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Kommentar von 436173

So, this is basically Obliterate for Bears?

Kommentar von Deevan

The 9 second duration on the buff provided after "popping" the lacerates fits very nicely with the new cooldowns on bear abilities.

Basically with Maul being 3 seconds, Mangle 6, and Swipe 6, you get a nice little priority rotation going with Lacerates in between each cooldown.

1 Mob:
FFF->Mangle->Lacerate->Maul->Lacerate->Lacerate->Pulverize, then refresh when cooldowns come up. Prioritize FFF first for threat, Pulverize second for the crit buff, then Mangle, Maul, lacerates in the downtime. Plays now more like an Enhancement Shaman or Survival Hunter than button mash spam.

Multi Mob:
FFF->Swipe->Maul->(Tab)Lacerate x3->Pulverize->Mangle->Swipe. Prioritize swipe after first pulverize to maximize threat, Maul second (assuming glyphed), then a tabbed Mangle, FFF, and lacerates in the downtime.

Of course, using berserk on a pull or shortly after is just mangle spam. And don't forget the new passive Berserk

Certainly makes bear tanking a little less "faceroll" and more fun/interactive.

Kommentar von 436173

One thing bothers me: what is the icon attempting to show?

All the other feral abilities show claws, teeth, etc., which make sense. This one looks like a mallet or a girdle? Maybe a beer mug?

Kommentar von 357855

and increases your melee critical strike chance by 3% for each Lacerate application consumed for 10 sec.

consumed, does it remove your stacks of lacerate?

Kommentar von todiwan

Perhaps there will be a glyph that makes Pulverize not consume the Lacerate stacks? Or, if that is overpowered, consume a single stack?

There are other glyphs that do similar things. Like Glyph of Swiftmend.

Kommentar von Demonsummor

So is the dmg of this attack worth it to remove a 5 stack lacerate? Or will I only do it too keep up the buff?

Kommentar von 230590

unfortunately, the crit buff from this does go away when you shift out of bear, like if you were pvping and wanted to use 3/6/9% crit buff in cat form (vengeance also goes away when you shift into cat as well)

Kommentar von 666983

So is the dmg of this attack worth it to remove a 5 stack lacerate? Or will I only do it too keep up the buff?

It's 3 now, but yes, It is worth it now that lacerate is not only a necessary part of the rotation, but is also our "filler" move. Of course it has great importance, but this is perfect because it has no cool down while you are waiting for your main abilities to refresh. I would say it wasn't worth it (cause pulverize is actually not that high up on priority list: Read the theory-craft and check your recount before down-rating thx...) if you had to go out of our way to stack these like an old style sunder, but bears will find themselves mashing Lacerate quite a bit in this Xpac.

Kommentar von 733879

The primary use of Pulverize is, obviously, not to add DPS - because, you know, tanks generally have other things in mind - but to make Savage Defense proc more often. With 9% additional crit every attack and direct damage ability (including the initial damage of Swipe and Thrash) has a better chance of proccing SD than without the Pulverize buff.
You should try to never be without this buff. Oh and talented it lasts a whole 18 seconds.
(And of course you also get some more threat by using Pulverize but that's a very secondary role of this skill)

Kommentar von Zokudu

I was looking everywhere for this and maybe I'm stupid for not being able to find it but the spellID for the buff it places on you is: 80951

Kommentar von 921346

I notice there is an error pulling up this is page in Wowhead - Mists of Pandaria version. Is this ability being removed in MoP?

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Pulverisieren

Pulverisieren	Stufe 85

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15 Wut	Nahkampfreichweite

Spontanzauber

Verursacht 60% Waffenschaden plus weiteren Schaden in Höhe von (786 * 60 / 100) für jeden Stapel von 'Aufschlitzen' auf dem Ziel. Erhöht außerdem 10 Sek. lang für jeden Stapel von 'Aufschlitzen', der dadurch verbraucht wird, Eure Chance, im Nahkampf kritische Treffer zu erzielen, um 3%.

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15 Wut

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5 Meter (Kampf)

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1.5 sekunden

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Effekt #1

Weapon Damage - %
Wert: 60
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

Effekt #2

Unbekannte/r/s Effekt #0
Wert: 120
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

Effekt #3

Normalized Weapon Damage
Wert: 786
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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