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Comentario de 615161

Buenas , os tradusco basicamente lo que dicen en ingles , no se pueden aprender de un instructor , cae al hazar entre 8 otras recetas todas de cataclismo , y solo se pueden conseguir crafteando objetos de cataclismo ( lo mas commun es hacerlo con clavos de obsidium ) . Y para los que os hayais preguntado ; " he tengo un 70 y me gustaria usarlo en arenas" si, se puede ! espero que siga asi , y por desgracia solo puede tocar uno de los 8 por que estais limitados a 450 de ingenieria , los gnomos pueden tener 3 por k tienen 15 puntos mas por racial . y si no os ha tocado , solo os queda una opcion , borrar ingenieria y reempezar hasta que os toque , o sino subir de lvl =) . los demas commentarios solo dicen chorradas a proposito de la animacion u otras cosas similares e sin interes .

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Comentario de Seriau

The shocker...

Comentario de Krazycarn

The difference is the element.

Comentario de Rexworth

Hard to decide which is cooler, A wrist rocket or a tazer. Either way engineering ftw!

Comentario de Seriesh

Don't taze me, bro!

Comentario de gorden23

Rock-her with the shocker!

Comentario de 384598

I don't understand why it still only does around 1k damage with damage in cataclysm likely more than doubling. Not going to make much of a difference to burst.

Hopefully the belt shield is usable in arena.

Comentario de Seref

Nearly 3x the CD and about the same damage as Hand Mounted Pyro-rockets... I'm prolly just going to use the Spinal Injector.

Comentario de Luxor0

The other glove enchants all have 1 min cooldown why does this have to be so sub-par.
Really hope they buff this or give us something more interesting.

Comentario de Broshimitsu

Here's a list of the other available glove-tinks(?) coming in Cataclysm:

Comentario de 215205

scales with enhancement mastery (increased nature,fire,frost damage)

Comentario de 708268

So, does anybody know where can we learn this?

Comentario de thxyoutoo

This can be discovered randomly while crafting other engineering items. You can not learn this ability at a trainer.

Comentario de 720022

Learned this one while creating Electrified Ether. Still wonder if all those cata engeneering enchant items are discovered through any engeneering crafts or through some particular ones? (According to reports its mostly either and obsidium bolts)

Also my in-game (russian) tooltip says it deals 6000 damage.

Comentario de wye43

I just tested it and it doesn't trigger or require free global cooldown, so its possible to use it in button mashing macros.

Comentario de 717529

Anyone know what sort of backfires this has?

Comentario de Broshimitsu

This does not share cooldown with the goblin racial: Rocket Barrage

Comentario de krogulek

why you cant just learn it @ engin trainer? :< blizzard makes me so sad sometimes...
only tinker im missing and i cant get it (also made much of trash and nothing) cos some1 in blizzard has a brain full of stupid ideas. Srsly...

from gm: like synapse springs or Z50 mana gulper its rare tink and may take a singnificant amount of time to drop/discover..

Comentario de 689770

The Survival mastery affects this tinker.

Comentario de 744686

Sigh.. So basically i have engi at 504 atm, last couple of hours I've been farming Volatile Air to make Elecrified Ether to have a chance at proccing this tinker..
Ive gotten the Cardboard Assasin, Grounded Plasma Shield(wich havent failed for me yet<3) Invisibility Field, Quickflip Deflection Plates, Z50 Mana Gulper... But pure unlucky with the Tazik's..
Everything else have procced from a green-orange craftable, but I see alot of posts here saying you can proc on grey's :)
Volatile Air goes for 31g each on my server, so you can see why I'm not just buying my way to Tazik.. Still.. Should have been learnable from a trainer... Alchemy earns money while discovering, us engi's either loose time or loose money.. Oh well, atleast I can see the irony in it.. >.<

Comentario de nodoze

Curious if anyone at level 74 and below has been able to "discover" this? On my 70 character I enabled the Cata trial and only did cata recipies from 425 to 450 but didn't find any... I am stuck at max engineering a 450 and while I can keep making cata stuff at 450 and below I can't get any more skill ups in engineering so not sure if I will ever be able to get any of these...

Comentario de nodoze

Test Post/Question: Are WoWhead & Thottbot merged where posts on each site show up on the other?

Comentario de Daegranos

The pyro rocket was only useful for PvP (especially arena), and now that you can't use engineering tinkers in arena I'd say skip this one.

Comentario de Vexus

This can crit and deals 50% more damage with the crit: test case 4686 normal, 6951 crit.
It is Nature Damage and can be increased with debuffs on your target: test case 5393 normal with Rogue 8% debuff.

Comentario de UlarnekIronclaw

i was just wondering.. would this be better for a mage than say.. the Synapse Springs? for pvp of course, NOT pve

Comentario de 251203

I've got 5 of the 8 tinkers now, and still lacking this one shamefully.

If I do get it, I'm adding it to this Orc/Hunter macro for extra umpffh:

/use Trinket
/cast Blood Fury
/use Gloves

Any character should add this to their 2m cooldown damage increasers :)

Comentario de 755865

I just got this at 525, I had learned every other tinker and didn't want to craft anything because it seemed impossible. After doing heroics, I finally got the chaos orb roll I needed to win it. When I crafted the goggles I discovered this tinker. I posted SS but it might not be approved.

Comentario de 755877

I just learned the last tinker off electrified ether, a grey, at 525. i have spent maybe 15kg easy last few weeks. shocker was my 16th tinker. it had to been hotfixed.

Comentario de 573345

Learned it by making one electrified ether today, about time to fix it.

Comentario de 253366

Just to confirm, I learned this today while already being capped at 525 for a little while.
I was making the Authentic Jr. Engineer Goggles to exchange it for the spirit Cogwheel gem, and luckily got it!

Comentario de 26079

Effect: (45 yard range).

Comentario de CycloneDuke

Engineering Tinkers -- bug and subsequent fix

There were 8 engineering tinkers introduced in Cata. Unlike most recipies they are not trained but a random chance to discover while you make any cata engineering item. However there was an issue where if you only knew 7 of the 8 when you hit max skill, you could not learn the 8th tinker.

Last night Blizz hotfixed in a solution:
Engineering
* All eight of the Engineering discoveries are now able to be learned through crafting the Overpowered Chicken Splitter at max-level Engineering.

If you are max engineering and only know 7 of the tinkers, craft this and you should learn the final one. Be wary as it won't teach you anything else if you already know all 8.
If you happen to hit max engineering and don't even know 7 of the 8 (and thereby need more than 1 to learn), crafting this item at max skill teaches you only one of the tinkers, not all of them remaining.

The 8 tinkers are:
Cardboard Assassin
Grounded Plasma Shield
Invisibility Field
Quickflip Deflection Plates
Spinal Healing Injectorp
Synapse Springs
Tazik Shocker
Z50 Mana Gulper

This is confirmed to be working and seems to have a 100% chance to teach you a tinker.

Comentario de 670067

Does this tinker benefit from scaling of any stat? the tooltip on this page says 4320-5280 nature damage, whilst in-game my tooltip says 4449-5439. Any suggestions?

Comentario de 760619

Just learned this at 444 engineering.as a level 70.

Also, for other 70-74 twinks out there, our good buddy Jeego found out this useful information (465 requires gnome race):

440-450 you can get 1
451-460 = 2
460-465 = 3

/ feels all warm and tingly inside having learned this first try!

Comentario de 322008

"Major breakthrough!", or rather rather irrelevant, but interesting fact:
Seems to be doing full damage against last boss i Tol'Vir, Siamat, even in the start when he's buffed with damage taken reduced (Not sure how the buff works, but think it reduces damage taken by like 90%). Can confirm next time I do Tol'Vir, but I used the Tazik Shocker on my gloves a couple of seconds after the tank went in, and it had a 9k crit (probably wouldn't have noticed it if it didn't crit, but the crit popped up on my screen).

Comentario de 311352

Tested as a hunter today.

The electrified ball has similar or same visual effect as lightening bolt. Since it deals natual damage, it is classified as a spell. That means even if a melee class has reach or exceed 8% hit cap, it still have a chance to miss. Also all effects that increase your damage or your spell damage will grant benefit to this. Such as spell power or even SUV hunter's mastery. Without further test, I can only assume this spell's crits rating is also works with spell crit, and it only crits 50% more damage rather than full 100%.

In my hunter's rotation, the damage of shocker is at the bottom of all skills. However, it will not trigger GCD and not in that either. Therefore, in this patch it is still a good idea to boost your dps.

Another thing I should mention, when I use Unsolvable Riddle, or I use the shocker, it will trigger a 10sec CD on each other. However, when I use Elementium Dragonling, the 10sec CD will not be triggered. So it may have shared CD with some paticular trinket.

Comentario de 516041

learned while making goblin bbq (at green if it matters)

Comentario de valarua

Sweet stuff, for warriors i would recommend the following macro:

#showtooltip Heroic Throw
/cast Heroic Throw
/use 10

Comentario de Yoeki

Like previously mentioned above, is it possible to discover this at level 70 while being 450? I've seen alot of level 70 twinks running around with this, which is incredibly awesome. But I've spent 5000g on both Obsidium Bolts and Electrified Ether, and have not had a single discovery recipe discovered (except the intellect proc, which I gained at 326~ ish skill)

So my question is: Is it possible to discover anything while not being able to learn 450+ at level 70? It feels like you can only discover it while leveling..

Comentario de Sraenn

so im putting together some hellish macros and i just noticed the tazzik causes the bolt gun to go on cooldown for 10sec. if youre trying to macro together the goblin racial rocket, this, and the bolt gun reticule, its not gonna happen.

i suppose its reasonable to macro the goblin racial and this together, since both have a 2min cd. this is critting for 8-10k for me, depending on the usual. goblin mage, decent but not great gear, got a volcano card though.

Comentario de Verdice

45 yard range, 2 minute cooldown.

Comentario de justlikethatqt

i am a level 70 twink trying to get this, i've leveled eng 1-465 (gnome) 4 times now and still havent gotten it :(

Comentario de Sanryo

No one seems to have mentioned this, but is Tazik a company? Or maybe a person that first invented the shocker? It seems strange to have "Tazik shocker" when it could just be something general like "Electro Shocker"

Comentario de Seref

I'm wondering if this crits for +100% on a DK, since they have Runic Focus

Comentario de 749936

For those of you wondering, you can learn this tinker and any other Cataclysm tinker as early as 441-450 engineering skill. You need Cataclysm installed, but you do not have to be an Illustrious Grand Master. The chances of any one tinker being discovered are equal afaik. See the list below for exactly when the tinkers are discovered. If you extrapolate this out, you'll see when you'll learn them if you go on to Illustrious Grand Master.

Leveling as a non-gnome gives you one chance to discover a tinker (441-450 skill points)
Leveling as a gnome gives you another chance to discover a tinker (451-460 skill points)
Leveling as a gnome gives you yet another chance to discover a tinker (461-465 skill points)

Also: Any tinker can be "enchanted" onto an item and stay there even if you drop engineering. It will not work until you re-level , but the tinker will stay and even if you don't learn that specific one while leveling again, you will still be able to make use of it.

Last but not least: There is conflicting information about whether this item follows class spell mechanics such as Runic Focus for a DK, the Shatter talent on mages, and other talents/skills. AFAIK, the damage will be modified by any nature damage modifiers you may have, but I do not believe that it follows any class talents specifically. I could be wrong, but the limited testing I've done on my mage atleast shows that it doesnt follow Shatter's rules and shatter effects all spells you cast. Therefore, it's either not a spell (most likely) or is simply not affected by any modifiers.

Comentario de 912058

For level 70 twinks. At 450 engineering you may get 1 of 8 tinkers. It is random and if you do not receive the one you are after you must re level it from 1. If you are a gnome you may learn 3 of 8 of these tinkers. The ability if effected by resilience.

Comentario de Chocomember

Can you do it like a enchating just get an Engineer with Tazik Shocker and let is enchant it with it ?

Comentario de Raithek

I was hoping for some changes concerning the way to obtain this tinker,
since i want it on a twink of mine. But as of 4.3.3 this is still the deal:

For characters at or below 70 at 450 engineering you may only get 1 of 8 tinkers.
It is random and if you do not receive the one you are after you would need to re level engineering from 1.
If you are a gnome you may learn 3 of 8 of these tinkers. At 525 enginerring you can learn all 8.

Also, i was trying out the damage on my main and i got those numbers:
~10k Crits
~5k Hits

It sure is an awesome tinker for the lvl70 bracket where this damage comes in handy.
But as for me, i guess i'll need to spend another 20k in order to re-level my engineering...

Comentario de 922144

I got this at 456! I was lvl 70! super op, especially for rogue.

Comentario de Noxheart

How so you get it. Ive heard its like 1/8 chanse you just get it when you ht 425, and 1/4 if you're gnome. Is this true?

Enlaces

Atontador tazik

Atontador tazik
Hechizo de 5 seg

Herramientas:

Llave de tuerca arcoluz

Componentes:

Tierra volátil (2), Éter electrificado (2)

Añade de forma permanente un atontador tazik a tus guantes que le permite a un ingeniero cualificado infligir 4320 to 5280 p. de daño de Naturaleza a un enemigo a largo alcance. El atontador solo se puede utilizar una vez cada 2 min.

Solo se puede añadir a los guantes del ingeniero, y hacerlo provoca que se liguen.

Componentes

	Tierra volátil (2)
	Éter electrificado (2)
	Éter electrificado (1)
	Aire volátil (2)

Detalles de hechizos

Duración

n/d

Escuela

Física

Mecanica

n/d

Tipo de disipación

n/d

Categoría GCD

n/d

Costo

Ninguno

Rango

0 metros (Self)

Tiempo de lanzamiento

5 segundos

Reutilización

n/d

GCD

0 segundos

Efecto

Enchant Item: [Atontador tazik] (4181)
Valor: 1
Multiplicador JcJ: 1

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Atontador tazik

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