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Cheap Shot is the opener that most rogues prefer to use- unless the target is a mage. Mages can blink out of the stun, but are frail enough that an ambush crits usually takes over half their health.

Cheap Shot's leads the stunlock that so many classes hate, and is the foundation of a rogue's strength.

評論來自 Sebas

One of the new rogue abilities that appeal to almost all builds...best opener possible for a stun lock with a chance to give 3 combo points (with initiative) and the stun duration gives you plenty of time to get the other two combo points and get ready for a finisher (most likely kidney shot if you want to keep them stunlocked)

評論來自 8456

a macro FYI
/cast Cheap Shot; stealth

評論來自 kinoki

Rogues love this attack. Tanks do not.

As a tank I can only offer the following advice to all the rogues who love this "opener": please don't when you're in a group. We count on the rage we get from the initial blows to maintain aggro. If they are stunned and people start attacking we'll quickly loose aggro and have to taunt (which has a cool down, contrary to popular belief) the target to regain aggro.

評論來自 62564

With the right talents u can do cheap shot (75% chance for 3 cp) and then backstab (With improved backstab and Seal Flate u get 2 cp) Boom, 5 combo points, then at the of cheap shot, use kidney shot. Thats stun lock.

But if u wanna do dmg: Cheap shot, backstab (Then there is a total 37.5% chance for 5 cp) then w8 to 95 energy, use kidney , then backstab. And backstab again when u got 60 energy.

評論來自 supertao

#1 reason rogues are so....how to put this mildly...

Cheap?

評論來自 85534

This is also useful when used in conjecture with mutilate, and with cold blood and seal fate (all in assassination tree) thats 5 cp right off. Kidney shot and your enemy will be stuned for the whole duration of the fight

評論來自 fundead

i was wondering if cheap shot would give you "entering combat" mode or not? Because i looked in the forum that when 1vs1, rogue can sap the enemy and immediately cheap shot..then wait for like 5 seconds and re-stealth (then do the cheap shot again and start killing). It gives you two additional combo points before the battle, how do you guys think..does it work?

評論來自 148379

Hello,

If You really want to !@#$ someone off try to catch them with insignia on CD (if they use it fun is usually over and you have to fight fair and square :) and use the macro below:

//wont work... blind isnt reseted by prep// edit.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________
/castsequence: Cheap shot, Gouge, Blind, Kidney Shot, Vanish, Sap, Sap, Cheap Shot, Preparation, Blind, Sap, Sap
________________<dps>____DR reset_______<dps>_______DR reset________<dps>____________DR reset________

____________________________________________________________________________________________________
, Ambush/Hemorage, Kidney Shot, Frost grenade (normal if it doesn't share DR with sap), Vanish, Sap, Sap, Cheap
__<some damage>_____<dps>_____5 sec of root/incap__~4 more sec till sap DR reset__________DR reset_____<dp

_________________________
Shot, Kidney Shot. whatever
s>_____<dps>___<see above :>

Taking under consideration the racials ,class, 5% base resist, talents... that combo will more then likely fail at some point, but when it doesn't you just played someone for araund 100 sec xD thats 1 minute 40 sec and soon your blind will be off CD ;)

Of course allot things may go wrong, mage blink (shs and clos will help), locks lolcoil (shs and clos can help...), wars shouts (insignia), priests scream, BM hunter - no chance and other things like war stomp or a hammer of a 5 sec stun, ice block, bubble fct... (shammans are usually screwed unless you started when they were in GW -.-)

You have to be sure that the DR had the 15 sec to reset - it means that your opponet will have many 0.5 - 1 sec "windows" to use the "OH #%#$ button" - try to foresee it ;)

Its unlikely that your opponent is dead after that 100 sec. In the "whatever" part you blow sprint, evasion, clos, and other tools that will assure You will cannibalize his corps or /lol at him (if you have picked wrong char and can be killed ;)

I assumed that:
Sap and Gouge share DR, CH and KS also do share them, and blind is on separate timer from both...

Have fun,
Jonny

P.S. My recommended builds ^^ :

16/3/42
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?tal=0053201050000000000003000000000000000000000005002531002301213401351
0/20/41 - imp evasion, sprint
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?tal=0000000000000000000003030052020050000000000005002531002301213301351
0/20/41 - riposte
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?tal=0000000000000000000003020550100040000000000005002531002301213301351

Play with deadlines and cheat death or other sub talents to tune it to your gameplay.

EDIT!: i overlooked the duble blind part.. i could swear it was on prep reset list.. oh well my post is not valid but you get the hang of 15 sec DR reset fct.. play with it..

評論來自 159821

I was thinkin...

Would it be possible to sap someone, then use your cheap shot so that it doesn't break sap? Then that should leave you enough time while the target is still in sap to restealth, and cheap shot again for 4/5 combo points (depending on spec) without using Preparation.

Dunno, this was just me goin off on a random thought. I don't have a 26 rogue to try this out.

評論來自 182800

my main hand sword attacks every 2.60 seconds and it seems like my sword attacks right as i use cheap shot, so i cant do it, not sure if it was fixed by blizzard

評論來自 79763

In regards to leveling, consider using Garrote instead of Cheap shot. In exchange for 4 seconds less damage taken and making the target unable you block, dodge or parry you deal a significant amount of damage over time.

EDIT: hk47 is right, I meant to edit my post and forgot about it until now.

評論來自 228752

Were is Cheap Shot go in the new tree or is it a move?

評論來自 198069

Useful Pickpocket+Autoloot+Cheap Shot macro

/cast Stealth
/script SetCVar("AutoLootDefault", 1)
/cast Pick Pocket
/in 1 /script SetCVar("AutoLootDefault", 0)
/cast cheap shot

評論來自 337408

I have one small question what's a cheap shot a cheap beer or like the picture a plastic surgery eye corection?

this i a bit off toipic sorry for that

評論來自 409530

I think the icon should have someone kicked in the balls. Makes sense.

評論來自 464789

Reminder:

It's not very expensive :D

評論來自 MadMood

It's a part of my strategy 2 get the highest dmg with ambush:
Stealth+Prem+Shadowstep+Cheap Shot+Blind+Gouge+Vanish+Expose Armor+Vanish+Prep+Shadowstep+Cold Blood+Ambush=A huge Ambush Crit

評論來自 359502

i just hate roges they are dirty deeds and done dirt cheap

評論來自 dreadblood

"cheap" shot is right..

評論來自 SFJake

Anyone else absolutely HATE the icon, to the point that you make a macro for this skill JUST to change it?

I don't know, when I look at it, it annoys me. I can look at lots of things but that? It makes me feel extremely uncomfortable.

評論來自 226304

An interesting aspect to Cheap Shot that I have noticed and tested. It seems, even at quite low levels, Cheap Shot almost seems to always work on level 80 players. Given, you'll probably die horribly soon after, but it still stuns them!

評論來自 208103

'Tis a shame it only awards 2 combo point.

評論來自 Caperon

Used to be the number one opener, but it got rowed down.
It has become a very situational opener, since it now shares diminishing returns with Kidney Shot.

評論來自 864839

Hate rogues but, does this break stealth? If not could u use this at low health on a target several times then recuperate

評論來自 825929

I'm sure other have noticed... there are some NPC enemies which are immune to interrupts on their abilities or such. One would think that they are therefore immune to being stunned by Cheap Shot.
Rather, I have noticed that Cheap Shot will stun the enemy (and thereby interrupt the ability/spell) even when the ability is immune to being interrupted, normally. Fun times.
Just keep in mind that this doesn't work for all enemies - just some which are immune to interrupts or similar but not stuns. As such, Cheap Shot may not be the only ability that would work to interrupt them.

評論來自 Thottbot

The bread and butter Rogue ability.

評論來自 Thottbot

Funny how I complain about being stun-locked to death when I'm playing alts, then I talk about how much I love cheap shot when I play my rogue...

Odd.

*coughuseagainstsquishiesandhealerscough*

評論來自 Thottbot

ok, Im lvl 26 now, I have cheap shot.
so, everyone seems to be saying to just backstab like crazy and then eviscerate. thing is, cheap shot uses 60 energy. I can only put in 1 backstab or so. Apparently, you use cheap shot on everything except maybe warlocks, cuz they can't escape as easy. and on mages you do whatever you are used to. Please, give me some more ideas on effective methods on using cheap shot.

評論來自 Thottbot

if for some reason u dont have enough energy to spam backstab and them eviscerate, use a thistle tea; it restores 100 energy instantly. cheap shot, bs, tea, bs, bs, evisc, dead.

評論來自 Thottbot

My rouge is lvl 60, and is 12/8/31. I use both ambush and cheap shot (both improved) dependeing on target level and armor. Also, I always use ambush if I have remorseless (100% crit chance), and backstab/hemohh instead of SS. BS for DPS, hemohh for combo points, whatever I need more. Clothies usually get ambushed, mobs with higher armor are stunned. Plain easy. Also, backstab is improved, so if I get behind my target, I can damage it quite well, if I have enough energy. Of coures, my setup can be the suckeist of all times, but I like it.

評論來自 Thottbot

I'd think ambush belongs with the hit and run tatic, rather than drawn out kill. Hit and run is way better for group pvp, stunlocking will just get you killed there, at least with hit and run you can quickly rape the hell out of someone then dissapear again. But yeah. I play a warlock, and my rogues level 15, so I know nothing.

評論來自 Thottbot

i used to hate rogues until i played one.

they have so many skills after lvl 30:

cheapshot, blind, kidney shot, gouge, +thisle tea + crippling poison (melee) and wound poison (healer) and kick for casters. probably more stuff, but too many to mention. oh yea, vanish, evasion, sprint, cold blood (assassination), adrenaline (combat), or hemorrage (subtlety).

after playing mage and priest, i hardly ever have any downtime with the rogue. only class i have real problems against pvp-wise are hunters mostly and good warriors sometimes.

on non-cloth, i usally open with cheapshot, then ss, then kite if they are crippled poison, or wait for 75% energy when not, then gouge, backstab, then kite some more, then kidney shot, and two backstabs, and stealth out or expose armor (more pve) if necessary.

on cloth i open with ambush, usually it drains so much hp it's hard to recover.

評論來自 Thottbot

I rly like cheap shot with my rogue (lvl 39 combat rogue) i open on every one with cheap shot coz my ambush sucks i backstab the target while stunned and i do more dmg with backstab than with ambush coz of Improved Backstab i got like 50%chance to crit i just wonder if its possible to cheap shot some one activate adrenaline rush and than spam BS like crazy

評論來自 Thottbot

Use CS as an opener.. hit SS a couple of times and then Gouge. You should now have 5 bubbles on the target. Use Cold Blood Eviscerate. If that does not kill them you can be sure they are near death. So their main concern will not be to kill you but rather to get to a distance or to heal - big mistake.
With my talents I usually crit (guaranteed with Cold Blood) for around 1200 HP... of course depending on the armor of the target. This works well with cloth/leather targets. The damage will be lower against plate.

Ambush would be better against mages as they will just blink out of the cheap-shot effect. So better 2 just get the app. 1000 hp damage on the mage right away - drink a Free action potion and activate sprint = 1 DEAD MAGE!
Its SO funny to watch mages panic when they try to freeze you and you just run straight through. Hell.. you can even laugh all the way untill you get close. When in close - just hit SS a couple of times (and kick/gouge when he tries to cast a spell) then K

評論來自 Thottbot

then Kindney shot. Then you can cry because the fight ended sooo fast.

If he begins to cast sheep just hit Vanish or get hit by it and use the Insignia to break it. Again Sprint is your friend here.

The tactics all vary depending on what type of poison you put on. If I use Deadly Poison (gives me 40% chance to apply it) the time is ticking even if he gets to a distance. And it helps against rouges that tries to vanish.

Always considder using Vanish as an offensive move to get that extra cheap shot in. It works fantastic together with Thistle Tea.

Right now I would say that the toughest opponent for me as a rouge would be warriors with 2h weapons and over-power skill. That kinda hurts a lot. You have to stun-lock them the whole time (or whenever you can). And get the Ripost skill to disarm them. DW Warriors pretty much sucks. You can out damage them any day - their armor is not enough. I usually take on DW warrior of a coulpe of levels higher than myself without any problems.

Lvl 53 rouge.
Lvl 60 Warrior.

評論來自 Thottbot

Ok, as the title goes, use Cheap Shot, wait for energy to charge back up, then gouge, get behind them quick, hit 'em up with a Backstab, then use Vanish, use Sprint Or your Free action potion, which ever is closer to your Vanish (Since you used Backstab, they are out of the stunner now, so they WILL run), Run up behind them, use Ambush, and BAM! Then just do one SS, then hit them with a Eviscerate, then run in front of them (by now sprint should have about 2 seconds left) hit with gouge, Backstab, and if you are at the next SS series, then your fightin a warrior, pally, priest with a PW shield, or a mage with the Mana Shield! And.. imagine if all of those were crits... ZOMG PWNED!

評論來自 Thottbot

i alwaiz cheap shot unless they are low on health or are sitting down which means free garanteed critxD

評論來自 Thottbot

Pair this with Mutilate or Hemo for long stunlocks

評論來自 Thottbot

Speaking from PvP perspective, cheap shot is arguably one of the best openers available to rogues. But the hard part is knowing when to use it, i.e. vs a mage, cheap shot, maybe get off a SS or backstab, then they blink, sprint up to them and kidney shot them and go crazy on their no armor ass. Or ambush crit for 2k+ dmg (I'm level 70 rogue) But a lock I always cheap shot, and stun-lock with gouge, blind ext... (Keep in mind that I ussally sap first to check for succubus if I can't see a pet.) Warriors garrote or cheap shot, druids cheap shot them if they are in a feral form, ambush if they are not. Priest, I cheap shot, hunters- cheap shot, other rogues- cheap shot. Also take note about your talent build, sub spec with imp ambush? Then use that more often, assassination spec with CB (cold blood) and imp kidney shot? But it all depends on the situation at hand, but a rogues greatest advantage in my opinion is the stun-lock, but you may just want to do ultimate burst dps with the ambush, your choice. I hope this helps.

評論來自 Thottbot

Now.. lets see..
How many of you think that the longest simple stun lock is 4 (cheap shot)+3 (kidney shot, or 4second ranked 2 KS)+4 (gouge -5.5 with imp. G) = 11

(if you're higher level, apply your talents, skills such as rank two KS, Mutilate, Seal Fate)

There are lots of different aspects that can affect this, but lets move out of that zone. Let me point you the fact that upon opening with cheap shot, you can use cheap shot again with your target (if he's fully locked and hasn't gotten out of it like warriors) along with this combo.

What my max stun lock time is:
25 seconds.
although I usually leave out one stun lock ability and turn it to an offensive ability.

But thats for stun lock only. And no, there was no use of long CDs used like Vanish, nor preparation. I do have Vigor, although that barely affects the Stun lock time. I'm Assassination specced.

Those of you who say Ambush sucks, you've got much to learn. Ambush is THE only Rogue skill in which you can dish out the maximum damage in a single skill, without any combo points. Possibly if you're lucky, your mutilate would be near this damage.

I'll leave the rest of becoming an expert rogue to your knowledge.

評論來自 Thottbot

Our job as rogues is to deal the most dmg as possible while not taking damage ourselves. The stun allows us to do just that. 4 full seconds to beat on someone before they can beat on me. Once u hit 30, u get kidney shot, which is even more stun time. The only time i will use ambush is on injured clothies, otherwise, CS is the way to go.

評論來自 Thottbot

I love this. CS+SS+gouge+SS+KS+BS=dead enemy

評論來自 Thottbot

Not sure if anyone has posted this yet but... how i personally stun lock which i mainly do against plate wearers is.. I hit them with CS, wait for energy then backstab, then wait for energy again and i do gouge, then SS and kidney shot so i have the 5 sec stun (keep spamming SS and BS), after they are awakened i do gouge (its a lot easier to have duel crippling poisons on, which i suggest) and run away until out of combat and i go into stealth. Once u get close again use CS and repeat above, this usually works and is best against plate wearers cuz they hit so hard u dont wanna take a lot of dmg.

評論來自 Thottbot

Yep, it takes you out of stealth.

評論來自 Thottbot

I'm reading all of these ones that have yellow highlight... Why the hell do u all have SS in there? Switch that with a BS and your good.

Well, it is with my spec at least. (31/0/30) Seal Fate, Improved Backstab in Assn, Initiative, Dirty Deeds in Sub, Any backstab enhancers for dmg
CS+BS+(gouge if needed for 5)+KS+BSx2... vanish/blind and repeat if needed. Also got cold blood evis if needed. Thats a 10 second stun in there.

Takes down all clothies, leather, hunters usually are just about dead.
Against mages, u just pop sprint before opening.

Doovad
70 Rogue
Crushridge

評論來自 Thottbot

WOW WOW WOW XD. all i read was "you sir are a noob" thats totally untrue man u gotta have the point 5 boots and 3 pointer knife duh! no none of that #$%^e, its his spec.
Anyway cheap shot is not locked to a certain kind of rogue, is someone running away? use cheapshot not ambush >:(

評論來自 Thottbot

I think all rogue abilities should be named "Cheap Shot"...

評論來自 Thottbot

hehe i love the rouges who stun lock my war for 7secs only to do less than 15% of my total hp and once it breaks i do 2 hit for greater than 40% lulz @ u !

評論來自 Thottbot

lol your an idiot, 15% in 7sec?, well maybe a green equipped dagger rogue lol,
warrior is the biggest noob char ever thx to arena pvp, most warriors atm can't even tank it's not even funny anymore, seeing s1 equipped warriors who want to tank hero instances with 2h make me wanna scream lol.
warrior should be >rogue, but a well played and equipped rogue will give you a tough fight.
your comment is just stupid, most classes pwn warriors unless they run around with 4 healers behind their back, lawl even my holy paladin can kill those s1 noobs in bg's, arena is a different story

評論來自 Allakhazam

owns in pvp

評論來自 Allakhazam

Does this break sap?

評論來自 Allakhazam

Does this break on damage?

評論來自 Allakhazam

Cheap Shot never fails me when i lvl rogues :) I simply sneak up, Cheap Shot, spam some SS and either Eviscerate or stun em again for 5 sec :)

Cheap Shot ftw!

評論來自 Allakhazam

Is it possible, to cheap shot, vanish, have a thistle tea, and ambush all before the cheap shot drops?
I've not really gone for Cheapshot much at all. I typically go for Ambush if I'm stealthed. Hopefully I'll find how to more usefully apply this skill.
-Schtabby

評論來自 Allakhazam

This does break stealth, it does break sap, damage does not affect it... I suppose you could try to get it to sap as well... as it does a white damage attack almost straight after... but w/e ^^

連結

偷襲

40能量	近戰範圍

瞬發

使目標昏迷4秒，必須在潛行狀態下使用。獎勵2個連擊點數。

魔法增益

法術細節

持續時間

4秒

類型

物理

機制

昏迷中

驅散類型

n/a

GCD目錄

普通

成本

40能量

範圍

5碼 (Combat)

施法時間

瞬發

冷卻

n/a

GCD

1秒

形態

潛行

效果 #1

Apply Aura：Stun
PvP 倍率：1

效果 #2

Add Combo Points
價值：2
PvP 倍率：1

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