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this is similiar to the shadow bolt that these NPCS cast:
Apothecary Falthis
Balizar the Umbrage
Burning Blade Apprentice
Dalaran Conjuror
Dar'Khan Drathir
Dark Strand Adept
Dark Strand Cultist
Fizzle Darkstorm
Frostmane Shadowcaster
Gawanil
Gazz'uz
Ilkrud Magthrull
Licillin
Searing Blade Warlock
Syndicate Shadow Mage
Zevrax

all the details are the same but the yards, warlocks have 30 yards, and these npcs can cast at 40 yards.

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=20791#used-by-npc

Комментарий от 450193

Shadow Bolt VS Incinerate VS Haunt
Sorry I'm not the type to start testing numbers so I don't have exact stats but I hope this part still helps anyways...
Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I'm gladly edit this.

Shadow Bolt cast time 3 (talents: 2.5, without haste)
Might want to consider this if your mostly affliction, I find anyways, it might not crit as hard as Incinerate but it's white dmg is quite superior. If you add the shadow bolt glyph with cataclysm, you looking at the most mana efficient spell from the three. Plus something unique to shadow bolt, NightFall + glyph of corruption that gives you a 4% chance with drain life and 8% chance with corruption to have an Instant Bolt

Incinerate cast time 2.5 (talents: 2.25, without haste)
White dmg wise is not as hard as the Shadow Bolt but it's crit factor when spec destruction is simply amazing.
Make sure immolate is on -> Fire and Brimstone + Firestone + Flame and Shadow + Emberstorm + glyph of Incinerate with 5% extra dmg simply owns if you have a high crit chance.

Additions: These are add-ons that Shadow bolt and Incinerate have since they are destruction spells.
Excluding Haunt = Backlash, Backdraft and Empowered Imp

Haunt cast time 1.5 (without haste)
By far not the strongest of the three but the 20% increase in DoT dmg + life reg. after 12sec is more then worth the talent points. Bad point of view is that there is a cooldown on it, therefore, makes it a little hard to spec completely Affliction. Also Haunt has the fastest casting time from all of them.

Комментарий от 580283

This spell has a quite long casting time for medium damage, and isn't that good compared to mage's bolts, but since it's the only attack you have at low level, you'll have to deal with it.

Комментарий от 468757

Haunt isn't a nuke and should only be cast to maintain the debuff, not when it comes off CD. The more time you spend casting Haunt, the less time you're casting Shadow Bolt. -Kulzseza

Everything about Kulzseza's statement is... sooo wrong. Don't cast Haunt when it comes off CD, you say? I take it you've found a way to cast haunt when it's still on CD then. In reality, Haunt is more-or-less a shadow bolt that casts twice as fast, causes all of your affliction damage to increase by 20%, procs Shadow Embrace, and heals you for a large amount.

In PvP especially, one would ALWAYS want to cast a 1.5 second Haunt, Unstabble Affliction, or Fear over a 3.0 second shadow bolt. The only time one should cast shadow bolt over Haunt as affliction in PvP is when SB becomes instant-cast due to a Nightfall-like proc.

Комментарий от Bakit

Used to be our staple Destruction spell, now Blizz has turned it into nothing more than a cast once for debuff and re-apply to keep the debuff for Destro Locks, and a mediocre filler spell for Aff/Demo Locks. I really wish they'd buff this and not Incinerate, we're Shadow/Fire/Demon casters, not Fire Mages!

Комментарий от 454762

the spell Shadowbolt or incinerate Испепеление can be made instant by backlash

Комментарий от 658350

So wich spell is best fore Demo locks?, is it shadow bolt or ist it incinerate?, incinerate alows youto put 3 points in affliction but cost moore water then shadowbolt, but incinerate is casted faster then Sb. Seems like incinerate is best to spam as demo and destruction. But affliction ofc it's better to spam shadowbolt.

Комментарий от 417037

Look at the screenshots, and tell me those skulls all don't look super happy. I mean, even though grinning is one of the few things skulls do correctly, these shadowbolts are like ":D"
Oh, and Soulburn+Seed of Corruption(Talented) + Glyph of Corruption + Nightfall = Shadowbolt Machine Gun.

Комментарий от Jearper

Affliction warlocks be aware that mastery will not increase the damage of this spell at all, so think twice when choosing your gear.

Edit: Down rating my comment means that you clearly haven't read your affliction mastery description (only dots get bonuses from it).

Комментарий от Kanariya

Slated to receive a new spell effect (animation) in 4.3.

Комментарий от hakwea

Until the screenshot gets approved here is a link to the new shadow bolt graphic for 4.3
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/hakwea/WoWScrnShot_092811_015131.jpg

and a short video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-89Kd1swD4

Enjoy

Комментарий от 997771

In MoP this will only be the filler for Demonology Locks. After lvl 42, Affliction Locks will use Malefic Grasp or Drain Soul, both if which are channeled spells, as their fillers instead. Of course, Destruction Locks still use Incinerate, and will get it at Lvl 10!

As Demonology's filler while in caster form, it's pretty slow and weak compared to other classes' cast-time fillers (Fireball/ Frost Bolt/Arcane Blast, Lightning Bolt, Wrath/Starfire) because it has to be balanced against the damage done by Touch of Chaos, its Metamorphosis counter-part.

It's perfectly adequate in PvE when you can stand still and not worry about interrupts, but rather hard to work with in PvP because of its long cast time.

In PvP you will tend to use Fel Flame as your filler instead, which means Demonology's Caster Form has rather low pressure; again, balanced against its rather dramatic on demand burst potential (although demo's increased pet damage, and its ability to stack several procs of the Molten Core buff and use them to cast hasted Soul Fires while in caster form, together mitigate this problem to some extent). Compare this to Affliction Locks which have superior pressure and inferior burst compared to Demo.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Here's a comparison:

DRUID'S Wrath: 12-14 damage (20 mana, 1.5 sec)
SHAMAN's Lightning Bolt: 13-15 damage (20 mana, 1.5 sec)
WARLOCK'S Shadow Bolt: 12-16 damage (25 mana, 1.7 sec)
PRIEST'S Smite: 13-17 damage (20 mana, 1.5 sec)
MAGE'S Fireball: 14-22 damage + 2 damage over time (30 mana, 1.5 sec)

Комментарий от Thottbot

lol he just pointed out the DPS of the 1st rabks of their nuke abilities

Комментарий от Thottbot

ur right :s why bother reading the post fully if you can just flame the guy before you

Комментарий от Thottbot

Yeah... That's why good warlocks only use shadowbolts during nightfall proc.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I've had a lot of Warlocks since release and remade one again after a long absence. I really forgot just how sucky Shadowbolt is.

I currently have a lvl 19 Warlock, which is a lvl before you get a new SB. But the SB I have does:

48 to 56 Shadow damage at 2.8 seconds cast.

I have as a wand Cookie's Stirring Rod, which is a blue item, level 17.

20 - 38 Arcane Damage Speed 1.30
(22.3 damage per second).

So for 0 mana, no interrupts, I can do more damage than my current SB on average.

If you have a good wand, you simply don't need SB unless you are using it in conjunction with other spells/talents/whatever.

(I will note that next level's SB will then out damage my current wand. And it will take some levels to find a better one. However, the wand still has no mana needs, and can't be interrupted, and activates MUCH faster than SB. Which is great when combat is shifting around -- no need casting SB at something that's dead.)

If you're making a Warlock to be a direct damage dealer, you're going to be disappointed. They have pets and damage over time. Make a Wizard if you want DD.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I put it this way at 70 when a Most Warlocz go Destruc demo there burst dps is a lil more over the magez i seen in all my raiding and no mage has ever beat my rogue in dps but warloc destruc demo spec have

Комментарий от Thottbot

While I cannot argue about whether warlocks are better than mages (since they both have their specific advantages/disadvantages) I wish to point out a few points;

Mana isn't necessarily an issue with warlocks, as they have Life Tap (as well as Drain Mana, but I won't mention that to save for time). After they Life Tap they can Drain Life, use a potion, bandage, wear that one Shadoweave set that can replenish their life as they cause shadow/frost damage (I'm mainly speaking of the shadow part), Or, if they're Destruction, they have a chance to replenish their life upon doing damage.

But back to the topic; Shadowbolt. This move isn't as bad as people say it is. Yes, I can see the advantage of getting a 4% chance for an instant cast SB, the 16% one in Destruction isn't too bad either...and if you DO go Destro, it's possible to have enough points left over to get Nightfall. Now, I'm not a major warlock player (36 lock so far), I know the good in them. Though it was not necessarily meant for warlocks to out-DPS mages, they CAN. When they specialize Destruction. Yes, it's true (I've seen it, quite fascinating). It helps not to judge warlocks before one levels one to 40, when they start to get the REALLY nice moves (Death Coil ftw for warlocks; ftl for anyone fighting them). Not to sound like a jerk, but I think some of us here need to re-cehck our info; warlocks can DPS under the right circumstances, and I would say I'd rather have a warlock in my group than a mage if they could a.) create water, and b.) not proc a chance to summon a doomguard by using Curse of Doom. Eep.

Warlocks are just as 'ftw' as any other class. Thank you.

Комментарий от Thottbot

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