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Comentado por Bloodsword

I cannot fully describe the awesomeness of this talent. Multi-hit mangle, adrenaline rush and cc immunity in one instant cast move. It even has a relatively small cooldown; what more could you want?

Comentado por 7874

I don't think this will be a issue because of the reduction in energy cost in cat, but i'm wondering if powershifting will cancel out the effect ?

Comentado por Archdmon

Just what Druids needed, other classes' cooldowns XD

Comentado por Psychopath

This is actually a two-edged sword because when you could possibly need these 30% of health, you don't really need that cleaving effect, and vice-versa. And if you're feared, you might not need these 30% of extra health(which can turn out to an even worse situation: warlock fears you, puts lots of dots on you and right when the dots bring you down to like 50% the buff expires, you're probably under 20% of health. and with warlocks having a talent that gives em more dmg to low hp people, this can become hairy. :) but these are all just pipe-dreams ^^) respectively the cleaving effect, meaning that you will have to choose which of these effects you will want to kinda waste, since berserk has a rather high cooldown and a rather short duration...

just my opinion of this spell :)

Comentado por Rarehunter

Druids were hard enough to kill already. Now they can last stand in Dire Bear Form and utterly own everyone. Well. Grats, I guess.

Comentado por 50427

make sure you are not near any cc. your about to die, hit berserk, wake up 2 more mobs

Comentado por Lukian

Given as we can't have both Berserk and Omen of Clarity at level 70 when patch 3.0 hits before Wrath's release, I've done some quick maths (quite likely to be wrong) to compare the energy gains from the two.

Omen of Clarity - 371 attacks (300 white, 71+ special) in 5 mins * 6% proc = 22 clearcasts * 40/42 energy
= 924 (shred) or 880 (mangle) energy gained.

Berserk - (at best) 10 special attacks halved in cost = 10 * 42/2
= 210 (excessive powershifting / use of Tiger's Fury & King of the Jungle talent) energy gained.
or (at worst) 7 special attacks
= 147 energy gained.

Not that great for sustained Kitty DPS, but fantastic for CC removal and burst damage in arena.
Also a brilliant "last stand" addition to Dire Bear.

Comentado por Zanny

Berserk fills in 4 holes with 1 talent for feral druids -

1. Lack of a shield wall bear form ability. Since bear druids usually have 130% a prot warriors health while tanking, berserk will lead to a much larger hp cushion than last stand for warriors. It should work perfectly for 20% bosses that enrage.

2. AOE tanking ability. On some AOE pulls, ferals can not keep up with aoe spam to hold aggro, but once every 5 minutes a feral druid can aoe tank very effectively (maul / mangle / swipe constant spam while tab targeting) on some brutal mob pulls.

3. Cat form now has a burst button. 15 seconds of 21 energy shred is delicious.

4. PVP, and an oh !@#$ button that breaks all the CC that terrorizes feral pvp. Of course, since you cant shift out after using berserk its also a handicap to prevent you from just being a BM hunter spamming 80 abilities while being unmanageable.

Comentado por 178846

anyone can tell me whether the buff still exist if i change form like bear>cat or bear>humanoid? i really appreciate that :P

Comentado por ADneo

they need to reduce cooldown of this to say 3min, 5 min for 15sec is too short, and we will have to rely on this ALOT in arena

Comentado por 64343

Note that it says "Berserk instantly clears all effects which cause loss of control of your character, and makes you immune to them for the duration while in Cat Form, Bear Form, or Dire Bear Form."

This means, it removes fears, stuns, sleeps etc. and makes you immune to THEM, but during Berserk you're still vulnerable to all kinds of snares and movement impairing effects.

This talent just went from EXTREME to something good in my eyes atleast. Talking PvP wise that is.

Comentado por 183547

is Berserk a frenzy effect?

considering a hunter using tranquilizing shot

Comentado por druidpower

Awesome talent to tank multiple targets
In cat this is an incredible dps boost and you will have a hard time to not get 5 combo points again with a rip still in half its duration.
additional notes;
This ability WONT break stealth when using it in cat form.
This ability WONT fade when shifting out of your current form.
You need to be in cat form/dire bear/bear form to activate the ability.

Comentado por 216093

Wao!

There mustve been alot of Feral love..
3 min CD now, and the "Last Stand" bear effect was removed-
But there's a new 11pt talent!
Survival Instincts

Finally a reason for me to get some feral gear now, so i can pewpew in cat when Wotlk Hits!

Comentado por nemoolcay

I dont know why u get so exited because u dont even get the half of the talents/spells of the initial berserk ability as the first commenter wrote. 30% hp in same talent with 3min cd lost, as i remember maul was hitting to 3 mobs that u lost it too, clears all cc effects and makes u immune to them --> u only have fear immunity now.
So while thinking warlock metamorphosis talent we only get an ordinary lvl 60 spell or something for bear form, cat form still same. but u lost the tigers fury ability for cat form also.

Comentado por 42833

I'm sick of PvP talents all over the place. Protection Paladins and Warriors get imbalanced and really fun talents for their tanking at their last tier, but we get this piece of %^&* which is a copy of AR and bestial wrath? Whoo tanking is going to be so much fun now that I have a skill to press every 3 min to do absolutely NOTHING when tanking a boss!

Comentado por Wooohooohooo

Assuming a Tank Druid is properly geared & well played, combined Berserk with Challenging Roar…& what other talents, sustaining Tanking agro should be very effective.

Comentado por 88189

Note: Activating Berserk with Mangle (Bear) on cooldown will not remove the cooldown.

Comentado por 63385

Ooooo, found a "glitch" with Berserk, hope someone can confirm. Berserk is NOT making me immune to Death Coil fear effects.

<<CONFIRMED - 11-2-08>>
Blizz confirmed that Death Coil is exempt from Berserk's fear-breaking ability since it is a horror effect and not a fear effect.

What's next? Scare effect? Frightening effect? Spooked effect? I mean come on, how many different ways can we get around the wording on an ability?

Comentado por 196098

Ok, I haven’t played as a feral tank since 2.1 but from what I remember of tanking this doesn’t seem as amazing for a bear as some of the other tank's 51 pointers. From what I have read bears have plenty of AE threat now so the target limit isn’t that big of a deal. The CD removal on mangle is nice but for its 12% uptime so every three minutes that is approximately 11 extra mangles, assuming rage allows for it and it most likely wont unless it is a boss which will make the extra target aspect useless. Mangle is a fairly high threat ability so it would be logical for me to assume between 12 and 15k threat (this is most likely high since I’m assuming 2k white dps, but I am not sure about the dps increase at 80 and I would rather be high than low), for a net gain of around 75 tps. Assuming dps scaled up equal to our tank's then they should be between 3-4k dps. Blessing of Salvation was removed so it should be safe to assume 3.1k tps at max for dps. Blizzard stated tanks will be able to hold their own in dps come wrath so it should be safe to assume the tank above does around 3.5k dps; this is approximately 4k tps so this talent will give a gain of less than 2% threat. Now as it is we should be around 25% higher threat than the dps, so if we skip this talent we could go with a 0/50/21 build allowing us a large amount more utility, something druids are meant to have. If you did go with a 50/21 spec then it would be possible to get NS and allow for a well timed bres on a healer or a 5+ heal that could crit (2.5k threat also on a 3min CD so we make some of the lost threat back). the heal+a pot could heal for over 15k assuming crits, and from what I’ve heard the highest health anyone's achieved without gimping for it in t7 content was 28k so this would heal for over 50% of your max health. I’m not saying this will be the ideal build for a min/max hard core guild, but it might help on progression (Brutallus for example: at 15% a burn hits a mage who isn’t paying attention. Instead of it being a wipe from the mage spreading it to a healer and the healer dieing the tank could emergency bres the dead healer, next swing cycle he could throw out a innervate if the healer couldn’t use a pot or come up with a innervate from another raid member).

If anyone wants to check my math or give feedback on my numbers please do. I don’t have links from blizzard stating tanks will do better damage, and most of the dps numbers I came up with are not based off anything except a few WWS's I could pull up. Also I cannot check anything on live since my game time is expired. Thank you for reading this wall of text, and I'm sorry if there are any grammatical errors

TL; DR
Berserk may not be worth it imo
~Aetamoond of Dethecus

Comentado por qhiiyr

Although you cannot use tiger's fury while berserk is active, you can use berserk while tiger's fury is active.

Comentado por 226334

Inc. Nerf

They are now reducing number of targets when Mangle is active in Bear Form from 3 to 1.

Source- Berserk now hit up to 1 target instead of 3. (Error ?)
Link

Maybe,its a bug...It says (Error?) at the end of it. I hope so,it IS indeed an error. :)

Comentado por 201971

i have found that u can take most people out with this combo before they can attack u i dunno if im the 1st one to make it up im prolly not but heres a way to take out almost anyone

ok 1st u have to have the imp shred glyph and the talents that make shred better next sneek up on a alli / horde then when ur in range of pouncing pop beserking pounce them mangle shred untill theres 1 second left on pounce then pop maim. (u dont need to throw the mangle in there but it hlps a lil). then keep shredding i only have a few feral epics like a belt and gloves and leggs and i can do 16k ( i have crappy gear atm) with this combo its truely devistating.
the only hard parts are getting behind the target and getting maim off @ the right time. due to the new patch this combo isnt going to be as great.

Comentado por 142060

One of the best way to use this on bosses is: Mangle, rake, shredx3, Rip, mangle, savage roar, tiger fury (with 3 points in KoJ) berserk, mangle and spamm shred

Comentado por 211544

God I absolutely LOVE the sound effect on this one.

It's like: ''Ok I've had it, cut the cheesy talk and what so ever, but YOU DIE NOW!''

Comentado por hypehuman

Don't forget that when you're tanking, this can be used to apply the Infected Wounds debuff to multiple targets quickly for extra control and mitigation.

Comentado por 328278

Modified by https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=45601

Comentado por Sounder

During Berserk, Bite should be used as a CP dump when both SR and Rip have long duration remaining (10+ secs).
vs.
During Berserk, Bite should not be used as it empties Energy and leads to yellowattack downtime, wasting the 50% savings. Instead, just Shred-spam as long as SR/Rip/Rake are going.

Assume 5/5 Rend and Tear but 0/5 Feral Aggression

Discuss.

Comentado por spoonness

As of 01/25/10 (Patch.3.3.0a would be 01/24/10 in the USA) Berserk now removes Tiger's Fury.

EDIT: Also very good for AoEing with Swipe (Cat)

Comentado por 340402

Can Berserk be dispelled by hunters https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=19801 ?

Comentado por 629499

Cataclysm, is the first description stated a passive which is up 100% of the time?
Your Lacerate periodic damage has a 30% chance to refresh the cooldown of your Mangle (Bear) ability and make it cost no rage.
Because it seems a bit useless that, when active, it has no cooldown and there is a chance of refreshing the cooldown of mangle.

Comentado por 395672

For those of you who are looking to set up NTK or the like to track the Berserk proc effect, that would be https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=93622

Comentado por 642002

OMG ç_ç no longer break fear and no longer make immune to fear........ /delete or change spec

Comentado por 783334

Since patch 4.0.6 the proc chance has been increased from 30% to 50% per each tick of Lacerate, and has a new Spell Alert identifier, but it no longer clears fear effects or makes you Immune to them( such as Medo Grito Psíquico etc. ).
Also, it still remains undispellable.

Comentado por butcher098

Question: When the Proc happens from Lacerate, does Mangle hit 3 targets as well?

Comentado por Stealthfire13

For those curious:

"The name berserker arose from their reputed habit of wearing a kind of shirt or coat (Old Norse: serkr) made from the pelt of a bear (Old Norse: ber-) during battle."

Pretty fitting name for a bear ability.

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Berserk

Berserk

Talento

Instantâneo	3 min de recarga

O dano periódico da sua habilidade Lacerar tem 50% de chance de recarregar sua habilidade Destroçar (Urso) e fazer com que ela não custe Raiva.

Além disso, sua habilidade Destroçar (Urso) não terá tempo de recarga e acertará até 3 alvos. Reduz em 50% o custo de energia de todas as habilidades em Forma de Felino. Dura 15 sec. Você não pode usar Fúria do Tigre enquanto Berserk estiver ativo.

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Berserk

Destroçar (Urso) pode atingir até 3 alvos sem tempo de recarga. Reduz em 50% o custo de energia das suas habilidades na Forma de Felino.
15 segundos restantes

Detalhes do Feitiço

Duração

15 segundos

Escola

Físico

Mecânica

n/d

Tipo de dissipação

n/d

Categoria GCD

n/d

Custo

Nenhum

Alcance

0 metros (Self)

Tempo de lançamento

Instantâneo

Recarga

3 minutos

GCD

0 segundos

Efeito nº1

Apply Aura: Modifies Power Cost (14)
Valor:-49%
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1
Feitiços Afetados:

Rasgar	Garra	Estraçalhar
Despedaçar	Assolar	Acovardar
Pulo do Gato	Mordida Feroz	Mutilar
Destroçar	Investida Feral	Rugido Selvagem
Patada	Estouro da Manada	Estouro da Manada
Esmagar Crânio	Esmagar Crânio	Assolar!

Efeito nº2

Apply Aura: Modifies Cooldown (11)
Valor:-99 milisegundos%
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1
Feitiços Afetados:

	Destroçar

Bandeiras

[Is Ability]
Não quebra a furtividade
Não gera Ameaça
[No AutoCast (AI)]
[Not In Spellbook Until Learned]
[Reset cooldown upon ending an encounter]

Berserk

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