not get dropped into a ranged pile nor does a Fabulous Flames void zone. Those targeted for Twilight Meteorites should move into the melee group with the tank until the meteor lands and then move back out.

Сообщение от ArgentSun

I'll edit the description to be more accurate, but I am not sure if your strategy is entirely correct either. It sounds like a strategy that will reduce your raid damage, but it may result in weird void zones. If I can't test it today, I'll just add it as an alternative strategy in a new bullet point.

Сообщение от AmiYuy

Neither strategy is the "right" one of course, it'll always depend on the group itself. The 2 groups one listed previous and the ranged spread out one I mentioned are both also up on Wowpedia.

Personally I've seen a 10 man group go from wiping, 9 minute long fights, using the 2 groups strategy to instant kill in 5 minutes when switching to having ranged spread out, which is why I think it's very worth mentioning. It's the strategy my 25 man guild uses and that I've seen successful in 10 mans, whereas the other all I've seen is wipes from too much damage on the ranged groups due to Fabulous Flames hitting 4+ people rather than just one or two and too much lost DPS time due to constant ranged movement. Less movement = much higher damage from the ranged. It doesn't really matter where the void zones are as long as the ranged are spread around the dragon.

Сообщение от drpibb

I think you should add Heroic strat for the fights

Сообщение от ArgentSun

I, of course, agree. I didn't want to, since my own guild was not getting there, but as things look like right now, we won't be seeing heroic raids until 4.2.0, sooo... I might just grab whatever information is available on the Internet and put that in there. In the meantime, refer to TankSpot for videos on most of the heroic fights.

Сообщение от parazyte

In the description of Beauty,
They are classified as Beasts so <list of abilities> do wonders.

Please add Rogue sap to that list as it also works on beasts.

Сообщение от ArgentSun

The problem with Sap is that you can't maintain it. That's why it's not there.

Сообщение от parazyte

Well unless Glyphed it still has a 1min duration which is fairly long. Which means it Prio2 mob can be temporarily CC'd while dealing with Prio1 mob which should take less than 1min to nuke.

But talking about maintaining sap:

You can reapply sap using Vanish before it runs out (and then Shadowstep back for a nice Ambush on the FF mob).
Another option for a Subtlety Rogue such as myself is to use Shadow Dance to reapply it. I know it means less damage done but sometimes you just need to CC

But that may be only my way of playing and not an established method, not sure what other Rogues are doing. Just saying there are options if there is a creative person in the group :-)

Сообщение от ArgentSun

If you are smart enough to figure out how to re-Sap, you'll also figure out that you can Sap in the first place :)

Сообщение от 168916

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Сообщение от ArgentSun

To address your feedback:

I honestly didn't know that. Is there any way you can dig the debuff name for me?
Blizzard cheated. They changed the way the fight works - it used to be that she just did three sets of explosives, nothing fancy.

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