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Comentario de raventears

Searing Pain is a very situational spell. Although it is great to have another fire spell, this also bumps up your threat very high, and threat is something that warlocks cannot mess around with. Definately not meant to be spammed.

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Comentario de gefthi

Searing pain is to be used primary in two occasions.

- During twin emperors fight at AQ40 if you are the tanking lock and need to draw aggro quickly

- At battlegrounds where casting 2.5second spells can be impossible.

Comentario de 31067

Searing pain for a destro lock has a very unique function - if one has talented Improved Searing Pain... because that will give you an extra 10% spellcrit for this spell

at lvl 70 it easy to get at least 20% spellcrit via gear and such - add to that the 5% from Devastation... and of course ruin

now you got a spell with 35% spellcrit

at 1.5 cast - thats VERY powerfull... (and then if you have points in Emberstorm too all the better)

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Comentario de 27894

Yep, searing pain is quite situational, but the "situation" is simply where you want high DPS where threat is not an important factor. PvP is obviously the best choice, but there are some other areas as well:

* Some bosses (Murmur is one, I believe) where the DPS can go all out from the beginning and it does not matter how much threat is generated

* Killing boss adds (and enemy 'objects')

Comentario de 31067

ok - here's the deal with searing pain and crits...

if you're a destro lock - then you'll quickly come to learn the importance of this spell! seriously! if your immolate has ticked out, you dont have enough mana for a Incinerate or a shadowbolt... - a crit from this spell can be a lifesaver AND a manasaver, if thats your thing

a possible destro build to use this in: (i'm using something similar)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/talent=AZdxczIbzZVx0trhtVuM

alternatly the three points could be put into Shadow And Flame (which is what i'm using)

It is important to remember that as a destro lock you should be running around with a sacrificed pet, so its only you there - no need to worry about the extra agro the spell or its crit does!

As a destro lock with 700+ fire spell dmg, then my SP spells do around 650 normal dmg, but i've seen crits as high as 1600 when i get my buffs on (armory search character Taioken, EU dunemaul server for stat reference)

Comentario de 16951

Back before when Sac Res tactics were able, <Having both Demonic Sacrifice buff and a VW pet> warlocks were able to outtank dps warriors in any 5 man with just average blues. Searing pain was used to keep aggro like sunder armor.

It's an interesting fact, may be unbelievable, but at the time it was very fun and very possible.

Comentario de 5883

Searing pain is useful for Warlock tanks on various boss encounters.

Comentario de 66921

Searing Pain is also very good when being Demo spec to finish off enemies, or even in groups when the enemy is low on health and a shadowbolt will not fit in.

Only back fire is if you have no idea what you're doing and mob gets a heal off or from somewhere else - such as an aggro'ed mob - and you casted Searing Pain one too many times.

Comentario de 76106

Anyone know how much +spell damage this gains?

Comentario de Kathucka

This is very useful for The Curator's Astral Flares in Karazhan, which need to die too quickly for damage-over-time spells to have their full effect.

Comentario de 39909

This spell is used for the Warlock to tank Leotheras in Demon Form.

Comentario de 83563

I don't see point of using this in PvP, because if you do, you pretty much are wasting the rest of your destruction tree, like Improved Shadow Bolt, Incinerate, Soul fire, etc

Comentario de Surface

I believe this spell is also very useful for The Lurker Below, as all ranged dps should be standing behind the others of the raid, and can't get aggro..

Comentario de 102386

This is the Lock's Sunder Armor. Useful for Leotheras the Blind's Demon Form and the Striders during the Vashj fight.
The high threat and crit rate make it a great way to burst up aggro early.

Comentario de 4466

Searing Pain generates double the threat it deals in damage. If you've taken Destructive Reach, the threat reduction is multiplicative for a total of 180% increased threat. Hopefully, if you're a warlock tank and using searing pain to hold aggro, you've opted NOT to take Destructive Reach.

Comentario de Novawolf

It goes without saying: This spell is used best in PvP or against mobs/bosses where there is no set threat table and DPS rules, in which case, this spell would rock.

It's like Scorch on steroids for warlocks.

Comentario de Grindalwald

I love this spell.

PvP its great to hit hit them with this after feared and dotted, when fleeing in fear they out run shadowbolt alot.

PvE it will save a dying demon.

I have General's Dreadweave Gloves which gives 50% chance to avoid interuption while casting, without searing pain i lose to BM huntards everytime.

EDIT: Post 70 this isnt as great as it used to be. 50 to 69 it owns, 70 it just doesn't do as much damage as other tactics will. I still use it after a shadowbolt when a target is about to leave range, but I don't spam it like i once did. With 800 bonus damage It hits for around 700 or so and crits for around 1,000. Maybe with improved searing pain's boost in crit chance it would make it more viable but i wouldn't I really suggst going destruction for PvP. I will always keep my gloves handy in bag for huntards though, and use outfitter mod to throw them on when i want to cast a searing pain. They dont hit quite as hard without my regular gloves and I take a 35 resilence reduction but its worth it to cast something instead of wanding or standing there.

Comentario de 146819

Best Direct Damage spell for a Warlock to use in PvP. Shadowbolt takes too long to cast for it to be very useful, plus it leaves a trail back to you (NOT a good thing >.<). With Searing Pain, you can do a good amount of damage, take up less time casting, and be safe(r) from the players who are smart enough to follow the spell trails back to you. Plus the high-threat component is cancelled in PvP.

In PvE, it's fun to pair up with a Mage for a game of deadly "Threat Tag" with a mob; just keep gettin your threat above each other and the mob will die running back and forth trying to decide who's head to kick in.

Comentario de 170273

My warlock is at her 20s atm but I like planning a bit forward, so giving it a little thought, I thought about going for spell haste for my future destro/fire specced lock who will be intended to spam Searing Pain.

The question is...would the haste rating from Quagmirran's Eye along with haste rating from other items stack?

As for the usefulness of this build, ask yourself : Why do healadins do the same with their Flash of Light? And by the way, the build is intended for PvP ONLY. I cannot imagine how much aggro one will be getting from this awesome little spell...

Comentario de awebz

It's unfortunate there isn't a searing pain rank closer to 38, as it would make a destruction-fire build such as this (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/talent=IZZVf0qMhuV) more viable for 39 warlock twinks

Comentario de 162742

There are also some bosses where Warlocks wearing large amounts of resist gear are supposed to tank their spells, and this is one easy way to get threat in such situations while providing great dps for the lock. It's basically a ranged spell dps heroic strike for locks.

Comentario de rocky69

its also used to tank illidan in demon form

Comentario de 220355

If you are a demonology warlock and use metamorphosis, you will seek for some extra threat, and Searing Pain can help you with that...other wise...well, it causes damage...

Comentario de BeaverDono

When you know you have a bad warlock in your raid group..

Raid Leader: "Hey warlock, you know this fight right?"
Warlock: "Of course I do..."
Warlock: "I just spam Searing Pain, right?"

Comentario de 106202

Yes, it's true that this spell is rarely used, but it can be used in a great burst damage combo in pvp.

While a target is immolated, you can cast Chaos Bolt and, with enough haste, cast a Searing Pain just before the Chaos Bolt actually lands on the target, immediately followed by Conflagrate. The idea is to have all 3 spells do damage at the same moment, allowing little to no time for the target to be healed or even realize what's going on.

Comentario de Blazeme

This spell, in PVE, is most useful when you have to tank a boss (for example P3 and 4 of Mimiron).
Considering that this spell causes high amount of threat, you shouldnt have problem with loosing agro on mob.
I spam this spell till I get decent amount of threat and then I just use my standard rotations.

Comentario de 211544

It hurts......

ohhh the pain.........oh the pain.....it hurts......

Comentario de 366424

as a 24 lvl lock , i preffer searing pain to shadow bolt due to the cast time and the mana cost , i spam this all the time ( even though i get some aggro but the mobs dont get to reach me ;p)

Comentario de 370864

This spell needs some utility side effect like talented Scorch to be actually useful. Hell they even share the same icon.

Comentario de 355924

At 35, as of this patch anyhow, my rotation uses searing pain heavily. not as heavily as prior to "Backlash" talents, but still quite heavily.

Rotation: Immolate at max range, Shadow Bolt, Searing Pain until they are dead, mixing in ShadBolts when Backlash is up.

Comentario de 148144

imho, searing pain (exept for the pve use), its also really good as a damage spell for any affliction pvp build,
its the only spell worth casting from our "fire school" of magic (damage wise) and it can prove usefull in many situations where you are left against any class that can 'counterspell' you. you can avoid your shadow magic been locked and at the same time deal a decent amount of damage.

Comentario de Xiamaru

I have never played as a warlock, and don't know much of the mechanics of this spell.

But after having tanked Violet Hold HC on my druid, and having seen a warlock with an insane amount of crit chance on this spell, making him deal almost 4k dps with only a bit less than 5k gearscore, I actually think this might be worth a look for destro locks. I had no problems, AT ALL, tanking him. High amounts of threat doesn't seem that high to me, having him at around 70-80 % threat at most during the solo fights (portal guardians or bosses)

Might also add that my gearscore were no more than 4k, being way below the warlocks equipment level. and I hardly believe the fact that me being a druid should make me better at keeping threat on single targets. Just a thought, although I don't know if it would be possible pulling better dps with the usual destro rotation

Comentario de whiplashmtb

I can see why this particular Warlock was Searing Pain spamming. Since we're all new to 4.0.1, some people are relying on sources like Elitist jerks for spec and rotation suggestions.

According to their 4.0 theorycraft (http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t48311-simulationcraft_warlocks_4_0_1_numbers/) a Spec that spams SP (in their testing a total of 134 of the 251 casts during the simulation and accounting for 32% of the Damage) came up 332 dps Higher than a non SP Rotation.

Which is great when you're slapping it on a Target Dummy. I need to do some in-game testing to see if the Additional threat they gave tanks in the last Beta build before the patch compensates for the additional threat. It very well may.

But use common sense, Aggro does not mean you're winning.. Omen is your friend.

Comentario de clavarnway

It's because Searing Pain at the time was doing more damage than it was supposed to - it was fixed shortly after.

Comentario de 658350

Great low cast time spell to eat interuppts with. Also it's good fore pulling aggro, wich is situational in pve.

Comentario de Thottbot

I never understood the use of this spell. I never bought it.

What is so good about it? First I thought it could become an instant cast (with talents), but it can't....

Comentario de Thottbot

i am not sure either

maybe it's to pull aggro off your pet, which would be useful if it's about to die

Comentario de Thottbot

this will draw aggro from anything in pve, so you'd best like it.. and it resembles the scorch of mages, meaning it has use in pvp too as a quick nuke between hops, or whenever you need a bit extra dps...

THX.

Comentario de Thottbot

The Searing Pain spell is great for PvP if you want a quick attack. But it's also good for pulling aggro off your pet.

Comentario de Thottbot

Aggro from both this and the Shaman's Earth Shock are figured as the damageX2. Meaning, you Crit with this spell for 1k, the threat generated is 2k. Gratz, you just wasted 4 sunders and a revenge of threat from the tank.

Do NOT use rank one to pull Serious aggro off of something; but off a fading priest rank 2 or 3 is better.

Comentario de Thottbot

I use this when my VW loses the aggro and cant get it back. It has a very short casting time. Its also god to kill a running mob, preventing him from pulling additional enemys.Nice in pvp, if you are about to die you just nuke the crap out of them with this.

Comentario de Thottbot

Also good if you have Devastation and maybe Ruin talents. If you need to land a critical quickly, use Searing Pain; since it has a shorter casting time, you get more chances to crit. Better than shadow bolt since you have a lower chance of critting before you enemy dies. Also great for pulling aggro in PvE ^_^

Comentario de Thottbot

I like this spell because it doesn't use up a lot of mana. Like the others said it does take aggro off of your pet. You train at level 18. Don't over look it like I did.

Comentario de Thottbot

this is prolly on of the best spell in pvp.
with talents and demonic sacrifice and curse of elements you can get around 35% more damage, 18% more crit chance, and 100% more damage with crit. with a good gear you can prolly hit almost 1000 each hit and have around 35% crit chance at lvl 70

Comentario de Thottbot

its gr8 for stealing killing blows in bg

Comentario de Thottbot

Curse of Agony, Corruption, Immolate, Searing Pain repeatedly. Stay out of LOS and it's possible to kill your opponent without them tracking you down.

This is why warlocks are such a hated class :)

Comentario de Thottbot

i love this spell and agree with all things u guys say .

GO warlocks!

Comentario de Thottbot

I usually save this spell as a finsihing blow in PvE or to draw a mob off of another caster (esp the healer) in an instance while doing more dps at the same time.

Comentario de Thottbot

not just that, think about it... with 3/3 imp searing pain, 5/5 in the pre-ruin talent, and 3/3 in backlash... you get +18% crit. Add this to around my usual 12% crit rate, and you have 30% crit rate with this baby... and i usually crit at least 3 times in a row a lot

Comentario de Thottbot

I've heard people talk about using this spell to pull a target off a healer in an emergency, but I've never been able to get it to work no matter how much I spam it. Shadowbolt works better but takes longer to cast. I guess it might have a better effect if I were destro.

Comentario de Thottbot

i casted searing pain on a bunny the other day...

just thought i'd share that...

Comentario de Thottbot

this is usful because you can get several crits out fast. last night i was grinding for firewing sigs and i decided to use this i got ten crits out in afew secs with + spell damage armor its super valuable

warriorquinn afflic lock

Comentario de Thottbot

This spell is somewhat useful as a finsher when you are targeting a second foe. I used it as a slower version of arcane shot that hunters have when i do instances.

Comentario de Allakhazam

With talents, this spell can have an insane crit chance. With other fire boosts from Warlock talents and elsewhere, combined with Ruin, this spell is a fast-cast, monster crit, fire-bomb.
Without spending the talent points, though, it is a little faster and that is all that it really has going for it.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Don't see the use of this spell, my shadow bolt does alot more damage (with 5 points in improved shadow bolt it's double of the damage of this spell).

So why should I ever use this spell?
Maybe that rare time that there is someone immune to shadow damage.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Don't see the use of this spell, my shadow bolt does alot more damage (with 5 points in improved shadow bolt it's double of the damage of this spell).

So why should I ever use this spell?

Shadow Bolt has double the damage, double the mana cost, and double the casting time.

So, the DPS of the two spells are almost the same. If you improve the crit chance of Searing Pain by spending points in the destruction tree, you can actually do more damage with Searing Pain than you can with shadowbolt. For PvP this is gold.
Also, in PvP, you get interupted casts a lot more than you ever would in PvE. Shorter casting time means you can get more spells off which means more guaranteed hits which means more damage.

Finally, as has been said, the Warlock is the least squishy of the cloth wearing classes. If you want to pull Aggro from the Priest or even Mage to save his ass in a Group situation, Spam searing pain.

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