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Комментарий от eee1e

О перекрестной бдительности типа воин Танк - воин Танк.
3.3.5а WоTLK
ЦЛК 10 об., Король-Лич

На первой фазе МТ обменивается с ОТ бдительностью, это позволяет таунтить адов сразу по их появлении, очень удобно.

Before it was called the possibility of two tanks warriors each using that talent in the other. Then came the reduction of threat.

For useful in my view.
5% of dodge for those who have on average 4.47% does not seem much.
Remember that need not always be used ho healer. Perhaps a offtank have enough time to generate threat even with this reduction of 10%.
Or perhaps that bookin flat

Комментарий от MeanMachine

Who needs threat on a tauntable boss? Imagine 2 warriors fighting for aggro - taunt, taunt, taunt, taunt, taunt, taunt .... you get the picture.

Комментарий от 1262

It seems like this spell will be cast by the tank on a high threat melee dps raid or group member, so if they overaggro the tank can more easily get it back

Комментарий от Archdmon

This is useful on raid members who are known to have aggro issues.

However it trully shines in 5 mans more.

Комментарий от Romith

I can see this skill being very useful for Tank transition fights like Black Temples Bloodboil.

Cast Vigilance on current tank. The 10% threat reduction will allow you to catch up and the 5% dodge will help keep them alive.

The taunt cooldown is not the important part of the skill the 10% threat reduction is.

Комментарий от 73562

Whoever argues this is a worthy 31 pointer and a good PvE talent for prot warriors, congratulations you have the IQ of a toaster.
The talent will be removed/changed before beta goes live.

Комментарий от 73142

I personally love this ability and am glad that it is utterly useless against another prot warrior bouncing his Vigiliance off of you and yours on him. Seemed really cheap and too much of a give away. We got 5% dodge from talents finally, and we all know how the designers hate to give out percentage based talents period. 10% was overdone, 5% just right and, as this is the last likely permanent source of threat reduction (excluding others' talents), the choice on who it is applied to should rightfully exist with the warrior tank.

No one else notices as much of the pulling of "de aggroz" as the tank who is in pursuit of the thing currently chasing some overzealous dps class. So it is now in our full power to fix that problem. Sure it's only one person in the 25 people of the raid, but I've never seen a situation where 2 dps classes recklessly pull threat like it's cool.

P.s. Recommend it on your ranged dps only, a melee dpser would either die in the time span that you realized the mob wasn't on you or would live an attack and you'd be able to taunt the mob in question anyway.

Комментарий от Greyson

For five-mans, I think this ability will have a lot of potential. Given that you may only have one healer, this virtually guarantees that they (or your over zealous DPS class) will never be long with a target on them. Even if they have a group of targets on them, you can chain taunt them off.

Комментарий от 78102

"Focus your protective gaze on a group or raid target..."
What does the "group" portion of this spell refer to since "This effect can only be on one target at a time"?

Комментарий от 152066

It will be good to put on the aggro wh0re in your party, or the healer in grp pulls

Комментарий от Benderbot

It's like a "Get head out of ass, free!" card for your 5 man pugs.

Комментарий от 172710

i just don't get it.

what is changing in WotLK that is going to make keeping threat so difficult that one would need this many taunts?

Комментарий от Korasoff

This ability has been changed to reduce all damage taken by the target by 3% (yay) and now transfers 10% of threat generated to the Warrior, which is pretty amazing. If you've got a smart DPSer who knows how to ride the aggro line he can actually help you do your job as a tank! Or just pop it on a Hunter who can Feign Death to wipe his own aggro...

The Taunt refresh is just icing on the cake. :)

Комментарий от Tamika

If you like running heroics bind this somewhere close to your fingers. Best used with improved intervene/Shockwave.

Melee class aggroes several mobs off you: Put vigilance, start taunting, if his/her HP goes low throw Shockwave
Caster Class aggroes several: Intervene (30% less dmg), vigilance, start taunting, if his/her HP goes low throw Challenging Shout

Комментарий от 172710

you could also use it to switch tanks.

say there's an untauntable boss you have to have use a tank rotation on. tank A starts off, while tank B rides fairly close behind. just a bit before it's time to switch, tank B uses Vigilance on Tank A and starts using everything he's got to boost his theat. viola! with tank A no longer producing 10% of his threat, and tank B gaining it instead, switches should be cake.

Комментарий от cromer

Why is there no emote, sound, or animation of any kind when you buff somebody with this?

It's a great buff to put on your healer or whoever, but they never know you did anything unless you tell them. Show some pizazz will ya Blizzard?

Комментарий от 233740

The tool tip says, "Focus your protective gaze on a group or raid target,..." So how do you focus on a group?

Комментарий от 57642

Does this work for pvp damage?

I asume it does, so it would be worth it to cast on party just for the 3% reduction.

Комментарий от 91451

The official tooltip on Blizzard's talent calculator is different.

Now gives 5% dodge and 10% less threat to the person its applied on. Kind of 'meh' now.

Комментарий от 15086

I prefer when the protected target being hit, generates rage instead of refresh taunt cooldown.

It helps the weakness of protection warrior which is not being hit.

Комментарий от BioAndroid

Absolutely loved this talent last night.

I play a shadow priest and we were doing Malygos last night, our tank was having serious trouble keeping up threat due to the fight's mechanics.

He remembered he had this buff and placed it on me, it was wonderful since s.priests still don't have a permanent threat reduction ability like mages/hunters/warlocks, it kept my threat in check and put him quite a ways in the lead.

Definitely a good talent to place on your high threat classes, especially shadow priests, who have no permanent threat loss abilities as it will really help both of you do your jobs better.

Комментарий от Korasoff

I hadn't heard this, can anyone confirm if the threat transfered to the warrior is also left with the target that Vigilance is on?

Drajanuma said that it isn't a simple aggro loss anymore, meaning that when two Warriors use Vigilance on each other, the threat transfers going both ways cancel each other out (assuming the two are generating roughly the same TPS) -- had it still been an aggro loss instead of a transfer, then the Warriors would have just nerfed each other's threat by 10% by casting Vigilance on each other.

However, when Vigilance is used on anyone else, it is still -10% threat for that person, and the threat removed is granted to the Warrior.

Комментарий от holydeadpenguins

So many warrior tanks I've run into pop this on the healer, even when the dps is pulling aggro constantly. Simply putting this on the top dpser would solve all the problems.

Комментарий от jblase03

If you are another tank and you don't want this on you, simply right click the buff twice and its gone.
Sadly I have found several warriors who think the druid main tank should be generating less agro.

Комментарий от andrwarrior

Confirmed that this does *NOT* stack with the 3% dmg reduction on Blessing of Sanctuary, Vigilance will overwrite it.

Комментарий от VerasGunn

As of Patch 3.0.8 this spell now has an animation when casted on a targed. It will show several shields revolving around the target that gets it, similar to the Lavanthor's Talisman trinket.

Комментарий от smiley001

As a druid MT I'm loving this :)

I consider myself quite predicate when it comes to classes I dont play myself, although I seem to have totally missed this little gem making its way into the prot. tree!

At first glance I thought "huh, what the? hey! thats my threat! :(", but after giving it some thought I came to the conclusion that both the 3% dmg reduction as well as the 10% threat transfer account for a win-win situation.

With the huge innate threat bonus tanks got since WotLK, threat is never really an issue as MT, if you know what you're doing. The 3% damage reduction is a true blessing considering the total damage a tank takes (you could even argue that the 3% less damage slightly reduces healer aggro due to less healing needed)

But also the 10% threat transfer can be a great help to make sure the OT manages to stay second on an aggro list, even more so when the boss at hand can wipe all aggro.

Комментарий от 34511

This talent now has an animation, shields poping up and turning around the target. Also note that it will make people stand up when buffed. So if you wanna have fun with mages and priest or whoever needs to regen, just keep buffing them around ;)
Remember that if they are eating crafted food, and they didn't get their buff yet, the food will be lost ;)

Anyway, back to the serious stuff, this talent would have been awesome for some fights like ebonroc in BWL.

This talent is very powerfull for those who know how and when to use it. Depending on the situation you can use it as a aggressive tanking tool, or as a defensive tanking buff.

I usually buff my top DPS with it, ensuring that they can DPS even more due to the extra aggro I get from them. But there are some fights where you really want to protect someone that will grab aggro. I can remember the panther aspect from zul gurub where it would have been awesome to have this talent ;)

For those who feel like it, you can create a macro that will send a whisper to the protected target ;)

Комментарий от DSitC

This spell is absolutely golden if you are tanking multiple adds as an off tank. Sartharion + Drakes is a great example for this.

Simply buff your maintank with Vigilance and you'll be able to enjoy your Taunts without cooldown. Just perfect for keeping those adds focused on you. ;-)

Комментарий от 110805

Does anyone know it you can apply this during a fight?

Last night our OT (tankadin) took agro with one of his spells and I was unable to taunt/mocking blow the boss off of him. So I tried to put Vigilance on him during the fight. But my taunt still had a CD. Can anyone confirm this please.
-cummins-

Комментарий от 151626

It's key to remember that this talent has THREE components to it. It's actually pretty versatile. By default I usually stick it on a dps, often a pesky mage for the threat. However there are times when threat isn't the problem, damage is. At these times I'm more likely to put it on a melee dps who may take a lot of damage if they don't get away enough. Would I put it on a healer? Absolutely. Take Culling of Strathlome for example. Tones of annoying small things that continuously mob your healer. Refreshing your taunt allows you to pull these things off of them at range while continuing to tank the bigger stuff.

I'm not sure why people just stick this on one person and leave it. I'm putting it on different people all the time depending on the context of the next pull.

Комментарий от Nzall

this is also a great aid for warriors tanking the small adds (whelps/fire elementals) on sartharion0/1/2/3. just pop it on your sarth tank. he will get hit often (especially if he is a druid tank), refreshing your taunt every single time, effectively giving unlimited taunts.

this also can help on things like add tanking on razorscale, mimiron, thorim arena and kologarn. just slap it on a tank you know will be hit often.

Комментарий от flopfaint

In 3.3 it says it transfer -10% of the threat they cause to you

Комментарий от Midgetizer

If you never let it drop off your target, it becomes CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

Комментарий от Enquillion

All things being equal, I'll keep putting this on my healers to cover their asses, so when they have to heal up a DPSer who pulled aggro from not managing their threat they won't pull aggro themselves.

When you're old and sitting with your grandchildren, regale them with the story of that one time that Vigilance made the difference between a healer getting aggro or not.

Additionally, generally it's damn well your responsibility to optimize your TPS by putting this on the best DPS'er. Your TPS goes down, raid DPS goes down. And the profit is what? You want to teach them that you're dumb?

Комментарий от Kaylthas

Wow.

RIP vigileance, now a useless talent for non-pvpers.

I'm sure gonna miss my free threat.

Комментарий от 476434

In its current form it no longer transfers extra threat to you. It still reduces the damage taken of the target and still causes the cooldown on your taunt to be reset when they take a hit but to replace the threat transfer it now causes hits they take to keep your vengeance ability (one of the passive abilities granted for being protection spec) rolling where as without it the vengeance buff to your AP would fall off during tank switches. Very useful in raiding, but i find it less useful in 5 mans now. If you have this in a five man toss it on your healer imo for best results.

Комментарий от Ganbantein

This is actually a great ability to pick up for prot-pvp players when doing premade bgs.
give vigilance to your healer or anyone who's being focused on and you get vengence bonuses which will increase the damage of your shield slam.
this tactic is best used with 2 other healers

for pve tanking, without the threat transfer, it's not as useful as before but the reduction and taunt refresh are still good
besides it's only 1 talent point so pick it up

Комментарий от 303818

While you've very right in pointing out the pvp utility, in pve Vigilance as it stands is pretty much next to useless unless you're in a raid.

In a raid, they could be many situations where fighting is occurring over a long time and the taunt refresh could be very useful indeed by picking anyone (does not have to be the healer) who may get hit often. In addition you get a very nice Vengeance bonus for the trouble.

However, in all other pve situations, i.e. dungeons, its not that useful at all unless you're the kind of tank who routinely either loses aggro or has one or more in a group who likes being hit! In addition, even at low levels things die fast. So, this talent is situational at best and a total waste of a talent point at worst.

For pve, the previous stun talent (Concussion Blow) is also not useful in pve tanking because its damage and threat cannot even compare to a simple Heroic Strike and its cost is the same as the much higher threat Devastate or even Sunder Armor ability. As a pve utility the chance you *need* two interrupts back to back (the other from Shield Bash) before the target is dead is also very low. Don't forget that most bosses are immune from stuns and also interrupts in many situations. So, at best it would be situational or you would be using it on trash where damage is not high enough to care about damage reduction from the single stunned mob not hitting you.

Maybe come Cata proper, Concussion Blow will have more uses due to the need for CC or possibly while levelling outside in the world as prot. But will it be worth a talent point if all other classes can also CC or stun in dungeons? We'll see.

In short, you can save yourself two talent points by not speccing into either if the majority of the time you are running dungeons - especially while levelling or gearing up in the endgame.

Комментарий от 232944

The only utility I have found for this talent is when add tanking on various fights in raids (Maloriak, Nefarian) Simply just place Vigilance on the boss tank and you have free taunts.

Комментарий от 303886

cant agree more whit Hykon over me here, from what i can see in the warr talents and spells is they have got some nice Off-tank abilitys, place this on the tank main tank and he lose less health and u will have free taunts to pick up adds all the freaking time, its just the same whit the Sentinel buff u get when you special in Prot, 50% more rage when not tanking it.. my brain goes all offtank here

Комментарий от Superchief

I'm long ways away from being able to tank adds on Nefarian let alone set foot in that raid so... yeah I'll be dropping this useless ability for a filler talent like Heavy Repercussions or Cruelty.

Комментарий от 316016

I aggree with Xbowhyena in this. An example is the fight with Azgalor. While tanking, you must always be sure that your taunt is off the CD, in case you have to take aggro to turn the boss around to the second group. In other cases, this talent can be used to take aggro from an over-geared DD who deals too much DPS. I understand that it's his problem, but "you pull - you tank" is not an option in Cata HCs, that's why I used this point while in a RHC with an arcane mage in tier 11 HC - he dealt too much damage and didn't bother to use omen, so I had to be sure that taunt is always ready. Otherwise - this point is a waste. But only otherwise.

Комментарий от Carnella

This talent has been stealth-nerfed over quite a few patches. The threat transfer disappeared, then the 3% damage disappeared, then the threat reduction disappeared altogether.

As it stand now, I only use it for the highest threat DPS in the group in case they pull aggro and take a hit while taunt is on CD.

It doesn't seem to trigger from indirect or AoE damage. It may be solely direct-damage.

In a two-tank raid situation, it keeps your taunt up and keeps your vengeance from completely nose-diving down to 0 when you switch aggro. Keep it on the other tank, it's a nice damage boost since warrior damage in prot is terrible without vengance and even worse when you're not the one getting hit to generate rage.

In PVP, I suppose it would be nice if you placed it on someone getting zerged before they die? I don't know anyone who does pvp in prot though.

Комментарий от 735543

If the Prot War dmg isn't going to be anywhere near any of the other Tank classes than they need to bring back the 3% damage reduction.

Or give us back the HS/Cleave damage bonus in the Arms talent tree.

Комментарий от AstroZombie

Vigilance is now strictly used to refresh Taunt's CD and to stack Vengeance faster. Gone is the Threat transfer and the 3% damage reduction. If you ask me, it's not even worth the point now. Except in PvP situations if you happen to be Prot PvP.

Комментарий от chop360

This is now pretty lame. Used to reduce damage taken by 3% and transfer 10% threat to the caster and reset the casters taunt when hit. Now it it gives you some vengence rubbish as if 20% of the damage that was done to the bearer was done to you.

It's only real use now is to cast it on the other tank during a raid for quicker taunt switches, it also allow the warrior to be the only tank that can gain vengeance without being hit. So don't think about spending a talent point in it before you're raiding.

Комментарий от Froswaldthegreat

Little tidbit in case some don't know, as of 4.3 Vigilance in PvP can still grant you Vengeance, place it on the healer in a BG and you can easily double your AP

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