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Comentário de Thottbot

many ppl say that frost is better for pvp, and pve, all lies, same goes for fire.
it all depends on your play style, your equipement, and your skill vs a class.

about frost:
basicly, with meduim +damage gear, with frost, u wont be able to kill a class that can heal easly, most of the times u will loose, if they know what they are doing that is. but u will own mellee classes.
with high +damage and frost, it will be easier to kill healers, tou is still harder then melee.
about pve... so much crap i see here...
frost dosent have the best mana efficiency, only with frost channeling. frost got so much reputation as the best for pve, because of molten core, and onyxia being imune to fire (most of the mobs this is)or at least, have a huge fire resistance. lets take BWL for example, im a fire mage, im always in the top 3, most of the time as first in damage meters (synced ofc) only loose for frost mages (that are outdamaged by all hunters and rogues) during firemaw, ebonroc, lootgore and nefarian. tou i still keep meself in the top 3, where hunters pass, other mage is right behinde me, or in front sometimes, fire mage aswell.

In AQ frost will show how it is infact when compared to fire, even in pve, if you are fire, and run oom, even with ruby, citrine and evocation (pots if u use) then you really should reroll... specially if you alliance.

for pvp, fire, its the most damaging of all, with frost.... well u will see for sure "bigger" numbers, and that drawns all ppl, but they forget ( or dont know... sigh) about fire crits... frost has 100% +damage, fire has 110%, AND a very nice propriety, ignite stacks, and renews, that is why 2 firemages working together will do the biggest damage you can attain =P

imagine: you crit for 1k, 400 will be a dot, after 1 tick (200 damage) you get another crit, it will stack, and renew, so 400+400, and since it restarts, now it will have a tick of 400, crit again, and a tick for 600, so far i had a tick of 2.2k in kazzak togheter with other firemage, we kept renewing our ignites. wich will give us a much higher damage then frost can ever dream off... (this calcultaions made based on always being a 1k crit) i dont have AP, scorch crits fore 900+, lower fireball hits so far are 1.090, without trinkets.

but after all, it all depends on your playstile and gear. but plz, dont say barbarities such as frost having more damage then fire... only problem with fire is resitances idd... but that will be fixed in 1.9. (not quite as much as i would like, but still... =P )

most ppl that post here will never see tier 2 anyway =PP

about netherwind, is not a bad set, but, cause blizzy hate us, we still benefict more from not-set items,i have 5/8 nw at, but only use 3/8, and dont think i will get more, since it will be outdated when 1.9 comes out, since AQ set is a LOT better, and has -resistances on it (wich should be put in nw aswell... else what reason to get nw? ^^ )

ppl that base on movies: plz... from days of taping, they only show the best crits, the lucky events, ect, sorry for uber long post, but i needed to explain all, so it's easier to understand =P

Comentário de Thottbot

fire does more dmg. Combustion, talisman of emphermal power, blastwave is with some arcane explosion will kill more alliance than you can count. For netherwind v.s arcanist; personally i think every single mage should grab as much +dmg gear as possible.
Even that i have some netherwind now i never even touched arcanist. Give me gloves of the hypnotic flam and mana igniting cord not arcanist belt and gloves. A mages main job is to deal as much dmg as possible. That is what i try to do :)

Comentário de Thottbot

PVP: well ill just use my zandalarian hero charm and my mind quickening jam..and kill.. well..whatever is in my target with max 2 hits.. trinkets abuser? well.. what other choice to we mages have.

PVE: well..with my dmg gear.. i have +492 dmg.. its no arcanist..and 2 NW items.. and tbh..ill rather have this.. cuz with mixed items u will pull aggro on bosses in bwl.. not becuz u do the most dmg.. but bcuz u hit the hardest, i dont do the most dmg bcuz my mana pool is $%^& for pve

so i rather recommend the entire NW set for all those BWL mages... and the rest. get rings with critt.. get the staff of shadowflame.. thats even more imba then the biggest +dmg items

btw.. atm i use my dmg gear.. i never do below 920 dmg with my frostbolts.. and never below 1000 with curse of elementals on a mob

Comentário de Thottbot

First it ll sometimes take longer for a frost mage 2 kill an enemy but i m frost and when my target is frozen i have a great chance of critting it.
I crit 2k frostbolt i cast faster then firemage and have an elemental thats also +500 minimum.

A firemage with full NW critted me ones 3k. thats cool but i owned him also with this crit. got 2 Frostbolt crits and he was down. ( counterspell - fireward - ice shield ) also we own more easely for mele there is no difference anymore like firemages have AOE scatter shot.

So all depends of your play style

Comentário de Allakhazam

It's also possible that this will drop from a boss in Blackwing Lair.

Comentário de Allakhazam

ur JOKING ME!
im qutting wow now.. all blizzard makes is orange and purple stuff.
/cry
btw how did you get that stuff...

Edit: toned down the hostility :P

To above poster:
I bet it will still be orange though.

Edited, Sat Mar 19 19:24:06 2005

Comentário de Allakhazam

Does anyone have a screenshot of the new graphic for the robe? I know some of you have the screenshot for what the old graphic was..

Comentário de Allakhazam

This link is the all the new Ingame looks for the tier 2s on the bottem of the page,

Note: Netherwind is the second one in the second row of new tier 2 looks.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.co.kr/info/world/underdev/1p9/

Edited, Fri Nov 18 16:07:14 2005

Comentário de Allakhazam

spread the word, pictures of all tier 2 sets can be found on this site

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/1p9/images/general/ss--.jpg

the numbers range from 13-21 (for the -- space)

as in /ss14.jpg

avoid all the broken links from the korean site

Comentário de Allakhazam

This Robe will drop in Blackwing Lair. Leggings drop from Rag, Crown drops from Onyia, other pieces of this set also in Blackwing Lair.

Comentário de Allakhazam

I REALLY want to see the new art for this and ofcourse all the Rag/Ony/BWL tier 2 sets ! :)

I mean the art to Arcanist, Felheart, Earthfury and so on looks awesome and i think that they havent really thought about updated the art on Netherwind bla bla cause it isnt a lot of people wearing it... the art to it will (i know it ) be AMAZING ! :)
my 2 coppers...

Comentário de Allakhazam

can i get a pic of this on a female human

Comentário de Allakhazam

Damn i want this set for my mage, i have a long way to go though, he is level 50 and on a server with pretty low population, but when i get it i'll pwn wildly

Comentário de Allakhazam

This ting is sweet, me want me want! :D

Edited, Tue Nov 29 06:18:40 2005

Comentário de Allakhazam

Yes, after reading about the new raid instance in the "In Development" portion of the main WoW site, I'd guess that a good portion of the epic set pieces that haven't dropped yet drop in Blackwing Lair.

Comentário de Allakhazam

this... set.... must... have...

Comentário de Allakhazam

Updated Graphic: http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/5155/netherwind3ti.png

Comentário de Allakhazam

Netherwind isn't the best set for mages.

edit: When I say set, I mean just a full set of gear, not the blizzard definition of set, ie: set of netherwind.

As a mage, my job on raids, in pvp, and instances, is to do damage. Thus, in order to achieve this goal, maximum +damage gear is the best thing to acquire in order to maximize your potential damage output.

I have near full set of this, and another mage in my guild has full set. With my damage gear on, and his full set of netherwind on, I still outdamage him by 30-40%.

So, its not all its cut out to be.

Edited, Wed Nov 9 17:31:31 2005

Comentário de Allakhazam

This is the best pic for it

http://worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/1p9/images/general/ss17.jpg

Comentário de Allakhazam

Whats this enigma set about ? where do u find that

Comentário de Allakhazam

I could be wrong but I think since this robe isn't in the game yet these stats are wrong and not the recently revamped netherwind stats. My guess is they'll change the fire damage to full on plus damage and add more stat points. They may also add some +mana or something because for something that (presumably) requires a full BWL clearing even with +27 damage it's hardly better than Robe of Volatile Power which can drop off the first boss in MC.

Some mage love, or another depressing "upgrade"? We shall see...

Comentário de Allakhazam

Does anyone knows what is the real completed set buff. In the 1.7 patch note they are talking about a free cast one from netherwind set. Its not suposed to be insta cast chance?

Comentário de Allakhazam

http://www.immortalisguild.org/images/Netherwind-Front.jpg

Comentário de Allakhazam

This and the other netherwind items want aren't released will be dropped in Black Wing lair. This robe will most probably be dropped off Nerfius - onxyia's brother.

Comentário de Allakhazam

its not that great. Looks retarded and their are pleanty of better Easier to get robes **cough** flarecore**cough**

Comentário de Allakhazam

Would be nice to get the Shoulders :o

Comentário de Allakhazam

Undead make gear look like crap. Except Dreadmist... which looks sick.

Comentário de Allakhazam

Or just to make it easy to see by yourself what ostebodega explained

Article on WoWWiki

Comentário de Allakhazam

There are 2 possible drop locations for this that I can think of: Molten Core and Onyxia. It's up to us to figure out which :)

Comentário de Allakhazam

This isn't as good as it should be. Robe of volatile power has higher damage and crit chance. The stats are nice, but the plus to damage and crit should be much better, after all it is supposed to be the best ^&*!ing set in the game......

Comentário de Allakhazam

http://www.internets101.com/netherwind.jpg

Comentário de Allakhazam

The only cool thing looking in that pic is the wand....

Comentário de Allakhazam

hmmm...kick ass look or +15 secs to poly? hmm.

Edited, Mon Dec 19 12:37:31 2005

Comentário de Allakhazam

they really need to change this graphic to the new robe

Comentário de Allakhazam

Wanna see a picture of this robe :S

Comentário de Allakhazam

Onyxia drops tier 2 epic helms, so it's unlikely she drops tier 2 robes as well. Consider the Darkmaster of Scholomance drops all set helms and the General drops all set chests. My only guess would be ragnaros, if it exists at all currently. That leads to the question, however, what would mobs in Blackwing Lair drop? That instance is supposedly going to be harder.

Comentário de Allakhazam

ok well somsone post a pic already.. i know SOMONE has to have it.. maybe someone with an emu server could make a pic for us? =D plz?

Comentário de Allakhazam

Alliance Guild named Drama from Shattered Hand received this and the Trancendance robes after killing him.

Worlds 1st Kill!

Grats Guys

Comentário de Allakhazam

I WANT ME ME ME! I WANT WHOLE SET
god dammit its so nice

Comentário de Allakhazam

now on the official WoW english site they have the tier 2 graphics too so you can just go there lol

Comentário de Allakhazam

i made some fast calculations to find out what the maximum a mage would be able to get in raw power and +spelldmg. this is what i came up with:
Enigma set (head, chest legs, boots and shoulders) + netherwind belt, gloves and wrists + cloak of the broodlord + staff of shadow flame with +30 spelldmg enchant + touch of chaos + zandalarian hero charms and talisman of ephemeral power + band of forced concentration and mindtear band + choker of the firelord would give you a total of:

+890 spelldmg the first shot and decreasing by 35 each additioanl shot for 20 sec. (the toep will have lost its +spelldmg after 15 sec)

Some speculate over wearing 2 ZHCs, but the fact that it says "unique" on them makes me think that speculation is useless. howere this would give a mage +995 spell dmg, decreasing by 70 every shot after the first.

An arcane specced mage with presence of mind and arcane power unstable power would definately benefit the most from this gear, both pvp and pve

i made these calculations hastily so if i made any mistakes feel free to correct me.

Edited, Wed Jan 18 12:44:40 2006

Comentário de Allakhazam

Most of the epic set graphics are basically placeholders atm.

Comentário de Allakhazam

That link is showing an error for me so maybe this will work possibly

http://www.worldofwarcraft.co.kr/info/world/underdev/1p9/

Comentário de Allakhazam

My guess is Ragnaros dropped it. The guild Retribution hath killed Onyxia, Majordomo Executus but got MURDERED by Ragnaros. Check there website for info.

Comentário de Allakhazam

Here's a pic of the full Netherwind suit, for all of you that are curious.

http://www.whataboutpp.com/uploads/netherwind.jpg

Enjoy.

Edited, Tue Mar 8 19:18:40 2005

Comentário de Allakhazam

Full Netherwind set

The tier 2 set used to drop in Molten Core but will now drop in Blackwing Lair when it's released somewhere in the future. Still, Ragnaros drops tier 2 leggins and Onyxia drops tier 2 heads atm. Netherwind set is tier 2 for those who didnt know.

Edited, Tue May 31 02:35:24 2005

Comentário de Allakhazam

Chances are Nefarion will drop the chest.

Comentário de Allakhazam

cool gnome but the robe need some new graphics.. look like mooncloth robe with annother color

Comentário de Allakhazam

Noone got a screenshot of a UD female mage with full set, next patch look?

Comentário de Allakhazam

I dont really think this looks so healthy at undead...

Comentário de Allakhazam

Same here.. is it even in game yet? who drops... MC im almost sure but... who?
i NEED this.. like no other

Comentário de Allakhazam

If you look at the preview pictures on the Blizzard site, the mages are wearing the Netherwind Robes (the white robe)

Comentário de Allakhazam

I'm not a very experienced player, had the game for like 2 months and I'm now lvl 50 (mage).

The netherwind set has until now been then best set for mages, but how about this new enigma set? Is it better?

I've done some calculations:

8 piece netherwind:

Armor: 666

Stats:

Intellect: 159 (2385 mana and +1.59% crit)
Spirit: 69 (13+(69/4)mana/2 sec)
Stamina: 116 (1160 hitpoints)

Resistances:

Arcane: 10
Fire: 40
Frost: 10
Nature: 10
Shadow: 30

Passive:

+DMG:204 dmg
+CRIT:+3% (+1.59 = 4.59% crit)
+HIT:
+mana/5sec: 12

Set bonuses:

3 pieces: Reduces the threat generated by your Scorch, Arcane Missiles, Fireball, and Frostbolt spells.
5 pieces: Increases the radius of Arcane Explosion, Flamestrike, and Blizzard by 25%.
8 pieces: 10% chance after casting Arcane Missiles, Fireball, or Frostbolt that your
next spell with a casting time under 10 seconds cast instantly.

8 piece Enigma/Netherwind(gloves, belt and bracers):

Armor: 699

Stats:

Intellect: 151 (+2265 mana and +1.51% crit)
Spirit: 64 (13+(64/4) mana/2 sec)
Stamina: 139 (1390 hitpoints)

Resistances:

Shadow: 20

Passive:

+DMG:226
+CRIT:+4% (+1.51% = 5.51%)
+HIT: +2%
+mana/5sec:17
Reduced magic resistance on target: 30

Set bonuses:

3 pieces:Your Blizzard spell has a 30% chance to be uninterruptible.
5 pieces:Grants +5% increased spell hit chance for 20 sec when one of your spells is resisted.

As you can see the netherwind set has more mana and more spirit, but the enigma/nertherwind set has more stamina, armor, mana/5sec, crit, hit and dmg.
The netherwind set has also more resistances and you also get the 8 piece set bonus.

As for the 8 piece bonus i'd say its mostly for pvp, and this is supposed to be a pve set, for pvp you can get warlord set etc. And the + hit chance and the -30 resist on target the enigma set gives you is very useful IMO in MC/BWL/AQ because you fight mobs higher lvl than you and you often get resists. A resist is a TOTAL waste of mana, so what im trying to say is that the +2% hit is worth the loss of 120 mana (witch the netherwind gives you). And you also get almost +1% crit more than netherwind with this enigma set. I guess the adittional 22dmg you get also comes in handy :P

IMO the enigma/netherwind is better than the full netherwind set, but then im not very experienced so plz if u disagree, say so.

Any opinions about this? anyone?

Comentário de Allakhazam

http://www.modenstudios.com/atraira/Screenshots/netherwind.jpg

There's what the set looks like with the new graphics on a human female.

Edited, Aug 6th 2006 at 10:44am EDT by atraira

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